How Black Queer Culture Shaped History | Channing Gerard Joseph | TED

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Жыл бұрын

Names like Bayard Rustin, Frances Thompson and William Dorsey Swann have been largely erased from US history, but they and other Black queer leaders played central roles in monumental movements like emancipation, civil rights and LGBTQ+ pride, among others. In this tribute to forgotten icons, queer culture historian and TED Fellow Channing Gerard Joseph shares their little-known stories, connecting the origins of drag in the 1880s to the present day and exploring the awesome power to choose how we define ourselves.
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@enzomthethwa5861
@enzomthethwa5861 4 ай бұрын
Over already??? He was just getting started! I want more! More history of black queer Americans!
@KatKiddEnt
@KatKiddEnt 2 ай бұрын
It’s probably everywhere, not just here in the U.S., but, our country has had the nasty habit of erasing and hiding what it doesn’t want to be made known. If we doubt whether or not that’s true, we only have to think about how people didn’t seem to start searching for the complete truth about black history (unless I’m mistaken) until Alex Haley wrote the book Roots, which of course, led to the television miniseries. That’s when people really started to dig to learn the truth about our ancestors. I took an African American history class back in the 90s, and even then, we didn’t have a proper textbook. The class had to be taught from regular nonfiction books. We have to learn to embrace the truth of history in all its forms and stop getting angry with people when they make discoveries that they want others to know. Hopefully, we can do that.
@nerfornada-
@nerfornada- 3 ай бұрын
Amazing speech! this is so interesting about preserving these stories
@CH-rp1zl
@CH-rp1zl Жыл бұрын
Preach! I love hearing this history.
@danab172
@danab172 Жыл бұрын
❤️
@SoLuVaBle299
@SoLuVaBle299 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the people commenting negatively on this Ted Talk clicked on the video because they wanted to hear what the speaker had to say or because they believed they already knew the answer. “You cannot fill a cup which is already full” for real.
@ShaneBro
@ShaneBro Жыл бұрын
So many stories of so many peoples around the world have been erased. What could we find out about our entire world. This one story is eye opening.
@megangallaher4011
@megangallaher4011 Жыл бұрын
This is AWESOME!
@thursdaylanejribgo81diego87
@thursdaylanejribgo81diego87 4 ай бұрын
You looked very beautiful ❤
@laurenwhetsel8712
@laurenwhetsel8712 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t know that about the origin of the drag queen! Super cool. Thank you ☺️ ❤
@Darkanent
@Darkanent Жыл бұрын
Unreal...
@lilliangraham9850
@lilliangraham9850 Жыл бұрын
dance of the 41 ,I felt like it should be mentioned
@slickandslaycious6579
@slickandslaycious6579 7 ай бұрын
💜💜💜
@iordannl
@iordannl Жыл бұрын
Awesome talk! I learned a lot about drag culture, and we often don't get to hear much about William Dorsey Swann, even within modern gay culture. It's important to remember where we come from. To the individuals who want to silence gay people, drag queens, and others of different identities, you are the oppressors in history. You claim that we should be silenced because "everyone is equal" and then you throw us behind bars for being who we are. Never forget that if you don't have to worry about being exactly who you are, it's because you are privileged enough to not have to hide.
@user-je6xu9em8f
@user-je6xu9em8f 7 ай бұрын
Are you sure any of that is truth? No you take it at face value. It is communism and mass psychosis. Feeding you propaganda to join.
@JaniahOnfroy
@JaniahOnfroy Жыл бұрын
This is about as woke as you can get
@user-je6xu9em8f
@user-je6xu9em8f 7 ай бұрын
Yeah CIA ran pay op trash
@bettyboohadapoo
@bettyboohadapoo Жыл бұрын
Well presented and stylishly delivered. To all black drag queens, use this truth of history as your strength, then go slay! Thanks heaps Channing.
@user-je6xu9em8f
@user-je6xu9em8f 7 ай бұрын
Yeah just make things up and take over something you never helped build. 😅
@benfisher1376
@benfisher1376 2 күн бұрын
"Queer" is an identity tgat is only about 10 or 15 years old max. Its an invention of academics and students
@kaminathekoach9087
@kaminathekoach9087 Жыл бұрын
I'm shocked we didn't discuss Paulie Murray honestly. They were so pivotal in the Civil Rights movement.
