Hey everyone, YES this is an old video! I’ve been re-recording them for my compilations on @Johnny2Cozy. This has GREATLY IMPROVED audio, better editing and removed the ugly old border. Plus a shiny new thumbnail! Enjoy! Or don’t! You do you!

Not-so-fun fact about the phases of grief: The person who first coined them specifically called them phases and not stages since they were not linear. Yet, when they were popularised, they became linear and known as the Stages of Grief

I saw The Old Sugarman Place shortly after losing my son. I went through a lot of what Honey went through losing hers. I acted recklessly, just wanting to feel something other than grief. Absolutely amazing episode.

The sad part is that Mr. Sugarman really did think he was helping his wife because at the time, it was thought that lobotomies were a useful procedure. We know better with time but this was the 40's when psychology was not really that great.

This show was depressing as fuck but this EP took the cake

One thing I really appreciate about that dual scene when Beatrice and Honey/BoJack and Eddie are driving back to the house is that it shows Beatrice crashing into the gas station then pans back to show BoJack and Eddie pass it in the modern day, but the damage from Beatrice and Honey's accident is still there all those years later, showing how their trauma and grief have in part led to BoJack's trauma and grief as well. Season 4 will always be my favorite season for the focus on generational trauma, and it's shown in so many obvious and subtle ways.

it always infuriated me how he destroyed the house at the end of the episode. yes, he has done worse and its literally a cartoon house but when I rewatch it I always think what a f*cking as*hole he is.

"I can't be with people, and I can't be alone." My favorite episode by a landslide, I haven't been able to stop thinking about it

It's my first time dealing with grief in my life. Breakup. Not my first, but right person wrong time. She couldn't get better unless alone. Living in the grey is new to me. Thank you for the perspective.

Grief is awful. My mother passed away at the beginning of the year in February. She was literally the glue that held our family together and now she's just gone. Bojack is the only show that has really been at the front of my mind when dealing with very intense moments of grief. so many good messages and lessons throughout the series, but it's just funny little horse show right? Lol!

The sad part of a remastered video is that the old comments are gone....

In 2021, Bojack Horseman made me realize I wasn't okay during a time in my life when I was emphatically not okay.

This episode is why I can't ever hate BoJack completely. He's done a lot of horrible things, and he deserves to pay the price for them, but he's also the fruit of a poisoned tree with deeply depraved roots. How could he not have been a narcissistic manipulative ass given those were the only values he got from his parents, further magnified by the microscopic lens of a stand-up, sitcom, Hollywood career? It's kind of a miracle that he's even SOMETIMES a decent person. My headcanon for BJ is that after prison he became an acting coach, settled down in a townhouse with PB, and they worked on their issues together (with an occasional relapse just to keep them grounded). I don't need to see it animated, I just like to think that years later, he gave something back to the world for all he took... and also found the peace no one in his family ever had.

Cried like a baby the first time i watched it and still shes a tear each time 😢😢😢😢

My husband and i made "i will always think of you" our song, we sang it to each other at our wedding while my friend played piano. Now that hes gone this video hurts but in a beautiful way, from the good days together, to the dark day i sang to him before they took him away, to now. Ill always think of him.

This episode felt like a whole season to me. I was so engaged watching it and I felt like I was there in the Old Sugarman place throughout time, like an arrow. And by the time "I will always think of you" played, I was in awe. That was the first time I felt like this in a series and definitely one of my the episodes of my life. Bojack will always stay with me as this amazing thing it is. Great video, man. Love the Bojack stuff.

Honey's story gives me such chills, especially with how Time's Arrow follows up on how Beatrice was affected by everything.

Easily among my top 3 episodes of the series, though at that point, I have a very hard time deciding which is best. The transitions between and juxtaposes past and present and how well this episode both establishes history and trauma while simultaneously not beating you over the head with it truly makes it a stand-out, music and all.

Had to say goodbye to my absolutely beloved dog recently so I've been contemplating the various griefs people experience and the loves they stems from in the succeeding weeks. Maybe this popped up when I needed it most

The house reflects each characters trajectory. Beautiful and well-constructed but falls into disrepair, mirroring the Sugarman family. In disrepair then on some level repaired, mirroring BoJack

Crazy how I’m losing my dad, going thru a breakup, and rewatching bojack rn

Johnny please never stop making Bojack videos. You keep the show alive even after it’s been finished for so long ❤

Perfectly timed, I just started rewatching Bojack

I haven’t experienced major grief yet. I don’t think I’m ready, and I’m scared.

i think it's interesting comparison where both of the men: bojack and eddie went to anger rather than bargaining rather than beatrice, the woman who took to bargaining.

That gave me chills Johnny, “sometimes those consequences outlive us all”

This was the episode where I went from a casual observer of this show to a huge fan. I've never seen anything else that speaks to generational trauma so well. The story telling in this episode led me down a path of exploring these patterns in my own family - from the plane wreck that killed my great grandmother, through 2 generations of abusive matriarchs. I'm working hard to break the cycle in my own life. It's difficult when you don't have someone guiding you down a path of healing.

