He saw three versions of Gemini Man so we wouldn’t need to see any version of Gemini Man. We all owe him our gratitude!

When I was in South Korea I went on a "Ride" that used seats like those 4dx rigs. The "Tickler" was a piece of rope with a knot tied in the end. During the climatic finish of the ride, a huge gust of air was blown out from underneath the chair, and every single male on the ride got racked in the 'nads with a knotted rope. Great experience, would love to spend 30+ dollars to revisit.

when you're in 4DX and the sᴍᴇʟʟ machine kicks on dan: oh boy it sᴍᴇʟʟs like sᴍᴇʟʟ

Martin Scorsese calls modern movies theme park rides, and modern movies respond by shaking your chair around and covering you in fake snow.

That's six Will Smiths in less than 24 hours!! Five Smiths more than a regular person can handle!!

Im getting flashbacks to the Shrek 4D ride at Universal Studios where Donkey sneezed and we all got sprayed with water and the entire audience yelled in disgust

"The critical flaw is the film itself." PUT THAT ON THE COVER

"The Idea of Scent" - the new premium fragrance by Dan Olson

This movie felt like a sitcom because it's part of the prince of bel aire cinematic universe

Wait. They really doing smell-o-vision unironically???? Holyshit.

I think strobe lights in theaters were a terrible idea. “Are you enjoying your immersive experience? Feel like your inside the movie right now? How about we, just for a split second, shine a light on the seats and people in front of you and the walls around you? That won’t remind you of the fact that you are sitting in a theater at all.”

A tickler adds vibration to your legs for a full-body experience.

Dan's car in a parking lot has more interesting and dynamic lighting than Gemini Man.

That 4DX ad made me mad at both the idea anyone would pay to install all that garbage and mad for the poor ushers who have to clean up after it.

"The upper lip doesn't behave properly..." Did Will Smith have a mustache while they were filming this?

How long til 4DX starts swinging skeletons overhead and having actors run through the theaters wrestling fake giant worms?

This is when the ideas fold into themselves

The fact that they're unironically doing smell-o-vision is sending me

Dan, I can’t believe you spent TWENTY-FIVE DOLLARS to watch a made-for-tv movie. And then decided to watch it again. And then again. You madman

"the sent wafting throughout the theater. which never failed to smell like anything more than the generic idea of scent...." oke so for someone who was born without a sense of smell that sentence is a wild ride beginning to end................

Dan, we're worried about you. Is this a cry for help?

The sheer sarcastic energy during the "tutorial" could cut glass, level villages, and strike fear into the heart of the void itself

Only Folding Ideas could endure such torture.

By the 30th minute of this Vlog, Dan has become so frazzled that he's hasn't thought to call his description of color grading for what it is: The Visual Loudness War.

"The relationship is pretty close to father-son." So, it's another Will Smith movie? Because I struggle to think of a modern Will Smith movie where it wasn't either about his relationship with his character's children, or where the movie goes out of its way to establish his character as a father, who may or may not be in a relationship with the mother. Pursuit of Happiness, Suicide Squad, Bright, After Earth. Even now, when it's not a literal offspring but a clone, he still makes it about fatherhood.

I've seen the 120fps version at a screening earlier this year. Ang Lee was present, but I was honest in my opinion sheet. It was terrible. They didn't finish color grading so everything looked even more bland than it did in its final product. It was also in 3D, so that didn't help. The whole experience left me and my friend with major headaches.

I am HERE for slowed down high frame rate footage of Amy scratching her head

"So here's how to grade like Gemini Man: first of all, just take any LUT and slap it on. Me, who has never seen Gemini Man and does not know what a LUT is: lmao so true

I’ve always said that hfr makes everything look hyper-real but that hyper-reality does not put you in middle earth. It puts you in a sound stage in New Zealand. It might work best for cinema verite kind of project where acting is much more toned down.

I remember they had a 4D theatre in Seaworld and it was cool because a) i was a dumb kid b) the movie was made for 4D and had moments set up for it (ex a guy saying watch out for rats followed by the leg tickler freaking people out). I feel like using those effects on a movie that could stand alone like Gemini man would be distracting rather than immersive. I feel like it is better suited for a ride because those effects are more for entertainment value than storytelling. 4D also seems kind of campy, like a live showing of rocky horror picture show or the room.

I like to think that the sound of the roaring car engine in the background - that Dan had to pause for at 5:23 to 5:27-ish - was actually someone else who’d just watched 'Gemini Man' (in *whatever* format!), furiously speeding away from the cinema in complete & utter disgust!

so what i'm hearing is that movie theaters are unironically turning themselves into the harry potter ride at universal - the four-chair motion benches, the fog, the strobe lights...

I honestly thought the 4D bit was a parody.

I couldn’t go to a 4D theatre I can’t risk my popcorn getting wet

I have no idea what this title means, I just wanted to see Dan talk about movies I haven't seen.

