Is the lifetime fee 250 dollar or 300 dollar? It says both numbers on the page at 1:12

300 $/Euro(ger) with or without the CuriosityStream (about 3 $/month) Bundel? Or do I have to wait for the Bundel Deal Cupon? 10 Years x 30$/Year = 300$. Nebula founded in 2019, so it's 4 Years old. So if I belive Nebula survives >10 Years (no inflation/Cupons/...) it's a better deal then the /Year one?

The wanted 250 and then said nah 300 people will pay 300

Even with that offering it's still not worth it. The potential is there, but it's not good besides the content of KZfaqrs like TA.

These Nebula exclusive bonus/extra videos are only like 4-5 mts long, not really worth getting a subscription.

For sure I was playing Apex Legends for some time and as I was playing I would often notice these weird high frequency beeping sounds in the background and also weird flashing. Think of the mcollough effect and how easily the mind can be manipulated.

With every worldly issue that isn’t just arguing about fiction. It’s complicated.

I think gaming and gambling or any adrenaline related thrill seeking activity has a common root. By the way I have yet to see that they ban gambling parlors in PRC, those are more harmful in my opinion than video games.

Maybe their choice of handling is not the best, however nowadays addictive games are bad news, the fact that kids spend their parents money is one thing, however the real danger is what the lasting effects of such interaction can be and how they can change the way kids percieve the world forever.

got a link for that?

I remember when my parents wanted for me to stay longer at school my results actually went down (*there were some after school lessons). You can't productively learn more than about 2 or 3 hours per day..... it's just impossible. Learning is not like "chopping wood" sometimes less is more. More lessons and more learning is not the answer to anything. More motivation to learn is the best but you still can't force yourself to learn more. There is some limited capacity and if you go into overdrive too much your results will go down, not up. Also if the environment around you is stressful somehow, your results will go down if your parents constantly fight or if your family has financial problems anything which moves your "brain attention" away is very bad. My best result in school were the best when my family was most "healthy" as a whole. You can't expect a kid with problems in the family to perform well. It's very complex problem of course the most important is motivation but even with all the motivation in the world you should know your limits and not go above, or your results will certainly go down and you can't overcompensate, because you'll get even worse. It's like fighting with water when going to drown, you should stop fighting the water, more intense flapping will not save you.

China does have a lot of playgrounds and parks though.

@@davidk.d.7591 2 or 3 of them I hear! But seriously, 雲南 was one big park- can't same the same for 廣東。

Mine yelled at me for playing games a lot too, but yelled at me even more when I wanted to go visit a friend, go out to eat, to the park, etc. It made no sense.

Damn... That is so sad.

Nvidia doesn't need our peasant money when AI companies pay them millions monthly for GPUs

​@@dacueba-gamesMoney is something that's never enough...

Thats true. And because GPU Chips are limited it makes more sense for them to sell them to AI companies instead of gamers since they will pay a lot more.

Most people game on their phones tho

Most chinese kids play on their phones

theyre trying to fix that too tho to be fair

@@heckoff7904 Yea they are, it is also kind of sad how much pressure Chinese parents put on children trying to pass the Chinese central exam with high grades.

​@@guill90even then that still didnt guarantee a job hence the high youth unemployment

When I was a kid, I spent lots of time outdoors. When I was diagnosed with myopia, I was told it's because I "read books too much". The blame game never ends... When I looked at the studies last time, I got the impression that rather than just sunlight exposure, myopia is caused by lack of re-focusing (and sunlight exposure) during a *crucial developmental age* which is however *different for everyone*. So like I got myopia because I didn't spend time outdoors when I was 5-6 years old, but someone else's range might've been 7-8 years old, and someone else might've had the crucial time during 4-5 years of age. And because the effects/onset of myopia is delayed by months/years, the studies have so far not been entirely conclusive

@MenkoDany You also have people who inherit myopia genetically from their parents. I want to point out that there was a significant increase in myopia cases in a few countries like China, South Korea, and Taiwan. It was linked to the overly competitive education system and kids being in a cram school from dawn-to-dusk.

Never heard the saying, but I will use it

Gujarat has a very sophisticated black market of alcohol.