@Mykzll
@Mykzll Жыл бұрын
ate
@angelachicken4141
@angelachicken4141 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou for sharing this information.
@cristianDominguez314
@cristianDominguez314 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t realize there were so many black queer historical figures.
@slimeruthlessroyals1026
@slimeruthlessroyals1026 Жыл бұрын
What, 3?
@att6484
@att6484 10 ай бұрын
@@slimeruthlessroyals1026 thats still 3 more than we are taught about
@Thac1403
@Thac1403 Жыл бұрын
Awesome talk! I learned a lot. Hope to see more people sharing stories about the queer community.
@whiteknob7944
@whiteknob7944 5 ай бұрын
Boy, all those GAY scientists that made all those discoveries right? Thank god.
@jboss4899
@jboss4899 Жыл бұрын
The ppl in the comments are upset because real history is being told.
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 Жыл бұрын
I also don't want 'the REAL history of sodomy', 'the "REAL" history of paedophaela', 'the REAL history of scatology' nor 'the REAL history of necrophilia'.
@WolfeWrangle
@WolfeWrangle 5 ай бұрын
​@@twsartadventures3660good thing none of those things are included then! You'll only find the history of lovers who were seen as unorthodox at the time.
@Brigadorski
@Brigadorski 4 ай бұрын
Lgbt agenda
@jack.p
@jack.p Жыл бұрын
Why can’t we just respect people for the content of their character rather than for what they look like or what their sexuality is
@westonnemitz1093
@westonnemitz1093 Жыл бұрын
Thank you
@meat3958
@meat3958 Жыл бұрын
@@OldUncleDan That suggests that not everyone already has unique characteristics; Which they very clearly do, the problem is that we treat some of the positive unique traits we see in society as negative ones, and the inverse- negative traits as positive. Edit because I messed up the last part and it didn’t make sense rip
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@OldUncleDan People can consider themselves special without having to hate on others that are different
@RickLambert963
@RickLambert963 Жыл бұрын
Confused individuals having an identity crisis, are lost in pronouns because they don't understand the difference between identity and character/personality. My identity is 5 foot 11 inches tall, 190 lbs, brown hair brown eyes, caucasian, and born male in 1963. That's of public concern. What I do with that identity including how I dress, the car I drive, how I act, how I speak, my sexual preferences... my character/personality, aren't of public concern; to each their own. This is what we're supposed to teach our children. This LGBT nonsensical philosophy doesn't even like to acknowledge that B stands for bisexual; meaning that there are only two genders, male and female, and hermaphrodites are both. It's ridiculously absurd to say that there are more than two genders. Being a transvestite isn't a gender.
@RickLambert963
@RickLambert963 Жыл бұрын
@@meat3958 Confused individuals having an identity crisis, are lost in pronouns because they don't understand the difference between identity and character/personality. My identity is 5 foot 11 inches tall, 190 lbs, brown hair brown eyes, caucasian, and born male in 1963. That's of public concern. What I do with that identity including how I dress, the car I drive, how I act, how I speak, my sexual preferences... my character/personality, aren't of public concern; to each their own. This is what we're supposed to teach our children. This LGBT nonsensical philosophy doesn't even like to acknowledge that B stands for bisexual; meaning that there are only two genders, male and female, and hermaphrodites are both. It's ridiculously absurd to say that there are more than two genders. Being a transvestite isn't a gender.
@andycordy5190
@andycordy5190 Жыл бұрын
Just to hear these histories is near miraculous in the context of the suppression of Black History more broadly. I am delighted to witness this champion of research and applaud the effort that has been made in bringing these cultural tributaries into the mainstream of history. One thing troubled me though, that a great man like James Baldwin was not sited among the names in this all too brief exploration of Black, Queer History. I am so ignorant of the state of contemporary Black history presentation that I really need to see a broader perspective. Queer culture has always focussed on the visible, the show, the attention seeking behaviour. What of life for those who did not dress in camp outfits but tried to challenge the oppression with their intellect, their art. Is their effort not of value in the broader, all erasing sweep of history which leaves only the most doggedly persistent, the most flagrant and uncomfortable for historians to find and faithfully represent?