When the light in his car cut out, I thought we would cut to Dan in a straight jacket, in a padded cell, still ranting about this film.

BLINK TWICE IF ANG LEE HAS A GUN TO YOUR HEAD. I saw it in 120fps 2K 3D and came home with a headache.

The title makes me feel even poorer.

The title of the video should be "How I like pain: An Essay in three parts."

I'm here to ask for a ten hour loop of that bit with *The Tickler.*

We've had this effect for years: In Making Of documentaries. Remember anytime you've seen a scene from a movie and then they cut to the same scene being shot on set but from a video camera. The atmosphere is gone, the immersion of being in a movie is gone, and have you noticed how the acting and line delivery always seems flat compared to how it is in the movie? To see a prime example of this in Gemini Man, open two YT windows. In one play the trailer at 24fps and in another play at 60fps. The "He is you" scene in particular shows this.

"Gemini Man is...technically interesting..." - Dan Olson of Folding Ideas

It's ironic to me that high frames in movies seem to be a detriment, whereas in most video games higher frames are almost always a good thing. How watching vs playing/controlling affects our ability to process these things.

I didn’t think that the example you used in your “tutorial” was that bad until I remembered that the Gemini Man is playing in theaters and something like that is currently being projected on a very large screen in a AMC near me. That was when I realized “oh lord this is awful”

This is a Sunday afternoon LEGO set movie. Like you don’t really pay attention to it... but look up every so often go neat. Then back to your LEGO set. Nothing that will ever make you want to keep watching.

There’s something about 60fps recordings that give such a “video” quality to it, like cheap soap operas. You can tell the difference between film and video and that’s what the high frame rate does for me. Edit: this also reminds me of hbomberguy’s Scanline about VHS. The closer you get to filming in reality the easier it is to tell that it’s not actually real.

Looks like one of the screenwriters for Gemini Man isn't a stranger to penning disappointments released this year. Because he's David "Themes Are For Eighth-Grade Book Reports" Benioff.

Wow you’re the first film reviewer on KZfaq I’ve seen that had a good grasp on film on every level and not just the basics of acting, directing and photography! I’m subscribed I love hearing people’s opinions about films on a technical level and not just taste.

22:12 Jesus Christ, my sides hurt from laughing. It’s so absurd. Why the HELL would I want to be TICKLED when I’m at a movie theater trying to watch a movie?

4dx sounds unbelievably distracting. Imagine being on that ride with a migraine.

Considering your point about how HFR makes you aware of everyone just being actors, acting -- the Truman Show might have benefited from HFR.

the things you do for KZfaq lmao still not as nuts as you infiltrating that pick-up artist meetup for hbomb's video, but this is a close second

So you're telling me that nobody in the movie cared about what happened to all the women that were used as surrogates for their cloning operation? SHOCKED, I tell you.

Our hero Dan returns to us in our time of need to see Gemini Man so I don’t have to...WAIT HOW MANY TIMES???

I remember laughing my ass off in the theater when they revealed a third Will Smith.

Damn, I didn't realize Jaden had grown to look so much like his dad This wasn't the After Earth sequel I expected

Good grief this sounds like CIA torture experiments, rather than a movie experience.

The Davinci tutorial interlude was more than I could handle. I had to stop for a while. So good.

By the time that 4DX ad mentioned the LEG TICKLERS I was sure it was a satire.

"The tickler adds vibration to your legs"

I can’t believe that I just watched half an hour of a guy talking in a dim sodium-lamp-lit parking garage. (No regrets.)

There were jokes. Remember when the assassin told the girl she'd talk with or without her teeth,and then she reversed him and told him the same thing, and then Henry comes up and asks her what happened and she drops the teeth into his hands? I didn't say they were GOOD jokes. And why did she pick up the teeth? What would she do with them if Henry didn't ask about what happened?

Man talks to himself alone in parking garage for forty minutes. Still more entertaining than Gemini Man.

Careful, he's a hero

What I've found is that 60fsp makes props look like props rather than what they're meant to be.

I would pay $25 to watch the slow motion scratching cat

"Add a node, and crank it up" - sounds like t-shirt slogan material right there.

Thank you for providing that helpful tutorial on saturation. I'm now ready to make "The Gemini Man 2: Electric Boogaloo".

So what you're saying is... Michael Bay's "The Island" has more philosophical merit than Gemini Man. Got it.

Mother of God, 4DX looks exhausting. I have never been more grateful to live in a middle of nowhere rural town with a one-screen cinema, we'll never be able to afford that crap.

You were kind to Full House by not making it clear that you had Full House specifically in mind, but I know. I know.

The Wachowskis need to try their hand at High Framerate. Speed Racer or Jupiter Ascending would have been fantastic uses of it, I think.

