Okay, I'll bite. :) Compared to other countries, does Canada's tech infrastructure and tech culture make it better or worse off when it comes to implementing UBI?

​@@joshhakey7705 asking in good faith, is there anywhere to find information about these allegations? Like is this substantiated anywhere?

@@kindadumbkindastrong4429 yeah, or even just elaborated on. I did a web search and found something talking about some sort of controversy on 8chan at some point, which... maybe is related?? but "Dan helped hide sexual abuse done by one of his colleagues" doesn't really fit with what I read, so I'm not sure. Anyway, would definitely like to know about any allegations that may exist, because I like to withdraw support from folks who have even remotely plausible allegations... but I'd need more to go on than this, I think. Josh, can you say more?

Also, @@joshhakey7705, I will just say that given what he's saying (granted, about something else) at 45:49, it would be.... a bit ironic for this to be the case. (Which I _do _*_not_* take as an indication that it's untrue, mind you. Just pointing it out, and noting that I could easily see reasons to motivate a false flag (I'm probably not quite using that term correctly, but hopefully you get my drift) attack here, so... hence wanting at least a little bit more here.

@@DavidLindes second question who are dan's colleagues ? like did an editor of his chanel do something ? i'm confused.

The crash would have happened anyway, but yeah, "a big hit" is an undersell.

I sent it to my crypto-bro brother-in-law and it made him stop pressuring everyone to “invest”, so if Dan ever needs a kidney or something I owe the guy. 👍

Reminds me of an anecdote Ben Stiller has about how Gene Hackman did a movie he liked and it got him into film making, and when he told Hackman that Hackman's only response was the movie was a good paycheck.

It's not entirely off base! Since irrational hype is literally the only thing NFTs ever had going on for them, something that changes public perception of NFTs is going to have a measurable effect!

​@@midimusicforever yeah if dan didn't do it dan with a hat would have. he's truly the Gavrilo Princip of our generation.

That line didn't just hit, it fired for effect with a whole battery of feelings. Holy shit. The sadness that it brought... ... and then turned to anger and frustration to hear that some crypto-grifters perverted that into trying to hype their stupid worthless piece of shit 'metaverse'. Nothing is sacred to those ghouls.

I wish nothing but the best for you and your loved ones from back home. It's not as extreme as the one that happened to your home, but I lived very close to another flood related disaster: Hurricane Katrina in 2005. I was a kid and we lived 20 miles from New Orleans. I am very grateful we did not live in the city, as the amount of strife, trauma, and pain that people and their families had to endure was extremely upsetting to even just witness it before my eyes.

And then of course the media has to come and spin that tragedy as feel-good story -.- "We've indirectly destroyed this culture, but it's okay because now there's a VR experience! We don't have to change anything at all"

Exactly! It's a memorial service, and therefore not something that should be receiving tech hype spin

That twist, with the song that cuts in, floored me at the time. It's so good.

It was very awakening for me. As someone who has been on 4chan for like 6 years since I was a teen (Haven't gone on there since like 2015) - I knew these ideas were around - I knew there were basket cases on there that went on and on discussing and proselytizing it (this was when /pol/ was a very recent addition to the site). I generally treated that board as radioactive - def on the short list of no-go boards for me. So that isolated me from its growth and amplification - and then I stopped using the site after losing interest. Then BAM, seeing it again after that chapter change in Dan's videos and seeing that it had grown up into a giant monstrous phenomenon and that it had burst into real life in an extremely alarming fashion.

Imagine that someone makes a video about flat earth, about how the misinformation spreads through an insular supportive community, and then at the end of the video starts to talk about the myth of many genders and how the disinformation about the nonexistence of bimodal sex is spread by the insular LGBT community through cult-like positive reinforcement and rejection of outsiders. I think it's a bit childish. To tackle an issue, then turn around and say "...and you know who ELSE is wrong? My political enemies!"

what always amazes me is that he made that vid pre jan 6th, it was like he got his script from the future lmao

as good as “Line goes up” is, I’m always a little disappointed to see it sitting at like 12M views while “In Search of a Flat Earth” is at 3M. everyone should see it at least once.

hero rising arc

Ah, the "if the damned kid hadn't said anything, we'd have been just fine with a naked Emperor" argument. I hope you're being sarcastic, but if not, a market for what is essentially digital cartoon cels is an absurdity.

@@miskwaad I don't think that's sarcastic, but I don't think its in support of NFTs. His point sounds to me like "Dan doesn't even realise how good his video is."

How did that turn out in the end, can you give a follow up? I hope it eventually righted itself...

That’s my favorite too.

