How Cinar Became Corrupted. (Rise And Fall)

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Ай бұрын

The people who made Arthur thought they were gangstas. Should have just stuck to making cartoons for kids.
#arthur #cookiejar #cinar #caillou #dhx #wildbrain #hbomax
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@Osarogie112258 Ай бұрын

DiC: Most diabolical animation company of all time. Cinar: Hold my sugar cane rum from Barbados.

@bubbacoltAlsoknownasColtenPlay Ай бұрын

Yes, GET THE PIN

@walpoleandworcester Ай бұрын

I remember Cinar being notorious for fraud besides producing Arthur and rebranding as Cookie Jar. They seemed like the Enron of children’s entertainment.

@Dave102693 Ай бұрын

And then getting bought by WildBrain lol

@the_italian_boi Ай бұрын

What's Enron?

@Channeleven2345789 Ай бұрын

Elon Musk company

@the_italian_boi Ай бұрын

@@Channeleven2345789 Oh, alright, thanks for the information, have a nice day.

@Sweetnovelle Ай бұрын

@@Dave102693 wildbrian owns everything 🤦‍♂️

@notthegreatestdetective Ай бұрын

why do companies in charge of children's and teen's programming have such dark backrounds/histories? its nuts, but i guess that's corruption for you, anyway another great video as always

@Ihartwalrusguy Ай бұрын

Fun fact: Contar once dubbed the original 1979 version of Doraemon called “The Adventures of Albert and Sidney”, but it only aired in Barbados.

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

What a messed up company, now I guess it did screw over Shin Ei, but only for a brief time. Do keep in mind that the actual first Doraemon anime, based on the eponymous manga, was released in 1973 and wasn’t that popular with children, which meant that the 1979 version was a longer running continuity reboot of it.

@AddaeAkono Ай бұрын

I've heard of Cinar, but didn't know they were behind the Arthur because I though it was just a PBS show. Fun Fact: The OP for Arthur was done by Ziggy Marley and The Melody Makers.

@loser2466 Ай бұрын

Arthur never outsourced its animation to North Korea if not South Korea, Seasons 1-11 were animated at AKOM

@samuelathanassiou Ай бұрын

Yes, excatly! Arthur's first 11 seasons were animated in SOUTH (not North!!) Korea by AKOM, before Series 12 to 15 were done in Hong Kong, and lastly, the reminder of the show was done in Flash (16-19) and Toon Boom (20-25) respectively.

@loser2466 Ай бұрын

@@samuelathanassiou Correct

@2acidic4u Ай бұрын

He probably just misspoke

@loser2466 Ай бұрын

@@2acidic4u Yeah I know

@paulo.motivacao5851 Ай бұрын

@@samuelathanassiou it's produced actually, since it's listed on the arthur wiki as production companies

@domlee8032 Ай бұрын

Hey everyone more behinds the scenes in my interview with Arthur director, Greg Bailey coming soon. We touch a little bit about his side of the CiNAR scandal. Almost most of this is wrong.

@CarsonsPlushiePalooza Ай бұрын

Random fact about cinar: on the original dvd release of Cailou’s holiday movie, there was a creepy cinar bumper at the end with the only audio being a Woosh at the beginning and cailou laughing around a second in.

@Khino.978 Ай бұрын

Do you have an upload? I can't find info about it

@CarsonsPlushiePalooza Ай бұрын

@@Khino.978 search “Cailou’s holiday movie end credits (Sony wonder version)”

@daktheavking9357 Ай бұрын

Bro i absolutely love the Ed Edd N Eddy sound effects sprinkled in. Ive been binging this channel,this is the exact deep cut stuff i look for

@nicostud916 Ай бұрын

1:05 not to be that guy, BUT... 1.Ultraseven is a Japanese Tokusatsu (live action) show, not an anime 2. The show originally ran from 1967 till 1968, so it wasn't entirely a co production since the show was made decades before this dub aired in the mid 80s 3. They didn't even air all 49 episodes since they lost the transfers for episodes 3, 5, 6, and 7 respectively

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Grrr come on man🤣 it's fine I don't mind the audience adds notes in anyway. During my notes on this it was very limited.

@X_Blake Ай бұрын

Bruh this is worse than what Gainax went through. I don't feel bad for them in the slightest. Just the people who work under them

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Nobody with a brain should feel bad for Cinar.

@X_Blake Ай бұрын

@@StagehandMotel6 No

@otaking3582 Ай бұрын

I mostly feel bad because it makes the search for Albert and Sidney that much harder.