Any type of prohibition just prompts the creation of black markets to get around it. Americas 18th amendment prohibition or the war on drugs are both good examples of how this works at different scales.

Gujarat?

No. Stolen things are not sweet and secrets will rot you to the core ... What a disgusting proverb.

You also don't have to stop playing to not be addicted. I almost entirely stop playing video games if I'm stressed for time like uni,. but when I'm on holiday opening Elden Ring and playing while calling with friends from abroad is always a fun experience. There are also a lot of fun multiplayer games to play. Also, I firmly believe video games are really important children's interests in engineering tech and loads of other valuable skills. China is making a big mistakes here. I personally learned to build a PC when I was 13. learning how to choose parts and computers is an invaluable skill to have in the modern day that most people don't have.

honestly i play games to chat with my friend..without them i wouldnt play as much

I think the chinese had already analysising many options and chinese goverment do have many experts to help them to make a decision.

That's' your personal experience and anecdotal evidence.

Why do people think 10 yr Olds must have underlying issues. Introducing carefully designed crutches such as gaming and addictive technology is grounds for creating such underlying issue that builds upon each other. Same for minors, same for adults.

People don't get individual 24hr monitoring. What does happen is the employees can skim through the data and look through those photos.

@@cubicinfinity2 they can set up red flags like 80 year old with so much time clocked in

@@abdiganiadenthis is honestly really sad. This sounds like an institution or a prison. There’s being harsh and then there’s this.

​@@jalene150 Nothing "harsh" about protecting children from videos game adiction.

@@peekaboopeekaboo1165 The world may be going to ruin but at least there won't be any video game addiction. Problem solved I'd say

Remove "in China" from this comment and it becomes even truer...

I have a college classmate who has lived in an internet cafe for almost four years, and I don't even remember how many days he went back to school for classes. His parents are middle school teachers, so do you mean his parents work overtime at school every day and don't have time to accompany him? Therefore, it can only be said to be one of the reasons, but not all reasons.

@@Argus-ut8gi Teachers actually do a lot of overtime. You know, tests cannot be graded during class for the most parts. Same with preparing courses.

BTW, My classmate only paid 1 year's tuition in 4 years of college, and applied for an interest-free student loan for the remaining 3 years It's not that he can't afford the tuition, but that he invested all the tuition money he brought from home into the game.

​@@wai828how did you make that argus as link?

Similar circumstances here. Just because someone is in front of a screen doesn't mean they are wasting time. If authorities put this much effort into making cities better places to live and people less miserable maybe they won't try to escape reality in their spare time.

I mean 18+ is reasonable but a limit is dumb. Everybody should spend their money tas they want

I understand that, but if we are allowing gambling and addiction, then we need to help people as most people don't know what they are doing. The limit would be per game, I don't think there is a problem with that unless you are a whale who spends 1k or more per month @@prod999solo

Gambling is a disease. That should be elimanated

​@@prod999solowell oh god... Some pepole just cant stop spending so i suport spending limit and age restiction but not playtime restiction

@@furdiburd So do we limit everything that can be seen as addictive then? Gonna limit how many beers someone can buy in a day or how many times someone can have sex?

For me I'd play a lot of games as a kid, but I also played outside a lot and I liked going on walks. It's only now that I'm physically disabled that I have days where I'll spend a majority of it playing games.

No but its the first step. Uninstall the games, address the issue.

​@@JLydeckaThe first step is addressing the issue. If you push them into other coping mechanisms they could be worse.

Coping mechanisms don’t solve problems. To solve problems you need to be sober and have a healthy mind. Addiction is a problem in itself. Just because addicts have other life problems doesn’t mean that they shouldn’t start by curing their addiction. They don’t have to solve all their other life problems before tackling addiction. That would be a dangerous mistake because their addiction would hinder their ability to solve their underlying problems.

@@bjorkzhukov3638 You're assuming that the problems that lead people to becoming addicts are individual problems that have to be solved by the individuals, instead of social issues that can only be tackled on a societal level. And we're talking about minors here. Literal kids. They don't have the maturity of life experience necessary to "solve their own problems".