That one and the snowman video are so good

it’s so good

His videos are just too good. Even the super old ones with the puppet etc, everything is so rewatchable

sort of related, but I personally get similar enjoyment from Action Button, if you're more into video games. long, thoughtful, surprising essays.

He was just on Adam Conover about AI.

​@@colin1259 Yeah but I'd have to endure Adam Conover and that's not worth it

@@jongarzamxI’d never heard of Conover b4 watching that podcast and thought he came off pretty well. Funny and knowledgeable, had good chemistry with Dan. Would I watch his podcast if the guest wasn’t someone I wanted to hear from anyways? No, but he wasn’t annoying.

​@@jongarzamx I can see someone finding Adam to be a little much but it was a good episode

@@jongarzamx It's pretty good, tbh - Adam's high energy works well with Dan's calm energy

We need to find a way to scale Dan somehow. Maybe a Folding Ideasverse...

there will likely always be con men, unfortunately. there will always be people who lie, cheat, manipulate others, even for zero personal gain (for example: cheating in video game speedrunning)

^^ Feminists be like "capitalism"

@@chainswordcs sure there may well always be people lying for clout, but if a society is built where everyone’s livelihood is guaranteed (such a society has not yet been perfectly built and I don’t have answers about the logistics of building it, this is not the point) then there won’t be people cheating other people out of their livelihoods

​@@mintybidness6614 what does feminism have to do with anything

Great video, even if you don't really have any interest in DC or superhero movies.

This was the one that got me into his content to begin with, perfect introduction

it's so wild that even though based on the title you'd think 'ha! he's been proven wrong' and then you watch it and... no he's totally right

I forgot I watched one excellent vid

@@idontneedaname318 yeah, with the "Snyder cut" basically being an entirely different movie that was reshot and re-edited exclusively because people thought it existed. I went into that video being curious about that too- I had already watched several other of his videos and understood that he and I have very similar viewpoints on many things, so I was interested in watching a video where the title could be taken out of context to call him wrong, but he wasn't. Dan is probably one of the smartest content creators on the platform in his ability to systematically tear down false perceptions of media.

If they're sharing it, it's because they plan on making their easy money FROM you.

​@@vaiytor they plan on getting money from other people by showcasing their charitable work. (Ads are an example of this, as is popularity) There are a few, though, that have good hearts and really do provide valuable info just for free for anyone to learn.

​@@nagoshi01you're right but also your comment isnt very relevant. Money doesnt grow on trees, it has to be taken from others, typically in exchange for something. So by definition, a real trick for "easy money" is a scam taking advantage of someone else so yes, honest people want to help out others by giving away honest advice. but "easy money" cannot ever be honest advice, easy money by definition is dishonest.

*piss poor This correction has more depth and credit than any towards Dan's videos.

Which KZfaqr?

It was the Blender guy, right?

I was under the impresion that the new satanic panic was the new satanic panic

My boss is an NFT bro and he insists that Line Goes Up is irrelevant now because NFTs and the crypto world have evolved so much since the video came out.

Both are great. Very instructive in the language of film and what filmmakers are trying to communicate shot by shot.

The one that made me really pay attention was "The Snyder Cut Does(Not) Exist". I like Zack Snyder, flaws and all, but I didn't think the Snyder Cut had a snow ball's chance in hell.

@@GreaterSeraph that one continues to impress me, because at the end, he lays out the circumstances under which a Snyder cut might be produced, and he actually got very close.

I also found him through his suicide squad video and instantly subscribed. Shortly after that I watched his annihilation video, and it genuinely changed my relationship with media. I was a very impressionable teenager around that time, and I was coming across a lot of the hyper literal, watchmojo-adjacent “media analysis” content that youtube’s algorithm was pushing.

Thank you very much for the kind words! I do my best in these 1:1 interviews to let the interviewee speak for themselves. When you're interviewing someone you're a fan of, it's difficult to hold back the urge to 'prove' you're a fan with references and whatnot. I'm glad you thought it worked out!

*cough cough adam conover*

@@litarogers3984 100% yes

That's why I need him to occasionally dissect trash movies still! Or even mediocre ones. I love the insight he provides. As much as I love his debunking videos and think they're a public service, it's so rare to see good movie breakdowns that I miss his other stuff.

Same thing happens to atheistic KZfaqrs and weird religious propaganda ads.

My only hope is that the same logic drove people genuinely investigating to get into crypto right into Dan's video and convinced them to walk away from the scam

KZfaq's algorithm has always had a hard time distinguishing between different views on the same subject. Before i aggressively curated my youtube experience, every time i watched certain divisive people on youtube my feed would be full of videos from their haters.

@@esr1412 I mean, NFTs have basically died so....

I think Line Goes Up provides an engaging, digestible presentation of a lot of ideas that the tech and economics literate have been trying to articulate for more than a decade now.