@grandmoroccoautovi8246
@grandmoroccoautovi8246 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@Anonymous_Service_Leaks
@Anonymous_Service_Leaks Жыл бұрын
Mans forgot to sound gay
@Melissa-ub8pi
@Melissa-ub8pi Жыл бұрын
Phenomenal ❤
@user-je6xu9em8f
@user-je6xu9em8f 7 ай бұрын
Terrible
@stacylitwin1466
@stacylitwin1466 Жыл бұрын
Love this, such an important part of history that people have tried to erase. Wonderful talk
@neooooo6127
@neooooo6127 Жыл бұрын
"history". Its a delusion only started in the last few decades by people being overly influenced by social media and celebrities. Notice how the rest of the world's population laughs at us for this and their rates of people like this are dramatically lower than the US's. Its not a lifestyle, its a delusion.
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 Жыл бұрын
Yes, we do not need 'the history of sodomy'. Nobody normal is interested.
@funnytv-1631
@funnytv-1631 Жыл бұрын
Remember you have been criticizing your self for too long and it hasn't worked.Try approving of yourself and see what happens
@user-yf9cx4yg5w
@user-yf9cx4yg5w Жыл бұрын
This guy people will make earth is empty of people
@jamesdignanmusic2765
@jamesdignanmusic2765 Жыл бұрын
Fascinating - so much history has been swept under the carpet. The few well-known queer Black icons are just the tip of a grand iceberg of legacy - a legacy which extends across cultures worldwide. For example, as a straight white musician on the other side of the world in New Zealand, I am forever grateful for rock music, at least partly the legacy of pioneering musician Little Richard. How many equally important names are unknown to the many?
@michaelpuckett6612
@michaelpuckett6612 6 ай бұрын
Go woke go broke 😅
@superfanboy1224
@superfanboy1224 Ай бұрын
What is woke?
@cedricvillani8502
@cedricvillani8502 Жыл бұрын
So let’s see if this falls into place and how many “others” crop up today. 1: Has to be a significant impact across most domains 2: plays to his strengths 3: Of course inversely showing that he is vulnerable, and just as human as everyone else for not taking this seriously enough. 3: this is the third social-anthropologic -psychological confirmation, of a very interesting social prediction algorithm. 😂 hey guys, gals, everyone in between, great talk🎉, don’t mind me.
@HIMMBelljuvo
@HIMMBelljuvo Жыл бұрын
Black queer people were instrumental in black liberation, but not black queer culture per se. That's a mostly, if not wholly, an American invention. There have been elements of black culture that can be traced back to Africa, that could be considered queer according to modern sensibilities. But there's never been a case where queerness has ever largely characterized African or black subcultures. There just isn't enough historical precedent for that. (Or none that I'm aware of.) Queerness was tolerated and accepted but was relegated to the fringes of most African societies or capitalized on for specific functions, eg. Gay bodyguards and eunuch servants for female members of royal families. Outside of those contexts, it's never really been a thing for black people culturally until our identities got wrapped up in American and eurocentric societal contexts
@Maxipadtriplesix
@Maxipadtriplesix Жыл бұрын
A lot of the time people talk like this, they are only referring to American History, which is just dumb. They're acting like American history is the only history worth talking about.
@okdthefmv
@okdthefmv Жыл бұрын
Reality clearly shows that Humanity is a gradient expression of diversity and creation
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 Жыл бұрын
That's not poetic nor deep, that's pseduointellectual nonsense.
@okdthefmv
@okdthefmv Жыл бұрын
@@twsartadventures3660 how so?
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 Жыл бұрын
@@okdthefmv Reality does not show humanity is a gradient expression of diversity and creation. Reality shows humanity is solely focused on sin, and really only expresses and creates to further that goal. Only when the creator of reality is able to penetrate the heart of the individual can that person begin to even understand what self-expression and creation is, until then as He says, 'we see through the veil dimly'.
