How Davy Crockett became an American legend

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4 жыл бұрын

Was Davy Crockett a sellout? And does it matter?
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In this episode of History Club, Vox’s Phil Edwards asks Coleman Lowndes a question: Was this American legend really as great as he was cracked up to be?
Davy Crockett’s become an American tall tale, but he was a real person and member of Congress. That’s where things get complicated. His incredible feats of bear-killing and frontier exploring intersected with a political career that was catalyzed by central banking.
When Crockett was alive, Andrew Jackson was president, and Jackson was embroiled in a battle over the Second Bank of the United States. That battle eventually resulted in the creation of a new political party - the Whigs - and the Whigs decided Crockett could help advance their cause.
In a strange way, it’s possible to trace the American icon and baby boomer fad back to this banking battle. And it says something about celebrity, politics, and how Americans imagine their history.
If you want to read more about Davy Crockett, check out:
The Autobiography of Davy Crockett by David Crockett: It’s folksy, occasionally true, and free. archive.org/details/autobiogr...
David Crockett: The Man and the Legend by James Shackford: This meticulously researched biography is a precise look at the legend’s life. www.amazon.com/David-Crockett...
Portraying an American Original: The Likenesses of Davy Crockett by Frederick Voss: I first encountered this essay in David Lofaro’s anthology of David Crockett history, but it’s a bit hard to find online. You can read this neat art history essay online. www.jstor.org/stable/30240051...
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@CynicalHistorian 4 жыл бұрын

An important omission here: Crockett was involved in the Creek War alongside Jackson. He was reputed to have been alienated from Jackson's Indian-hating because of a massacre during the war. That crucial early interaction colors their entire relationship. Jackson was politically ruthless, and Crockett's opposition to Indian removal (the Trail of Tears is only one tribe of the 5 major tribes affected, BTW) meant that he became alienated from the administration. So it's important to connect the Creek War to Crockett

@jopo6876 3 жыл бұрын

He didn’t leave his home "for fun". His father sold him into servitude to pay off debts and he reportedly fought with all his might to get back home.

@michaelslogic3043 3 жыл бұрын

The world may never know

@WorkHardBeNice Жыл бұрын

Clowns

@nickmajor6849 4 жыл бұрын

You should do Oceania, specifically because the history of its designation as a "continent" is already interesting

@tommarch.4493 4 жыл бұрын

it's a french geograph who propose it

@manus3203 4 жыл бұрын

Oceania

@irving2828 4 жыл бұрын

Nick Major I like how you used the correct term of Oceania and not Australia

@def8332 4 жыл бұрын

Nick Major read my mind. I nominate Oceania as well.

@tommarch.4493 4 жыл бұрын

@@irving2828 there is no correct terms for the designation of continents

@kyletarrao1737 4 жыл бұрын

Oceania!! Do the "Black War" -- the war between colonialists and aboriginals in Tasmania. I dont know too much about this conflict, but I would love to learn.

@Xidnaf 4 жыл бұрын

ooo yes, this would be good!

@kyletarrao1737 4 жыл бұрын

@@Xidnaf Wow. This is so strange. I am a big fan! I can't believe I got your endorsement lol.

@methos-ey9nf 4 жыл бұрын

Well you know more than me, because I'd never heard of this before.

@Yuttho 4 жыл бұрын

@@Xidnaf :O is it thee Xidnaf?!

@MrBassmann15 2 жыл бұрын

I think Davy Crockett was a good man who's herorism was to fight off what he believed was a tyrant. Crockett served with Jackson during the War of 1812 and saw how he horribly treated the Indians. Crockett knew Native American culture well since he would talk with them all the time when hunting. He also didn't like how Jackson treated him and his other volunteers. He didn't give them food, so he led volunteers to find some by disobeying orders to not leave camp.

@jjs7837 4 жыл бұрын

Africa, rarely stories on this continent on vox

@IdiotBoxProductionsTV 4 жыл бұрын

Jean Jacques Sauvanet okay?

@longclaw22-72 4 жыл бұрын

@@IdiotBoxProductionsTV What do you mean okay? His comment is easy to understand

@catherine8548 4 жыл бұрын

@Clay Chiarelott Africa has a ton of documented history.

@longclaw22-72 4 жыл бұрын

Wrong

4 жыл бұрын

The earliest explorers would be really fun. Such as Livingston.

@piercegeorge1450 4 жыл бұрын

In Texas, he’s just the star of the Alamo. That’s it.

@yolissma 4 жыл бұрын

Yes that what I know him for the Alamoooooo

@Lcwtex 3 жыл бұрын

Born and raised

@nandwani88 4 жыл бұрын

Oooh. South America! You can do it on the Guayaquil Conference. Always wanted to know what happened there that made José de San Martin pack up and leave everything to Simon Bolivar.

