How Big is a One Inch Sensor

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Maarten Heilbron

Maarten Heilbron

8 жыл бұрын

How Big is a One Inch Sensor? Maarten demonstrates sensor sizes from Full Frame to One Inch with a little history and levity.
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@deathdoor
@deathdoor 8 жыл бұрын
Maarten, you're the best. You should be on TV.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Panino Manino Thanks. John Oliver got the job, I think it's his accent.
@BBayjay
@BBayjay 8 жыл бұрын
I'm always impressed with the quality of your content. Keep it coming!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+B “B” B Thanks very much for taking the time to comment, that's a comment that is much appreciated.
@RickMentore
@RickMentore 8 жыл бұрын
The scholarly Maartan, now with studio audience! Love your presentations and the tie.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Rick Mentore That's very kind of you to say - I borrowed everything from John Oliver except the tie. It's a Michelle Sartori tie, from Tom's Place in Toronto.
@TaskerTech
@TaskerTech 8 жыл бұрын
I loved the irony about the one inch sensor. LOL great humor!!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Alexandre Schrammel Thanks for the kind words. I'm always glad to hear that someone gets my sense of humour.
@ishmaelhutson5328
@ishmaelhutson5328 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all that context and the clarity, along with interesting facts!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 5 жыл бұрын
Always my pleasure, thanks for the kind words.
@jibester1
@jibester1 5 жыл бұрын
Very, very informative. Thank you.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 5 жыл бұрын
That's the kind of comment I love to read, thanks!
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 8 жыл бұрын
Excellent 46 seconds and I subscribed.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you. According to my youtube retention stats by 46 seconds I've lost about 25% of viewers - so I'm impressed by your appreciation of my work.
@tomirwin4260
@tomirwin4260 8 жыл бұрын
Quite informative. Thanks!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Tom Irwin I appreciate the kind words, thanks.
@jeffrydemeyer5433
@jeffrydemeyer5433 8 жыл бұрын
This video has a history bites feel to it, loved it. Would be nice if you did a historic camera company series in this fashion
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+jeffry de meyer Thank you for the kind words, and the excellent suggestion. I wonder who I could find in Toronto for interviews for a series like that ...
@bradsatz
@bradsatz 8 жыл бұрын
Finally an easy explanation of the 1 inch vs the full frame size differences.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Brad Satz Thanks for the kind words - always happy to fill the information void. I appreciate that you took the time to comment.
@zainalu
@zainalu 6 жыл бұрын
You are so amazing! Loved the way you presented!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
That's so kind, what a pleasure to read your comments, thanks, appreciated.
@zainalu
@zainalu 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Edoneil_director_photographer
@Edoneil_director_photographer 8 жыл бұрын
Great video. I was trying to wait one week to watch but last night was not one week later. :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Edward O'Neil Photography Inc. Thanks for the kind words - you are, of course, welcome to watch again next week.
@avro206
@avro206 7 жыл бұрын
great video. Very informative. Interesting how the 35mm term stlil hangs around
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your kind words. I'm a little more impressed by the term one inch. The term 35mm still has some relevance. The one inch (as in one inch cathode ray pickup tubes in studio video cameras) lost its relevance back in the 1960's
@hughan00
@hughan00 8 жыл бұрын
Maarten, the production value in your content is phenomenal. Chapeaux! If you don't mind me asking, how long did this video take you to put together? Research: n hours? Script preparation: n hours? Editing: n hours? The end result, in any case, is top notch. Thank you, from Ireland.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Hugh A N Wow, thanks! I think that's the first time someone's used either the word phenomenal or chapeau in a comment, so kudos to you. All the details are in my behind the scenes blog post heilbron.com/how-big-is-a-one-inch-sensor/. Research about 90 minutes, Script prep and rehearsal with prompter another 90 minutes, Editing about two hours. There's more to it than that (I am a one maarten operation) as you'll read on the post. Hello, Ireland - I owe you a visit.
@henryssurfshowcase
@henryssurfshowcase 5 жыл бұрын
Great graphics and description, I got everything but the very last few seconds how that adds up to 1 inch? Looks more like APS-C size to me??