@okdthefmv
@okdthefmv Жыл бұрын
@@twsartadventures3660 hmmm...
@twsartadventures3660
@twsartadventures3660 Жыл бұрын
@@okdthefmv Read The Bible if you're interested in the facts. Jesus is God scientifically, The Bible is reality.
@boundedgod6259
@boundedgod6259 Жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha
@thebeatles102998
@thebeatles102998 Жыл бұрын
Perfect timing with the recent news on the objection to black queer theory in AP African American History classes right now.
@DennisCambly
@DennisCambly Жыл бұрын
Good message for everyone to hear
@clad9286
@clad9286 Жыл бұрын
Super interesting to listen to, role models are suuuuuuper important!!! 🔥🔥🔥
@mind-of-neo
@mind-of-neo Жыл бұрын
This was actually a very interesting talk. The black and queer communities have always worked together toward the common goal of freedom and respect
@IntrovertedE
@IntrovertedE Жыл бұрын
no they have not. The black community was the last community to accept gay marriage. what kind of revisionist b******* is this
@lilsquirt7228
@lilsquirt7228 Жыл бұрын
Do leftists actually think people don't see it when they just blatantly make things up? Or?
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@lilsquirt7228 Can you give examples? Can we compare them with the things the right make up all the time?
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@TanPale Elaborate
@alptt26
@alptt26 Жыл бұрын
clown
@katlegomashakoe4182
@katlegomashakoe4182 Ай бұрын
Your mom
@BlaZay
@BlaZay Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, with all due respect to the talk itself, I just can't take someone that "dresses" like that seriously. You can show off your culture through fashion without being virtually half-naked on a speech stage. This isn't the time nor the place to wear something so vulgar. Same reason why don't show up in a classroom or an office wearing a swimsuit. And just imagine the outrage if it was a woman instead...
@hubertnicolas5936
@hubertnicolas5936 Жыл бұрын
u're missing the whole point congrats
@BlaZay
@BlaZay Жыл бұрын
@@hubertnicolas5936 At least I made the effort of listening anyway, I'd be curious to know how many people simply didn't click for the thumbnail alone. I'm technically LGBTQ+ too, and the way these people present themselves is exactly why I and many others want nothing to do with them at best. It's so unnecessary, yet here we are.
@heresmyname-jz8ft
@heresmyname-jz8ft Жыл бұрын
​@@BlaZayinternalized homophobia, it's ok most of us go through that, take care
@heresmyname-jz8ft
@heresmyname-jz8ft Жыл бұрын
@@BlaZay " I'm the good kind of gay, these people give the good gays like me a bad name" sure buddy whatever
@heresmyname-jz8ft
@heresmyname-jz8ft Жыл бұрын
@@BlaZay so you're bothered by people's clothes and you can't take them seriously because the way they're dressed is not respectable by your standards. And that makes the hate that they receive somewhat understandable (but also unfair in case you get mixed with them). Ok cool, I got it.
@Jaacck45
@Jaacck45 Жыл бұрын
Amazing to listen to - Thank you 👏🏽
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
To the people that feel upsetting about this video. Are you even capable of making a logical argument on why this video is bad? Or are feelings getting you triggered?
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@OldUncleDan So your issue is that someone else decided to behave in away they feel comfortable(without hurting anyone other than their urges to be homophobic) and you cant deal with that.
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@OldUncleDan Maybe people shouldn’t be homophobes or repeat homophobic talking points. That would be a great start for gay people to be accepted. After all, they haven’t done anything wrong. They are human just like anyone else with a thinking brain.
@oxhorn2906
@oxhorn2906 Жыл бұрын
He is a direct example of the degradation of society.
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@oxhorn2906 How so? Elaborate
@oxhorn2906
@oxhorn2906 Жыл бұрын
@SaveDemocracy The globalist elite want weak men and broken families, the rest you can deduce for yourself.
