@Matt Hunkee Probably. But, his description of 2020 still fit.

Lol

No, you’re going to have to get into the Christmas 🎄 Spirit 🤣

My wife knows to not so much breath on my Martin Logan’s.

@@jrms60r...🤣

Clever...

😂

...don’t know anybody who sits only 1 meter away from his speakers. Maybe someone with speakers on his working desk but no audiophile in my book

Yes I agree I have a pair of Tannoy613s, and have the tweeters alighted with my ears and sit about 4feet way, just like they do in recording studios. Brill👍🇬🇧

@@bikemike1118 Its called near field listning. Ideal if you want to remove serious room issues that can't be solved with absorption or defusion Thx for your comment

2021 ain't much better.

Joel Owens download REW software and learn to use it .

I'm in the same situation. I could do the rule of thirds in my living room but it would be too loud for the neighbors in my apt building so my system is set up in a bedroom with no shared walls where I won't disturb anyone. I'm about 8.5 feet from each speaker and speakers same distance apart and toed in 2 inches and it sounds very good. A lot if not most people don't have the space for the rule of thirds.

Dynaudio talks about 5/8 or 8/5 to front and side walls. That in other words is 1:1.6 or what is classically known as the Golden Ratio. Its a myth. So to is the rule of thirds as Paul indirectly hints right here. So pick either as a starting point, it absolutely doesn't matter. Invest in a handheld (decent quality) SPL meter, get a BBC test tones LP or CD and do the bass crawl. Treat your room (that should actually be TUNE your room with acoustic treatments - i.e. shift the resonant frequency to somewhere less offensive. You won't entirely succeed, don't worry about it, something is better than nothing). Do the bass crawl. If you have box speakers consider adding external bracing to stiffen them up further (can look ugly). This is to improve the quality, not the quantity of bass. Understand that the peaks and troughs of the standing waves do not move with speaker placement, they are a function of the room dimensions. There will be several places in the room where the base sounds right, pick whichever is most aesthetic / convenient and make that your seating position. Now start to position the speakers for imaging and for clarity. Actually most us understand this intuitively. What I have written here can be understood by anyone with an O'level (10th grade) in physics for example. But few of us have dedicated listening rooms and even if we do we still don't have the stomach for how visually ugly it can get if we go all the way to make it sound good through acoustic treatment. In fact I'll correct my previous statement about only few of us having dedicated listening rooms. I'm going to say almost none of us has a DEDICATED listening room because that would have to have been built by the architect. Like the Sydney Opera House where the acoustic design was actually ahead of what civil engineering could achieve at the time of commissioning in 1957 or so. I read somewhere that the full potential of what Jorn Utzon had designed was only realised sometime in the 1990s. I could be misremembering, but if I'm not that's kind of amazing to think about! So anyway the rest of us, we live with a compromise. Which, IMHO is fine. When I really want good music I go to hear it live. Assuming that ever becomes possible again.

You can rip a cd to your HDD

You should always have a universal dvd player around for set up discs and test cd's. Streaming is not the end all be all.

Hopefully he'll make it available on Alexa

Don't know, cousin. Something complex beyond simple theory is likely going on in your listening room. But if that's the way it sounds better to you, that's what really matters. Trust your ears and enjoy the music.

@@stephensmith3111 That is the advice I got from a professional bass player. He told me the big bass speaker units in casinos he plays in have polarity switches and they work.

Then if you had a subwoofer in the system, change the elevation of the sub to fix a height null. Or, if it's not a subwoofer based system, then invert your left/right mains ... ie, hang them upside down in some fashion. As I recall, Dr Floyd Toole had inverted Revel Salons flanking his TV display.