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 5 жыл бұрын
A one inch sensor is much smaller than APS-C.
@BobLee333
@BobLee333 6 жыл бұрын
Hi again Maarten, can you please explain if a 10 mp camera like canon 40d would be enought to shoot my sons sport events? it has 6.5 fps , 1/8000 shutter speed , but only 100-1600 (expands to 3200) ISO, what do you think? For the record i will not make posters out of the pictures, maybe small photos but mainly will be shared on fb. Thanks a lot for your time and guidance.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
Well, most photographers consider 12Mp to be the reasonable minimum - but for posting on social media or viewing on a screen (after all 4K TVs are only 8Mp) it's fine. I own and still use a 50D - I think it's a great camera.
@ObelixCMM
@ObelixCMM 8 жыл бұрын
That's why always refer to them as "one inch type" sensor, love the humor :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+ObelixCMM hehe. It's a "type" alright. Thanks for the kind words, much appreciated.
@ObelixCMM
@ObelixCMM 8 жыл бұрын
+Maarten Heilbron Missed the opportunity to make fun of 4/3 size. If I submitted 4/3 as answer to math problem it would be graded as incomplete answer ;)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+ObelixCMM You have to love the marketing teams that come up with these terms ... in this case Kodak aided by Olympus. Yes, I should have gone after this deeper, but in my mind the script was already running long. The four thirds may refer to the same one inch circle that defines the one inch sensor; or it may refer to the different aspect ratio - as most 4/3 sensors have a native 4:3 aspect.
@Viperx66
@Viperx66 8 жыл бұрын
Nice video, thanks for the info :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Viperx66 It's my pleasure, thanks for commenting.
@Viperx66
@Viperx66 8 жыл бұрын
***** i have a question for you now that i think about it. I got myself a used d800 very cheap and in excellent condition. I am very satisfied but i found a d810 for around 700- 800 usd + my d800. is it worth it ? In my eyes its not but want do you think ?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Viperx66 That's not a deal I would make unless there was some absolutely compelling feature about the D810 that I couldn't live without.
@Viperx66
@Viperx66 8 жыл бұрын
***** ok thanks alot think im sticking with my d800
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Viperx66 I think that's the right choice. Put the money towards a lens.
@mikecar52
@mikecar52 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 5 жыл бұрын
Always my pleasure, thanks for the kind words.
@kbruff2010
@kbruff2010 6 жыл бұрын
Brilliant.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
Always nice to know you've enjoyed my content.
@richarddemaray9775
@richarddemaray9775 8 жыл бұрын
MartinJust the talking face review I gave you so much credit for avoiding ... mostly, unlike so many other narcisist talking face camera reviewers. You also didn't have any music which you have been wrongly criticized by some others. But actually nice job, even with the corny laugh in tape. It must be the fun you had that pulled it off.. nice! Good info for all but you might have had a so what after the what. But then it seems your good work and imagination and call to service have miles to go. Good show.red
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Richard Remarry Thanks, I think. It's not a review, and this seemed like to best way to answer this question, and as you suggest, it was fun to try and fun to do. Still learning, love to try new/different things. Always open to suggestions if you have topics or ideas. As always, thanks for viewing and commenting.
@10191927
@10191927 8 жыл бұрын
Wow! Very informative, nice suit btw. And yes, I remember growing up with Kodak cameras and taking the film canisters to my local Walgreens to get them developed. I'll be honest, I don't miss disposable cameras or film. I even remember my dad had an old VHS camcorder from back in the 80's, it was a shoulder mounted behemoth. And that was supposed to be "portable". Makes me think of just how far we've come in 30 years.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Marth Thanks, for me and the suit. Yup, good memories, but no, I don't miss them much either. My kids however, seem to love shooting with film. Go figure. In the 70s I worked at TVOntario - we had a two inch Ampex video tape recorder that you wore on your back that could record five minutes on small tape reels. But I honestly don't remember how big the cameras were for that rig.
