How can I tell if my Morgan Silver Dollar is real or fake?

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How can I tell if my Morgan Silver Dollar is real or fake?

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Hope this helps you out some! What other factors determine a fake coin? Let me know so we can all learn something ;)
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@karenash7381 3 жыл бұрын

Such a slow talker.

@weltschmerz333 3 жыл бұрын

2x speed does wonders

@moethelegend5787 3 жыл бұрын

Karen

@ICONICCOINS 3 жыл бұрын

@MoeTheLegend I noticed that too lmao

@cathygentry4444 2 жыл бұрын

Enlighting

@cherylherring5860 2 жыл бұрын

I think the gentleman did good. He spoke where everyone could understand him. If you can't say something nice you shouldn't say it at all

@jeffw1267 4 жыл бұрын

If you have a circulated Morgan or Peace dollar that you can hold in your hand, and know that it's authentic, you can hold it in your hand on a regular basis and get used to the weight of it. You'll be able to spot the light ones without any difficulty by simply picking them up and can thus dispense with using a scale. If it's the right weight or even heavier but is a fake, it will be considerably thicker than a real dollar. This is helpful if you're looking at a big lot of circulated dollars.

@theroller5673 4 жыл бұрын

Last week I threw out three nickels from my late grandfather's collection I thought to be counterfeit. By using your techniques and looking at how poor certain areas were struck, it was easy to see that the buffalos on them were actually missing one of their front legs! To think he had them since the late thirties and never knew.

@ModernMiner4 4 жыл бұрын

1936-D or 1937-D right? That's a valuable coin!

@briannolan7818 2 жыл бұрын

LOL

@jeffreystine7068 Жыл бұрын

This a joke right?

@ARCGRAPHIX2011 Жыл бұрын

Lmao 😜

@anthonycongiano8890 Жыл бұрын

Hahahahhahaa!

@skyreader47 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a very helpful presentation. It's so easy, especially, to weigh a Morgan you've bought in order to weed out fakes. He also addresses other ways to tell -- the sates for instance.

@robertb3214 4 жыл бұрын

A great deal of data exists for every Morgan ever minted. Reed edge counts are different for many of the Morgans so if it supposed to have significant Numismatic value, then counting those reed edges and looking up the recorded data and comparing is a good move.

@jebbbig 3 жыл бұрын

Bought a couple of fakes in the 1970's. So glad a coin shop owner took the time to educate me on fakes.

@steveludwig4200 2 ай бұрын

They must have been rare dates because I remember most silver dollars in early to mid 70s in Good or VG condition sold for $2 or so.

@tmc-bh1eo 2 жыл бұрын

Great video. Another thing I noticed on the fake were that the tips of the wings are considerably rounder than on the real coin. Also there’s something weird about the woman’s ear on the fake.

@davidludwig3975 3 жыл бұрын

For some reason, these videos are so relaxing to watch.

@209rattlesnake 2 жыл бұрын

Smooth voice!

@crtreasures1136 5 жыл бұрын

Reorganizing my Morgan's and Piece dollars for storage. I will test them and reweigh them also. If any are questionable I will do a specific gravity test.

@ThesexyMrX Жыл бұрын

So was the fake even silver? What about the sound test?

@JINX-bw5ib 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a superb education of the coins. Also your presentation is great, the comparisons taught me so much.

@robertwilliamson6121 2 жыл бұрын

What about the magnet test? And the Ping test? There are now a couple of apps for testing various precious metals by the Ping sound. And if you put the coin in a thin plastic sleeve and let a powerful tiny magnet slide down it on a 45° angle….the magnet should slow going over a real Morgan.

@youKnowWho3311 5 жыл бұрын

That Table looks like you have dropped some serious coin on it. Great vid.

@ModernMiner4 5 жыл бұрын

youKnowWho3311 More or less 😉 Thanks!

@rcord12 4 ай бұрын

Also use a magnet for the slightest attraction to magnets.

@shugabush_is_king 2 ай бұрын

Thank you

@FlyRich72 2 жыл бұрын

Good info.. was in Philippines and someone was trying to pass off a Morgan dollar 1888 and a 1862 US dollar to me. $50 each. They are way more than that

@ruthharlin7823 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info. I have a 1901 Morgan Silver dollar from your description it appears real, Mint 0. Is a bit worn. Thanks what is the next step in selling?

