How Do You Get Paid For Songwriting? Chad Kroeger Of Nickelback Explains

How Do You Get Paid For Songwriting? Chad Kroeger Of Nickelback Explains | Bussin' With The Boys

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@BarstoolSportsTV Жыл бұрын

Full interview: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n6t9iM2BldeydJ8.html

@SnuggieMaple 4 ай бұрын

@tadracket448 Жыл бұрын

There are two types of people in this world, those who love Nickelback and those who are lying.

@cldeltanion9187 Жыл бұрын

Guys take his advice, he's telling us to look at this GRAPPPHHHHHH

@brycesandberg3071 Жыл бұрын

Well done 👍 😅

@andreabuzzolan9807 Жыл бұрын

Penthagram

@Breakingthesilence0522 11 ай бұрын

Hahahahah😂😂

@anronylapierre-jt2ku Жыл бұрын

A very concise and accurate statement. I’m impressed!

@bofadeeznuts469 Жыл бұрын

Glad you approve of the tens of millions of records sold artist lol 🤡

@robyndismon394 Жыл бұрын

WHY are you impressed?

@anronylapierre-jt2ku Жыл бұрын

@@robyndismon394 why your, ‘why?’

@robyndismon394 Жыл бұрын

@@anronylapierre-jt2ku again. Why are you impressed. It's as simple as that.

@davemattera Жыл бұрын

If they don’t use any of his ideas does he say “ok, I take 0 points” l doubt it

@wastelander138 Жыл бұрын

The band gave a writing credit to their drum tech for "How You Remind Me" because he suggested the slight pause before the chorus near the end of the song.

@steeevmartinho Жыл бұрын

The idea of the “Nashville Split” is that there’s no unnecessary people in the room. That means if you’re there, you’re there for a reason.

@bryanfouts287 Жыл бұрын

This is a class act. As someone who’s helped write plenty of songs impromptu in studio and because it wasn’t my initial idea never got any piece of publishing but yet hear stuff I played on all the time on various media platforms…. it’s nice to know that not everyone is just in it for themselves

@soniandukwe8981 Жыл бұрын

How you remind me is still a BOP

@matthewbailey8588 Жыл бұрын

They have a whole list of good songs not just one

@JoshDickens850 Жыл бұрын

TILL THIS DAY

@stickstigley Жыл бұрын

I will always believe "Flat on the Floor" is a great song

@ashtheviking5007 Жыл бұрын

They may or may not have good music, I don't know. Why? Because the radio killed most peoples interest by playing one song to death. I cannot change a station faster even if pop music is playing. Radio is all but dead, killed by the idiots running radio.

@ganglezz Жыл бұрын

regardless of the nickelback hate, the dudes seem real asf

@unicornpoo7441 Жыл бұрын

I mean yeah they are one of the richest in the rock scene they're clearly doing something right and they did a dope metallica cover once

@darthandeddeu Жыл бұрын

I don't like his output. But I respect how open he is on business matters and his process on writing.

@torstenpearson1996 Жыл бұрын

Literally never heard him talk before this video is super interesting

@rykerallen382 Жыл бұрын

Dude is cool as F_CK too. Anytime he comes through the airport, he stops and says hi. He remembers my name every time.

@gena4638 3 ай бұрын

Agreed. Dude can write, play instruments and he has a good voice. Now we also know he knows a lot about the business side of things. All of these together...they deserve their success.

@NOTAGOVTAGENT Жыл бұрын

I always wondered how this worked with big groups.

@thomandstacieverroad8417 Жыл бұрын

Except nobody will write with you if you tell them that they're going to get paid by the word. He's living in a fantasy. I know lots of Nashville song writers and have written with Craig Martin (rip) who helped write Tim McGraw's don't take the girl and my wife's mother laverna moore (rip) sang (and wrote) background on dozens of country hits in the 70's and 80's (still getting those checks) and if you sat down and wrote not one word that made it to the final cut there's no way to say if ideas you bounced around didn't contribute. That's why you rarely see a country hit that was written by just one writer. And being the #1 music listened to today it's hard to argue with the methods they use .

@HughMungus4655 Жыл бұрын

this guy is outlining exactly how you have a group break up and people stop working with you i guarantee he always maneuvers his way around with "well i did (x) which was more important so i get more money" assholes in music dont make it very far unless theyre chuck berry. the "write a word get a third" isnt really a meme, its a way to prevent arguments over money money arguments get in the way of the music, every artist knows this. i know the nickleback artists are really good (better than their reputation) but i probably wouldnt go out of my way to work with this guy if i set up shop in nashville

@randomdudehere4828 Жыл бұрын

I agree..wonder how Slipknot and those bigger groups do it.. jeez that’s a lot ways to split one check

@HughMungus4655 Жыл бұрын

@@randomdudehere4828 not all of them are songwriters

@Christopher.Charles Жыл бұрын

Sometimes, having the right people around to create the right vibe, is worth it to me… even if they didn’t play or write a single note or lyric…

@nicksilver_music Жыл бұрын

Imagine being in the band that became so popular they became a living breathing meme 😂

@Stop_arguing_with_strangers Жыл бұрын

It kept them relevant and made them a shitload of money soooo….

