Billions upon billions of troop. The number of like 5 Millions is ridcilously low! You can't tell me that less people fought a galaxy-wide war then there were soldiers in WW1 or WW2 on our little planet. That's just stupid.

Those numbers seem awfully small for a galaxy-spanning army. The German army fielded a total of about 13 million soldiers during WWII, and that's only for one single planet.

I'll go with the 691 million number.

I don't see how 8 million clones could fight the war across the Galaxy

There is no way that 1.2 million clones would be enough to fight a galactic war. Even the US Military is bigger than that at 1.4 million.

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The 600 million thing is probably the right one.

200,000 is nothing in starwars they should recanonize that number.

Whenever star wars states the number of something, I usually multiply that number by 10, 100, or even 1000 depending on the situation to make it more realistic for a galaxy sized empire.

obi wan had an army big enough to conquer 3 star systems

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I think there should have been 9,000,000,000,000

realistically probably at the least a few billion you know just sayin

Considering Coruscant alone has more than 1 trillion inhabitants an army of 200,000 clone troopers, or even a billion troopers, is utterly pathetic.

I always supported the 1 unit = 1 battalion idea because its not possible for just 8 million clones and 10.000 jedi to fight hundreds of millions if not billions of battle droids all across an entire galaxy. It doesnt matter how well equipped/trained those clones and jedi are they would eventually be overwhelmed by the sheer numbers of droids.

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Hundreds of trillions (perhaps even quadrillions) pf soldiers would be necessary to fight a galactic war. Just look at the Battle of Berlin in WW2, where the Soviets had more than 2 million soldiers. As such, invading Geonosis with just 200,000 clones is laughable, you can't just invade a planet with hundreds of thousands, you would need billions. It looks like the writers didn't have much of a notion of scale. And yes, I know the clones didn't have to fight every single living being on every planet, but let's face it: both the Republic and the CIS were galactic powers, each controlling several planets. As such, if say, the CIS deploys too few droids (some 500,000) to defend a planet, the Republic would just mass conscript their populace and create an unimaginably large army, using numerical superiority to win. This way, if trillions of soldiers can be recruited for a war (or built, in the case of droids), they will be, ecouraging the existance of huge armies. You wouldn't just field small armed forces when you can afford a large one.

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also, considering 5 percent of humanity is 350 Million, we could realisticly mobilize most of that clone army ourselves. for a galaxy of hundreds of trillions of people likely 1 unit of clones should mean like an army core of somewhere around 100k individual clones 120 billion clones is probably what a galactic army consists of

I always counted a unit to be about platoon size in my head when they said that, which would give you an army of 248,000,000. Which feels pretty good considering they were constantly outnumbered by droids.

Cool! You should do videos on other armies as well. (empire, first order ect)

Legends makes more sense. You're both working miracles making daily videos!!

the US ARMY can throw like 3 times that number together in like a year of draft legends may as well be canon

Lets remember that that number does not contain: -militias -Police forces -Droids, even republic had them, but numbers are unknown. In Clone Wars we only saw Police-droids for Republic -Any automated defenses -local military forces -non-clone Republic soldiers. Admiral Yularen and Tarkin were were just few examples of non-clones in military -Bodyguards, senate guards and any other paramilitary forces -Something else? And lets not forget that Star Wars universe is filled with gigantic urban ares. Urban terrain is relatively easy to defend even with smaller numbers and badly trained troops. And that does not include any automated defenses. Chokepoints further reduce number of troops needed. And you can´t just go to hyperspace anywhere you want, you need to use one of already existing routes that need to be made by manually flying trough that route. otherwise you might fly trough a star - and that is not healthy. So hyperspace lanes create another chokepoint that can be heavily mined and defended with smaller numbers and automated defense systems and local militias and police forces and paramilitary forces and non-clone soldiers and droids and local militaries. Most planets also had lot of resistance when they were occuppied, which meant that you had to deploy large numbers of droids for garrison duties. Considering Republic did not have proper army before clones, there must have been some kind of defenses. Otherwise people like Hutts could just walk in and take over entire Republic. They are not enough to fight war by themselves, but certainly they must have been numerous anyway. You would need millions of Police troopers for Coruscant alone.

Yeah, the whole 'unit is equivalent to one battalion' thing makes a lot more sense. By the way, where's the image from 1:29 from?

Billions of clones. I mean in our planet there is millions of soldiers. So for securising ab entire galaxy that's gonna need billions of fighters + crew, pilots, technicians.....

I always felt that the Units for the Clones referred to a Squad at the very least. So those 1,200,000 units took to mean 10,800,000 individual clones were ready to go...

The fucking Soviet Union has more men than 1/4 of an entire Galaxy

Yeah, these numbers seem strange and not very well thought through. Especially considering that the Sep Droids outnumbered Rep Clones 100 to 1. The Separatist droid armies were also said to be in the quadrillions.