Indeed, you're right. There's so much acoustic complexity to reproduction of low distortion bass in typical residential sized listening rooms. No room gain (pressure vessel gain) as you said, or support below the first resonance. The deck is stacked against us regarding playback in the lowest octaves. Myself, I have an IB sub, so I enjoy the wonderful benefits that accompany room gain (PVG). Psycho-acoustics and the equal loudness curves reveals that low distortion reproduction of a 20hz tone is a difficult task. Relative to 40 Hz@83dB, our hearing requires 100dB of 20hz to sound equally loud. No problem most enthusiasts say. The real issue is distortion products of the 20hz tone. A 40 Hz harmonic needs to be 20 dB below the 20 Hz fundamental just to sound as if it is the same level or 100% 2nd harmonic distortion... quite the task. But, Pressure Vessel Gain to the rescue! The benefits of such room gain include reinforcement of the fundamental moreso than the harmonic above it ... I'm too lazy to do the maths right now. Yes, there's nothing like Open Baffle bass reproduction. Yes, there's nothing like Infinite Baffle bass reproduction. ...and there's nothing like a nice IPA;)

I think you make better sense than Paul in this instance. 👍 I just might email you Hermann 🍻

Anytime, have done lots of international jobs already. Also with subwoofers. Have software which I have developed to get to exact alignment. Will teach you all the steps. It's not difficult. 😉

I agree. This rule of thirds is very unrealistic for anything other than a very large dedicated listening room.

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I don't think the book is released yet.

It's not out yet.

@@mpgattuso1 thx for the information

@@stonefree1911 thx for the information

Me neither! Here it sits on my desk and I can't yet publish it. Soon though. The companion SACD/CD is the holdup. As soon as that is ready we can go to press. Look for mid January 2021.

@@Paulmcgowanpsaudio I’m definitely gritting it I’m from Ireland and have been in the Hi-Fi business fo nearly 40 years and since I’ve watched you , I can’t believe how much I’ve learned brilliant Paul

Excuse me, the correct and official name for the virus that is spreading like wildfire in the USA is called Covid19, not the Chinese virus as your out going, very unpopular president in US history, Trump has put it. Don't let it catch on your mind like the virus to your lungs, it is as leathal as that for the virus destroy your lungs but this evil president's speech poisons your mind. Just remember that.

The best loudness was on the Yamaha a variable knob that automatically lowered the volume in proportion with the enhanced tone. I wish they would bring that back on the new high end equipment just released

@@josepharchila1496 I agree i had a Yamaha and a Kenwood with variable loudness, still have the Kenwood sounds great at all volumes provided you don't over do it. normally i have the loudness at around 50%. What's the issue of providing it and then having a bypass for the purists?

Soon. Yes. The Audiophile's Guide will be out in January 2021. Look for it on Amazon. By me.

If Paul is using an active electronic crossover, he can likely just dial in some delay, because yes, as the speakers stand, the bass will arrive at the listener’s ears after the rest of the music from the front towers (these are real towers, unlike the 3-foot-tall “towers” many people think of) arrives, which is particularly bad for percussion, if some comes through the bass towers and some comes through the treble towers. This is one of the advantages of using active crossovers.

lol, that came to my mind also, whats wrong with us ;-))

As usual, you couldn’t have hit the nail on the head any harder! Do you still recommend MiniDSP?

DSP ????? OMG !! You should be banned for life or tared and feathered...or both. 😆😂🤣

@@poserwanabe LOL, yeah and some audiophiles should go back to vacuum tube based computing from the 1950s and stop using smart phones and PCs that include billions of evil high density transistors enabling our modern CPUs, GPUs, NPUs and of course, DSPs.

Lyngdorf RoomPerfect is the best room correction if you don't have a dedicated accoustic treated room. Ends results RoomPerfect sounds better than even most rooms (apart from very high end expensive) with accoustic wall and ceiling treatments.

@@ThinkingBetter I've built several tube amps from kits in my younger days, now I think they only belong in museums....🤔 Btw, speaking of dsp, I still remember the first time I heard a Yamaha Rev 7 in a studio, the next live show I did it was in my rack, spent hours making all the perfect presets, it was digital from that day forward 👍👍

I doubt it is compromised. This room was designed (w the speaker designer involved) and indeed optimized for THESE speakers. In fact it's clearly USING the room w bi-pole, line array speakers. Also has huge bass traps. (He admits it doesn't sound the best outside of the optimal listening position.)

I agree. Speaker/Room interaction are almost always inadequately addressed. Knock down that wall!!!