How Did Adamantium Poison Wolverine?

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@tricktheorists
@tricktheorists Жыл бұрын
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@jasonmartin7290
@jasonmartin7290 Ай бұрын
Trick therory They explained in logan that they were putting something in the food & drinks to eradicate the mutant gene thats why wolverine was dying as his healing ability was no longer working
@matthewkiggin5456
@matthewkiggin5456 26 күн бұрын
I thought it was Because he got older and older
@jasonmartin7290
@jasonmartin7290 26 күн бұрын
@matthewkiggin5456 his healing factor slowed down the ageing process so when they put something in the food to eradicate the mutant gene yes he was aging g and dying
@harrisonbannerman7412
@harrisonbannerman7412 25 күн бұрын
he explains this in the video
@a-station-
@a-station- 11 күн бұрын
Nothing bothers me more than them trying to sell me x24 impaling him on a wooden stump🙄. Adamantium ain't budging regardless. I've never been so mad leaving a theater
@GDaws
@GDaws 3 ай бұрын
It was his drinking. Which had an ingredient that kills off mutants
@warlockghovat5745
@warlockghovat5745 4 ай бұрын
I honestly don’t like the adamantium poisoning retcon.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
Because there ISN'T a metal-poisoning retcon. It was a studio decision, nothing more. There are dozens of these kinds of videos on KZfaq, but none of them really relate to what's actually happening. Jackman didn't want to play the character anymore, and since he's iconic as Wolverine, the only way to ease fans into it, was to claim he died, but how do you kill someone who's invincible? Adamantium poisoning, how else! Old Man Logan was a kind of What If run that did exactly what the movie did, killed the character, but the character still lives in the actual X-Men comics.
@gabiwolf1439
@gabiwolf1439 24 күн бұрын
​@@FatalShotGGwhat does that have to do with logan's adamantium poisoning?
@stronk9760
@stronk9760 12 күн бұрын
I think it makes sense. Wolverine isn’t immortal and just like everyone else his body slows down with age. Regardless of poisoning or not his healing factor would eventually slow down to the point where it couldn’t save him.
@tayc9542
@tayc9542 7 күн бұрын
It was because they put something in the food and etc
@flyingnimbus8524
@flyingnimbus8524 11 ай бұрын
Wolverine metal claws look more like kitchen knives instead of boney claws covered in metal😂. And in som comics his claws look like literal razor blades
@ProfessorKenneth
@ProfessorKenneth 9 ай бұрын
I've said that many times.. but I guess the metal just altered his bone claws to look like a ninja sword blade.🤷🏻
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns
@BrandonFlint-ro2ns 5 ай бұрын
His claws actually do look somewhat blade like even in their natural state but they shouldn't be that smooth lol
@SilasBlanks71912
@SilasBlanks71912 4 ай бұрын
Good point 😅
@razzo086
@razzo086 Ай бұрын
They should have just made his original bone claws look the same as when they were covered in metal since when he first appeared in the comics he already had metal claws. Whoever first wrote and designed Logan in his backstory before weapon x made the stupid mistake to change what his claws looked like with adamantium
@guywithdreads
@guywithdreads Ай бұрын
I always thought they were triangular in shape and were covered kinda like how chocolate covers things 🤷🏾‍♂️🤦🏾 I could just be hungry tho 😂😂😂
@Enraged-Gecko
@Enraged-Gecko 6 ай бұрын
Numerous Marvel characters have adamantium implants, including several base humans. The comics have mentioned that the Adamantium used on Wolverine was medically inert, but there are several radioactive isotopes of that substance. My theory is that his hyperactive immune response continually attacks the Adamantium, sheering off electrons and converting the metal bonded to his skeleton into a less stable form that produces ionizing radiation. As for the Logan film, Wolverine drinks copious amounts of whiskey, which can have a mash bill (the starches that ferment to produce alcohol for distillation) can be more than 50% corn. This is apparently done to dull the pain.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
It's all conjecture. The writers and creators, not the fans, have full say about their creation. It's good to have theories, it shows that you have a logical thought process, but remember, the Fox movies have nothing to do with the MCU.