@hellojari07 4 жыл бұрын

South America, I agree. commenting to move it up.

@jomurico89 4 жыл бұрын

Agree 100% . Very interesting how this two massive figures of South American history met and what happened.

@JustinAbroad 4 жыл бұрын

He was threatened d to be assassinated that's why

@jossiemachado4154 4 жыл бұрын

Yes please!!

@rifow1 4 жыл бұрын

@rachael501 4 жыл бұрын

Africa, it would be interesting to see your take on the "Dahomey Amazons" who were the inspo for the Dora Milaje in Black Panther

@wayne_gakuo 4 жыл бұрын

Also the Maasai people of Kenya were an inspiration for the Black Panther

@jona.scholt4362 4 жыл бұрын

SOUTH AMERICA AND FRANCISCO DE MIRANDA!!!! That guy lived an epic life! Revolutionary pre-Bolivar, had an affair with Catherine the Great, knew many founding fathers, friends with the Wellesley's in England, please please talk about him!

@prazzlerazzle5565 4 жыл бұрын

the revolutions podcast by mike duncan talked a lot about him in the latin american revolutions part of the series

@jona.scholt4362 4 жыл бұрын

@@prazzlerazzle5565 you have no idea how excited I was when the Bolivar series came out and he went of Miranda. Duncan did the world a favor there.

@prazzlerazzle5565 4 жыл бұрын

@@jona.scholt4362 defo one of the best podcasts out there, Bless Mike

@joshmansker 4 жыл бұрын

Davy Crockett hated Andrew Jackson? I like him already!

@colesimons2000 4 жыл бұрын

You should do a semi-crossover between South America & the United Kingdom...look into the 1980s with the Falkland Wars and, perhaps, how it is able to shape Britain’s modern-day politics.

@TommoCarroll 4 жыл бұрын

I love this concept! Bring on more History Club, Vox!

@nkanyezihlatshwayo3601 4 жыл бұрын

"Leander Starr Jameson" and his uncanny capacity to get his name on things, he's the Forrest Gump of late imperial british history - Africa, you should do Africa next (🙏🏾)

@jackyzhu9761 4 жыл бұрын

How does Davy Crockett want his story? A real biography, with hunting and banking!

@lesleeherschfus707 4 жыл бұрын

Fess Parker who portrayed Davy Crockett was paid scale and did not receive residuals from syndication. Disney stiffed him royally. Also he was typecasted which limited his career He made his money from buying land that later became LA.

@lauritammi4598 3 жыл бұрын

Fascinating and genuine attempt to try to understand who Davy Crockett was and what was behind his actions. Thank you! Even if I don’t know if I fully agree with all the conclusions...

@Barrabas-CRM114 4 жыл бұрын

Talk about South America. Suggestion: Bolivar and San Martin encounter in the Independence Wars

@Makinfries 4 жыл бұрын

South America is an untapped treasure chest of good storys.

@DarkTwilightGuitar 4 жыл бұрын

That would be cool

@angelgjr1999 4 жыл бұрын

Yeah. South America and Mexico are full of interesting stories. Truly underrated part of the globe.

@herluivarvela9527 4 жыл бұрын

Yes! This specifically!!

@thelinedrive 4 жыл бұрын

I would honestly suggest doing the independence movements in South America in general, because while the players and figures are all larger than life, they all eerily play out in the same manner weather it is Bolivia, Columbia, Uruguay, Brazil etc.

@nopenopety783 4 жыл бұрын

You should pick a story from Africa

@hflordawn 4 жыл бұрын

You could do Venus Hottentot from Africa

@markaragon8794 4 жыл бұрын

Nope Noparty: Why?

@angelgjr1999 4 жыл бұрын

King Kunta. He was the ancient version of DJango. :)

@tonicastel2390 4 жыл бұрын

Anglo-Zulu war is very interesting.

@tonicastel2390 4 жыл бұрын

Wildwhiteboobies 5000 That’s what war is. So, yes. Doesn’t mean it isn’t fascinating & informative.

@lizzycoltwyty 4 жыл бұрын

Davey Crockett is my 7th great grandfather and this taught me a lot about him

@philipleth2535 4 жыл бұрын

Do an episode on Africa! :-)

@thelastrevolutionary8093 4 жыл бұрын

They have white wash are history

@Lemanic89 4 жыл бұрын

Do Scandinavia and The Nils Dacke Feud!!!

@icegozi 4 жыл бұрын

I'd like for you to do a story from the African continent

@sergiomaggiolo 4 жыл бұрын

SOUTH AMERICA! The San Martin - Bolivar encounter would be amazing indeed.