Over the years, my screen time increased till it stabilized at a value. My productivity went up & down till it stabilized at a value. I don't feel that the two of them influenced each-other much. To me, screentime is an important method of stress-relief but before i had gadgets, i used to drown myself in books & magazines for stress-relief, so my lifestyle hasn't changed much over the years.

Except it isn't... It's addictive. For some, yes it's an escape. For others, there is a trap effect (it's like cigarettes. You take a few puffs every so often.. suddenly, you start craving it)

"Just a coping mechanism" is too weak of an argument. We are talking about a country with 1.4 billion population that's on a decline. Gaming addiction is a real societal problem, especially on developing youth. And you can't help but be concerned of the future of the society where the majority is not even part of a working class, because if that happen you know that the society is about to decline. The approach isn't a total ban, but a curfew in gaming for youth. Digitization is a huge part of China's modern society, so the ban of mobile devices is a no-no. Instead, they give them a mandate that they're only allowed to play for a certain number of hours. As a person who's been addicted to games a lot of times in the past, you know that "that itch" won't go away unless you keep on playing to the point that you don't know when to stop. I've been through that and it affected me negatively in my studies during college days, delaying my future career over 2 years. If their youth were to develop a good self control early on in their life, don't you think it's a huge win for the society? And I think this isn't a "me" problem, because the collective "me" the size of China's youth is a serious matter.

Pretty much this if you become addicted to something you have some underlying problem. The other question with addiction is always are they harmful, do they disturb a healthy life style. And the other thing a lot of people dont understand addicted means the person cant do without that practical activity. Somebody who read books 4 hours a day can be addicted to it but its not necessary harmful.

That's the ideal move for a kid: to find competent help and guidance away from the parents.

Addiction to anything is actually a thing. So while it's true that there are more avenues now other than video games that can caught one's attention and be addicted to it, isn't it a good thing that during the time when the youth were playing under curfew helped them develop self restrain? I don't mind that the government think that video games are "evil", given that they have bad history with addiction. In fact, they're sidestepping on that and they allowed video games only with strict control, especially to youth.

All industrializing nations have child labor at some point. The west did the same. We just got done with it sooner. That’s the cost of moving from an agricultural, to an industrial society

They don't. The restrictions are only implemented in recent games or active games. They're all free always-online or subscription based games, so it's hard to pirate them. Like how all the kids these days play Fortnite, kids there want to play the new popular thing. So even if they have tons of options in pirated games and offline games, they want to play the shiny popular game.

Not really a “dopamine dependance” but you’re right about the addiction being shifted to something else-mainly due to stressors and boredom.

Most definitely did for me lol...

other addictions is not as bad as useless games, this is like opium.

Chinese kids are now addicted to tik tok etc as they don't have limits for now

Agree with you, I dont mind and even hope Chinese can develop our own gaming industry and no need to aways look at the western and Japanese games. Same thing like our own film industry, use to be dominated by Hollywood. Nowdays, most Chinese can look at our own movies proudly. As long as gaming is restricted to adults and not children, I think this is fine.

Multiplayer gaming, especially mmos, gachas, and whatever mtx thing is cancer, predatory, and should be eradicated. On the other hand, single player gaming industry in China and especially indies is healthy and should not be touched.

I miss the days in the early 2000s when all the kids in the neighborhood would have GBAs and have massive link parties in the park. Beijing was a gaming paradise and it felt healthy. We'd be physically interacting and would play other games besides videogames like football, rollerskating, and biking.

When it comes to cultural exports china is severely lacking. Japan has Anime and Korea has massively popular kpop and i thought gaming would become very influenced by china and chinese games. Unfortunately because the goverment attacks the developers and industry itself by limiting game releases it harms the cultural exports more than the game addicts its supposed to punish.

@@illliiiiillliii6265 So they're doing everyone a favor unlike Japan who export those games and animes to ensure that the weeb losers remain as such 😂

Oh for sure it’s everywhere. Even on youtube. Everything is designed like this because of greed.