@Enraged-Gecko
@Enraged-Gecko Ай бұрын
@@kiillabytez At least until Deadpool & Wolverine bulldoze into the MCU in July. As for conjecture, it’s a mechanism to suspend disbelief. Asking the fans to accept that a single gene can express in such a dramatic fashion, granting various anomalous abilities that are unique to every individual without some form of mental gymnastics is a bit much. There’s only so much you can ignore.🤷‍♂️
@mattshort4001
@mattshort4001 Ай бұрын
Wolverine was weakened in the Logan film because of the transigen virus, which targets mutants and was added into the food supply. The only reason he's still alive in the film and all the other x-men/mutants are dead is because of his healing factor. The reason his clone and Laura are healthy is because they were raised in a lab with access to clean food.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
@@mattshort4001 Multiverse. Days of Future's Past
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
@@mattshort4001 Phalanx Covenant
@Creasey_F
@Creasey_F 3 ай бұрын
I thought it had something to do with how the food and beverage industry put mutant killing properties in foods.
@euphony8818
@euphony8818 3 ай бұрын
It's also a factor why Logan's healing factor weakens. That plus the poisoning ultimately weakens Logan and kills him.
@irvinalexanderflores
@irvinalexanderflores Ай бұрын
Yeah he mentions it towards the end
@ceding3741
@ceding3741 Ай бұрын
The sucrose in foods negate the x factor in mutants so his hilling powers stopped working to fight off the hevey mettle poisoning
@Doctor_Odin
@Doctor_Odin Ай бұрын
you’re essentially right the poison was designed to completely shut down the X gene within carriers and kill the ones that have active X genes. Which is why they restrained in the beginning of the movie from eating processed food. Because the active ingredient the poison was mixed with is in nearly everything that’s processed.
@kamil2314
@kamil2314 11 ай бұрын
It was also becouse in Logan humans started adding something that was killing mutants and this slow down his healing factor
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 Ай бұрын
It was the corn syrup. And it’s also in beer or soda which Wolverine drinks quite often.
@Soup-Zeus42
@Soup-Zeus42 2 ай бұрын
Honestly wolverines claws and metal skeleton should not poison him, they coated the adammantuim on to his bones but the healing factor fused it , Logan’s healing factor changed the metal into adamantuim beta , which has all the benefits of the metal but allow his bones to work since A Beta has organic properties now. In theory if some how he lost a limb he should be to grow it back , and also believe it be metal still. And if not metal at least bone . The writers just got lazy and need to give him a weakness
@ronsexton3891
@ronsexton3891 Ай бұрын
I've been arguing this exact thing. with my friends for years!!
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
Because Jackman's reluctance to play the character further.
@Soup-Zeus42
@Soup-Zeus42 Ай бұрын
@@ronsexton3891 lol i feel your pain
@travis-coltgray9536
@travis-coltgray9536 9 ай бұрын
Came for wolverine, stayed for biology review.
@gendoruwo6322
@gendoruwo6322 Ай бұрын
and left with wariness for Corn Syrup
@markmagician2471
@markmagician2471 Жыл бұрын
More like 300lbs the metal makes him weigh round 500lbs
@tricktheorists
@tricktheorists Жыл бұрын
My gosh that's ALOT! I would fear swimming if I had that!
@user-bb9bi8wi2u
@user-bb9bi8wi2u 6 ай бұрын
good vídeo, and thanks
@razzo086
@razzo086 Ай бұрын
I wonder if Logan’s claws and bone density would’ve come close to being as strong as adamantium after constant breaking and healing making th heal back stronger and stronger and evolving similar to doing weights tearing our muscles causing to heal and become stronger and denser
@argent-kestrel90
@argent-kestrel90 9 ай бұрын
Imagine if Logan lived another year and the condition of his ligaments then. He would be a mess.