Considering the war was galactic, wouldn't the number of clones and droids realistically reach the numbers of (let's say) the Imperial guard? I mean we are talking about thousands of systems and millions (maybe billions) of planets. If the war was only fought by a couple billion then there would hardly be any fighting on the scale of the clone wars, not to mention that most systems would be very exposed due to lack of numbers.

I would expect there to be billions because of how many systems were in the war and how big the galaxy was

How big was the Droid Army?

Holy crap who saw the latest rebels episode. Clone wars fans will really love it.

Now with battle droid numbers, will you be counting just the basic droid models; B1 battle droids, B2 super battle droids, droidekas, magnaguards? Or would you include the vulture droid, tri-fighters, droid gunships, hellfire tank droids, crab drioids, spider walkers, etc? As they all possessed a rudimentary droid brain, that would mean they could interact with other droids or people. I guess I'll wait till tomorrow then to find out.

When it comes to Legends, I personally would go with the numbers mentioned in “Inside the worlds of Star Wars: Attack of the clones”, a book which puts the number at millions of clone divisions (Corps) undergoing evaluation at the start of the war. I like to think they are being made at a few different points on the planet, with the main one being tipoca city, giving Kamino the room to foster a large army like that. Meanwhile, with the ships they have available, they gather enough troops to fight on Geonosis, and deploy the rest when the war begins. Seeing as how Kamino is the only planet that can make clones until Spaarti technology (which, if I’m correct, deploys clones eight months after the battle of Muunilist, which took place at the last month of 22BBY), they would need to be making billions of clones. They could do that if the planet is one big manufacturing plant for clones, allowing them to farm them for the war, and yet still be outnumbered by the droid forces, albeit with a fighting chance. Now it’s an actual war that can be spread across thousands of Star systems. The only thing I am struggling with is how to organize the army. The System armies need to be stacked with more troops than just 200,000. I like to think that System armies were mainly armies for High Jedi generals like Kenobi and Mace Windu, each of whom commanded one. Meanwhile, there would be bigger armies for whole sectors. A good example of this is the “Fifteenth Army” or Republic 15th Sector army, which was in charge of operations in the Sarin Oversector, also known as Sector 15. I hope this helps.

A unit equaling more than one clone makes sense.

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1.2 million troops felt laughable in a galaxy with over 10,000 inhabitants planets. Realistically, it would make more sense with the clone army having a fleet in the hundred thousands of venator class star destroyers and several 100 billion clones.

I'd say there were billions of them, so it'd make sense that there were hundreds of millions from the very start: a galaxy is not just one solar system, so there ought to be hundreds of billions to realistically fight across an entire galaxy.

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The Star Wats Galaxy is huge. I would say at least 3 billion Clone Troopers would be a realistic size to find a galaxy wide war.

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6 million , 8 million , 3 million......billions ....no exact number actually

Analyzing the numbers like clone combat units that we have in the Canon and Legends , using the 1.200.000 units mentioned we get the higher numbers . Squads of 9 clones become 10.800.000 soldiers . Platoons of 36 clones become 43.200.000 soldiers .Battalions of 144 clones become 172.800.000 soldiers. Regiment of 2.304 clones become 2.764.800.000 soldiers . Legions/Brigades of 9.216 clones become 11.059.200.000 soldiers. Corps/Divisions of 36.864 clones become 44.236.800.000 soldiers . Sector Army of 147.456 clones become 176.947.200.000 soldiers .Systems Army of 294.912 clones become 353.894.400.000 soldiers.

Wouldn't it make more sense that they meant there were 1,2 million units at the start of the war and 3 million units a month later and that the clones from the senate bill was 5 million units, which would make 8 million units, totaling the number of clones to 4,608,000,000.

How many Jedis and/or Siths did it exist intil Ep 6?

I loved the video, but thinking about it, million of clones does seem like the actual number. Kamino could only produce so many clones and equipment, considering the clone wars lasted for only 3 years, I doubt the kaminoans had time to produce billions of troops. Even with the spaarti clones, the number still wouldn't reach billions and in the end the GAR didn't need billions of troops. According to wikipedia, legends, the republic had nearly 1.3 million planets during the clone wars. Taking a look at the clone wars TV series, most planets were rural and didn't have a huge population, reducing the need for massive occupation forces and given the fact the most of these underdeveloped worlds weren't strategically important for the CIS, the republic military could cut the number of occupation forces to thousands of planets. Still, thousands requires a huge force, but law and order would be conducted by local planetary security forces, not clone forces. Clones were probably only used to counter separatist attacks and launch new offensives. Now taking into account the CIS army size, while having quintillions of troops is nice, an army is only as efficient as its logistics. According to Mace Windu, the separatist navy was 4 times larger than the republics in terms of warships. While the backbone of the CIS navy was frigates and smaller destroyers, the republic navy had many larger and more powerful warships like the venator class star destroyers. I'm guessing that one venator could take on up to 3 munificent class frigates, allowing the separatists to deploy only one ship load of troops because most of their ground forces would have been destroyed up in space. So in the end, the CIS could have outnumbered the clones 1 quadrillion to 1, but actual combat forces that could be deployed were more like 100 to 1, odds that clones with jedi support could deal with. For theses reasons I think that the clone army could have actually only been a few million troops, while the imperial army would have had to have trillions of troops, considering the imperial military occupied and expanded at the same time, while the republic military was more surgical .