That's one interesting point, the Con in Confidence scam is now warped to where, you know this grift sucks and you hate it, the people who see this grift know it sucks and they hate it, and the only reward you get is the money from people more desperate than you, where as before, being a conman was almost prestigious, with enough skill, you were the miracle worker in the town and everyone loved you for taking their money (until they realized what was happening) like, even the art of conning people has been standardized, industrialized, and broken down by modern day society

The medium is the message my man. We have to have you back on now that we have video technology.

I do miss him dissecting movies though...

This is really great feedback! Thank you so much. Very new to the KZfaq game. If you have other feedback on the video or interview, I'd love to hear it.

@@DouglasSoltys I would try to have the guest talking as much as possible, and you as little as possible, in videos like this one where people are likely to come because of the guest.

​@@goodlookingcorpse idk, i don't dislike more casual podcast interviews generally speaking

@@goodlookingcorpse 100% agreed. Our panel episodes are much more back and forth.

Same, was suggested a few times but panned on the assumption it was an hour long video essay, ha

He has so many masterpiece videos, it's insane

I feel the same way about positive attributes in general. Sure, you might have to in a job interview, but I consider that a sign of how fundamentally broken the job interview system is.

@@SnakebitSTI also if someone feels the need to activiliy sell themselves to you (like in a job interview) thats just kind of a red flag in general.

​@@quinnkaplan172I get what you mean. It kinda depends - certainly saying 'I'm smart' is a braindead move in any kind of job interview. When I graduated and started job hunting as an electrical engineer, I felt I had to sell myself bc I had to make myself stand out from the other million grads with 0 experience. Nowadays, after a couple years of experience, I try to tread the line between selling (stuff like 'I'm a fast learner' or other personality traits that are good for an engineer in a team) vs reciting the things I've done and letting them speak for themselves. I imagine once you're a senior level or a wizard with 20 years of experience, you just don't sell at all. Tell them what you've done, in a very matter of fact kind of way. Hell, sometimes the wizards won't have to do fuck all to land a job besides attend a call as a formality, as his/her reputation precedes them

@@nagoshi01 posted late last night so don't fully remember what i was referring too but i think i meant that if someone is acting like their in a job interview in casual conversation that is a red flag.

@@quinnkaplan172 yeah that's straight up psycho behavior there

I'm a straight dude - that said - I'm glad someone said it. I like to imagine him in remote Canada with just a log cabin, a shotgun, and his cat, being like the internet's night watchman

yeah dan's a hottie 😂

oh for sure, he's really aged well

That's what happens when you are commited to adressing problems you notice and are invested in helping people. Basic trend chasing always leaves you in the dust.

Same. I want an Elden Ring video in the form of a recounting of the online narrative that's been told over the last ~12 years as FromSoft release game after game

I have a friend that tipped me off to Dan's videos, so I asked them what they wanted me to ask Dan. Glad we got it in the episode!

Couldn’t agree more, the transition to part 2 was buttery smooth and very eye-opening

I'd love to hear him say some shit like '...there was a book, Moby Dick, in which a ship captain has an arch nemesis whale - and he sets out to kill it'

Damn, good point

The best part is, you can see how bad we are at each other's jobs. AI has to train for the equivalent of all of modern history only to be confused by the simplest things, while humans get ground down into pulp because we aren't very sturdy cogs in the machine, being made of flesh and not steel

Lmfao cardboardsona, that got me

the only one whose videos ill rewatch

I really love that trilogy, too. I hope we can see some of those more fun and unserious videos come back time to time.

Thank you so much for the kind words! Is there something specific our video you enjoyed? I'd appreciate any and all (constructive) feedback.

As an American who has spent time abroad and that engages with other citizens on a regular basis, I'm surprised how dominant and influential American culture is on the outside world, and I understand wanting to preserve your own culture more so it doesn't get lost to the passage of time. However, the C-11 bill strikes me as profoundly ignorant of the internet at best, and downright asinine at worst. I'm all for knowing corporations down a few pegs when it's warranted, but trying to make external websites, platforms, etc. try and promote Canadian content is just dumb. If the bill only applied to Canadian entities on the internet then maybe we could have a discussion, but trying to tell the internet at large that they should treat Canadians differently not for the sake of those individuals well being (like GDPR) but for the well being on Canadian business interests is just preposterous

@@jinxed7915 I suppose the problem is that the American hegemony on the internet is so strong that you basically have to use it to try and regulate US entities, because there just aren't really that many other big ones that people use. My understanding is that they don't want KZfaq to promote Canadians full stop, but promote Canadians to users based in Canada, which I can understand. Although I do still agree that I don't think it's well thought out on enforcement and how it would work for those large sites in practise. I think the funamental problem is the monopoly that these big companies have over their markets (KZfaq on videos, Twitter on communications etc). Personally I have been making more of an effort to find Scottish KZfaqrs for example, but it has been an *effort*, because despite KZfaq plainly knowing my location it's just not one of the things they select for to maximise retention time.