@10191927
@10191927 8 жыл бұрын
+Maarten Heilbron Film, especially developing film is a fascinating process, that always intrigued me. But it never occurred to me how many chemicals were involved in developing film. Plus if you didn't know how to do the process, you were screwed. So while it's become something of a lost art in this digital age, I can certainly respect it since it was the standard for so long.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Marth I'm certain that future generations will look back on some of the analog technologies of our time - whether it's the landline phone, the phonograph, television, the film camera, open reel tape ... and really marvel at the ingenuity. How the analog television system was able to create and manipulate so much data in real time (now that we understand the complexity of digital origination, processing and delivery systems) was truly magic. How, in the absence of a monitor or a camera Philo Farnsworth was able to conceive and build both is the work of a true inventive genius. I don't want to diminish the work of Edison, but creating a film camera and projector looks like simple child's play in comparison with Farnsworth's. My first TV job at Master Control at TVOntario in Toronto required me to load and align two inch video tapes onto machines that required a compressor to operate. Those monsters had to be seen to be believed.
@10191927
@10191927 8 жыл бұрын
+Marth If we go back further in history, it was Arab scholars who centuries ago first developed the concept of the photograph and what we would know as the camera today, they pretty much outlined the mechanics of it, but lacked the technological means to make it. That to me is even more astonishing than the camera actually being invented, that such a concept could exist hundreds of years ago and take hundreds of years to become reality. Just like how DaVinci was designing air crafts and the concept of flight long before the Wright bros made flight a reality.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Marth The whole concept of the camera obscura is also fascinating. Thanks for the insight, sounds like Leonardo daVinci and flight.
@frankartale1026
@frankartale1026 4 жыл бұрын
U r the man
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, appreciate the kind words. Sorry for the laugh track.
@AlanJMash
@AlanJMash 8 жыл бұрын
On Canon's website regarding the XC10's sensor size, it says it is 16mm on the diagonal and on B&H says the sensor is 13.2mm x 8.8mm. Which is the exact same size as Sony's one inch sensor. Hope this helps! Keep up the good work.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+AJM Videography Thanks! Searched and didn't find it.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, the 1 inch video tube housed many different sensor sizes, the one we call the 1 inch is approximately the largest available. The light sensitive area by necessity required a metal bounding area, and the bounding area(think of is as a type of frame) varied in thickness from manufacturer depending on the tooling making the product. There were other size glass vacuum tubes but the 1 inch was the default standard so all video tubes were names according to the 1 inch nomenclature. Thus a four thirds sensor fit a much larger tube, but the “thirds” part of the name refers to a third of an inch. A two thirds sensor however, was housed in a 1 inch vacuum tube even though it is a lot smaller than the 1 inch sensor. The actual size of any 1 inch sensor is a lot smaller than 1 inch because while it fits inside a 1 inch tube, its light sensitive area is determined by a formula called the “optical formula”. Thus various size cameras would use a 1 inch tube but would have a different effective focal length lenses, so the required size of the sensor is determined by a ratio between the lens and the tube, and the actual required light sensitive area would be determined by this formula. This resulted in the confusing naming convention we still use. The popular 1/2.3 size is actually two fractions where the second fraction is rendered as a decimal point by an old mathematical convention to render it this way. The first digit is referring to the tube size and the final fraction refers to the light sensitive area. It is the same for the other sizes such as 1/1.7 for example, but of course there ended up exceptions. Since 1 inch was the standard 4/3 omitted the 1 as engineers understood that the 1 should be there and there ended up several other sizes where the 1 is omitted such as 1/10, 1/8 etc where the size should really be 1 /1.10 and 1 /1.8 but it is shortened to make it simpler. Unfortunately as digital sensors were introduced there was a transition period when both vacuum tubes and digital would both be used in the same studio and to save costs the old lenses from vacuum tube cameras would be used on the digital cameras so there was a need to make the digital chips the same size as the old vacuum video tubes and so we are stuck with an obsolete naming system. Most of the newly developed sensor sizes are named just by their dimensions in mm but customers prefer the predictable results of the existing older sizes and so there is little incentive to change to sensors simply described in mm. As you can tell, my Aspergers causes me to collect all sorts of technical data. Recently I collated a list of all sensor sizes with all film sizes that are commonly used or most commonly found in antique collections.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks for the detailed notes, appreciated.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 4 жыл бұрын
Maarten Heilbron I figured you would be one of the rare people who would appreciate these kind of nerdy details :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
@@artistjoh 100% correct, I'm all about the nerdy details. Andy Kufluk (my tech teacher at Ryerson Radio and TV arts) would be proud.