@ModernMiner4 2 жыл бұрын

eBay is a great option.

@briannolan7818 2 жыл бұрын

That was a great, informative video. I'm new at collecting and this video will probably save me a lot of money. Where can I buy a scale like you used in the video?

@ModernMiner4 2 жыл бұрын

Amazon has em

@lucretius68 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video, very informative. Especially in determining the authenticity of a Morgan by its weight in grams. Had no idea there were so many real looking Morgan fakes being sold online.

@goldslinger Жыл бұрын

My X-ray machine helps too. Will detect every element of composition

@deborahlittle2929 3 жыл бұрын

I have 4 silver dollars -- 1900,1922, 1922, 1923 --each weighs 26 grams on my scale which only does whole numbers. Where can I get them appraised?

@ToGuyFor Жыл бұрын

I purchased a Morgan Silver dollar off eBay recently, was described in "About Uncirculated," condition. However, it weighed 23 grams, which I couldn't believe. It was a fake, off eBay. I strongly suggest avoiding the site of uncertified Morgan dollars.

@cosmepagadora9181 2 жыл бұрын

Sir thanks for your information regarding this coins caused I have one Morgan dallar 1898 thanks for info.

@rickkrakora4607 Жыл бұрын

Other things to look for on fake morgans....fading/weak LIBERTY in the headband, weak/thin M (designer mark) on bottom of morgan bust (right above the date)....

@stevegridley1686 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for a very informative video. I just purchased an 1887 Morgan that is correct for dimensions and weight. However the finish is different and the silver content is 94.98% (by XRF). I would like to send a photo of the coin for your input.

@2fathomsdeeper 2 жыл бұрын

Had a worn standing quarter that looked as if it had a silver plated brass planchet. It XRF tested 90% and also had around .01% gold content.

@HRABIAME Жыл бұрын

But there are some very well preserved with minimal wear also for example someone was a collector

@HRABIAME Жыл бұрын

@ModernMiner942 i live in Uk can’t call you

@richardliew2725 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your important information regarding fake Morgan coin I learned a lot now from you regards from RichardLiew from Kuala Lumpur Malaysia

@davidbirds6201 2 жыл бұрын

Just saved me 50 bucks thank you

@TomRommelmann 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, very helpful but you forgot to mention the ping test.

@209rattlesnake 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, I was waiting for it too!

@marceldeclercq5174 Жыл бұрын

Hello, there is also such a product with which you can test your silver. You scratch a metal piece with your coin and you put a drop of that liquid on it. If the morgan is false, the product turns brown, if the product remains red, it is silver. You know what I mean. And you know where I can buy that and what this is called. Regards,Ed

@conover1978 2 ай бұрын

Great extensive video. Thank you very much. I was checking 3 of these for my mom. And then on to be graded. After I weighed them. Wow. Foooed me. All of them were 22.grams. Then compared them to mine that were a solid 26. Grams. Thx.

@mrsseasea 3 жыл бұрын

Also that (M) on her neck at the bottom above the (9) in 1901. Its strange?

@DylanDykil93-jm5oc 6 ай бұрын

A Morgan dollar was discovered as genuine it was struck on aluminum. Unfortunately pcgs didn't list the coins weight but the aluminum Morgan should weigh less than silver.

@garyk8285 Жыл бұрын

If you take a Morgan Dollar and lie it flat, and you do the same with a Peace Dollar and lie it flat and next to each other. Does the Morgan Dollar appear slightly thicker because of the Coin Rim design on the Morgan Dollar, vs the very simple and somewhat thinner Rim on the Peace Dollar?

@cayote1 Жыл бұрын

I sent away for some Morgans. 28 of them. They were not numismatic as they said they were and were just loose in a small very thinly padded plastic bubble envelope. and now that I see this I am going to weigh and inspect them One is an 1895. Would you like to see some photos?

@cayote1 Жыл бұрын

Yes it turns out that they are fakes. They weigh about 23.5 ounces each there fore fake. Real morgans weigh about 26.+ ounces. Now I would like to check the actual metal. How do I test if you please?