I had a bad feeling about this movie, but I wasn't expecting the stuff going on with the frame rate. I loved the Amy footage tho

Dan looks like hell after the HF showing. that is... concerning

“The idea of scent” So LaCroix is branching out from flavored water, eh?

"Gemini Man", or "Looper 2: electric boogaloo"

"You are going all-in on just... absurdity. You are escalating to just this comical degree. You are constructing a world that is so divorced from reality that it becomes its own substance." - That's what she said!

13:47 reminds me of when i saw a clip of the avengers on a hi-def tv in walmart and was immediately distracted looking at everyone's makeup and costumes

Man this is interesting to me, and I get your frustration. So I come from a literary theory background, and while we share some language and perhaps a commonality of purpose, I can say that I am an ingenue when it comes to FILM theory. I’d totally like to thank you and Ms. Ellis to providing an on ramp for this that is relatable. So yeah, frame rate and how it might contribute to the language is a mind blower. I get that the idea of cinema verity and how much cinema as a language is actually representational is film theory 101, but I must confess, I’ve always had a default position that visual media is REPRESENTATIONAL, know, a nuance I should of as a lit critic picked up on. So, OK, the high frame rate makes it hyper real, thus less a representation, more difficult to manipulate. So, reading a graphic novel, I recognize this is a fiction. Because it is loosely relatable, it allows me to be more forgiving of fantasy, and allowing suspensions of disbelief. So we draw a linear relationship to this, perhaps, which I’d accept continently. I allow movies with more stylized cinematography innately more room to be fiction than movies whose visual language suggests more reality. So, perhaps Ang Lee was a poor choice to do this? I dunno. I get your frustration here. I really enjoyed how you dealt with the idea of editing, and some of the language of that, through Suicide Squad. I actually was looking forward to that movie, and was disappointed. However, your bit on how poorly it was edited articulated a bunch of why. I saw a version of Gemini man was AWFUL I suspect though frame rate wasn’t the PRIMARY flaw. Anyway, thanks for your thoughtful presentations.

This poor man suffered so we wouldn't have to

Screenplay: David Benioff that explains everything

He watches horrible movies (3 times) so that we don't have to. I think the main problem with this film is THE SCRIPT, the frame rate is, in my opinion a gimmick to hide just how godawful the writing is. Isn't Ang Lee powerful enough to demand another rewrite?

Gemini Man: 2 Will 2 Smith

Our theater has the D-box seats. They had a demo one with trailers playing and I tried it out. I felt like I was sitting in a videogame controller with rumble

Technofetish Director : l will construct a fiction indistinguishable from reality for the audience to consume !! Media Critic : No you doofus, the audience constructs the fiction in their heads using the signs and signifier negotiated between you the audience and the tradition of the art. Remove the signs ,like for instance frame rate, and you’ll have difficulty convincing the audience to construct the fiction.

This Vlog shows the true potential of 60fps. I feel like you were in the room with me, and I could feel just how terrible the movie was. Next, I want to see a 60fps audience reaction video of Michael Bay watching Gemini Man.

I remember in interviews from when The Hobbit in 60fps came out, they talked about how they had to do a lot of props differently from how they'd normally be done so they look good in 60fps. Like usually the weapons actors carry on their person in scenes where they aren't in use are made out of rubber or some other cheap, light material. But in 60fps the wobble of rubber weapons was more visible, so they couldn't do that. It was also the reason they couldn't re-use a lot of the miniatures, sets, and props that had been saved from the LotR films--they just didn't hold up at that higher frame rate.

I hate high frame rate in films. It destroys 90%of the CG shots and it gives off the vibes of daytime TV shows

High framerate movies always make everything look cheap. It's crazy. I remember a friend playing movies in high framerate and everything looks like TV show sets.

I was able to experience 4DX with my Uni a few years back for Alita Battle Angel, honestly that hyper real cartoonish action really meshed with the movement aspect of the seats, so it really did enhance the experience for me. But Gemini man sounds like a nightmare in this format

When does Hollywood do a full circle transition and just start putting on high tech plays with Will Smith-Hatsune holograms?

Dude $25 for a ticket is insane. I’ll stick to $6 matinees...

The tickler is actually named after a horror movie villain.

"Different Strobes" sounds like the worst sitcom ever.

You're a madman Dan and I love it 4dx seems horrific. Another reason to keep almost never going to the theater.

That thing about high framerate making things look real in the sense that you're more aware you're watching actors, makes me think that it would work very well for something like the Truman Show.

Did it feel like Will Smith was a good enough assassin to justify raising a whole ass person out of him as an insurance policy? Like he's John Wick on Steroids, right?

Jet Li's The One was less convoluted than this sounds.

I can't stop laughing at that 4DX advert. You could say it's really tickled me 😂😂😂

First the burrito binge during Avengers, now this Dan why you gotta make the filmgoing experience a Japanese gameshow