@HuskyDog88 Ай бұрын

@@StagehandMotel6 Cinar didn't produce Sagwa. CineGroupe did, even though some of the same people who worked on Arthur worked on this show.

@celinerobichaud1986 Ай бұрын

I mostly remember the Cinar legal problems when a dude claimed that they’ve stolen his idea for the Robison Crusoe cartoon series :/

@kimorox813 Ай бұрын

He actually did something original but it looked similar to Robinson Crusoe, so Cinar stole his idea and just turned it into Robinson Crusoe

@LARDLOGO 4 күн бұрын

Claude Robinson made a cartoon called "The Adventures of Robinson Curiosity" and pitched it to CiNAR in 1986. CiNAR turned it down only to plagiarize it as "Robinson Sucroe" in 1995.

@BMCBroManClash Ай бұрын

Thanks for the history lesson, Red. Corporate greed will eventually catch up and bite those who endorse it in the rear ends.

@CapriAxell Ай бұрын

8:53 Arthur ended 2 years ago though

@bullmonty764 Ай бұрын

Well, there are reruns. That's likely what he meant

@bubbacoltAlsoknownasColtenPlay Ай бұрын

Me: haven’t seen a pbs related company in years. Them: posts My brain: WATCH THIS

@tomatolove1171 Ай бұрын

I'm so conditioned that when you hit act 4 with the cookie jar logo I thought my programming was over 🤷🏽‍♀️

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Yeah I think a lot of people are conditioned to see wns credit logos as the end of the show

@Undrave Ай бұрын

The sad part is that tons of the Cinar shows are basically impossible to find anywhere anymore. The trio of Robinson Sucroe, Albert the Fifth Musketeer and Patrol 03 were fantastic shows... and I'd LOVE to see C.L.Y.D.E. again. And Smoggies were cool too!

@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 Ай бұрын

3:30 ok that’s just visually pleasing

@MrJWTH Ай бұрын

Ronan Warriors was also an anime originally named Legendary Armor Samurai Troopers.

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

Sunrise of Gundam fame made the samurai troopers anime, but its dub was made by Cinar. Hoo boy, Cinar also screwed over another anime named Koala Kocky, the final Topcraft anime show.

@MrJWTH Ай бұрын

@@SlapstickGenius23 I don’t remember too much about the show, so how exactly did Cinar screw it?

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

@@MrJWTH Koala Kocky was localised so much that it became Adventures of the Little Koala in Canada instead, without Topcraft’s permission. That must’ve led to a quiet but long running lawsuit where no one fully wins.

@MrJWTH Ай бұрын

@@SlapstickGenius23 Interesting, was there a similar issue with Ronan Warriors?

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

@@MrJWTH Thankfully, at least Ronin warriors (aka samurai troopers) isn’t as heavily screwed over for a longer time, due to having dvd and blu ray releases by both Sunrise and Discotek. Also, there weren’t any lawsuits between Sunrise and Cinar when Samurai Troopers came to Canada and got localised by the Montreal company as Ronin Warriors.

@JAM35_ Ай бұрын

2:43 they should have used North Korean kids

@thecaledoniansleeper2648 Ай бұрын

Cinar also produced the new Wombles series and the Adventures of Paddington Bear in 1997, both based on FilmFair’s popular British IPs from the 70’s.

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

Thank goodness, the amazing wombles have truly escaped the madness of Cinar and are British owned once again. Hoo boy, British Gen Xers are still pleased that the wombles are still with them and not Cinar.

@thecaledoniansleeper2648 Ай бұрын

@@SlapstickGenius23And the fact that the new Wombles series from the 90’s had Canadian voice actors putting on accents for the characters. Some of them just sound so fake.

@theblubus Ай бұрын

Man...... Such hard work. Love these videos. I'm also going to apologize to you for having to say "Cookie Jar, Dic, Kids Co, Strawberry Shortcake, Care Bears, Sushi pack" all in about 40 seconds lolol I appreciate your sacrifice

@PrideEepy64 Ай бұрын

I’m glad you have an entire channel dedicated to companies of there famous logos dying or going down I missed all of them, I’m just glad they are finally getting explained out keep up the good work

@nicolesherman8974 Ай бұрын

Perfect timing to watch after getting off work 👌🏾.

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Enjoy the commute

@JohnGambleOfficialYouTube7247 Ай бұрын

Can You Do HiT Entertainment?

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

its on the list.

@bubbacoltAlsoknownasColtenPlay Ай бұрын

jim henson company? idk if they fell but I thought about them.

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Yup thats on the list too.