@prasenjeetanand
@prasenjeetanand 4 жыл бұрын
After this month, i am going to buy may first camera other than mobile camera. frimyou channel i have gathered so much information. thanks sir
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
Always nice to know that viewers find my videos useful. Thanks for commenting.
@prasenjeetanand
@prasenjeetanand 4 жыл бұрын
@@MaartenHeilbron welcome
@rickb6029
@rickb6029 6 жыл бұрын
Vistavision was a movie format that unlike normal 35mm movies, had each frame is shot with the horizontal line along the length of the film. So, each frame in the Vistavision movie is 24mm tall and 36mm wide. Movie theaters needed a different projector to show these.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
What an interesting note - thanks for this wonderful bit of trivia.
@davidgifford8112
@davidgifford8112 6 жыл бұрын
The perforations on 35mm film are for cine film. There were several film types (828 E10) that used same size film in still cameras that are able to liberate 30% more usable emulsion for images. Perforations clearly not required to move film in camera.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
I appreciate the extra detail, thanks for adding this information.
@AgnostosGnostos
@AgnostosGnostos 8 жыл бұрын
What is more important and more clear is the area of the sensor than its dimensions. For example: Medium format hasselblad 2159 mm² 100% Medium format Pentax 645D 1452 mm² 67% Full frame 856 mm² 39% APS-C 368 mm² 17% Four thirds 225 mm² 10% One inch sensor Nikon 1 Sony RX100 116 mm² 5% iPhone 6 17 mm² 1% The surface of an one inch sensor is the 5% of hasselblad medium format camera which is very popular among real professional photographers. Also the surface of one inch sensor is the 13% of a full format camera. Bigger sensor gather more light and more light permits lower ISO. So in summer midday sunshine lighting even an one inch sensor can deliver equal good photos like a medium format sensor. Bigger sensor permit flexibility in every lighting condition which is highly important to a professional.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Achilleas Labou Thanks for doing the math on the measurements - those are also interesting ways to look at the difference. A bigger sensor can gather more light only if the number of pixels is the same. Packing more tiny pixels would reduce the advantage. The pixels on a 24 megapixel APS-C sensor receive about the same amount of light as the pixels on a 36 megapixel full frame sensor. This is one aspect of the excellent low light performance of the 12 megapixel Sony A7S.
@basujayanta1
@basujayanta1 8 жыл бұрын
NICE VIDEO!!! But the real question is what is the "Performance Penalty" of using a "One Inch Sensor" as compared to a full frame one?? I think that is something everyone is interested to know!! Thanks for the video though!!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+jayanta base Thanks for the kind words. I'm not sure that the penalty is in performance - I find the differences with smaller sensors to be mostly greater depth of field (so harder to get an out of focus background) and with smaller pixels, somewhat less low light than a larger sensor would have. I started my review of the Sony RX100 (the original) expecting very little, but was more than surprised. I now have several images taken with one inch sensor cameras printed on my walls at 60x90cm. They are as clear and detailed as images taken with larger sensors.
@basujayanta1
@basujayanta1 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the quick reply!! When it comes to DOF, there is argument on both sides as sometimes greater DOF can work to your advantage, especially in landscape and macro work. And as someone has rightly pointed out that you can always reduce DOF in post but you can't increase it!!! The real issue of course for me is the low light performance!! Do you have any estimate as to how many stops of benefit a FF camera has over their 1inch counterparts in low light?? Thanks in advance!!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+jayanta base I don't have the tools to get those answers - dpreview and dxomark do, check with them. It would depend on the sensor's pixel count and density, so probably not predictable across all similarly sized sensors.