the clone army had to have at least a few billion troopers to fight across the galaxy

One unit is equal to 576 clones so they originally had 115,200,000 clones with 576,000,000 on the way. Then the bill that got proposed to the senate was just 5,000,000 more clones.

Can you compare the 40k universe, to the Star Wars universe?

Pffft! on earth the U.S. military alone had mobilize 20 million men during WW2

I'm actually surprised at how small the clone army was after watching this video. Given that they were fighting a seemingly innumerable army of droids across the Galaxy, I thought there would be more of them. Hell, considering that there are 7 billion people on earth, a real-life army could probably outnumber them

There are 32 clones in a birth UNIT. Obi-wan was told that "200,000 UNITS ready and a million more on the way". That means in canon the can be 6,400,000 individual clones ready to deploy, with 32 million more in development. Then there was the Senate bill for the acquisition of 5 million more clones(or was it units)? So there could have been either 43,400,000 or 198,400,000 according to canon.

Mathematically, you would have a lot of factors to consider. Firstly, how many habitable planets there are in that galaxy. Then, how many of those planets were sophisticated enough to pose a threat, military wise. Then, we would have to factor how many members of those planets are fit for military service and how powerful their military forces are. Now, I understand numbers aren't everything when it comes to winning a military battle. But, even if you occupy that planet, you need to leave a military force large enough to maintain order and to keep their military force from growing again. Earth is a relatively small planet. But, there are 7 billion people here. If there are millions of planets with billions of people on those planets, the amount of soldiers needed to conquer, occupy, and maintain superiority on those planets would be astronomical (no pun intended.)

Realistically? From a Military point of view? Well we would need the populace of the known galaxy as a numerical reference, but out of the blue, I would say: To efficiently fight such a war on a galactic scale, on so many fronts, we would need at least 200-300 Million soldiers (considering the level of technology the Star Wars universe at the time of the Separatist Wars is on), which would heavily rely on vehicles and advanced weapon systems. Considering, that the Republic uses their clones not as "soldiers" but as "better droids" (meaning: they are expendable and their lives are not worth anything to the Galactic Senate) would put the number of needed soldiers 4 times as high - realistically speaking of about a Billion Clone Troopers, if not many more.

There had to be tens of billions of clones made in a galaxy spanning across the galaxy, with the Jedi and clones combined, and the fact clones can kill like 10 droids and Jedi can kill hundreds if not thousands, their enemy must have been much larger so I'd say hundreds of billions of droids

considering the fact that there were supposedly quintillions of battle droids then realistically if that number is correct there would have to be quadrillions of clone troopers to even stand a chance against those numbers.

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Fact Free I have a question. Are droids like r2-d2 considered A.I'S?

In the animated series, some of the space battles have a HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE number of ships, which would make the much larger numbers make more sense. Seriously, there's more ships in a single battle of the animated series than all of the movies combined. Several times more.

Can you even imagine how much provision such army needs? It would take a constant shipments of supplies to all major front lines.

The Sparti clones, how were they trained and such, and implemented into the GAR if they were created in secret? Also Largest clone army the galaxy had seen, so have there been other clone armies?

It would make more sense for the numbers to be in the trillions, if not quadrillions. As the droid army were said to have over a quintillion droids.

I always found it weird that they Senate debated on producing only a million more clones. It was a pretty small number for an entire galaxy.

The Clone Army was at 3,000,000 around the middle of the war and approximately 6 million at the end of the war, because the 5 million clones ordered would still be in production. The billions of Sparti Clones just ran at their enemy, and were barely deployed in battle.

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"Three million against... how many? Hundreds of millions. They were bad odds, but they weren’t impossible, not with the Nulls and a few thousand commandos around." This a quote from a republic commando at the height of the clone wars.

Clone troopers weren't the only fighting force of the Republic. Most of Republic planets probably had their own military or militia.

I think the most realistic number we can go with is 50 billion and if we go by what count dooku said in the Clone Wars about the droids outnumbering clones by 100 and that would put the droids at 5 trillion which would make sense

How about 7...seems like a reasonable amount

so many clones but also many deaths to all my brothers

I think the unit= a battalion number makes sense for the 2003 Clone Wars, because those battles were massive, but the canon numbers do make more sense for the 2008 series, because the battles appeared to be smaller scale, which could be justified by spread out manpower.

