Vikings: Odin with us Abderahman II: hold my zamzam

Fun fact : the Vikings who remained in al andalus ( emirate of Cordoba) were making cheese later

There was a story about the viking raid of sevilla. Some vikings got captured, converted and became cheesemakers.

I find it hard to believe that the moors where actually "black", they may have been darker than Europeans...I'm pretty sure black in medieval terms is noot the same as black in modern term...after all, they were mostly north African from the Maghrebs, not Subsaharan Africans.

i don't think that the Muslims in Andalusia were actually black cuz alot of sources said that the natives also converted to islam, black probably meant something different in these old languages than the modern term "black"

The Viking-Muslim interaction in the Viking series was extremely inaccurate. The Vikings only managed to reach the outskirts of Seville and were able to attack or burn down coastal towns. The news spread to Scandinavia, and one of the largest Viking fleets was amassed. Vikings landed in Western Spain but were defeated. The Viking fleet tried to cross the straits but was burned down by the Andalusian fleet.

Thank you for pronouncing "Muslim" correctly.

Lovely stuff mate. I’ve been reading a lot about Vikings in Iberia recently.. It makes so much sense as Andalusia was incredibly rich. The effective resistance of the local rulers also explains why only relatively few expeditions went back there in comparison to the rest of Western Europe.

Lol is it weird that i'm muslim and decendant of norwegian . Most people did tho . Most mock me for not being christian . I replied "since when scandinavia viking is christian nation" . Most answer through conversion . Then is it wrong for me to be a muslim then .

When they said north Africans where black they ment that they had dark hair and dark eyes just like southern Europeans in the UK they call people black that have dark hair or dark eyes or both together

Algericas in Andalusian Arabic = Al-Jazeera Sevilla = Ish-billya

Of course a Viking hero teller would exaggerate about their successes. We do however have a proven account that 9 Andalusian Lancers routed a Viking raiding party of 20 ships.

الي عربي او مسلم لايك

Hey Hilbert! I speak Russian, read Ukrainian and Belarus if you want me to translate sources for I can! I've been studying the Rus for a long time.

Both had badass armies, liked gold, and had baller boats. They definitely did business, had a lot they could talk about.

I find it very hard to believe that the moors where what we today consider "black".

peace -from a muslim

When the vikings reached modern day Spain they raided the city and it was a surprise attack and left with treasure then they went back and the military was ready since they surprised them the last time and it ended up really bad for the vikings which made them flee

(insert joke about immigrants in Sweden here)

8:58 - the Rus definitely did go themselves to Bagdad, they had no need for middle-men. Many accounts state Scandinavian and Slavic merchants of the Rus as sailing through the Caspian Sea, and then continuing on land to Bagdad.

لقد سحقوهم المسلمين ‘ أتو الى أسبانيا عندما كانت للمسلمين ٥٠ سفينه ودمروها المسلمين وبقى ١٥ سفينه فقط وبعد بضعة شهور عادو وأعتذرو .

I may be wrong, but I read it on good authority that the ‘blue men’ related to their clothing as the Berber and North African tribes were known to wear blue clothing.( As indeed the Tuareg still do). The Irish for black or dark is Dubh. As the name Douglas translates as dark foreigner for a Danish Viking and Fingal for a Norwegian Viking, as the Danes were darker haired on average.

Those days we hammered those who mocks us, but now.... *TOO MUCH KEYBOARD WARRIORS*

The bird on the thumbnail is from a flag called the hravnsmerki. It's supposed to represent Odinn, his crows/ravens (not necessarily huginn & muninn), and death to one's enemies on the battlefield because corvids are carrion birds. The flag is told to promise victory, but defeat would surely come to whoever takes down the banner. The raven was only used in wartime. During peacetime the banner was plain white. That's what I've gathered from reading about the symbol so far anyways. I might be a bit off though. It'd be cool to learn more about it :)

I'm curious as to where did the " Hannibal of the Highlands " Video went, as it was only up for perhaps 2 hours or so..?

It is said (by they themselves), that the Norse preferred fighting against Arabs/Saracens/Moors/Blåmenn/whateveryouwanttocallthem than Englishmen (Anglo-Saxons). The reason for this was that one Norseman was only worth 3 Arabs in battle, while one Norseman was worth a whole 10 Englishmen. So they preferred fighting Arabs, as they proved more of a challenge... fighting the English was 'too easy'. I can't remember the source, some book or another, I'll try and find it later. (in the Sagas, the Norwegians also referred to the Danes as 'Soft Danes'... who had no bravery in them, and the Swedes as 'Weak Swedes'... who were better suited to making animal sacrifices than battle) *edit* try not to get triggered peeps, that was just their personal opinion about themselves.