@edencrump3696 3 жыл бұрын

I love this! I recently learned I'm related to Davy Crockett and I was barely taught about him in school. This video was a good base for me to start my research. Thank you guys! Also, you're both adorable :)

@policebaby8750 2 жыл бұрын

Cool I’m also related to Davy Crockett:)

@FedoraMiaza 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Vox! Can we please have a schedule from you for the different series you upload (Ex. Darkroom every X day or Almanac every Y day). Thankyou! Btw, love your videos.

@IHScoutII 4 жыл бұрын

"Rat hair and asbestos" sounds like Trump's hair piece.

@madeofantoms982 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do Oceania? My continent is not talked about very often unless it is about sports/natural disasters.

@osorioarp 4 жыл бұрын

I love this show! I'm glad it's back. You should do a video about South America.

@Gamepro2112 4 жыл бұрын

Antarctica has some great exploration and survival stories, there’s still historical explorers whose bodies have never been found. But also one of you need to do a Johnny Appleseed episode after this one.

@hflordawn 3 жыл бұрын

Will there be more History Club? I only saw 5 episodes, and it's so good. Please make more.

@johnwoo4743 4 жыл бұрын

Do Antartica! And make it something unique

@Hankerone1 4 жыл бұрын

there is an interesting piece on Vox about Antartica. Go and check it out

@angelgjr1999 4 жыл бұрын

We do not learn about Antarctica much. All we know is penguins live there.

@jayareclark922 4 жыл бұрын

Do it on the Brazilian Monarchy and slaves emancipation by Princess Isabel.

@jjmah7 4 жыл бұрын

Video is more about Andrew Jackson than Davy Crockett

@michaelslogic3043 3 жыл бұрын

Well both of their histories are connected

@StancedSalami 4 жыл бұрын

Love the videos! Keep em rollin!

@craighurley3405 4 жыл бұрын

When you get back on American history, I would love to see the Chicago World Fair and it's impact after 1893. Introduced AC vs DC Titans Edison and Tesla, mass refrigeration, the first automobiles, and many other inventions that took us out of the industrial revolution toward the modern age. Thanks again for your dedication to this channel.

@mguanipa2 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't even know he was actually real. American folklore is so well written for the most part that it's hard to tell

@paulbouffard3449 3 жыл бұрын

He's a Texas hero, we're taught about him in elementary school

@swordthrower2035 Жыл бұрын

Yep, hes my distant cousin

@DerInselaffe 4 жыл бұрын

Love to hear something on Oceania/Australasia. However one defines that area of the world.

@craighurley3405 4 жыл бұрын

Antarctica gets my vote. The south pole expeditions. Mapping the land mass vs the Antarctica shelf. The mystery behind all its fiction works, especially Lovecraft.

@mr.apocalypse5143 2 жыл бұрын

I don’t imagine Crockett actually wore his frontier outfit during his last stand at Fort Alamo like the paintings depict. Pretty odd attire to wear during a siege battle in the middle of the desert if you ask me.

@DimitriJorge 4 жыл бұрын

Can you do a subject on the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom ? Or China's past history in general

@4realGTFOH 4 жыл бұрын

Being from Texas, we learned about Mr Crockett in History class.. "Remember the Alamo"..

@audreycat1791 4 жыл бұрын

Luis Rivera yee haw 🤠🤠

@andrearepetto217 4 жыл бұрын

I'm Peruvian, so I vote for South America, but Africa also doesn't get enough love, so either of those would make me happy! Thanks, love the vids!!

@PureAFM 4 жыл бұрын

Nice one. This format is starting to shape up!

@Ice_Karma 4 жыл бұрын

ANTARCTICA. Do Leonid Rogozov, the Russian doctor who removed _his own appendix!_

@ProjectAA 4 жыл бұрын

South America, please!

@HankCarver 4 жыл бұрын

I watched those Disney movies religiously as a kid. And when we went to DisneyWorld in the 90s they were still pushing the Davy stuff.

@DownBad420BlazeIt 4 жыл бұрын

Pangea, the super continent that keeps on giving. Did you know Pangea was the fist continent to invent ice cream, also tea! What a land of contrasts!

@TomsGarage007 4 жыл бұрын

Australia. Plenty of untold stories there, Tony Robinson did a good show on that

@MISFITaddict 4 жыл бұрын

I love Tony.. I'm gonna look that up, somehow I missed it I think. Thanks

@Lockfin 4 жыл бұрын

Either Australia/Oceania, or the Indian Subcontinent

@stephanhambsch 4 жыл бұрын

South Africa! Also love this series, great work :)

@jacobcooper4760 4 жыл бұрын

Born on a mountain top in Tennessee, killed him a bear when he was only three

@scrambled5948 4 жыл бұрын

Europe, do an episode on Europe

@CalvinHicks1 4 жыл бұрын

Good information. Love this channel!

