As a Tool & Die Maker from the 80s we always had production workers in the shop. In those days it would take 4 years to get journeyman status and that involves a great deal of production and endless school time. Of course that was long ago, unknown today's process. 😊

As a tool maker I agree most guys are button pushers. But in my shop every guy is a setup/program guy.. and we program at machines too

Terminology is important and in the shop everyone knows who's who. The pecking order evolves. But for simplicity and story telling, best to keep it under as few umbrellas as possible.

It's like calling a nurses aid a doctor.

As someone that's been down that road. I somewhat disagree. You don't need the fancy platinum truck for sure, but... Buy once. Cry once. The good tools & warranty will get you much further in the long run with less headaches then cheap tools.

They're really worth having if you have to carry your pipe wrench very much . The aluminum body makes a huge weight difference

Cool

I programmed CNC mills for years to make complex mold cavities. Made several wrench handle molds and a pipe bender base. Once was at the Elyria Ohio plant. Technology changes in the last 50 years have been amazing.

"Educated" and wisdom are two very different things. Some of the dumbest people I know have doctorate degrees.

Nope. Nails resist sheer and bend but do not break. Cannot build homes with screws.

@@FearsomeWarrior I can second that. I screw my shed together, because I'm not strong enough to use a nail gun. About 2 to 5 percent of the screws break due to shear.

I dont think its typically the companies choice. It's the market and margins that dictate where their products get made. America wanted cheap cheap cheap. That's what happens.

You are quite wrong on that, the percentage of imports is tiny - just go to their main line catalogue on line to confirm.

Ehh the import stuff pushed out is crap - we build great stuff it’s the politicians and super greedy fat cats greasing the politicians for a “global economy “ I don’t want over seas crap - matco warranties my USA wrench with a Taiwan made wrench that’s crap - we need to be making stuff here - good manufacturing jobs keep cities and communities running / Rockford Il used to be screw capital of the USA - Elk Grove village Il machine shops everywhere all that’s gone no good paying jobs for Americans to raise a family on and build a life …. My buddies family owned machine shop in Addison Il produced some of the finest pipe plugs money can buy - American steel , American melt , produced on machines from the 40’s - granted they have some newer machines as well but they are turning a profit and expanding their line / he’s proud of he’s families product and proud they use American melt - American steel - time we said enough is enough and get American’s back to machining that great stuff we used to make here

No they already bailed on the Fort Worth plant sold off the machines fired the people sold of the tools at fire sale prices, most Craftsman hand tools are made in Taiwan before and after the Texas deal.

Haven’t used the stuff made here at home personally but heard lots of poor quality control issues.

Sold out a good operating company or the company went bankrupt and some one bought the name?

DON'T have to sell 600 per hour, BUT have to meet a quota of what their big box stores order to keep available

Also they ship all over the world and there are over 100 diffrent models that are produced.

Knipex.

people who use them every day wear tools out i must have bought 20 pairs of Channellock end nippers for work

What's your point son

@@miketipton5001 Mike is taking about US made tools. We would still have Rubbermaid if it wasn't for Walmart.

@@charliebrown5611 Rubbermaid made tools ?

@@miketipton5001 no. But it's part of overseas move of American manufacturing.

the problem was Rubbermaid made too many different products and it costs a fortune to make a mold for each so they could not sell enough to get a reasonable price.

These guys will be replaced by Biden's "New Comers"

Third world migrants make expensive hammers in the USA. If you think it's just Americans making tools here, you are sadly mistaken. We aren't reproducing like Chucky SCHUMER said, so they bring in millions of illegal migrants.

Cheap Chinese tools are,

China CAN make good tools if they want to. One place I worked had a Harbor Freight ( Hercules ) battery drill and 4 1/2 grinder. These were every bit as good as a Milwaukee.

@@bobroberts2371 Milwaukee has been china made for over 10 years

problem is China will send out the rejects they don't care about quality or make fake copies of others tools they care nothing about patents.

Puzzled at first. Then I returned to the title. Good one!

Puzzled at first. Then I returned and checked the title. Good one!

THOSE won't be trained, BUT, Biden's "New comers" will

I went through 20 pairs of Channellock end nippers over my career you want them to replace same tool 20 times for free? If it wears out from use or abuse it is not a defective tool just a worn out one you pay more to get that lifetime guarantee it did not work out for craftsman and they are already competing with Chinese garbage tools

Or 1 Fail to lean about how the world works / learn a salable skill 2 Be a willing victim blaming others for your lack of success.

these are wrenches and pliers not socket sets they don't have metric or English

Also Brazil and the company just got bought by a investment group.

I'm glad I invested in their old stuff.

Rubbish

Lisle sells a mix of lot of imported tools and a shrinking number of US made tools and I like Lisle tools but got to be fair. MAC and Proto both are Stanley companies and sell US hard line but some is now imported for sure eve S-O sells imported tools