‘Played these games with dedication most youngsters wouldn’t understand…’. Well 2500 hours in eu4 and 700 in ck2 says otherwise

Two questions: 1) The Irish & Frank's mentioned that joined the raid to Iberia & N. Africa, were they ethnically Irish & Frankish, or Scandinavians that settled in those areas? 2) Does anyone know of genetic markers of Mauritians (sp?) in modern Irish or Scandinavians?

Andaluz, the land of the Vandals. I have been to Algeciras y Gibraltar 🇬🇮 Good work ☆☆☆

The Moors were mostly Arabs with a handful of Berbers and Bantus in there regiments and units

I saw a documentary once called "The Longships " and the vikings and muslims became friends and went on a treasure hunt. It would be interesting to see if there is a noticeable maghreb/sub Saharan component in the DNA of people in Ireland. Great video!

William of Orange connected them through the power of epic ness and badass patriotism of the Netherlands!

G E K O L O N I S E E R D

VIKINGS: we are fearless Warriors Muslims: Hold My ZamZam

Hi Hilbert I’m a big fan and I need some advice. I want to create my own KZfaq channel specifically on British History but am unsure how to conduct the presentation. What do you use to make your videos and what advice could you give.

You did a really great job at trying to speak Irish there. I'm impressed, but you don't need that accent. Irish is wayyyyyyyy easier go pronounce than you think. "Fir" is said like "Fear/furr" you nailed the séimhiú in for me however. Nice job and thanks for trying our language. Much respect x

Those 'Mauretanians' called 'black men' were Berbers or Maghrebi Arabs, and they were called 'black' due to their dark colour of the hair and eyes. The term still remains in use in Ireland, where Irish people with black hair (like Colin Farrel) are called Black Irish, although mostly by outsiders.

Did you know that the almoravids king of north africa had viking guards.

Thx for sharing. You have a nice knowledge in history. Great work!

Please do Greek settlers to Spain now you have mentioned it, many thanks bro! Love your channel!

Vikings also came in contact with Persians (and also Turkmens) after sailing the Volga river down to the Caspian Shores!

Interesting to have two so different cultures meet each other

Great Video! But small comment on the ad : I have no problem with ads, but it this one didn't feel great. Sound quality went down on it and the placement felt odd. It really didn't feel smooth, and I feel it could have been better.

Hey I really dig your videos but you pop the mic a lot. Want any help with that? I know a real easy audio effect you could apply to fix that up quite a bit.

I was expecting the comments to be about Sweden hurrddurr muslims but instead it’s rather nice! What a nice community you’ve made here!

I disagree with your characterisation of the Umayyad and Abbasid caliphate, the biggest difference is the transformation of a largely ethno-religiously dominated empire where Arab Muslims occupied all the important positions and made up the army into one where converts were accepted and could rise to any position. The shift in centre of gravity from the Mediterranean littoral to Baghdad and continental Asia is also important. On colours in Old Norse check out Jackson Crawford's channel, he frequently remarks on them in source material, unsurprising as he did his PhD thesis on the subject.

Ik heet Henrik. I am learning dutch btw, very interesting language and an easy one as I already know German and is very similiar. Anyway great video

Great video as always, I'm a new sub now wooooop

Pretty impressive to think that the vikings settled in almost every part of the world in these ages. Excluding Oceania and most of Asia, of course.

since my paternal grandfather is an islander Swede--I know they went through the Russian rivers to help establish such minor cities as Moscow and Kiev and made it to Constantiople and were popular as bodyguards to the emperor and were known as the Varangian guard

Hilbert, what happened to the video about the Marquess of Montrose?

Before I watch guess: Probably when they explored the volga and came into contact with them in the red sea or while in service with the varangian guard.

I am very excited for your upcoming videos on the Rus'. There are lots of good sources for usage, such as the monumental compilation of almost all versions of the Primary Chronicle by Donald G. Ostrowski of the Harvard Ukrainian Research Institute, or *_The Origin of Rus'_ by Omeljan Pritsak*, one of the best monographs written on the Rus' in my opinion. Of course, if you ever need any help translating something from Ukrainian or Russian or Belarusian, you know you have us to contact for help, and probably a bunch of resources are present in Cambridge (I know there is a Ukrainian Studies centre at Cambridge, they could get you a whole ton of sources if you are looking for them). But regardless, I do hope that whatever you end up doing, you don't end up falling into the trap of equating the Rus' with modern Russia. I also would love to see you use the Varangian names for these cities - Holmgård instead of modern Russian Novgorod, etc. I feel that today there isn't enough attention paid to the Varangian language and mother tongue of the Rus' Varangians :)

Omg the comments nearly destroyed my brain. How could people think so gibberish!!!!