​@@iAmNothingness also because of enormous competition. If a company/business wants to survive, they often just MUST exploit some psychological weaknesses we humans have, to attract customers, and make them spend time in their games/consume whatever other kind of media they specialize in producing, and do their best to make people spend at least some money over that time. Free-to-play games, usually of competitive genre, with elements of grind, are the most addictive and destructive on average, as far as I can see. And most profitable. Actual engaging, relaxng, or somewhat educating interactive art, that games can easily be, are not any easier, and often harder to produce; they attract less funding since it's known that they are less profitable and investors (whoever they can be) would be better off investing in some more exploitative genres. They are harder to be kept "alive" for years or decades, like competitive games can be, - it takes more creativity, development resources and funds to keep delivering sequels of high quality that people will accept. While competitive or grindy service games don't even actually need any coherent and engaging plot, complex story, universe, whatever. It can be a nice bonus for fans but it's not required. Professional tugging on the consumers' psychological weaknesses is required, and maybe some decent, catchy, not off-putting visuals, and that's all. Oh, and also lots of clever advertisement, to stand out of hundreds, or now thousands of competitors who want to do the same. A huge part of why games are largely like that, is also the fact that people often don't have much time to thoroughly engage in some artistic game world, which is usually required to actually enjoy them. While competitive/addictive free-to-play games know this fact and cleverly alow you to play short matches, lasting from ~15 to ~60 minutes on average. Engagement is not really needed, you don't need to learn much at first, only the basic game mechanics, which are made as simple as possible for newbies, while usually having deeper layers that unfold as the player keeps exploring it, to keep them unsatisfied, feeling inferoior to other players, wanting to catch up, collect more things, be more universal and mighty, or whatever else. And also, free-to-play games are just... free. The way they are built, their business model, just allows that. That's basically cheating in a way. Why would one pay for something that they can't be sure they will like and accept the quality of, when there are so many free products to try "without" consequences of potentially wasting money on? That's a trick too, though, because free-to-play games generate much more income for developers on average, thanks for unfortunate souls that got hooked on it and keep spending money on, usually just to try to scratch the itch of standing out, being more powerful than other players, or whatever else they eventually pay and keep paying for. While others, who don't pay (there are lots of such people usually, the majority of players), have to experience slower progress compared to those who pay, see their characters in default, "boring" appearance, not standing out, and are just reminded constantly that they are inferior to those who pay, in little but persistent and sometimes mildly annoying ways. Still many do not pay, either due to total lack of money, due to not accepting to "pay for games", some principles, or whatever else, and I think it can hurt their self esteem and confidence in a way. For me it did for sure. I am generalizing and simplifying, of course. The problem is a huge and complicated one. To be honest, I think it all boils down to how the imperfections of how the human mind, society and capitalism, and maybe even this world, work; due to huge and growing competition, and due to games being made firstly as a business, and not as art. Although, art can be somewhat addictive too, any fiction can be. Especially to people who are having problems in life, feeling insecure or unfulfilled, and don't know how to change that.

Oh, and I must add to my previous message. The gaming market, as well as movies and especially books I think, is very oversatieted. I mean, there are so many games to try, accumulated over the previous few decades (mostly the last ~15 years or so). The audience, its time and money, are dilluted over this enormous legacy. There are lots of older games that still have some or a lot of people online (or just playing them, in case of single player projects), who are not really willing to leave and switch to something new. Sure, most games of the past don't have as good graphics as the new ones. But gameplay-wise many of them are hard to surpass, with all the modern huge expectations. New developers come into the industry, either for passion or for money, and have to find ways to compete with all of this legacy, try to catch people's attention, pull them out of the comfortable games they got accustomed to and keep playing for years, and make them try their projects, somehow. Combine it with the falling fertility rates, less young players to become a potential audience, in countries where most gamers are, and the progress, "refreshment" becomes even harder, harder to compete with the legacy and create new and meaningful projects. I hope you get what I mean. Also add mods, which add lots of play hours for people to keep enjoying older games, taking their time, attention, but usually not giving the mod developers any money for their skills and work, hence not funding the usually passionate and artistic developers. Add piracy, which makes competition for game developers even harder if significantly widespread. Pressuring the prices of paid projects (not free-to-play, those actually are not affected by piracy at all in most cases, due to how they are meant to play) to lower even more, as people can literally get the product for free, and takes away the attention, play time and potential money with those people that pirated it. They spend time there, for free, not funding any further development, not trying other products they could have, it's basically lost to the economy. Again, I most likely expressed my thoughts a bit vaguely here, I just need to sleep now ;/ I think the world, the society works like that, in a way. Accumulating complexity, also mistakes and disagreements, slacking and lots of work spent inefficiently, until it all becomes too heavy to hold onto, unsolvable without drastic measures which usually are not taken even if understood, and slow or fast degradation begins, while the society is squeezed more and more dry (often voluntarily, due to the ongoing processes that people don't even think about or notice, not just due to some evil capitalists or government) to try and keep their level of life as it was, without doing the much needed changes, reforms, without slowing down and "taking a deep breath" to think about it all.