It seems to make more sense that one unit = 576 troops because the droid army outnumber the republic army 100:1 and they supposedly had 10 billion droids throughout the galaxy

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I think the number of clones that need to fight a war in a galaxy is 900 billion battalions

Birth Units consisted of 32 clones zo Lamasu was most likely referring to birth units, which would bring the number of clones to including the ones after the emergency bill was drafted to 194,400,000 which still does seem on the low side for a GALACTIC Army

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Did you know that the clones have the same DNA as Jango Fett.

To realistically fight a war across a galaxy you would need closer to one trillion clones.

I would have thought that when Lama Su said "200,000 units" that he meant 200,000 of the giant circular discs that held the clone's growth tanks. And each one of those I would assume held anywhere from 15 to 20 tanks. So, to me, the number of clones after the additional 1 million units were added would have been anywhere from 18 to 24 million, which is obviously a lot more than if a unit just meant one individual clone, but not quite as much as the 690+ million, which in my opinion is just a little insane.

Were stormtroopers also clones?

Is the sparty clones part canon?

In a military sense the word "unit" almost never means an individual, and considering multiple battles were taking place at any given time throughout the Clone Wars, in addition to the Clones stationed in other parts of the galaxy, the ~600 million number sounds more realistic if not more.

Grand Army-10 systems armies, a total of 3,000,000 units, with Supreme ChancellorPalpatine as Commander-in-Chief.[19] The number 3,000,000 was Sifo-Dyas' initial order, as the number of total clones increased during the war.[4] Systems Army-2 Sector Armies (294,912 units) led by a High Jedi General.[19][4] Sector Army-4 corps (147,456 units) led by a Senior Jedi General.[19][4] Corps/Division-4 legions (36,864 units) led by a marshal commander and a Jedi General.[19][4] Legion/Brigade-4 regiments (9,216 units) led by a senior commander and a Jedi General.[19][4] Regiment-4 battalions (2,304 units) led by a regimental commander and a Jedi Commander.[4] Battalion-4 companies (576 units) led by a battalion commander and major.[4] Company-4 platoons (144 units) led by a captain.[19][4] Platoon-4 squads (36 units) led by a lieutenant, second lieutenant, and sergeant-major.[4] Squad-9 units led by a sergeant and corporal.[4] Using the canon total of units but using the systems army as a unit makes much more sense putting the total number of clones at 1,828,454,400,000 this would easily last up until they began to supplement their ranks with non-clones after the fall of the republic and jedi orders.

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For people saying there are too few Clones, realize that they were probably used for offensive purposes first and foremost. As the Clone Wars cartoon showcased, the Separatists and Republic mostly used native militias for defense.

To realistically fight a war over the galaxies, I'd say you'd need over 200 -300 million clones. During WW2 the Soviet Red Army had 34 million soldiers, just to fight a war on one planet and one front.

If a "unit" were to be referring to one of the battalions of 576 troopers (seen on Coruscant), then 200,00 of these would render 115,200,000 clones and the 1,000,000 others spoken of as 576,000,000. This grand total of 691,200,000 would be far more suitable for the core of a galactic army.

Did some math I got 691,200,000 This is far more realistic intial number for a army meant to fight across the galaxy

600 mill? in the halo universe the covenant had billions so the same would probably be said for starwars

I think more then a few billion is more realistic? Clones aren't just soldiers there are medics, engineers, pilots, clean up crew, police/peace keeper and etc. As well we see clones men starships. A hundred thousand or hundred million is a huge joke for a galaxy of one hundred and quadrillion beings. Battling and having skirmish on different planets as well. Replacements aren't easy and Clones can die like normal living beings. Some Clones will survive battles but doesn't mean they will last long. Let's not forget their enemies the Separatist were equal on technology as the Republic. And at most the Separatist would have more troops either source from cannon or legends then the Republic.

There are exactly 120 clones... and they all disliked the video!

What we really need is a theory about how many discovered/important planets were there in the clone wars to see which estimate is most accurate

The Clone Army was far larger than 1,200,000 men. According to the "Corps" wookiepedia page, 8 Corps were deployed to the first battle of Geonosis. 1 Corps is equal to 36,864 clones, which would bring the grand total to 294,912 Clones (who fought/were deployed). If 200,000 "units" were ready for deployment in 22 BBY, then a unit can not be an individual clone. So, a unit could be anything from 576 to 9 Clones (A battalion and a squad respectively). In which case the Clone Army would be anywhere from 27,000,000 to 1,728,000,000 Clones. I'm interested to know the total death toll of The Clone Wars.