I feel bad for honey, the death of a child is the worst experience for a mother to go through. 😞

For me, This episode was both sad and interesting at the same time. My favorite parts were the flashback scenes with Beatrice and her family.

I lost my mother suddenly in 2016. And have very difficult and complicated feelings towards my father. So for me Free Churro is my favorite episode. Left me in complete silence. My mother wasn't anything like Bea, she was a very loving mother, but like everyone, we didn't always see eye to eye. Idk, it really resonated in me. This show captures grief and the complex feelings of it very accurately. Time to watch it for the 4th time lol

I didn't really experience a heavy grief in my life I think, but for some reason videos like this make me so, so emotional. This one and TB Skyen's one made me cry

ive been dealing with grief all year and something abt watching bojack struggle made me realize that, yes you have to move forward but you have to be able to look at the past to do so

My friend watched that one episode where bojack's in his mind like 1000 times after his dad passed

Havent u already made this video 3 years ago? Nvm just checked description

That song played in Breaking Bad around the time Walter was spiralling out of control -- for reasons other than grief, sure, but he did want to get out of his skin rather badly. It's not much of a connection but it doubled the sense of plunging into a featureless void.

This was also my favorite episode of the series….it really hit home

Wow. This puts in grief in a perspective I'd never considered before. I've been working on my own fiction about a character's grief, and this just gave me some huge inspiration! Keep up the good work! :D

I think there was a comment on the old video that also mentioned how this episode highlights war's long reach of destruction. Crackerjack was the only one in the family to fight in the war, but it lead to the breaking apart of Beatrice's whole family and trickled down to Bojack and Sara Lynn.

This was my comfort show back in 2021 ❤

This is one of my favorite episodes of Bojack too. In general I really connected with the episodes about Beatrice’s childhood. It’s so masterful the way she’s presented as a one dimensional villain throughout most of the show, and then we’re hit with all of this, and while she’s still awful for what she did, that awfulness makes sense now.

Season 4 is by far my favorite season between this and times arrow as well as all the hollyhock stuff.

Johnny will never get old with bojack

This episode is so heavy but yet it’s my favorite.

You have such a beautiful way of deep diving into this show and it makes me appreciate it so much more

A stellar video, as always! You point out so many things I never considered before and connected so many dots. It was literally with your closing words that I made the (potential) connection between Sarah Lynn's dream of being an architect, and Bojack and Eddie rebuilding the house 🤯

This episode kinda broke me. If I had half a mind

Ohhhh myyy god LETS GOOO I'm so happy you made a video on this episode it's my favorite in the whole series 🙏

Dude absolutely insightful I love it! Keep up the great work!

THANK YOU for all the BoJack videos, I found your channel through them and love how you analyse my favorite show💛

A great update to your old video! This is also my favourite episode of the series. I especially appreciated the revisiting of the phases of grief and the exploring of how healing isn’t linear.

I forgot this was an old video, but enjoyed the hell out of it! You did a GREAT job improving it. It hurts to get through the vids sometimes because the subject matters are so sad, but that means your explanation of everything encapsulates everything the creators were going for. Love your work man.

3 MINUTES AGO???? Yes please

great to this this episode get reuploaded now that the series has ended and we see, as you wonderfully explained, how a lot of the events of this episode now has some context added thanks to revelations we would see in future episodes. it's just such a shame that said revelations all show just how tainted Bojack's lineage is and you perfectly summed it up with the phrase "actions have consequences" almost all of the problems that Bojack has as a character is rooted back to the actions his grandfather chose to make because of his ignorance and refusal to change, which is why our choices in the here and now ARE important why we have to choose to either break the cycle and rise above the pain that inflicted us or drown in it and become like what Bojack inevitably became, especially since his own actions throughout the early parts of the series and with Sarah Lynn would have a ripple effect

what i find interesting is that Joseph Sugarman after entering shock never goes into denial and skips straight to stage 5) the upward turn never really processing the loss of his son just ignoring it and tries to go back to business as usual and after his wifes lobotomy he actual goes backwards through the stages entering a quiet depression having to live with the consequences in the form of his mentally deteriorating wife which leads to stage 3) anger and bargaining as he has to deal with his daughter growing into a more and more independent woman defying him and eventually drifting away it is likely he spent the remainder of his life in stage 2) pain and guilt.

enjoyed the video very much! keep up the great work sir 🎉😊

sometimes the consequences outlive us is a great line dude

Aw man, just what I needed today.

Thank you for this. I'm going through something similar right now. Now I know how I'll be able to move forward. 👊

Hooooooooboy😭 When I first saw you cover this episode, it was a couple of years ago before my mom passed. It’s been two years since her passing, and it’s terrifying seeing the similarities between Honey/Beatrice and my mom; right down to passing in the nursing home and the turban. She came from such a rich background, was a literal principal ballerina, debutant, brilliant, and gave it all up for my dad who drained her of life but she couldn’t let go of and died waiting for him. She had a stroke and an aneurysm and when I say it she was identical to Honey after her lobotomy. She even pulled a Henrietta and had a whole secret son she never told me and my sister about that she was forced to give up by her socialite mom (LITERALLY Beatrice Horseman, all the worst parts) as a teen-and he just happened to find me on social media literally last year. So watching this again is going to be a trip, but definitely so needed before Mother’s Day. Thank you for always making amazing content, and keeping our love for this series alive and well.

pls make more videos about Tuca & Bertie this show needs recognition and your style is perfect for it

Great video Johnny! Why, I have half a mind...