@kurtislawler 4 жыл бұрын

I've been to Japan a couple of times for work. And both times I wanted to go out and explore all around. Unfortunately I was sent in typhoon season. Didn't give me a lot of free time to explore, when heavy rain, floods, and heavy winds keep you in your hotel.

@gadmas2670 4 жыл бұрын

South East Asia would be interesting as next Topic Continent

@adrianrosario6457 4 жыл бұрын

I mean I know it’s not necessarily a continent but LATIN AMERICA would be dope !!

@jackjanezic7752 4 жыл бұрын

I’m listening to this while my childhood figure of Davy Crockett is on my bookshelf!

@salokin3087 4 жыл бұрын

"50% of us know what we're talking about" so 50% more than the average comment?

@ThatGuyMagnum 4 жыл бұрын

Do Australia/Oceania!

@farahayna2856 4 жыл бұрын

I was just thinking about him yesterday because of the song I heard from Fantastic Mr Fox. Can phones read minds ?

@1042Harley 4 жыл бұрын

Interesting conversation! I’m from David Crockett’s hometown. His home is still there to visit!

@ayylmao2190 3 жыл бұрын

It's kinda cool having a famous relative

@siullph 4 жыл бұрын

Not a continent, but the Caribbean. ...Or South America.

@MisterGuitarItalia 4 жыл бұрын

I choose the continent of Atlantis

@tereebisso6434 4 жыл бұрын

Is history club still happening? I like the format.

@TJl919 4 жыл бұрын

You should do an episode on Scandinavia or Northern Europe. Iceland, Scotland, Norway, all have very deep interesting histories :)

@johnjairobernalgarcia3123 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, amazing show. Please talk about South America. Thanks.

@ChrisWachtler 4 жыл бұрын

East Asia (China, Korea, Japan) or South East Asia would be interesting.

@dcg-doomsdaycultforgamers1180 4 жыл бұрын

Your videos are awesome. TY guys!!!

@ThatDudeShona 4 жыл бұрын

Okay KZfaq, I finally watched this my life will be full of success from now.

@The_Opinion_of_Matt 4 жыл бұрын

Not a continent but, do China and the boxers rebellion and how the U.S Marine Corps was involved.

@Vrated93 4 жыл бұрын

Asia. (South East, specifically.)

@Eolai8 4 жыл бұрын

Tom Crean and his part in Shackleton’s expedition to Antarctica 🙌

@chiraghegde8111 4 жыл бұрын

How about Antarctica? It's interesting as is. If you could find some old story about it, that would be very interesting.

@BASTYK14710 4 жыл бұрын

No idea who he was, but thanks for information anyway :)

@pedrocantovitz5247 4 жыл бұрын

South América, when the US instaled various dictatorial regimes in the cold war

@carlosgillon3761 4 жыл бұрын

You should do Samuel Marsden and the church missionary society in Rangihoua, New Zealand. The first mission station, it was very disfunctional but is very intriguing.

@carlosgillon3761 4 жыл бұрын

Please!

@ms.rstake_1211 4 жыл бұрын

Cool that this is a real conversation. Love this.

@jonnybobby9069 4 жыл бұрын

...why not the history of continental configurations??

@lawrencetchen 4 жыл бұрын

Oceania, but not Australia (unless it's the Great Emu War)!

@AfroSamurai1089 4 жыл бұрын

Pick Africa! My primary school library had a David Crockett illustrated children's book and I could never wrap my head around how a story about a man hunting bears in snowery Winters made it all the way to rural South Africa. The concept of a raccoon hat sends shivers down my spine!

@itsplovertime 4 жыл бұрын

Australia! Specifically, I want to hear about the Emu War.

@albinoperro 4 жыл бұрын

South América!!

@thoyo 4 жыл бұрын

Hi, I'm Davy Crockett, you may know me from various actions such as jumping in the bushes.

@kimbifulco8133 4 жыл бұрын

Would love to know more South American history. Always seemed like there was a big hole in my history classes growing up when it came to that entire continent.

@tahsinmd4945 4 жыл бұрын

Great video

@Mateo-cd1ep 4 жыл бұрын

Tell a tale from south america if you will! Muchas gracias Vox!

@MAGGIE_CHI 4 жыл бұрын

South america pleaseeee

@simplethings3730 4 жыл бұрын

Somebody mentioned South America and the banana republics and I agree that would be a great topic. I don't think many Americans have ever heard of the banana Massacre.

@vaughanmayberry4089 4 жыл бұрын

Nice to hear some fleshing out of this bit of history. Even Australians of my era grew up with the Davy Crockett legend via American TV shows. ( a little critique - from my humble experience in entertainment : - a little too much peripheral fluff guys. ).