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 6 жыл бұрын
The one inch sensor has around the same size as a super 16 sensor with a crop of 2.7 if that helps anyone. And I thought that Oskar Barnack form Leica was first to use 35mm motion picture film horizontally in a stills camera.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
"Around" being the operative word. Super 16 is a film format, not a sensor size I'm aware of, with an aspect of 1.66. And it was pretty obscure even in its day. For stills, although Barnack popularized 35mm in the 1920's, it was first used in the Tourist Multiple in 1913. Only when Kodak (who manufactured the film) put it in canisters (and developed cameras that used canisters) did it achieve its full potential for stills. Thanks for the interesting note.
@adamhlj
@adamhlj 8 жыл бұрын
Couldn't the one inch part comes from the fact that the hypotenuse of the right triangle formed with the 13x18 square is 22.2 mm, or almost one inch? Kind of the same with how TVs are measured? Edit: Nevermind, I looked at the micro 4/3 dimensions. The one inch only comes to 14.42 mm.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+Adam McGrath Right ... the real explanation, as I suggest, relates to the size of the imaging area in a one inch video sensor as used in studio video cameras (think 1950s). That's also the explanation for micro 4/3rds - the size of the imaging area in a 4/3 inch video sensor.
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 4 жыл бұрын
135 film was called 135 because the very first roll film sold in the late 19th century needed a name and George Eastman named it “type 100”, apparently for no other reason that the number 100 sounded large and vaguely scientific, and in Eastman’s mind it sounded “strong”. Eastman had a mystical approach to names. He named his company Kodak because he thought that the letter “K” is particularly “strong” and the word has two of them, and the letter “d”, while not as “strong” as “K” was still stronger than most other letters. No, it has never made any sense to anyone other than Eastman, but he owned the company, and so he got to choose the names. So the first roll film was number 100 and fit the first roll film camera. Over the next few decades he introduced various roll film cameras, and as the camera size changed he would produce a new roll film size and initially each new film just gained the following number consecutively: 101, 102, 103 etc., which had at least some obvious logic and 120 film was the 20th film size introduced. Later, however some cameras required the same width and length film as 120 but needed a thinner spindle for the film to wind onto, so for an unknown reason he called that one 620, and then when they decided to change the way the film is loaded onto the spool providing double film length, Kodak called that 220. Thus a family of roll film sizes developed all based on the original idea of calling the first one 100. By the 1920’s roll film was the biggest seller amongst film types and Kodak catalogues listed their films according to the three digit 100 system. So when they started making 35mm roll film it was simplest to add it to their catalogs as three digit type 135 instead of the two digit 35. Because Kodak was the largest manufacturer of film in the world there were a lot of customers going to shops asking for 135 film so over time all other manufacturers started calling their own 35mm film as 135 size. And it all started because George Eastman thought that the number 100 is “strong”.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this interesting detail, appreciated. Now can you explain the numbering system Nikon uses for the DLSR cameras? Or the rationale behind Sony's A6xxx series?
@artistjoh
@artistjoh 4 жыл бұрын
Maarten Heilbron Nope, because while I might be nerdy, I am not insane enough to try to find logic within Nikon’s special breed of irrationality, and Sony is simply inscrutable :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
@@artistjoh It's always interesting to know that there are challenges even the most adept will not undertake. Understood.
@okaro6595
@okaro6595 2 жыл бұрын
It was not Eastman who decided on 24 mm x 36 mm, it was Oskar Barnack at Leitz. The film was originally a movie film and developed by Edison.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for adding this detail.
@jesuisravi
@jesuisravi 6 жыл бұрын
this is the first camera channel video that actually uses a laff track--please....no more.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
Wow! Thanks, I didn't know that, I'm pleased to hear and thank you for your recognition.
@jesuisravi
@jesuisravi 6 жыл бұрын
no offense meant, man, it was not a bad video, but the canned laughter....why?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
No offence taken. I thought it was in keeping with doing a Stephen Colbert parody video. I regretted it nearly immediately, but as you say, not a bad video.
