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How Dangerous is a Dartmoor Bog? - The Dartmoor Podcast Episode Thirty Nine

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The Dartmoor Podcast

The Dartmoor Podcast

Күн бұрын

I attempt to cross the infamous Foxtor Mire, and wonder how difficult it would be to die in a Dartmoor bog. I also find a tiny carnivorous plant, and get pixie-led all over Crane Hill and Great Gnats Head (though I don't admit this in the video).
Past George waffles on a bit in this one, but don't worry, I managed to shut down any 'Hound of the Baskervilles' chat.
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@alexdetrojan4534
@alexdetrojan4534 Ай бұрын
Great 'podcast' 😏 The bogs in my part of Canada(Northern Ontario) are serious business and quite deadly for those foolish enough to venture into their heart. Dartmoor is quite beautiful and it is my hope to hike thereabouts one day. Thanks for taking us along. 👍
@12yearoldNFSMWDK
@12yearoldNFSMWDK 27 күн бұрын
I always thought the Raybarrow Pool was the most dangerous mire on Dartmoor. Great video and beautiful place.
@jontron380
@jontron380 27 күн бұрын
I really like the approach your videos take to conveying the interests that Dartmoor can offer, keep up the good work 👍 I can warn of the need not to be complacent whilst walking in relatively inoccurus terrain. The path marked on the map between West MillTor and Yes Tor can get particularly water logged. Beware around the river crossing, as whilst admiring the view and travelling over reasonable ground i disappeared upto my trouser tonsils. Lucky for me my pack stopped further sinking and i was able to extract myself, i was alone with no witnesses 😅
@devonwalking
@devonwalking 20 күн бұрын
Fabulous again George. I agree that Raybarrow has a worse reputation and we have passed it (giving it a very wide berth) several times, and it looks pretty nasty! We had an experience on Fox Tor Mire, back along when we first started our weekly adventures on the moor and were frankly a bit inexperienced in Dartmoor bog hopping (what would we do without a stick and tussocks 😁. One of the first Dartmoor walking books we aquired was Starkey's Exploring Dartmoor, a lovely book with wonderful descriptions and line drawings and hand drawn maps (it was these that caused the issue, we did have an OS map but couldn't corrolate Starkey's drawing with the OS map (our inexperience) and a compass). On the route that Starkey suggests the path (I now know) seems to go to the east of the path marked on the OS map and we 'probably' followed that. There was a path of sorts and we managed to cross the Swincombe but then it was horrible, no path, boggy and very very tussocky. We were aiming for Childes Tomb but by the time we had got the other side of the wall I was in a huff and we lunched in the tin working remains to the west of Fox Tor and trudged back to Nun's cross and back to Princetown. I now realise where we went wrong (apart from anything else we didn't appease the Pixies 😂) and if we did it again (not in a rush to be honest) I would follow the 'proper' path! Starkey says that the path is well marked with paint tipped sticks, but our edition is dated 1995 alot can happen on Dartmoor and a bog in 20 years! I am not saying that his routes or books aren't good, they are great, but worth remembering that things can change and next time I will trust the OS map instead (ish, as I know that some of those green lines are rubbish 🤣). We didn't get stuck in the bog, didn't drown, didn't meet the Hound (sorry) but learned a few lessons.
@thedartmoorpodcast
@thedartmoorpodcast 17 күн бұрын
It can get pretty demoralising can't it! I wonder if there's any trace of those paint tipped sticks anywhere?
@devonwalking
@devonwalking 13 күн бұрын
@@thedartmoorpodcast doubt it! We tried to follow the route in the book, but being a line drawing not easy. It did look to be to the east of the 'marked' bridle path on the OS map. One day perhaps we will go back and go the 'proper' way, I have an urge to walk to John Bishop's House from Whiteworks (Ter hill on the way out and the non existant bridle path on the way back 🤣).
@eamonnquigley2125
@eamonnquigley2125 Ай бұрын
what a barren place but at the same time .... beautifull
@dartmoordog7912
@dartmoordog7912 13 күн бұрын
Really interesting, as usual, George, but also informative. I did not know the difference between a bog and a mire until now, despite falling foul of both in the past. The worst experience was many years ago, whilst taking part in the Ten Tors, when the team leader got stuck in a bog. The team had to stand in a line, linking arms, to pull him free - but not before he was up to his armpits. A scary incident for us kids.
@thedartmoorpodcast
@thedartmoorpodcast 12 күн бұрын
That sounds terrifying! Did he style it out and say he did it deliberately to teach you about the danger of bogs (that's what I would have done - ha!).
@dartmoordog7912
@dartmoordog7912 12 күн бұрын
😂No, George, definitely not. We were pretty well equals, intent on getting to the end of the walk. Besides, he was panicked. The more he struggled, the more he sank. It was similar to quicksand.