@jbalogh01
@jbalogh01 Ай бұрын
6:31 Maybe I'm looking into it too much. But white blood cells are provided by bone marrow. Which is also what the body needs to heal wounds. If his bones are coated completely in metal, his bone marrow cannot release white blood cells into the body. So what's up with that?
@glinkrecords
@glinkrecords Ай бұрын
Adamantium poisoning doesn't make sense brother if the metal is indestructible it doesn't break or corrode its just a studio decision to kill of the character, in the comics this isn't a thing they try to kill him by encasing him in adamantium and he broke out
@irvinalexanderflores
@irvinalexanderflores Ай бұрын
Bullseye also gets Adamantium on his bones after the method of bonding was perfected with no side-effects whch i imagine cant be too hard considering it already doesnt release any excess metals into the body
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 Ай бұрын
Bullseye also doesn’t cut through his skin with claws all the time
@tommytexter4054
@tommytexter4054 5 ай бұрын
Should have just coat the claws with adamantium instead of the whole skeleton like x23
@NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw
@NoneofyourBusiness-gy9yw Ай бұрын
if adamantium is suppose to be unbreakable then how can it corrode ? but adamantium is supposedly lower tier if compared to vibranium.
@keith32482
@keith32482 26 күн бұрын
I thought because the metal covered the bones it almost completely blocked access to his bone marrow. Which is where his healing factor is.
@brenscott5416
@brenscott5416 29 күн бұрын
Realistically his healing factor is basically unhampered by the adamantium, just look at comics old man logan, he outlived practically everyone and still was more than able to hold his own in a fight. Case and point he regrew in hulks stomach and slaughtered him along with she hulk and their kids (ya its a fucked up comic) with ease. His healing factor was slowed but only by a bit
@ghostface0927
@ghostface0927 Ай бұрын
The reason is simple, wolverine is just as durable as a regular man with the exception of his metal skeleton, but has a healing factor, so if you put something in his body that's very toxic, the healing factor wont cancel it out but could only delay the effects. Or in some cases, it can't stop the poison at all. I didnt watch this video, but thats the answer. If an adamantium bullet is shot at him and removed than he wouldn't get poisoned, but if left in it would.
@yoshirocks64
@yoshirocks64 4 ай бұрын
I heard a theory once that the reason Logan was dying was because his healing factor is affected by his will to live. The stronger his willpower and desire to keep living, the stronger he heals, hence why the earlier films he was invincible but by Logan he is barely breathing. I mean, it kinda makes sense when you think about it. Possible spoiler warning for those that haven’t watched Logan (which I doubt are many since it came out nearly a decade ago but still, just in case): Throughout the whole film, he’s incredibly depressed and has become an alcoholic. All his friends and family are dead or dying, and soon he’ll be all alone. He even admits that he has an adamantium bullet for when he’s had enough (if you catch my drift). I think it’s possible that a combination of this, the adamantium poisoning, and the corn syrup theory could be why his healing factor is severely stunted. Even when he gains some hope by saving Laura and the other young mutants (thus maybe increasing his will to live) the damage is done and his healing factor simply can’t keep up, thus why he dies at the end. That’s just my theory on it though. I haven’t really fully seen the movie, just bits and pieces at different times that eventually add up to most if not the full film, so it’s possible I missed something or misinterpreted something.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
The theory is wrong. It was political. Nothing more.
@tayc9542
@tayc9542 7 күн бұрын
He explained why in the video near the end
@empoweredshemphoward
@empoweredshemphoward Ай бұрын
I dislike this topic, there's multiple examples of other characters with adamantium implants and base healing never getting sick like this. Bullseye, hammerhead, cyber, sabertooth, lady deathstrike, donald pierce, tigershark, Romulus, Lara, deathlock, and daken are all participants without sickness.
@ynorb9573
@ynorb9573 Жыл бұрын
The odd thing is i wonder how sabretooth can even damage wolverines skeleton Could you do a video on that
@tricktheorists
@tricktheorists 11 ай бұрын
I'll put that on the list! Thank you for the idea!