Hilbert a posté deux vidéos dans une heure? Incroyable... C’est encore Noël évidement!!!! Dia dhuit hilbert! Ciarán is ainm dom! J’espère que vous allez bien et vos études sont pas trop dur!

1:41 You sounded just like a Scandinavian when you said that name! 👍 Greetings from Norway!

It should be noted that when you see ancient and medieval descriptions, we cannot take everything at face value, especially when describing people's skin by a colour, since even now we are not accurate with it (even the fairest Scandinavian isn't literally white, and the Darkest Congolese isn't literally black). So most likely, all those all descriptions actually mean "dark", not black, and "dark" is of course, relative. A Turk could be considered "dark" by a Norwegian, but the same Turk would be considered "fair" for a Pakistani, in the same way, a Pakistani might be considered "fair" by a Congolese. Its all relative. The average Moor was clearly darker than the average European, but were they "black" in the modern sense? I don't think so, there is far too little evidence to support that, and too much evidence against it. The people of the Maghreb were consistently described and depicted as "Mediterranean" looking throughout history, both the romans and the greeks made a clear distinction between the "Libyans" and the "Maurians" (greek and latin word for North Africans) compared to the Ethiopians, which were much darker. The argument of etymology which claims the word Moor comes from the greek word mahur (black) also falls apart because greeks called them Lybians, the word Moor comes from the Latin word Maurus, meaning from Mauretania, meaning "land of the western sun". Medieval illustrations of the Reconquista portray the Moors ranging from as pale as the Christians, to brown, but never with a dark-brown colour of the Sub-Saharan people. And they were also not adressed as such. The black portrayal of moors only begins In the 16th century onwards with the discovery age when Iberians started calling every muslim or hindu people they encountered as "moor" (moor=the enemy: reconquista mentality) and the rest of Europe started to portray every non-European as dark as possible to propagate this eurocentric idea of the Europeans being unique and very different from all the other "non-white" peoples. The Spaniards and the Portuguese inquisitions had to conduct thorough investigations of many people's ancestors to determine if they were Moorish or not, this means that some moors could pass as native Iberians, this can only mean the Moors had a Mediterranean phenotype, if they were black they would stand out like a sore thumb even with several generations of mixing with whites. I mean how could modern Maghrebi people go from black to white/brown in a few hundred years without massive migration and genocide? The average native Arabian actually looks darker than the average native Amazigh Berber. Now were there Black people among the moors? Very possible, afterall the Arabs did transversed the Sahara and contacted the Sub-Saharan africans, so its very possible that some sub-saharan found their way (or were take) north. But native Berbers were definitely not Black.

in algeria we still describe the brown skin color as bleu so they meant brown not black just like normal Arab's skin color

Came from your comment on Black Betty lmao.... Interesting channel man :)

Just want to point out the fact that BLUE is a traditional color in the northwestern part of Africa. I don't think the vikings neccesarily referred to skin color when it comes to the naming of these foreigners. It's quite possible they gained the name due to their garment and trade of such material,- and the dye color of blue.

By the Gods, I hope we don't draw in THAT KZfaq crowd here with that title. You guys know what I'm talking about

The 13th warrior movie of course 🤔🤔

*FROM WIKIPEDIA* The Viking raid on Išbīliya, then part of the Umayyad Emirate of Córdoba, took place in 844. After raiding the coasts of what are now Spain and Portugal, a Viking fleet arrived in Išbīliya (nowadays Seville) through the Guadalquivir on 25 September, and took the city on 1 or 3 October. The Vikings pillaged the city and the surrounding areas. Emir Abd ar-Rahman II of Córdoba mobilised and sent a large force against the Vikings under the command of the hajib (chief-minister) Isa ibn Shuhayd. After a series of indecisive engagements, the Muslim army defeated the Vikings on either 11 or 17 November. Seville was retaken, and the remnants of the Vikings fled Spain. After the raid, the Muslims raised new troops and built more ships and other military equipment to protect the coast. The quick military response in 844 and the subsequent defensive improvements discouraged further attacks by the Vikings.

Its funny that although you live in England i can hear it in your voice that you are Dutch for some reason, i think it is because i recognize the sound of your voice since lots of Dutch people sound like you.

The thing about Vikings is their ability of surprise attacks, their battle win rate is really high when they surprise or ambush enemies. That's why they won in Andalousia in the Vikings series for example, but in history, when they came back this time for Moroccan territory, they were smashed by the Berbers because there wasn't any surprise. But thankfully, after the battle they kept trading together and developped bonds, that's why some Moroccans are sons and daughters of Vikings. Along with many other nations

This is a quite biased interpretation of the interactions that went about between Muslims and Vikings, as there have been numerous occasions where the Moors utterly destroyed entire fleets of Vikings, but it is still a decent enough video to watch.