@Retsamad Жыл бұрын

@@Stop_arguing_with_strangers Its the same reason why I don't mind people memeing on Linkin Park. It keeps them talking about the band.

@ThirteenAmp Жыл бұрын

No publicity is bad publicity They've been one of the most well known bands for years now because of it

@commiehunter733 Жыл бұрын

Very important and explained well

@jacobcarter-tucker1791 Жыл бұрын

I imagine the 5 guys in there taking notes of all the things they added to the song to justify their percentage.

@SeanLaMontagne Жыл бұрын

Yeah this idea of his doesn't really lend it self to being unbiased and unfair discrepancies in pay.

@richardpuckett8127 Жыл бұрын

What he is saying about publishing and song writing. Is 100% correct. And professionally paid musicians do keep track of songs they cowrote.

@micahgerdis1008 Жыл бұрын

And that is probably the biggest reason successfully bands break up...one or two members take all the money..

@theclimbto1 Жыл бұрын

Or, another view, one or two members carry the others. I'm sure we can find examples of both.

@jacetiller3156 Жыл бұрын

@@theclimbto1 No, he’s right. The writer on a song is additionally paid out for his lyrics. There’s no reason not to contribute the lyrics of a song to all band members and pick up the bag. Otherwise the money is just going back into an exploitive system.

@theclimbto1 Жыл бұрын

@@jacetiller3156 I get Royalties. Depending on the system you are in, I'm in BMI, you're either on a 50/50 or a 100/100 Scale... yes, I know those are literally the same thing but that's how these systems show them. So you put your Writers on on side and they split that part. Those that didn't contribute to lyrics get put on the other side. Those that contribute to both, are on both sides. Since I write the songs and I bring in the people that perform, I take 100% of the Writing side. I give them 100% of the Performing side. There are no 'rules' to who gets how much, that's decided between the individuals participating... but once that's sent in, it is what it is.

@MagnumMuscle1000 Жыл бұрын

I think you mean "earn" the money by writing the songs.

@Mewse1203 Жыл бұрын

One or two members do all the work and the others want to be paid equally

@brandenward3730 Жыл бұрын

He actually looks and sounds like a human being in this video wow

@hootie6787 Жыл бұрын

Ai has come a long way

@robyndismon394 Жыл бұрын

You actually could pass for a human with a slightly venomous point of view

@TheTantan1111 Жыл бұрын

When the door dash guy delivered their lunch “Hey I was in the room when they were brainstorming. Where’s my cut?”

@stephjovi Жыл бұрын

I watched the interview today. So for context, enticement, because That's how they convivced Daniel to leave 3Doors Down and join Nickelback

@brettadkins7563 Жыл бұрын

Hahahaha, that shit is funny.

@brettadkins7563 Жыл бұрын

Beato

@joesimon2018 Жыл бұрын

That one guy in Cheap Trick pretty much owns the other 3 guys based on this

@oso_nomada Жыл бұрын

Wait. There’s a Chad in Nickleback? That’s prophecy shit right there folks!

@nicksilver_music Жыл бұрын

I disagree, I mean write your stuff alone if it's all about keeping all the profit for yourself, it's more of a community effort in Nashville, and not limited to that, alot of rappers use this same "say a word get a third" rule in the song writing world.

@JamesSClapperton Жыл бұрын

That’s right. And that’s what features and points ahead of time are for. If you want to write in the studio, prepare to pay contributors.

@enjoythemomenttravel 11 ай бұрын

An honest guy willing to give an honest answer... & be honest & fair with others... you are blessed for your goodness... people hate on good honest people when they speak the truth! Luv you always!

@stephenlyons8589 Жыл бұрын

This exactly why I love bands that said " NOPE , I will just start my own label " or just do everything in house. It skips the 50 people that somehow now own your music. Bands like , NOFX and Tom Macdonald they have the right adea.

@TaraConti Жыл бұрын

Silver side up was released 9/11/2001 Part of my plans for that day were to pick up that CD…

@user-nj1zu2nf1x Жыл бұрын

Quality hair plugs right there !

@sjbachar15 Жыл бұрын

This deserves more likes

@stephens2663 Жыл бұрын

Bro….. wayyyy more guys out there have hair plugs than we will ever actually know…. Just start looking for ‘em

@user-nj1zu2nf1x Жыл бұрын

@@stephens2663 once you start noticing you see everybody's. Especially the bad ones. I'd give his a7 out of 10. I've seen better though. What's his name that played Ari Gold, now that was pure magic

@chuyistheshiz6811 Жыл бұрын

Looks good on him.

@efisgpr Жыл бұрын

Stallone: "FUCK...."

@PennyBoyer-bu4sw 8 ай бұрын

I agree. You work, you get paid. Chad has a good business sense.

@MokuNui808 Жыл бұрын

That's chad kroeger?? Damn it's like a different person all together!! Wow looks good!!

