Cuz am4 is ddr4 and am5 is ddr5 only . If ddr5 gets cheaper . No am4 cpus

@@Ifty1646v Wait for 2027

Exactly! AMD’s marketing is on top right now and how they’re utilizing both the AM4 and AM5 platforms is spectacular

​@@Ifty1646vBro 32GB of CL36 DDR5 cost less than 100$

Btw now those who built budget on am4 can now upgrade their cpu to not bottleneck the new GPU they buy which could be up to rx 7900 xtx

People probably said that about them making gpus

@@ChoofedDoggthey integrated gpus.. the dedicated gpus are dead and ass lol

​@@codahyder2888 arc GPUs are good tho

​@@codahyder2888ur goofy ass clearly isn't up to date lol

​@@codahyder2888yeah, but do you have any clue why Intel's IGPU chips don't lose as much performance compared to AMD? i5 12400 = i5 12400f Ryzen 5 5600G ≠ ryzen 5 5600 AMD uses a lot of their CPU itself for the APU. which is why they have PCIe 3.0, half the L3 cache (noticeable), and less performance if with a Discrete GPU Intel doesn't skimp out on the CPU, it skimps on the igpu, and a VERY small fraction of people buy modern intel CPU's for the igpu. Cut intel some slack even if their CPU's suck.

And fake marketing

@@sovietunion9131 nvdia fanboy?

​@@camaraman645 his username is soviet union what u expect from this bozo

@@camaraman645 stating facts makes me a fanboy 🤣 AMD lied and faked the benchmarks of their new am4 cpus while comparing them to intel cpus. The fanboys are the one who can't accept the fact

@@rushblyat4471 stating facts makes me a bozo . Tell me you're AMD fanboy without telling me you are AMD fanboy

They are for the people🫡

Indeed very scummy and attractive

What? Releasing a new platform that has no benefit over the predecessor at this point?

@@n64slayer accualy many people use am4 still And upgrading a cpu is much cheaper than getting a new motherboard and ram sticks to go with it

@RandomizedKZfaqr012 that's not my point, my point is why make a new platform if there is no benefit

the socket literally revived the company, even to AMD its special

Once upon a time, Intel was the undisputed king of CPUs by a WIDE margin. AMD took over the multicore market, and now they've caught up to them in the CPU side. Now, if AMD would work on their GPU-side for pricing they might start taking some market share from Nvidia.

Intel’s still in business mostly because of workspaces preferring to buy workstations with Intel CPUs in them

Intel has a great reputation, many prebuilds come with their CPUs, many workstations and servers use their products and the youtubers sponsor them, even after about 7 years of success and innovation in the CPUs market, AMD is still considered by many a "dirty budget option" or "the Mediatek of computers", which mostly derives from their past products, especially the FX lineup, or at least that's what I've heard from some people, mostly online. If I were to buy a future PC, I'll go with AMD since they have great value, great iGPU for laptops and I would prefer to avoid Intel considering the controversies in both politics and technology, but I'd prefer to keep the former out of this conversation.

Because now they don't fake their benchmarks unlike AMD.

​@@HurricaneSparkyi would get an amd gpu if their software and support was better they have already nailed the hardware and pricing

Yeah, I was wanting a 5900x3D, myself, because I already have a 5900x and I'm spoiled by 12c/24t lol. A 5950x3D built like AM5 would be perfect, imo... Half 3D cache and half "regular" cache. I mean, everyone loves how well 3D cache performs in games but I'm not too fond of losing a good chunk of performance everywhere else. I also find it weird how the 5800XT stays 8c/16t (like the 5800x) but the 5900XT goes to 16c/32t. Seems fake unless they have even more AM4 CPUs planned and somehow that is what they had to do to make their naming scheme work.

@@JustAGuy85 I came from the 3900XT to the 5800X3D as that was an upgrade and also a downgrade.

@@jamesm568 Nice. So, far better in everything gaming... but missing a few cores/threads in comparison. I really feel like that's got to be my next option, though (the 5800x3D). The newer games get, the more I see my CPU is having trouble pushing my GPU. I don't have Hogwarts, but that is one game that seems to benefit from DDR5, so I may not get the results everywhere that I imagine. I'm curious, are there any regrets you had going from Zen 2 12c/24t to Zen 3 x3D 8c/16t? Or does the IPC gains make up for it?

@@JustAGuy85 I mainly do flight simulators as the 5800X3D helped, but I think having more cores will also help in the long run. AM4 does hold back the 4090 slightly.

@@jamesm568 Cool! I won't keep on and on haha but do you happen to have DCS: World? Man... that one had me lose like 5500 hours in a couple of years. Still my favorite thing ever, but I quit playing for a few years and still have a fear to relearn everything.