@thatrallycarguy Жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for your wisdom and knowledge on these Morgan dollars!!!! I've started collecting them and I'm about halfway through on my first set..lol but thanks again for a very informative video!!!! Keep on stacking and keep On keepin On!!!

@alexanderfaust4192 5 жыл бұрын

Very very informative - thank you so much!

@kencoonen8123 4 жыл бұрын

Great video. Very informative. What are the fake coins made of? I have a morgan that is clearly fake. If I cut it in half would I see that it was made of copper or brass? Thanks.

@ModernMiner4 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Yes, they are often made of copper or brass. Some are even made of silver. The coin I show here is made of brass.

@kencoonen8123 4 жыл бұрын

@@ModernMiner4 So I cut the coin in half. It was silver color throughout. Not sure that means anything or not. Aloe, I noticed that real and fake coins sound different when dropped on a table.

@ModernMiner4 4 жыл бұрын

@@kencoonen8123 Well, could be made of anything silver color. Yeah, the sound a coin makes can be a quick and easy giveaway for fakes.

@davidwelch1903 Жыл бұрын

So what you're sayin is you cut a Morgan silver dollar in half by mistake 😆😆😆

@kencoonen8123 Жыл бұрын

@@davidwelch1903 I weighed the fake coin and it was a fair amount less than a real one.

@rob7710 Жыл бұрын

Thank you I avoided buying Morgan's because I don't know that much about them. I just recently bought 3 I ping tested them and they pinged real but I've got a 1897 S that looks kind of wonky.

@gloriashade2 Жыл бұрын

I enjoyed your video . I’ve had a 1799 silver dollar for years. My eyes are bad my friend did something with a magnet and said it wasn’t real. It’s still in my junk drawer. Could tell me I’d I could tell by that if it’s real!! It was my mom’s thank you Gloria shade

@darrellray5569 Жыл бұрын

If a magnet sticks to it, it is not real.

@bigbarkingdog2010 2 жыл бұрын

Helpful. Thank you.

@paularockenhauser4524 Жыл бұрын

what if it doesn't have a date or mint mark?

@summeralrawahneh9940 Жыл бұрын

I have 2 1921 and 1 that is 1904 how can I tell how much they are worth I'm interested in selling them

@ParaBreakdown Жыл бұрын

I also like to use the magnetic test.

@richardhaddock5660 2 жыл бұрын

I didn't know that thre were fake Morgan's out there. I will have to invest in a scale. Thank you for the informative video.

@Rocknranchman Жыл бұрын

I read in the 2023 red book that there is a tiny M on the left side of the ribbon bow on the Reverse side under the eagle. I have verified that it does exist on my few Morgan’s that are in my collection. Does that counterfeit have that tiny M? Great video! 👍 New subscriber!

@mathematician1234 Жыл бұрын

You can see at 0:54 the little M on the good one. At 1:03 you can see a poor-looking attempt at it, appearing as a kind of indentation on the bad one.

@hanotify 4 ай бұрын

What's the best way to clean an old coin . Thanks.

@shugabush_is_king 2 ай бұрын

You don’t it loses value that way

@eddiekulp1241 6 ай бұрын

Seems like making a fake coin would cost to much

@acousticshadow4032 2 жыл бұрын

The weight disparity is key, but imho the wear differences are only slight, and too vague to be determining factors. Also, the "weird graininess" doesn't come across in the video - may in person, but not in the video. The dates aren't "off" enough to be a sole determining factor, either. Imho, it all comes down to the weight. Would have been nice if you told us what metal the fakes are made out of? Can't be 90% Silver, or it wouldn't be profitable enough to justify the effort. Are they Nickel, Zinc, or ???

@ojllk1446 5 күн бұрын

how much is a worth 1902 cc Morgan silver dollar I will not find any information on the Internet about this year and what the value of this dollar is. Do you have information on how much it is worth?

@Zachary615ify 3 жыл бұрын

So my 1903s weighs 26.0 and it was circulated, not magnetic, so would this be a real one 🙃 I bought it in middle school from a kid for a dollar he wanted a hill and I liked coins so I traded. Just curious if the weight could seem right? Probably gonna get appraised and see but just was wondering your thoughts about the weight.