@ynorb9573
@ynorb9573 5 ай бұрын
​@@tricktheorists hope you didn't forget
@joshlower1
@joshlower1 14 күн бұрын
Maybe after the whole atomic bomb thing his skeleton became radioactive and thats why it was poisoning him.
@jimmycarpenter6612
@jimmycarpenter6612 11 күн бұрын
Seems it would've been better to just coat his arms with the metal. Sure the rest of his body is more vulnerable that way but he was that way a for a hundreds years beforehand anyhow. Less wear and tear and if push came to shove he could cut his arm off and let it regrow and be free of the metal again lol
@davekisman2763
@davekisman2763 7 ай бұрын
Hugh Jackman aka Wolverine Powers/Abilities: ○ Wolverine Physiology • Bone Claws • Decelerated Aging • Enhanced Physique • Enhanced Senses • Feral Mind • Regenerative Healing Factor Experimentations: ○ Adamantium Implant Weaknesses: ○ Adamantium
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
You're wrong about at least two items: Wolverine physiology and feral mind. He's still human in form and function. Feral mind? He's more human than most people. A feral mind would make him more like Green Hulk, totally running on animalistic instinct alone. His Berserker Rage is a totally different thing entirely.
@davekisman2763
@davekisman2763 Ай бұрын
@@kiillabytez True. But haven't you seen how he's acting like an animal? Xavier even called him "you were an animal" in Logan.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
@@davekisman2763 Logan wasn't canon and you know it.
@diggs5518
@diggs5518 5 ай бұрын
No. This is just how they write the story. They write it however they want. Many of the story's Marvel write are utter, Bull-shit! Give Logan his metal and, leave him alone. Period.
@smh8920
@smh8920 Ай бұрын
He wasn't poisoned by adamantium before Days of Future Past. Stryker got Wolverine too early when the movie ended. Stryker hadn't put enough scientific perfecting of the metal at that point in time.
@Naustradamus
@Naustradamus Ай бұрын
It was stupid to call it adamantium poisoning. My guess it was more about bone marrow. If all his bones are completely covered in adamantium, theres no way for anything to flow in or out of his bones. His regeneration was able to handle its absance as his mutation regenerates from the cells in general. Once he started drinking and eating food made in the us that was laced with mutant suppressing chemicals, the lack of bone marrow and the cells they generated heavily started to affect him. The adamantium itself is not the cause as it doesn't degrade nor can his mutant regeneration brake it down. So its more like adamantium blockage poisoning. Again, my guess.
@ProGamer-we6nb
@ProGamer-we6nb 3 ай бұрын
According to the movie he has been facing the poison from the start but due to corn that almost a lot of people eat effects the mutant gene hence weakening his mutant/healing power because of his drinking habit hence making his healing slower and that’s how spoiler: He dies
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
I'm gonna resound with a deafening, NO!
@mattshort4001
@mattshort4001 Ай бұрын
Adamantium did not poison Wolverine. The reason he was weakened in the logan film and the rest of the x-men/mutants are all dead is because of the transigen virus, which was added to the food supply. The only reason wolverine is still alive is because of his healing factor. The reason his clone and Laura were not affected is because they were raised in a lab with clean food.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
Logan's healing factor heals almost instantaneously. He has survived complete cellular deconstruction and reformed completely, only scarring his mental state. The only reason they wrote the character the way they currently have is because Jackman had no desire to play the character anymore. So, the REAL reason is because of studio politics. NOW, since Disney has the rights to the character, we now have a fully regenerating Wolverine. See? Politics, not wild, metal-poisoning theories.
@immortalfallen
@immortalfallen Ай бұрын
I wonder what would have happened if near the end of "Logan" the Adamantium was taken from Logan's body. If that doctor really had a way to free him of it, would his body go into overdrive one last time and burn out, or would he start to heal and age backward a bit?