True, same for laptops since AMD iGPUs are much better than Intel, I regret recommending a laptop with Intel to one of my relatives.

Guess what? AMD lied and faked their benchmarks to prove how good their new am4 cpus are

Oh shoot but there still making new cpus for am4

​@@sovietunion9131 Source ?

@@Elvyne search it up, even LTT covered it

Just dont use copilot. Its not like copilot's gonna break into your house and kill you lmfao.

​@@NadadianWho knows?

​@@Nadadianu really trust microsoft ?

@@Nadadian okay then please modify upcoming Windows 12 without any local AI stuff (Copilot) for me.

I don't like the localization of AI. It sucks

Could be worse, I listened to the influencers and did a 10100f build.

@@zeroturn7091oh noooo😭

Wasn’t that bad for the time tbh if this was 2021 not much other options

@@Criteon the best possible cpu i could get without changing my mobo is the 10900k but if i had gone amd… yeah

@@zeroturn7091 almost went for that thank god i didnt lmao

first of all 7000 prices will most likely raise to then drop in the future, so you would still be waiting most likely from 2 to 4 months to maybe save 50$, i wouldn't really call it worth it

Yeah wait for some mf to upgrade their 7600 and buy it used off eBay

Yeah for people focused on budget value I would wait for 9000 release so all the 7600-7800x3D that will hit the used market. Heck I’ve already been getting $220-260 7800x3D “new” in the local market. I expect 7600x to be had for $100-130 which is very similar to a 5800x3D.

@@45eno thats what the 5600 sells for I doubt the 7600 will drop that low but I’d be glad to be wrong

You have risen 💀

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You sound way too young to be on KZfaq.

They are server cpu's, which are really beefy

​@@_sshadowno, threadripper is a workstation processor. It's used by professionals who use multiple types of capture cards, move around a lot of data, edit videos, make scientific computation. Epyc is the server lineup.

just do a physical test with the seller

@@Dreamliner312 yeah but how do I test it? Thats what I was meaning with the “walk through the steps…” Sorry again for the grammar

@@alestrop try to run benchmarks in the games you want to play for video or photo editing install cinebench it maxes out the cpu at its full power when you run test on it games will mostly focus on the gpu if you want to max out the gpu try to run gpu heavy games

People usually don’t lie about their stuff if u pick up from their house cause you know where they live

Firstly, unless it's under 400$ the 7800xt is better in every single way, future technologies may not come to the 6800xt that do come to the 7800xt (AI based FSR) in addition AV1 is becoming more important and the 7800xt uses about 20-30% less power, even if they report about the same reporting was changed between generations and 6000 series reports about 20% low. The 7600 is a decent choice, but you can get a 7700 for like 20 bucks more. It's hard to recommend a 6 core cpu nowdays as more and more things support 8 cores, zen 4 prices will probably drop a good bit in about a month when zen 5 launches.

I have the 6800 and it works great, although I‘m bottlenecked by periperals and a i7 6700K (will switch to AM5 when I have the money). the 6800XT is better than that, and kinda similar in performance to the 7800XT, although the 7800XT has AI upscaling potential for when AI upscaled FSR releases. if that’s significantly more expensive for you, though, the 6800XT is great/better value. considering how the 7800XT has better price/performance than the 7900XTX and the 6800XT is almost the same, you will get between 70% and 80% of the XTX performance, except for the unlikely case that the 24GB VRAM of the XTX are used, which like only happens in 4k native ultra, possibly with raytracing, of the most demanding games team red, let’s go!

@@gonozal8_962 I've got a nitro+ 6950xt and a nitro+ 7900xtx. The 6950xt doesn't get 70-80% of the performance of the xtx. Basically every new game that comes out the xtx pulls further away.

You should buy the R7 5800X3D

@@Mini_Noob22 I would like to, but it's still really expensive

@@ambstudios4564 but you were saying that you wanted AMD to release a 5900X3D, which would probably be more expensive, unless you meant the 5800X3D

​@@ambstudios4564Then why tf you want a 5900x3d or did you mean 5600x3d cause that's a good idea. They should release x3d varients as gaming focused variants for ryzen 5 and ryzen 3 ( if they even plan to bring back ryzen 3)

The performance of the 5800X3D compared to the AM5 is not great, I would love to see a 5900X3D, meaby a 5850X3D or something similar that has just that extra power for a similar price so that I don't feel the need to change to AM5 just yet😭

6600xt

nothing honestly? other than the 6600xt or a used 2080 super theres not really many options

if you don’t want the best and don’t care about money or malicious politics and buisness tactics, in which case you‘d consider the 4090, AMD is always better

Should be a massive upgrade