@GR19611 Жыл бұрын

So helpful thanks. Do you ever call out Ebay sellers?

@mathematician1234 Жыл бұрын

If you have a real Morgan dollar and others that are suspected fakes, the following may help. I had a good one (purchased 30+ years ago for $15) and three fakes (bought recently for $1 each). I mixed them up recently and could not figure out which was the real one. I wanted to weigh them but had no weighing machine. So, I put them one-at-a-time exactly at the end of a wooden ruler and then slid the ruler out over the edge of a book until the coin tipped the ruler down to my desk, noting the reading on the ruler's edge when that happened. The three fakes all tipped at one reading on the ruler's edge, the real one tipped much sooner because it was notably heavier. I found my real one!

@sushibar777 Жыл бұрын

WHat about the Peace Silver Dollars? Were they counterfeited too?

@victorcruz8993 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for educating us.. very helpful info 👍😊

@ChrisOrban79 Жыл бұрын

I bought 6 Morgan Dollars from 1879, 1884, 1885, 1886, 1900 and 1921 and 17 Peace Dollars 1922-1926 here in Germany today in a pawn shop for a total price of €460, which is €20 each, which is €2.45 more than the spot i think the price is ok for all 23 coins 460€ equals 507$ and 20€ a piece equals 22$ what do you think about the price was it a bargain? how much do the coins cost at your pawn shop in the usa?

@MissingLink001 6 ай бұрын

I don't know if it's just me but at the beginning of the video 0:57 where you show the 2 coins I noticed that the last "A" in America on the real one you can clearly see the bar across the A but you can't really see it on the fake. Maybe that's just me and my eyesight or just the way you held them both but all the way through I was trying to see if it was just me and to me it's consistent all the way through the video. If I'm right do you think that could be another way to spot a fake?

@Mikej1592 11 ай бұрын

the whole time you were saying "this brown color" I was sitting here looking at your GREEN coin LOL. anyway, great info and tips for spotting fakes. On yours another thing I noticed the date looks more like 19 01 than 1901 the spacing of the numbers looks just off. And it sure does look cast rather than struck. If counterfeiters ever figure out how to cast a 27g planchet then using a hammer, anvil or vice to stamp out their fakes we're screwed lol.

@user-qr8nh9vx5h 8 ай бұрын

Great video. I just bought the scale, similar to that in the video, after watching. After weighing a Morgan dollar, it checked out well. I then established its weight after sealing it in an airtite capsule. Question- would it be ok to use this weight (coin plus capsule) as a benchmark in weighing my other already-encapsulated Morgans, without having to remove them from their capsules (understanding the slight weight differences due to wear)? Thanks for your time!

@wernerbraun3446 2 ай бұрын

Hallo I have a morgan silverdollar 1891 S with a waight of 27,23 is this a fake or a real one???

@brucewilkes7509 2 жыл бұрын

I have a few coins bought from E-Bay. I am worried I may have been ripped off. I will weight he coins after seeing your video. Are the fakes still silver? is there any seight value in them or are they worthless, made of lead oe Zinc?

@Lilacsinostara Жыл бұрын

I myself am worried also on ebay ..i zoomed in on a morgan several actually to verify authenticity well as much as i could it ended at 33.50 so i hope it checks out when i get it I'll have to buy a scale and use magnet test

@judylandriault3940 Жыл бұрын

I have a uncirculated 1886 dollar no mint mark ? Any idea the value ? It's so hard to trust who will be truthful ?

@Tinstared 3 жыл бұрын

I got a fake mixed in with a bunch of cull dollars. It had that brown or gray finish. Under glass it looked cast not struck. Then the acid test wouldn' t show red. My friend who has been in coin business for years passed on to me. He has no idea. I never did like the color on it. I finally got a acid tester and it doesn't test silver. weight on this one is a little heavy. Shows wear marks on breast but not wings. The the arrow heads that the eagle is holding are really messed up.

@martywebb1487 Жыл бұрын

I just went through a horrible experience today from a shop think my price was switched bc he took it and disappeared on me for like 10 mns and I'm not stupid all he had to do was use the xrf or whatever

@peterpete3125 3 жыл бұрын

Very nice video, just what I needed.