Thank you I try!

I'm not hearing the "and laughed" bit here. Is that the right timestamp? You might have confused laughed for left.

I love doing multi branch and nightly grifts toot toot!

Yeah exactly. It really is key that people keep in mind that his videos are about narrative, which is inherently sociological and communicative

I don't know how to tell you this but Tuvalu is still there. Could you give some kind of date for when climate change is supposed to physically annihilate it?

Thank you so much!

AI is really only a grift when it's being put into shit that doesn't need it.

@( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Yeah. That's why I hope Dan focuses on image/text generation specifically, because we don't need AI "art" when it should be _people_ making art. I've found _one_ person who makes ethical AI art; they fed Midjourney public domain photos, vintage illustrations, and their own hand-drawn stuff and use it to make clipart sets. Otherwise, I've only seen people trying to mimic a specific artist, or they aim for a generic "realistic" style and sell it without being upfront about using AI.

@@ShayLaLaLooHoo I don't think copying a style is really unethical considering when a human does it that is fair use. I do think trying to sell AI art without saying that it's AI could be a bit shady. I use MJ but I would never try to say I made what it produced. I wouldn't mind if it was decided that you can't copyright AI art.

I would love to hear what Dan has to say on AI art.

@( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) I'm going to use writing as an example: a writer could look at a piece by Edgar Allen Poe and figure out how his style works: the meter, the rhyme scheme, alliteration, etc. A human can understand imagery and symbolism. They can then use those fundamentals to write a poem following these rules and using their own words. On the other hand, an AI program _might_ be able to identify nouns and verbs. A good one might even be able to figure out the meter or how he uses rhyme or alliteration. However, it won't figure out when, why, and how Poe "breaks" those rules (usually to create a sense of unease at a specific point) and whether the poem it's generating should too; most likely, those "broken" rules will act as junk code, disrupting the program and creating, well, junk. However, the worst things are that, firstly, AI will _never_ create imagery or symbolism that truly evokes emotion in the reader. Code can only interpret data literally, not figuratively; it can only pull from other sources, which will either be trite and overused, or is something that another poet carefully made to be particularly effective in its originality. In the latter case, the AI user has stolen it; the writer put effort and thought into evoking a certain tone and meaning,, which the program took out of context, which the user will claim as "their writing" because they coded the program. Even then, the AI will likely never be coded to do much more than identify nouns and verbs and switch them out according to its input commands. Otherwise, it's essentially copy-pasting everything. You wouldn't turn in an essay by copying a Wikipedia article and using the Find/Replace function to change a few words, or turn in a completed MadLibs for a short story. I've heard AI users say that if it's like copy/pasting, then AI art is just like a collage. However, a collage is meant to look like several different pieces connected. An AI image isn't--even if they say "it's inspired by Van Gogh," it will not be clear how many or which other sources the generation pulled from. I've been trying to put this into words for a long time, and I think this finally helped me put the pieces into place. Sorry this is so long 😅

For me, it's the shadow of the colossus video. Or the Fortnite one

@@nagoshi01 i must've watched the shadow of the colossus one recently-ish, because it still has a red bar at the bottom, but i sure don't remember it, so i guess it's time to watch it again!

@@gorimbaud highly recommend! Sadly I never got to play the game. But it's still a great video

@@nagoshi01 the fun thing is i own maybe six ps2 games, and _two_ of them are shadow of the colossus, because the first one i got didn't work. then i bought it a third time when the remaster hit ps4. i have still never beaten the game, but i've played a bunch of it.

Welcome aboard!

Personally I'm so glad it went away. I think him being in the videos added so much to their quality. IMO a faceless voice, in comparison to being on camera, is much less suited to talking about narrative, sociology, and communication. Also just art in general, like his movie and video game vids.

@@nagoshi01 i just thought it was cute

Thank you! If you have any suggested guests or topics for the podcast, we'd love to hear them!

I really do hope this is a joke

@@Lugnal Yes lol.

That timestamp has nothing to do with anything you said though?

@@GPoh_99 Sorry, 28:45

Don't sort by new.

I did, expected the worst, read like two braindead comments. That's pretty tame imo

If Dan was anyone else, I would say an AI video would just be a sign of 'All I do now is ride off the back of whatever the big social topic of this year is'. But for Dan, there is a ton to explore in terms of sociology and the social narrative(s) that are circling about its future, or its current issues etc.