Enjoyed this video truly

Honey Sugarman and Eddie the fly singing is by far my favorite moment in this show. It’s so tragically beautiful

O geee i love it when you do Bojack episodes...

I know we've seen this thumbnail before but man, I love how these thumbnails look

my grandmother just died last week. it’s indescribable how much I saw her in the portrayal of Beatrice & in this show as a whole

Love the bojack content

Made me cry

This is an AMAZING thumbnail

I think the most haunting part of the "well i have half a mind to ..." and "you can keep that half" is that honey brished this line off if anyone daid that now it wold be an instant red flag but honey didnt want to belive her beloved hisband would hurt her she thinks everything he does is for her own good he could stab her and she wouldnt bat an eye

My jaw dropped at the end of the episode when I saw little Beatrice leaving the house with her bike while Bojack destroyed the house.

Hey, Johnnie. I'm hoping one day you can tackle parental relationships in Bojack. Maybe compare how some characters were raised and compare it to where they end up with their kids or similar

I think alot of people think Joseph is more problematic and evil than he really is. I just think hes a product of his time, especially with the lobotomy. I dont think he did that to punish Honey. Back then, people really did think this was a miracle cure for mental illness. Mental health care was in its infancy in this time period, people knew very little about it and there weren't the treatments we have today. Psychiatic drugs didnt exist yet and therapy was a taboo thing. Not to mention Joseph seems to be a kind of reserved guy who keeps his emotions to himself or just bottles them up and explains things away like a "man should be like". Which is also a product of the time. I think he got Honey the lobotomy because he really thought it would help her and when it didnt he bottled up his emotions or explained it all away. Joseph did love his family alot but was just an extreme product of the time period and we are judging him based on the standards of today which are very different. Doesnt make what he did ok or good. Its just that he's not an evil person who wanted to hurt others.

Ah, yes, one of the most emotional Bojack episodes, and also my favorite

One of my top 3 episodes

Are you a lifetime of alcohol and drug abuse? 'Cos you're killin' it with the BoJack content!!

Bojacks writers knew exactly what they were doing with this episode and I love it so much🤍

this is a bombastic vdieo

This is my 2nd favorite episode!

i just finished watching bojack for the first time and so ive been filling that bojack void with yt vids for the past week... are you spying on meeee lol you mustve seen that ive been watching all these videos like crazy 🙃

❤ ur stuff

I said eff work, drinking beer, and our man 2 cellos drops a new video. Shiiiet

i cried

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Hey Johnny! Just wondering, where do you get your clips from?

Psychology student here! I would like to clarify something at 8:30, a regular person can't "opt" for brain damage. Lobotomies were used in mental health facilities in the 30s for people who display violent or very inappropriate behavior, looking at Honey's fit of mania and pressuring Beatrice to drive a car, it could be safe to assume that Joseph simply checked her into a mental health facility, which would make sense since he obviously could afford it, and honey was problematic in there, eventually, the doctors decided that she should be lobotomized, now I know what people might think of lobotomies at first because this was my reaction when I saw it on the show and learned about it in class, lobotomies AREN'T used to damage the brain, it's a simple matter of severing the frontal part of the brain from the rest. The expectation is that they become less tense and agitated and there are a lot of successes, however in Honey's case unfortunately, it can sometimes leave a person emotionally blunted and intellectually reduced in other words, pretty much brain-dead. It's also worth mentioning that Joseph's own unempathetic behavior could be due to his own past, he said it himself, he was never taught how to handle other people's emotions, his ignorant actions with his Family, like Beatrice and BoJack's are appalling but as Johnny suggested, this could be an effect of the cycle of abuse that is being left on BoJack's Family, looking at it all, it's hard to say when it began. When we stray down a dark path we often need to count on others to help us control ourselves and get back our sense of control and self, BoJack's family never did, but BoJack did, and he gained control eventually, and despite how it all ended for him, we can all at least Believe in him and others who may stray from the path of Good, Thanks for Reading and Have a Great Day 💙

YESSS BOJACK

watching the episode I was 100% sure Honey killed Lorein and it was even reinforced in the gas station scene which is owned by eddie

I may or may not have introduced myself as Hambone Fakenamigton.

Look at me everybody. Pay no attention to the roof of that barn!

Does Beatrice ever drive in the series besides when she was a child? I might be blanking but i don’t think i’ve ever seen her in the drivers seat again

I didn't cry until she said the God damn line

Yooo new BJ video! 🎉

Deja vu, I just been in this place before (not complaining AT ALL I'm thrilled!!)

I might be grasping at straws here but I think there might be a connection between A Horse With No Name and the fact that his character on Horsin' Around also didn't really have a name - just The Horse 🤔

Bojack's grandad looks like John Vernou Bouvier the III Jackie O's dad.

Free churro is my favorite

live Laugh LOBOTOMY

In the end, our choices make us

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