@RandomTrinidadian Ай бұрын

And just like that, Boom... Childhood ruined

@otaking3582 Ай бұрын

Ronan Warriors and Adventures of the Little Koala are both anime. Ultraseven is a tokusatsu (live action show in the same genre as Power Rangers and Godzilla).

@lPsychoMax Ай бұрын

Wondered why it looked like Ultraman, it IS ultraman!

@TajmirTheRandomFan Ай бұрын

Any show that came out of Cinar aired on pbs for its children’s programming, Nickelodeon, etc.

@raquelh99 Ай бұрын

HBO?

@wturner777 Ай бұрын

@@raquelh99 The Little Lulu Show

@raquelh99 Ай бұрын

@@wturner777 And Paddington Bear

@Venom3254 Ай бұрын

I love the usage of the sound effects you include, especially the Ed Edd and Eddy ones

@GIJOEFAN-ys8gp Ай бұрын

1:29 Underrated gem.

@taylorthenatural5509 Ай бұрын

I learn something everytime I watch Red's videos. Scandals man, gotta love em.😂

@YakkoWarnerTower Ай бұрын

CINAR was the good old folks for Arthur and the Busy World of Richard Scarry, lol.

@raquelh99 Ай бұрын

Both animated shows are based on the books and centered on anthro characters.

@SUPASLY75 Ай бұрын

I vaguely remember that fiasco

@benjackson7872 Ай бұрын

I notice you said North Korea instead of South. Otherwise, solid video as usual.

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

I know I know. My bad.

@morbidsearch Ай бұрын

Also the first Arthur book came out in 1976. It was the TV series that started in 1994.

@Black_Revue 15 күн бұрын

Mondo TV did work with North Korea though...

@bebespeaks7827 15 күн бұрын

@@morbidsearch production and creation of Arthur BEGAN IN 1994, while the show first aired in 1998.

@SynchroMax Ай бұрын

0:52 Wizard of Oz and Little Koala had their dubs produced by Cinar, not the shows themselves. Ronin Warriors was dubbed by Graz Entertainment in 1995, Cinar was just the distributor. 2:04 The first Arthur book released in 1976, not 1994.

@SCMediaWorks Ай бұрын

This is very good and well researched.

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

I remember you. You were the first one to do the DIC Video.

@nyanpirethecat2257 Ай бұрын

Correction about Arthur at the 2:09 mark. Arthur begun as a children's book series in 1976.

@imrustyokay Ай бұрын

2:36 Hey, there's a book related to animation work done in North Korea. It's a graphic novel by Guy Delise called Pyongyang: A Journey in North Korea.

@RichBoi217 Ай бұрын

CINAR got a WILD HISTORY 😭😭😭😭 Also, instantly seeing Arthur made me have flashbacks of childhood. TOP TIER show 🔥 Enjoyed the video 🤟🏾

@JohnGambleOfficialYouTube7247 Ай бұрын

The Wiggles are Spotted in KidsCo

@jamalvargas6146 Ай бұрын

Jesus Saban Entertainment Didn't Have It this bad a they got boughtout by Disney tragic....

@raquelh99 Ай бұрын

Acquired 23 years ago?

@ottagol1985 Ай бұрын

I know that one of the voice actors, Dean Hagopian, isn't a fan of Cinar.

@michaelgoldberg8038 Ай бұрын

Great video! I honestly do not think Sagwa was from Cinar, I believe they were from Cinegroupe and Sesame workshop, but aside from that this was a great video analyzing everything in the whole process plus great pictures, I honestly couldnt find pictures of the corporate office anywhere. It's such a shame that this great company had to die out to greed..

@kootunesscrewy Ай бұрын

Man, we need a video about what happened to Cinegroupe.

@EastBaltimorejohn Ай бұрын

Big shoutout to your channel for all this content and information. Man I always wondered what happened to all these companies 😅😳 I never knew they were getting to so much trouble I thought these companies just faded away naturally 😂😂

@wizardoferror9942 Ай бұрын

Man, 2004 was just a *HORRIBLE* year for Montreal, what with Cinar being exposed for being fraudulent, and the Expos moving to Washington DC.

@ryanwilkins2233 Ай бұрын

Brown box productions would make a good video.

@warrenbradford2597 Ай бұрын

It's weird how a company created so many good shows also create schemes that screw their employees and consumers over. Greed became their undoing and have paying prices instead of bills.

@thesudriana016 Ай бұрын

And we all thought Mattel and other corporate mandate companies are bad, but Cinar is a whole different level isn't it?