Just a small correction. The account of Viking funerals giving by Ibn Fadlan describes the boat carrying the chieftain as being set on a pyre or scaffold on the shore, they didn't push the burning boat out into the water. Good video otherwise.

i'm from north africa (algeria) and we also use the word blue (zerag) often to describe people with darker skin i always wondered why

"British and Irish Isles!" YES! THANK YOU.

Moors were Arabs and North Africans who looked like Arabs and spoke Arabic and also some.very dark skinned semites from places like mauretania and black soldiers fighting for the caliphate. Sad truth is that black Muslims were mostly employed as soldiers only and did not consist a big part of Moorish society and population itself.

The thing is that the swedish went trough Russia and to constantinople. Bjorn Ironside was also swedish btw. Russ also means rower in old norse. Because the vikings rowed in the rivers.

Two Hilbert videos today?? Must be my lucky day, but why did the Marquis of Montrose video get pulled?

*And the Dutch* *Oh no, what have I done* You sir, you are my hero

As a Dane, I still love that the UK has a town named "Grimsby". 🤣

Firstly, the Muslims were not so weak. Rather, they were very strong. You can search in the books that the Muslims had taken over half of the planet. Secondly, the Vikings are true that they killed people in this city, but he had heard of this the king of the Muslims. He has brought down 40 ships out of 60 ships and their altar has come to such an extent that the Vikings signed a truce with Muslims that they would never come to this region .. I hope the writer does not mock the courage of Muslims, I am sorry if there are mistakes, I use a translator

improved audio. Good.👍

you should do a video about the Heimosodat

They have no problem meeting them now

Ragnall is the Anglo-Saxon interpretation of Ragnar, as most of the Christian monasteries in Ireland were established by Anglo-Saxons. In fact modern English preserves it as Reginald, Randall, and Ronald. It’s funny because my foster brother’s name is Ronald, he has a half-brother named Randall.

I live in Algeria (North Africa) and there's a small city in the upper plateaus there are a group of big family who are all very white with blue eyes, they seem to be there for long time for they own lot of Land.

Why do people still say "Spain" when they mean Iberian Peninsula. That is so XIX century.

All hail the Dutch,

I really liked the intro 🇳🇱 💪

Was there any contact between vikings and the Asturians?

(insert Sweden's immigrants joke here)

carolingians when?

Very true. It was the Danes that went to Muslim lands... They traded silk.

Don't forget that the Normans conquered Arab Sicily in the 1000s. I don't know if most historians count the Normans as classical Viking or more French by that point in time.

"Blue People" you say? _Aliens_ XD

Ivar the boneless brought me here.

The Norwegian crusade was the very first with a European king who went on crusade. It has been completely forgotten but it was actually the 2 Crusade. The Crusade 1147-1149 is actually the 3 Crusade. Vikings from Norway not the weak Danes. www.revolvy.com/page/Norwegian-Crusade

Abasi caliphate quickly broke up in smaller kingdoms and first part to get away was Iran or Persia which established the Abbasids, to begin with. In Caspian sea, because they were Muslims it doesn't mean they were necessarily Arabs but rather Persians. Actually, a study By a Swedish university shows that Vikings came down the Volga into Capsian sea then Iran and in Iran, they purchased steel which they produced with high quality. This steel was taken back to Scandinavia for the famous Viking sword which had much higher quality compared to other European swords of the time. Iranian Merchants regularly traveled north and engaged in trade with the Vikings, including purchasing slaves.

Walpole, it was Walpole. Sorry, wrong channel

the "peaceful" abbasids. Tell that to Abu Muslim, who killed over 100000 in the Abbasid rebellion.

This was fascinating! Can't wait for the Rus episodes.

What about Ibrahim ibn yaqub and his journeys? He also traveled to haithabu.

In Hollywood Vikings wins. But in real life Muslims of course

That scholar sent by the caliphate to the vikings, there is a movie about it, right? The 13th warrior?

There is no difference in this context about "the western side" of Norway and Norway in general. There was just as many people from the inland that was raiding as it was people from the coast, even if most of the towns was build along the cost. The same goes for Sweden. It was the culture, not the geography that decided this.. And the culture in land was exact the same as on the coast. For the same reason, all that lived inland had it as a duty to come to any coastal city that was under attack to help to defend it. The Viking name for Africans (North Africa) was "bluemen" We are not 100% sure why, but it is known that Africans in that part of Africa often used blue paint on their clothes and that also coloured their skin blue after some time.. So it was most probably not because the dark skin, but because they actually was blue.. ;)

Darn! I just realized I forgot to watch the face reveal! Good to see ya chap!