Exactly. I completely agree with you.

Offline games are not regulated lol. So why would they need to report? You see all those made in China games on Steam, those don't report to the government, completely unregulated. Actually all these "war against gaming" and regulation is very targeted and specifically "live service/multiplayer/online" games... because only those cause massive problems and not single player games.

The virtual world is "better", because it's designed to be that way. To make it so pleasurable to the senses, that you keep coming back to it until you're addicted.

The but that digital world is just based off of the real world. There’s beauties and horrors in the real and digital worlds.

I mean you don't game just to suffer

But too much is not good bc electricity bills could Skyrocket

The state is trying to parent for the parents.

here in my country I go to school from 8:10 am to 3 pm from monday to friday, and I don't have to go to english lessons (I did the final english exam in my country and passed so I don't have to go) so now I have like 30 hrs of classes and maybe 10 hrs of homework every week

Bro just say you hate democracy

@@EggEnjoyer in a democracy the government would be voted out and no one would have implemented any policy that people actually wanted

​@@EggEnjoyer a gang rape is a democratic act. Democracy is good, and I don't think there is really a better system, but it is flawed and can be manipulated by ignorance and propaganda.

Says a 15 year old

Who asked?

​@@crowxar😂 I and well over 100 others! If it ain't for you, keep it moving!

@@crowxar my country need to remove video games becase it made all of kids animal noise brain thots just like my school

-0:01 China hates Japan therefore vidya bad

@@ihateentertainment or why not resolve the underlying reasons why these kids become addicted to games? or perhaps youre upset because you cant play those games?

It already mentioned going after practices such as the loot boxes. Also this is only restriction for minors, supported by parents. Their actual consumers - the adult gamers - are not affected at all!

@@Ash-vv8zg Many people don't understand that the Chinese government's legislation to limit the gaming time of minors is essentially transferring the control over children's gaming time to their parents. If some parents are willing to allow their children to spend more time playing games, the children can easily do so using their parents' accounts.

Aren't you under risk writing this comment?

@@gouthamanushprobably not

@@gouthamanush how so?

@@gouthamanushIt's China not North Korea lol

​@@gouthamanushlol people have a clown view of China by brainwashing of the MSM

@@user-yu9ih6bq5m an average Chinese kid is still smarter than the smartest adult in your country tho, why waste there potential in playing video games, I'm sure those kids will appreciate the rules when they grow up and become productive in actual skills not video game

They do... alternative stuff aplenty wherever you go

I think your most simple point is probably the most perceptive one. I think we can all agree that parks and teams sports are better than video games socially and physically. In a civilised world, offering alternatives is far more proper than banning I think

​@@nedks11they are not banning tho, they are limiting for a certain age

Apparenlty they mostly switched to Just spending a lot of time on tiktok instead 😅😅

@@97CorviChinese TikTok is way different from western TikTok. I mean it’s still bad to scroll on that all day. But the content shown isn’t nearly as terrible as western TikTok

Gaming for me has definitely was a way to escape sadness and depression and did used to play a lot. Most people would tell me I am addicted. But, I was not. When I needed to quit gaming like studying for exams and doing chores I could easily do it. So, to other it looked like addiction but I never was. It was just a way for me to escape from my negative thoughts. China is the worst place to be as a kid. Gosh! I would rebel. But, I were born chinese, I would think that is the norm where you goto school 6am to 9am.. So, not knowing what freedom you dont have, maybe its hard to rebel.

me too. I've found other hobbies from gaming but even those don't fulfill me anymore. I guess it's life

Based and Labourpilled

Agree with you, remember how angry western media was when Diablo Immortal wasnt in China yet, they made up stories like it was banned there with so much dirty politics. Personally believe that game should be banned.