@northernplacecorporation 22 күн бұрын

You do realize that CinéGroupe was the ACTUAL PRODUCTION COMPANY behind "Sagwa, the Chinese Siamese Cat", which, in turn, was a co-production between BOTH THEM, and the producers of Sesame Street, the Sesame Workshop, right?

@therealcushandchefmonkeyshow Ай бұрын

Great video well, worth the wait. Finally, people will know the dark truth behind cinar since it wasn’t very well known. But when correction sorry to be that person but sagwa was made by cinegroup not cinar but that’s an easy mistake to make both our our Quebec base companies who make very similar shows and share a lot of voice actors

@TeleTails Ай бұрын

Maybe next you could do Media DHX/WildBrain?

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Its in the que.

@TeleTails Ай бұрын

@@StagehandMotel6k

@archibaldcabebe6062 Ай бұрын

Now that's a real life horror story compared to Are You Afraid of the Dark.

@bbs976 28 күн бұрын

On a side note, does anyone happen to have lost episodes of the CINAR-produced show “The Babaloos”? There were over 100 episodes, but few are on KZfaq. That show, along with Arthur and others, brought a smile to my face😊

@supersonicbro Ай бұрын

Wow, I never read this logo in my head before. The last time I saw it I was too young to know how to read and I just remember how the logo looked... That was a really weird feeling.

@emberjean4230 Ай бұрын

So they were basically like the Gainax of Canada....

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

Unfortunately yes. Gainax is the most corrupt company that the anime industry has ever had, and now it’s pretty much defunct because of how terrible its mismanagement was.

@NathanSimpsonnathanisbeast 9 күн бұрын

for me, the three CiNAR shows I remember watching were Arthur, Potatoes & Dragons and Simon in the Land of Chalk Drawings (2002)

@Y2Kikii Ай бұрын

Damn I didn't realize the company that distributed/created so many of my favourite childhood shows was so shaddy!

@themoley91 Ай бұрын

Lmao I literally wrote an essay about this in university 13 years ago, funny to see it as a video

@Gittykitty Ай бұрын

Ciluou was a plauge upon humanity.

@princesspikachu3915 Ай бұрын

Is that Leo/Kimba in your pfp?

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

What about the awesome David picture book character? He’s Meaner than wimpy Canuck Caillou and much more chaotic.

@KaminoKatie Ай бұрын

The Quebecers are not okay

@bryedtan Ай бұрын

I am shocked although I live in Southeast Asia in the Philippines. I saw many of these shows Madeline, Arthur, Little Lulu, and World of Richard Scary. I would recommend those shows to friends who had kids and they loved it cause they were considered clean and many did encourage children to read. It is just sad and shocking on the corruption and credit taking behind the scenes.

@muppetsretrofan8873 25 күн бұрын

Learning about Cinar really upset me, given they made A LOT of my childhood shows [notably Arthur and Zoboomafoo]. I feel bad for all the people they scammed. And now the Cookie Jar name is tainted for me. I wonder if they scammed PBS? That would play a role in PBS Kids' downfall if true. On a different note, I really hope you'll cover Will Vinton Studios, a rising company that had a really unfair ending. They made The California Raisins, Domino's Pizza's The Noid, original characters like Rex, Herb, and the infamous Wilshire Pig, and adaptions of stories such as The Little Prince and the Adventures Of Mark Twain movie. Will and his team [including Craig Bartlett, who later left to create Hey Arnold] were on the road to sucess, but several mishaps [including the aforementioned Wilshire] caused the studio to struggle during the 90s. However, they also created the M&Ms spokescandies and provided the animation for The PJs by Eddie Murphy during this time. Phil Knight [founder of NIKE] bought stock in the company, had his son Travis Knight work there, and then eventually bought Will's entire studio out, FIRED WILL FROM HIS OWN COMPANY, and Travis took over. The result is Laika Studios. I used to like Laika, but after finding out what happened to Will Vinton, my opinion on the studio, and the Knights [albeit I already disliked Phil knowing some shady stuff NIKE did] soured. Will deserved better. The documentary Claydream goes into detail, and I highly recommend checking it out. Sadly, not many people talk about Will Vinton.

@BlazeHeartPanther Ай бұрын

I dont think Cinar worked on Sagwa at all. I'm pretty sure it was CinéGroupe and Sesame Workshop.

@AnthonyChobotdoespopcult-jz7jr Ай бұрын

Prefect video

@bennygodwin2015 Ай бұрын

Lol you should see my kids bar, lol.