@howardkahn717
@howardkahn717 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS THE CROP FACTOR BETWEEN THE 1 INCH SENSOR AND THE FULL FRAME SENSOR ....SONY IS 1.5 CROP FACTOR, CANON IS 1.6 CROP, 4 3RD'S IS 2X.....WHAT IS THE 1' CROP FACTOR????....THANKS
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 5 жыл бұрын
It is about 3. And please have your keyboard looked at - the caps lock seems to be stuck. As a result Google flagged this comment as spam - just a warning.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 7 жыл бұрын
I think the image size for movies is 18 by 24 mm, giving the old standard 3 by 4 ratio. But possibly "super 35" is only 16 mm - I wouldn't know.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 7 жыл бұрын
A standard 35mm film has an imaging area of approximately 18x24mm. For motion pictures, a portion of this area is by the sound track - leaving an imaging area of 16x22mm. In super 35mm the entire width (24mm) is used with no allowance for audio. There are multiple aspect ratios possible in the motion picture specification. Super 35 is a production format, not a distribution format.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the reply. What a great source of information you are.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 7 жыл бұрын
always my pleasure, thanks for your kind words
@DrSamsHealth
@DrSamsHealth 6 жыл бұрын
3:4 for 24 mm width should result in 32 mm, no? Loved the video BTW :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
As I said, it's not exact - who knows what the practicalities of producing sensor to specific sizes might be.
@DrSamsHealth
@DrSamsHealth 6 жыл бұрын
Maarten Heilbron that’s true! Thank you for such a quick response! Can I ask you another question? I’ve seen you video on AX100 - I’m not sure whether to get myself an AX53 or AX100 (mostly tripod use, but this BOSS feature is also very appealing). Any advice?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
I would always turn stabilization off on a tripod, so that shouldn't be a factor. If you are shooting handheld, Sony's camcorder stabilization (with or without an acronym) is excellent.
@DrSamsHealth
@DrSamsHealth 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you - it was very reassuring, I was afraid of getting something that would not be optimal and I would be stuck with it for 2-3 years. I see that you filmed in Toronto (the same AX100 video), I live in the area too, so if you're around I'd love to offer you a drink or something (I ride too). Let me know if you're up to it :)
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
Always happy to help. Happy to meet your for coffee, but it will be middle of September before I have time ... please send a note to my email address in the description. And if you include your physical address in the email, I'll send a postcard from our travels.
@Red_Fox8
@Red_Fox8 8 жыл бұрын
So 1" is not actually 1"!? I thought that the diameter of the sensor is 1" =25 cm but by these numbers 8*12, the diameter should be around 14 mm, But why they call it 1 "!?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+RedFox +RedFox No, there is no dimension in which the camera's sensor measures one inch. So asking why is an excellent question. I'm given to understand that it's based on the diameter of a video tube used in studio cameras back in the 1950s and 60s. The largest 4x3 raster that could be accommodated within a nominal one inch tube is approximately the size of the one inch sensor. Incidentally, that's also the origin of the 4/3rds sensor's name - that's the largest raster that fits in a 4/3 inch video tube. And why inch instead of mm (as is typically used in photography?) that's likely the result of the first tubes being made in the USA.
@Red_Fox8
@Red_Fox8 8 жыл бұрын
+Maarten Heilbron Thanks for the clarification, I am not sure why they use a 50 years old technical term to describe today's technology.. Maybe marketing or because they knew that the professionals got the fundamentals well. Thanks and very nice channel, hope to see more educational videos like this one and it would be great if you can review Panasonic zs100.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+RedFox Marketing nomenclature always escapes me. I'm considering the ZS100, but have a long todo list at the moment.
@jackslater8688
@jackslater8688 6 жыл бұрын
Love the laugh track!