@PLYTATN
@PLYTATN Ай бұрын
In a comic, Magneto forced all the Adamantium out of Logan's body, the process was so painful that the healing factor was overworked and after it healed him from that incident, it stopped working completely. And that was Magneto, an Omega level mutant. I don't believe a normal doctor can achieve such a thing without giving Logan a major disability afterwards.
@immortalfallen
@immortalfallen Ай бұрын
@PLYTATN I mean, hey, human doctors put it in him. That moment with the doctor just seemed wasted in the movie. It had no resolution. I'm aware of him getting his adamantium ripped from him in the comic. Can't wait to see feral bone claws on xmen 97. My thoughts were more so about what would this doctor thought he could accomplish.
@PLYTATN
@PLYTATN Ай бұрын
@@immortalfallen That doctor can give him more of that green medicine at best, not taking the metal out of Wolverine. Besides, you don't understand Adamantium. The human doctor that put it in him simply was using the liquid form of the metal he got from the ore. But once the metal got injected into Logan and cooled down, it is practically indestructible, i don't see anyway that you can get that much metal out of him without hurting him, given how worse his healing factor got in the movie i don't think he can even survive the procedure. Just because a human doctor put it in him doesn't mean a human doctor can take it out.
@immortalfallen
@immortalfallen Ай бұрын
@PLYTATN so in the comic book movie, you think it's impossible for the doctor to have some way of removing it? Also, I've been reading comics for 30 years. I understand Wolverine and his adamantium. Not rocket science.
@PLYTATN
@PLYTATN Ай бұрын
@@immortalfallen if you have been reading comics for 30 years, you would already know by now that it is impossible for a normal human being to just "remove" Adamantium. It is one of the strongest metal, alongside Vibranium.
@jamesfiaco4922
@jamesfiaco4922 4 ай бұрын
Learning about Wolverine led me to ponder what it would take for a person to be born with his type of immune system metabolism healing capabilities. Fortunately the most highly evolved aspects of femininity and masculinity life death souls spirit Mother Earth nature and wildlife have provided answers in the way of those proclaiming power personified over all such.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
WTF are you talking about?
@millo7295
@millo7295 25 күн бұрын
Get ready for this The cells that give Logan his healing abilities can't heal the cells that give Logan his healing abilities So it's because he's just old, not his whole body, but just his mutation
@thecedc1
@thecedc1 Ай бұрын
Plot armor ... There is your answer 😏
@LeonRoss-lf8qo
@LeonRoss-lf8qo 7 күн бұрын
Does it cause Logan drinking beer and smoking??
@treytechie
@treytechie Ай бұрын
Profoundly disappointed at the writers WEAK choice to choose something as absurd as adamantium poison - as a pathetic character development.
@David-cz9ej
@David-cz9ej Ай бұрын
Why did they infuse his whole skeleton? Why not only the claws?
@reallyraynell
@reallyraynell 7 ай бұрын
I Love Wolverine, Sounds like a realistic power I could deal with. Just Mix in some magic 🪄 & BAM 💥, Wolverine is immortal. You’re welcomed.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
He always was immortal. No magic involved, just science.
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 Ай бұрын
@@kiillabytezReal life science is that the more cell divisions a cell has undergone, the less effective it gets at replicating. So basically if you had superfast healing like Wolverine, in real life it would cause you to age really fast as well.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
@@KaosNova2 I guess that's why Logan looks like he's 500 years old then?
@shadeofshattered3
@shadeofshattered3 3 ай бұрын
Geez weapon x didn't know what they were doing they just acted on the first thought they had he was more dangerous without it but instead gave him a bunch of weaknesses
@CT-nb5lm
@CT-nb5lm 4 ай бұрын
I ot only reject this movie but hated it. Probably cause the comic was so good.