Okay but he also mentioned that China has cracked down on excessive education so clearly they're aware of the problem and are actively working to fix it.

East Asia also has much more competent political leaders than the west because of their emphasis on education and meritocracy

@@JS-ih7lu Education and merit only gets you so far. Your leaders also need to not want to only think of themselves above all else. Which is hard when a thing called "power corrupts is a thing".

They will need to fix the 996 work culture first. Let parents be parents and not just workers who happen to have offspring. But now China is in a siege mentality what with the trade war that is going on and its international standing being (not being completely undeserved) under attack. It's anyone's guess if they are willing to look to other countries for solutions or if they are willing to loosen up to realise better long term outcomes. Already a cult of personality is forming around Xi Jinping (if the term Xi Jinping thought doesn't send chills down your spine, I honestly don't know what will) they might already be driving off a cliff with all the social, demographic, and economic problems looming.

Yeah but they can be used as a coping mechanism.

Video games symbolizing dignity, honor and nobility. They stimulating brain activity. Gamers are smarter than the average person.

Both positively and negatively, for example some games may teach you good stuff while some other is literal Micro-transaction topia

It's the same in China. Dont know why every time video about life in China from non Chinese view, its always how Chinese life is so hard and everything is better in the west lol. Actually there are many activities that are healthy and beneficial here, but I dont believe gaming is healthy for children. Ever.

I think in China the young and elders have more things to do and places to go than in those so called developed countries. Have you seen their cities? Their cities are planned for people, lots of parks, lots of beauty, things to see and places to go. In such a beautiful place like China there's no reason to be looking at a screen all the time

I think the bigger issue is the perception by the government that the citizenry lack any sort of agency, and unfortunately the citizenry also accept that. I don't want to riff too much on the personal responsibility side because when taken to the extreme it allows for massive corporate abuse, but a balance must be made. People aren't chess pieces you can move or eliminate any time you like.

@@Moonstone-Reduxperfectly said

It definitely went wrong in the US. Most of gen z are now woke id*ots, acts like npcs and can't even answer simple math or general knowledge questions.

@@mao_tse_tung1921 For every complex problem in this world, there is a simple and succinct solution that is often wrong. Game companies are often one step ahead of your government officials when it comes to understanding why people want to play games and what pushed them over the edge to addiction. It is down to parents to understand their children and cultivate a healthy relationship with gaming in a way that fits their children better. We cannot attribute gaming addiction to some nebulous concept of the mysterious Chinese or Western (in itself a misnomer) soul and really understand this problem through proper observation and psychological studies. A healthy human mind doesn't wake up one day and go "today I will get addicted to something". People get addicted because there was some pleasure in their life that they could not get outside of the addictive substance. Hold corporations accountable, but understand that they may not be the whole problem.

Many people don't understand that the Chinese government's legislation to limit the gaming time of minors is essentially transferring the control over children's gaming time to their parents. If some parents are willing to allow their children to spend more time playing games, the children can easily do so using their parents' accounts.

@@cchen6522 I agree with you. At the end of the day, the children that end up playing video games instead of studying will find out the error of their ways when they are sweeping a street for a living.

Are you some like of dopamine burnout? The real world offers long form hobbies which actually release serotonin and satiate you in a way that dopamine can’t.

@@EggEnjoyer Real world also comes with cortisol that burns through all the serotonin before it could even make any impact. I don't remember the last time I actually enjoyed doing any activities.

The one 'analog' activity that comes really close (or at least for me) is reading fiction story books and Disney Comics books! I for example often find the world of DuckBurg far more interesting than real life nad wish it didn't just exist as drawings or animations!

@pascal9924 That was me pretty much all my life. I grew up on fairy tales and science fiction. If I wasn't reading them, I was making them up. Always thought that real life was extremely limited.

When I stopped gaming, I filled my boredom by becoming interested in electric cars, climate change, auto industry, business, and zoology.

best comment so far. you hit the nail my friend