@wendysdca Жыл бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed this video! Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I heard you mention correspondence 👍is that allowed ❓ If so I would love to ask you a question. Thank you 😊 Wendy

@carolroskos2324 4 жыл бұрын

If purchasing from Littleton Coin Company do you need to worry about them being fake?

@onedollasnake 3 жыл бұрын

Nah just being overpriced

@SilverDollarSaloon 2 жыл бұрын

You left out the magnet test. No need to do any other testing if it is attracted to a magnet.

@robinandthedog 4 жыл бұрын

The fake one has some black points on it, I saw in another video that this also comes from pouring the coin instead of real minting. Is that a true red flag indicator?

@ModernMiner4 4 жыл бұрын

It definitely could be. While a real dollar may have similar issues (you never know where it's been), black spots like that are not typical. Poured coins can often be identified by their grainy surface texture, and by random pinholes on the surface.

@joelover2631 Жыл бұрын

I definitely bought a fake One, thanks for the information.

@bvierville1 4 жыл бұрын

Good stuff, thanks for sharing!

@lucasvicentini777 5 жыл бұрын

Hello, I have One Silver Dollar 1887, but I don't know if is true. Can you help me? I From Brazil

@ghostcityshelton9378 4 жыл бұрын

Hi! You can weigh the coin, get a coin magnet and if the magnet sticks to the coin it is fake, put the coin on your finger and gently tap it with another coin & a real Morgan should have a nice high pitch ringing sound. Hope that helps.

@wafiekzaky3895 11 ай бұрын

Can you please send the address of your shop I need someone in Newyork to help me checking if my morgan dollar with 30 degree rotated dies is real Thanks a lot

@leesaint8568 3 жыл бұрын

Hi I’ve got a silver Morgan dollar 1896 it looks quite worn down The weight is 25.70 g it’s also has a O above the dollar word trying to figure out if it’s real or not. Plz

@timholmes4331 5 жыл бұрын

If a coin was made of 90% silver but was a rare year then how can you tell it was fake ??

@ModernMiner4 5 жыл бұрын

Tim Holmes The same factors in the video can apply. If it’s fake, the method of manufacture can give it away.

@ghostcityshelton9378 5 жыл бұрын

@@ModernMiner4 I have a free App on my phone : Coin Facts It's very Interresting & can teach alot of cool facts.

@ghostcityshelton9378 5 жыл бұрын

Tim you can get a free app called: Coin Facts. It shows pictures of coins, tells what they should weigh, how many were made, what some coins have sold for all kinds of stuff.

@ghostcityshelton9378 5 жыл бұрын

@@ModernMiner4 Hi ! Also if a coin sticks to a coin magnet it's fake.😙

@phillipsmith6136 4 жыл бұрын

All of the videos show how test check/test them outside of a 2x2. Mist I come in contact with are still in them. How do I check other than magnet?

@ModernMiner4 4 жыл бұрын

For a coin in a 2x2, that can be tricky. However, the best way is to learn to identify them visually. Not all fake silver dollars are obvious to the eye, but many examples can be easily spotted. Try searching for silver dollars on eBay and picking out ones that look fake (or even ones that are sold as copies). Figure out why they look fake, and keep those factors in your mental toolbox. An example is that some will have brass color showing through the silver plating. Otherwise, if you're looking at a coin that is for sale, perhaps in a coin shop or at a coin show, ask to see it outside of the 2x2. If it helps them sell it, it would be ridiculous not to do it. I hope this helps, let me know if there's anything I can clarify.

@phillipsmith6136 4 жыл бұрын

@@ModernMiner4 Thanks. I will do mor research on them. Most "this is a fake" videos are magnets and weight. But I will studies my butt off now in hopes to not get screwed! Again thanks.

@ModernMiner4 4 жыл бұрын

@@phillipsmith6136 No problem! If you have any more questions, let me know.

@BucksBe 3 жыл бұрын

Great video! Thank you so much :)

@rcord12 4 ай бұрын

Good informational video 😊

@michaelguilas4057 Жыл бұрын

It depends how the coin was used. If you have a scratch mark on your face it doesn’t mean you should have scratch mark all over your body with the same deep and sizes. It is not perfect every time , that is why there are coin errors. You can see clearly that the coin was used a lot of times just like the other coins it went into different hands and without complaining until now there is you saying it is useless. If you believe that coin is fake why don’t you throw it away or destroy it and show it on you tube.