@h.bsfaithfulservant4136
@h.bsfaithfulservant4136 Ай бұрын
'He's going to die isn't he?'. 😆 I'm really glad he didn't ☺️ Keep up the great work past, present and future George 👌
@tweedyoutdoors
@tweedyoutdoors Ай бұрын
Great video George(s) - what a talent you have for taking a subject which may on the surface seem unpleasant (ticks, slugs, bogs) and showing it can actually be fascinating and even magical. I've never had a genuinely dangerous encounter with a bog on Dartmoor but the time before last that I did a wild camp there I ended up with a very wet and muddy foot, having misjudged a tussock. Alas I had honed my tussock judgement when I was a teenager, and I suspect rather different dynamics are at play nowadays.
@allyw6604
@allyw6604 Ай бұрын
Whenever we get lost on Dartmoor we always seem to end up in a bog. My son lost one of his wellies in one once! We try to avoid them these days 😊
@HeffalumpHorralump1
@HeffalumpHorralump1 Ай бұрын
I don’t think the pixies want your weird Lego bread. Great video 😊
@peterbudd44
@peterbudd44 Ай бұрын
Enjoyed that , informative too ... Thanks.
@ELUSIVEDARTMOOR
@ELUSIVEDARTMOOR Ай бұрын
Great video explaining the stories that were told when I see the moss and long grass I try to avoid it looks a quick way but it will definitely slow you down 🤟🤟
@DaveDoesHiking
@DaveDoesHiking Ай бұрын
Great video again George! Educational and interesting as ever! I can’t remember the last time we heard so much from Past George in a video! 😂
@thedartmoorpodcast
@thedartmoorpodcast Ай бұрын
Yeah - you should see how much I had to edit out! He wouldn't stop waffling!
@Mrsmith74
@Mrsmith74 Ай бұрын
You found the reset button & didn't press it!?? Top vid👍
@thedartmoorpodcast
@thedartmoorpodcast Ай бұрын
Thank you! P.S. Watch right to the very end ;)
@Mrsmith74
@Mrsmith74 Ай бұрын
@thedartmoorpodcast 😂👌 vellake corner, infinitely more moist than expected, near the footpath over the river, Myself and my trusty companion, a rescue staffy called Macs discovered our first "scary" bog, right leg up to my hip, left leg up to the knee, trusty companion.....left me for dead.
@TheGunns
@TheGunns Ай бұрын
Oh and for my bog story. This was somewhere North of Scorhill stone circle. I'd left my friends who decided to go for a ramble over the moor, it became very foggy and 2 of my friends had the misfortune of falling into the same bog which was very deep. To make matters worse a dead sheep floated up to greet them. Causalities also included a mobile phone and digital camera. They did make it back but very worse for wear!
@waynus2021
@waynus2021 Ай бұрын
there`s quite a nasty bugger between manga rock and Gidleigh along the Northern Teign (i think it`s called Hew down) that i once stopped walking on instinct and had a good ol` prod , it was at least 4ft deep..................... moral of the story , trust your instincts when on the moor . Another great podcast(not a podcast) George , thank you
@Rat.Boy.with.a.Movie.Camera.
@Rat.Boy.with.a.Movie.Camera. Ай бұрын
Well done on crossing Fox Tor Mire! I tried once in my early boxing days after seeing the path on the OS map, but turned back after losing my nerve. I've also crossed Mis Tor Marsh, but wouldn't recommend it. As for stories, I've only ever been caught out once by a feather bed and went in to my mid thigh. Snapped my stick getting out! Was E of Ughborough Beacon at the foot of a small brook. Now where can we get our hands on a badge?
@WalkingDevon
@WalkingDevon Ай бұрын
I had one catch me by surprise last year, had one leg into it to the top of my thigh. It was halfway up a hill and didn't have the usual growth you see on the bogs on the moors. This just looked like a bit shallow mud, like many on the path I walked through on the path leading up to it. My leg was quite stuck but I got out. It was then I noticed a bloated sheep carcass that got caught out by it too.
@TommyBrookman
@TommyBrookman Ай бұрын
Did you leave Darran's hat up there?
@999britain
@999britain Ай бұрын
Should try looking for bogs earlier in the year ....
@thedartmoorpodcast
@thedartmoorpodcast Ай бұрын
Yeah - they'd be worse in winter, but no sundews!
@999britain
@999britain Ай бұрын
@@thedartmoorpodcast Never step on the ice, in winter.❄️
@999britain
@999britain Ай бұрын
It's wet up here today.
@ELUSIVEDARTMOOR
@ELUSIVEDARTMOOR Ай бұрын
Summer time probably better at winter would be a it dodgy
@jonathanpork-sausage617
@jonathanpork-sausage617 Ай бұрын
Didn't there used to be some sticks marking the way? And has not the odd beast come to an end in such places?
@BoomBoom7621
@BoomBoom7621 Ай бұрын
Thank you! I've just finished reading about Irish blanket and raised bogs in Manchan Mangan's Listen to the Land Speak, so this is timely. Are mires a Dartmoor thing? I walked south from Whiteworks 10 or so years ago and remember lots and lots of backtracking/ re-routing and a max speed of 1 km/h.
@BoomBoom7621
@BoomBoom7621 Ай бұрын
Also - possibly Geoff Woad's beanie hat that you found?
@SunofYork
@SunofYork Ай бұрын
Can't yoiu give him a heavier back pack and smaller shoes...
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