@Quran60681
@Quran60681 5 ай бұрын
America is falling
@ChillWill2050
@ChillWill2050 Жыл бұрын
The Agenda from the dominant society is Heavy right now…. Y’all telling Me this is the Most pressing issue in Our Community…. Not Reparations???? Black Americans are thinking about how We built this country and we want our money With interest.
@ChillWill2050
@ChillWill2050 Жыл бұрын
@@JigglesJingle A fool and it’s comment, explain yourself to me, what is your lineage?
@jaxturner7288
@jaxturner7288 Жыл бұрын
@@ChillWill2050 lol figures, can’t answer his question so you want to know what nationality he his to go after that as a deflection. 🤡
@grayrecluse7496
@grayrecluse7496 Жыл бұрын
Monkeypox enough said!
@Itsdeadfrosty
@Itsdeadfrosty Жыл бұрын
What shambles modern society is in that a man can stand practically shirtless, in a skirt and absurd makeup, and people take it seriously
@skyehannah8388
@skyehannah8388 Жыл бұрын
The entire outfit is specifically about honoring the art of drag and queer culture, so it’s on par with the talk. ❤️
@Zeyede_Seyum
@Zeyede_Seyum Жыл бұрын
@@skyehannah8388 abhorrent culture
@lmfao69420
@lmfao69420 6 ай бұрын
You've been programmed by society to think there's something abhorrent about this.
@bmoe4609
@bmoe4609 6 ай бұрын
He is beautiful no different than a dude not wearing a shirt😂 and skirts are manly tf.
@bloodycloud8675
@bloodycloud8675 Жыл бұрын
🤢🤮
@enriib4820
@enriib4820 Жыл бұрын
Pass, man I’m glad I was born in the 70s this nonsense is out of control .
@uss-usaf-atlantis
@uss-usaf-atlantis Жыл бұрын
A little bit to gay and strage
@tophatturtle6452
@tophatturtle6452 Жыл бұрын
thank you for the perfect twitter bio lmao
@mind-of-neo
@mind-of-neo Жыл бұрын
Has anyone actually watched the video yet or are yall just clowning yourselves over his outfit?
@blacktoothlongwalker1037
@blacktoothlongwalker1037 Жыл бұрын
I watched it. History is important. Better to live in an uncomfortable truth than a comfortable delusion.
@seanmarkham6965
@seanmarkham6965 Жыл бұрын
Sorry can’t take anyone seriously if they wear that. Would you take a stripper seriously if they we’re wearing pasties and panties and try to give an intellectual speech? Better yet would you take a professor or your boss seriously if they were dressed like this? I doubt it. There’s a reason professional attire exists. Like gd just wear something at least that doesn’t show of your nipples and bulge. Just plain gross and unprofessional.
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
Its all the reactionaries doing what they usually do. They get their emotions riled up whenever they see someone different than them. They lack perspective
@Homelander-compV
@Homelander-compV Жыл бұрын
@@blacktoothlongwalker1037 👏
@Power_to_the_people567
@Power_to_the_people567 Жыл бұрын
@@seanmarkham6965 So basically your worldview rely on ad-hominem fallacies. What a sad life that is
@sisoshsasa
@sisoshsasa 5 ай бұрын
black women outnumber black men by a significant margin, this nonsense he’s talking about is absurd 👎🏾
@ceceo9480
@ceceo9480 9 ай бұрын
I remember when Ted prompted revolutionary ideas to improve the state of the human condition such as alleviating poverty. How far we have fallen!
@MultiBunnyhunter
@MultiBunnyhunter 9 ай бұрын
we don’t have to live with these people
@FreeYt-lt9fu
@FreeYt-lt9fu Жыл бұрын
no one cares about tjhat
@MultiBunnyhunter
@MultiBunnyhunter 2 ай бұрын
putting a sick guy like this on a stage isn’t fair to anyone. especially him.
@aaronrosenberg6633
@aaronrosenberg6633 Жыл бұрын
Really interesting talk. Thanks, Channing!
@Apice.
@Apice. Жыл бұрын
berg. interesting
@aaronrosenberg6633
@aaronrosenberg6633 Жыл бұрын
@@Apice. Oh, look at you thinking you're being _cryptic_ - how cute!
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