@AnthonyAnastasio-n7z 19 күн бұрын

How about using a magnet

@Brooks0511 Жыл бұрын

I have some silver rounds that don’t sound right when they are pinged they pass magnet and weight test . Any other suggestions ?

@horkneeoldman 2 жыл бұрын

No mention of the ping test or magnet test. But good vid.

@johnwauters8576 9 ай бұрын

26.72 mine

@earlsessions1815 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1895 weight looks right I'll stick to a magnet and the date looks legit the fives look good it looks real Philadelphia

@tonefrog 3 жыл бұрын

I have a1902... checks in at 26/27g.🇺🇸 maybe I should sell it? 🤔

@haroldhprittjr7007 Жыл бұрын

At the end of this video the fronts the m at the back of her hat the fake one that m the first line is to fat but the real one that line is real narrow. The weight of mine is 26.78 it’s AU-UN and the date with my 1 is like the real one and the m matches his real one so I think I have the real deal 1884 O mint I got around 50$ in it

@chanceamandageee157 2 жыл бұрын

i have a 192 1 with a tiny 9 stamped on the neck ?

@xredrum187mypsnid4 4 жыл бұрын

I have an 1896 double die reverse Morgan silver dollar I can’t seem to find anything on it anywhere

@toygun_unboxing4363 9 күн бұрын

Thanks it helped alot

@jrtjonathanwinchell3955 3 жыл бұрын

So I have an American Eagle Silver Dollars from 1986-1998 some are brown and some aren't but they have been in my Dansco album for more than 20 years and the other years from 1999-2003 I have not yet completed it buying it on Ebay what do I do with the ones that are brown around in the corners do I take them out of album or do I just keep it in there till I sell it eventually? I also have no clue on the grade because I have collected it and have stored for 20 years and I have no intention in selling it but with said my sons aren't interested in my collection what do I do?

@jrtjonathanwinchell3955 3 жыл бұрын

@@ModernMiner4 thats a good idea. I almost finished with that set so I'll probably finish it and update coins. In fact I'll probably deposit it because the value would be face value.

@ModernMiner4 3 жыл бұрын

@@jrtjonathanwinchell3955 I wouldn't recommend depositing those. You'd be cheating yourself out of a lot more money

@remkye Жыл бұрын

1904 morgan weighting at 27 grams fake?

@UDTGHOST420 3 жыл бұрын

Yes I have a question for you I've been waiting a few more than dollars some of them are coming up 27.1 g does that mean it's fake

@ModernMiner4 3 жыл бұрын

The weight tolerance for Morgans is 26.73 grams +/- 0.097g. I would be skeptical.

@pkdarth1807 2 жыл бұрын

I have a 1881 Morgan dollar that seems to have a mistake on the neck idk if the letter "y" is suppose to be there is that normal? Any help on that would be appreciated thanks!

@ModernMiner4 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure. I'd have to see it

@kurtreese7408 8 ай бұрын

Are the fakes cast or struck?

@aliasady9581 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you so mach ❤❤❤i have one 1890( 26.2 g)

@patreasurehunters 4 ай бұрын

Did you buy the fake before you knew how to identify?

@EViLLennY 4 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately they come from china i was offeren a set for less then 30 bucks the patina on all the coins are the same weight ur coins beware

@AnthonyLamberson-re1gf 15 күн бұрын

Hey I got some 1882 dollar coins can you get me a price on how much they worth

@earlsessions1815 2 жыл бұрын

I ment it does not stick to a magnet

@donnarouse5366 2 жыл бұрын

I found one in my brother's collection. From 1896.and it is gold color. Can I clean back to silver?

@ModernMiner4 2 жыл бұрын

No, you should not clean it. That will hurt the value. The more original the better.

@michaelyunckes2987 Жыл бұрын

I have him recently found one apparently it's apparently it's 2nd mint 1921 21 I could really use your help on telling whether or not it's real could I send you photograph