@user-zm2lm4wh6l Ай бұрын

lol pretty sure it was south korea and not north korea 2:37 Wonder how the government would even let them get voice actors from there

@Razer3073 Ай бұрын

you forgot it becoming its current form wildbrain

@blueberrypitbull87 Ай бұрын

Are you still going to make that video on Funimation and roast them for what they did to Vic Mignogna? What they did to that man is terrible.

@KasumiKenshirou Ай бұрын

I just saw The Garfield Movie on Sunday. The main antagonist is a fat female cat that is obsessed with getting revenge on Garfield's father, Vic. At one point she has a board outlining her whole plan, where she has written "GET VIC". It's probably all just a coincidence, but it was funny how similar it was, with "GET VIC" being similar to the "KickVic" hashtag those awful people used.

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

Yes in due time people want PBS Kids so that's what's on the list

@blueberrypitbull87 Ай бұрын

@@StagehandMotel6 Good to know. Jamie Marchi and Monica Rial are still bragging about what they did and giggle and laugh about it on Twitter every chance they get.

@SlapstickGenius23 Ай бұрын

@@blueberrypitbull87 Even in its later years, before it got acquired by crappy CrunchyRoll, Funimation suffered from both a rather bad case of actor favouritism and a messed up work culture on par with that of Gainax.

@blueberrypitbull87 Ай бұрын

⁠@@SlapstickGenius23What did Gainax do?

@iO-Sci Ай бұрын

The Canadian companies CINAR and DIC were serene at times I think b/c of the start-up logos and icons. 캐나다 회사인 CINAR와 DIC는 스타트업 로고와 아이콘의 b/c 시점에서 평온했습니다.

@sheismymom Ай бұрын

lol wow Cinar all those gems and you dirty

@Doom-i7y Ай бұрын

Treehouse logo

@JCtechwizard 24 күн бұрын

5:35 "paid out in retribution" lol I think you meant restitution

@kootunesscrewy Ай бұрын

Wait. Cinar was terrible? That makes me prefer Cookie Jar more.

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

They were one in the same.

@Dave102693 Ай бұрын

@@StagehandMotel6and they became Nivara/Media DHX/WildBrain

@saltutter3160 Ай бұрын

CINAR (1985-2003)

@PPGyesLoudHouseNo Ай бұрын

Can You Do HiT Entertainment Next

@thefunnychiptuneman Ай бұрын

your telling me theres a dub of ultraseven? i though only tiga got that zagorudan sould review it

@NintendoSegaGuys Ай бұрын

This was crazier than that McDonald's Monopoly money laundering scheme.

@usefulaccount1835 Ай бұрын

Can you do a video on Spumco next?

@kootunesscrewy Ай бұрын

Let's hope it isn't just about John K. this time.

@BienSwinginbase Ай бұрын

That was from Arthur bossman? I didn't know the people who make Arthur are horrible and mala bossman. I remember DIC too lol.

@MsDisneylandlover Ай бұрын

Love Arthur

@MsDisneylandlover Ай бұрын

Love are you afraid of the dark

@desenhosanimados2010 Ай бұрын

can you do a history on Nelvana?

@StagehandMotel6 Ай бұрын

It's on the list

@desenhosanimados2010 Ай бұрын

@@StagehandMotel6add Max & Ruby too on the Nelvana video too?

@chebbytv Ай бұрын

It’s named after plane tree in Turkish xD

@richardadamson1438 Ай бұрын

I know a bit of the history behind this, but I never knew what happened behind the scenes. Wow, that's a lot to process. To misquote the youtuber, Ya'all made arthur and Zagwa.

@evancredeur7498 Ай бұрын

Cinar has nothing to do with Little Lulu.

@tyronemito Ай бұрын

👍

@sominboy2757 Ай бұрын

2:37 come again?

@saulgzazueta Ай бұрын

2:00 Arthur was published in 1976?

@mlgnoscocomelon Ай бұрын

So It Made That I Was Cookie Jar That In Made That Always From The Show

@BSReese93 Ай бұрын

Cinar? More like Sinar..

@KhalidAun1 Ай бұрын

2:36 North Korea?? I think you meant South Korea 😅

@humanoidcorn4476 Ай бұрын

Nowadays, xbox are always taking more than they can handle! Why do you think they closed down FOUR GAMING STUDIOS AT THE SAME TIME? All because of one game they should've known it wasn't finished yet, but just released it anyway! And now they're trying to find a studio that makes award winning games like Tango. What is it with companies with double standards and their stupid decisions? I've expected this from EA, but Xbox? What is this world coming to?

@MsDisneylandlover Ай бұрын

Not yall show diddy lol n I remember those cats lol #DisneyDiva