@darksaiyan4
@darksaiyan4 Ай бұрын
Its simple they were putting chemicals in food to try and cure mutants making all mutants weaker thats why his healing factor was so shit in that movie
@ashtonjackfanny
@ashtonjackfanny Ай бұрын
It sucks to be wolverine literally he should of found a way to get the metal out
@johnfic4751
@johnfic4751 Ай бұрын
The writing ✍️ killed Wolverine 😂
@user-ANDY1981
@user-ANDY1981 Ай бұрын
That director James mangold was ruined Wolverine movies!!
@Seppo2704
@Seppo2704 3 ай бұрын
So when he lost his healing factor in The Wolverine, he shouldn‘t have been able to use his Claws
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 Ай бұрын
He likely still could use them without the healing, but the claws cut through his skin just to extend, so he would have bad bleeding out if the healing was reduced.
@Seppo2704
@Seppo2704 Ай бұрын
@@KaosNova2 Yes thats what I meant. But It‘s a superhero Movie so I accept that😂
@ratatoskrgodtroll6198
@ratatoskrgodtroll6198 Ай бұрын
OK, I’ve pointed this out a couple of different times and the old man Logan movie he was not poisoned by Adam Antum they talk about it in the movies the stuff that they’re putting in the corn the stuff that they’re adding to food and how they were eliminating mutants, but nobody seem to notice that nobody seem to think that they were intentionally implying that the big agriculture was mitigating the mutant response within the population. It was obviously a political boy talking about something that was pretty obvious that’s going on in this country today
@KaosNova2
@KaosNova2 Ай бұрын
His healing degraded, then the Adamantium inhibited it the rest of the way. Put in mind Adamantium would constrict the rest of your body healing because it would constrict marrow in your bones, and the marrow allows for the replenishment of your other bodily cells due to the bone marrow being pluripotent. Your blood, skin, organs, etc, need bone marrow to heal. Wolverine would have a major advantage but with his regeneration brought down, he would start having his own body reduced because he wouldn’t have as much bone marrow getting out of the bones
@johnarcher9480
@johnarcher9480 3 ай бұрын
The science of Adamantium has nothing to do with them poisoning Wolverine. The actor is simply getting too old to play Wolverine so they had to come up with some strange storyline where he suddenly started aging at the same rate as normal humans. One of the dumbest ways they have destroyed a character.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
Like I've always said, politics. Old Man Logan was a What If story line. In all other X-titles, Wolverine is still alive and shredding foes to this day. The OML story was so popular, Fox decided to make a movie about it. Now that Wolverine is part of the X-Men, and X-Men is part of the MCU, (and Disney) the movie Deadpool and Wolverine exists. Therefore, the OML story is NOT canon.
@916009
@916009 6 ай бұрын
i don't think marvel or anyone else considers this canon.
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
Only reason the theory exists is because of OML, a one-off story line.
@mr_beezlebub3985
@mr_beezlebub3985 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how Wolverine's body would react to vibranium if that were the metal used to cover his skeleton.
@orlandobritt1460
@orlandobritt1460 3 ай бұрын
he take less blunt force
@caiusmadison2996
@caiusmadison2996 Ай бұрын
​@orlandobritt1460 the vibrations when struck being so close to vital organs would produce mental issues like a seizure in most, or heart attacks for others as the vibrations released when vibranium is hit, are immense. The Shockwave are part of attacks later on in films. This wouldn't work for this simple reason that most lifeforms would have multiple system failures from the vibranium working as intended/predicted. They'd be strong as possible otherwise however weakened in general from the afflictions it causes.
@francissobotka8725
@francissobotka8725 Ай бұрын
He was poisoned by the food that made mutants extinct.
@SourSpaceMan
@SourSpaceMan Ай бұрын
And the metal too, his healing factor is keeping the poison at bay
@kiillabytez
@kiillabytez Ай бұрын
No, he was poisoned by bad writing.
@user-sw4kb1lr5c
@user-sw4kb1lr5c 11 ай бұрын
I would like to have it.
@h_h03
@h_h03 Ай бұрын
now thats just lazy writing
@Skinhound
@Skinhound Ай бұрын
It’s toxic. Just saved you 9 minutes and 39 seconds
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