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 6 жыл бұрын
I did at the time, not sure I'd do it again. It was meant to be an homage/parody of a Stephen Colbert bit.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 2 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, the sensor in a Sony RX100 mk II is 8.8 mm x 13.2 mm. This means that the diagonal - which is how screen sizes are usually measured - is slightly shy of 16 mm, a far cry from the 25.4 mm which constitute an imperial inch. And even if you add the hight and width together, it isn't quite an inch, but only 22 mm. But isn't that always the way? We never get quite what we pay for. Some of the bytes, pixels, millimetres etc. are only nominal, which means: They only exist in the name. Which again is to say: they're not really all there. Am I the only one to think there should be a law against that?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 2 жыл бұрын
You were clearly paying attention in math geometry class! Apparently (this was a little too arcane for the video) if you place a 4x3 imaging area inside a round "one inch" cathode ray imaging tube (ie those used in studio video cameras) this is the area that results. Hope that helps. Anyway, as with many things "nominal" which in this case doesn't even mean approximate.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaartenHeilbron Yeah, I heard about that tube very recently, and of course it's always good to have the historical perspective. But I think most people would certainly expect the 1 inch to somehow represent the actual dimensions of the sensor they're buying. So to me it really is a lie. And I think they should be forced by law to stop using that ancient term and only put it in the detailed specs. And instead they should be compelled to list the actual size in millimetres. Some of them do, but you have to read the fine print to find it, and that, I think, is unfair. By the way, yes I did pay attention in math geometry class (I loved it!). I never really got beyond trigonometry, so calculus is still mostly alien to me. But I've occasionally found good use for sine, cosine etc.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 2 жыл бұрын
@@skakdosmer While I agree, it is accepted practice and caveat emptor.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaartenHeilbron Practice? Yes. Accepted? I wonder by whom. "Caveat emptor" I had to look up, as the phrase isn't used in my country. Generally buyers are better protected here than in the US - I don't know about Canada. But I doubt it that even here you could win a lawsuit for misinformation. But I wonder what the Forbrugerombudsmand (there's a Danish word for you: the Consumer Ombudsman) would say if the matter was brought to her attention. She might make some ruling on the marketing. (Yes, the Consumer Ombudsman is currently a woman).
@gravitymediapro
@gravitymediapro 4 жыл бұрын
Laugh track?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
No. Studio audience. Failed experiment.
@gravitymediapro
@gravitymediapro 4 жыл бұрын
The reason I ask is I have a live show coming up, directly to the web. There’s a comedy component, and I feel I need a small audience to breath some life into it. Thoughts?
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
@@gravitymediapro If you have a real audience, by all means, go ahead. Unless you are, or know, a pro laugh track engineer, I would avoid adding it.
@ConsumerDV
@ConsumerDV 8 жыл бұрын
Excuse me, Maarten, but you haven't explained anything. How the horizontal and vertical orientation of 35-mm film is related to 1-inch sensor? How the 1-inch vidicon is related to either film or modern digital sensor? I thought that sizing in inches referred to diagonal measurement, you did not even mentioned that. The only meaningful 20 seconds of this video are 4:30 to 4:50, but then you stop short before explaining the relationships of the vidicon to modern digital sensors. Wikipedia has it: "Sensor sizes are expressed in inches notation because at the time of the popularization of digital image sensors they were used to replace video camera tubes. The common 1" circular video camera tubes had a rectangular photo sensitive area about 16mm diagonal, so a digital sensor with a 16 mm diagonal size was a 1" video tube equivalent. The name of a 1" digital sensor should more accurately be read as "one inch video camera tube equivalent" sensor." -- A-ha! So no need to bother with 35-mm format at all. Instead, it would be better to mention 16-mm movie format as it is very close to "1-inch" digital format. The production level of this video does not reach your usual high standard as well: the canned laughter is so 1970-ies, and the humor is too low-brow.
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 8 жыл бұрын
+ConsumerDV thanks for taking the time to post such a detailed comment, and please accept my apologies for failing to meet your standards. First, I set out to answer the question, "how big is the one inch sensor", and the 35mm frame, used as a reference for all crop factors, seemed to be the right starting point. Second, I thank you for adding the video tube note that I only alluded to in the video - the "why", although interesting, did not seem particularly relevant, so ended on the cutting room floor. I was attempting a little John Oliver homage and may have gone a little far, I'll try to keep my humour in check.
@daisigner
@daisigner 4 жыл бұрын
The fake laughs are so off-putting. just me i guess
@MaartenHeilbron
@MaartenHeilbron 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, understood. Sorry. Won't do it again.
@sivabala5232
@sivabala5232 8 жыл бұрын
please stop the canned laughter, please!
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