@williammorales8204 Жыл бұрын

Sounds greedy, considering one hook line can literally be the main attraction. Love the one you're with, rock me amadeus, every kiss song , well not just them but even more so today like YEET!

@ThirdCoastGems Жыл бұрын

Wholeheartedly Agree.

@samuelcarder7771 Жыл бұрын

Billy Corgan speaks to this and how it breeds resentment among band mates when the money come pouring in 4x for songwriting members.

@MrKnew Жыл бұрын

I wish I could sit in these rooms and help. I know everybody would laugh, but I really wish I could have a chance.

@mrboss9619 Жыл бұрын

you can get in a studio with the most hopeless potential, you just have to try harder lil bro

@Kendell062 Жыл бұрын

The songwriters in the band getting those royalty checks on top of the money they're getting from performing are the biggest reason for bands breaking up.

@WhiteNorth Жыл бұрын

Great artist

@willk1063 Жыл бұрын

The reason that ‘Write a word get a third’ exists is that it avoids the age old nastiness that follows financial disagreements should anyone not see eye to eye. Cut in everyone who’s in the room and you’ve got a group of people 10x more functional and productive than one that can’t progress with the project because they’re too busy nitpicking each other’s individual inputs.

@rennatsinned5451 Жыл бұрын

Look at this graph!!!

@cletus0812 10 күн бұрын

The amount of songs that Chad has written is insane.

@timothycampbell9994 Жыл бұрын

Played drums in Nashville from 73 to 84 played on over 200 tunes and only got paid for sessions only songwriter and publisher got royalties and your entertainment attorney, hope you have a good one when you pen your publisher

@calebjosephcountry Жыл бұрын

Totally agree. If there’s three guys in a room and only two of them contribute anything of significance, they should be the ones making the cash

@calebjosephcountry Жыл бұрын

@@jacetiller3156 He was discussing writing credits here. Radio plays only generate money for those that have their name on the songwriters list. That doesn’t really have anything to do with the label besides whatever cut of the royalties each writer has agreed to give to their label or publishing company. So while I understand the labels are exploitative (sometimes), that’s not really the issue I was addressing. My point was just that someone shouldn’t get paid for just being in the room

@fcensoredk1556 Жыл бұрын

@Jace Tiller they aren't paying more for more people just dividing check between more people

@anthonyluangphasi8800 Жыл бұрын

@@jacetiller3156 ... Imagine the payment is $100, but 3 people are in the room, however only two people contribute to the work that generated that payment. The payment doesn't magically become 200 or 300 lol. It becomes $50 for each of the two contributing individuals.

@isaiahcedillo9435 Жыл бұрын

I wonder why all these rappers have like 10 ppl in a studio

@JohnWiku Ай бұрын

You need all those people to churn shit 😂😂

@markgigiel2722 Жыл бұрын

Ringo: But I came up with the whole rhythm.

@valentinbehr7305 Жыл бұрын

but the songs were all there before that‘s the difference

@Taporeee Жыл бұрын

This is how he reminds us

@andrewsutton2266 Жыл бұрын

My cousin was a co-writer for the song hero back in the day. They held him up in court and eventually just paid him off with a guitar. Jipped him of so many royalties

@christurner910 Жыл бұрын

Josey Scott got screwed on that song.

@valentinbehr7305 Жыл бұрын

That‘s criminal.

@hsiitbaaa 7 ай бұрын

thats why he’s the goat🐐 i love chad😭🔥

@jayy2949 Жыл бұрын

Very nice!

@old.not.too.grumpy. Жыл бұрын

I was told there are two types of musicians the real one that do it for the love of music and performance and then the rest who do it for the money

@panguian23 Жыл бұрын

He had this talk with his band lol

@Malkumecks Жыл бұрын

That’s why for many years, Lars and James locked themselves in a room, came out and told Kirk and Jason what to play. Only when those 2 ran out of ideas and made a ton of money did they allow the other guys to pick up a pen.

@jargero8203 Жыл бұрын

Explain why you did what yall did to Joseph from Saliva in the song "Hero"????

@christurner910 Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@elizabethgeorge168 Жыл бұрын

Unrelated but, his hair looks *SO* much better short like this.

@michaelmcwhirter 4 ай бұрын

look at this graph! I like that song lol Grew up hearing it on long, open desert drives home with my dad on the radio. Thanks Chad Kroeger. 🛻🏜️🏡

@KatieAus-qm1fq 10 ай бұрын

Katie love you so much more Chad kroeger 💖☺️☺️☺️☺️💖💝💝☺️💖💝☺️💝💝☺️💖

@cs-7 2 ай бұрын

This is actually reasonable. Respect to this guy.

@christhovhannisyan2074 10 ай бұрын

This man has some magical Aura

@roberttrout1352 11 ай бұрын

Ive alwayed loved nickelback

@douglarsen4801 Жыл бұрын

Literally thought it was the interviewer at first, not Kroeger

@galiojusticejustice3191 Жыл бұрын

He's just reciting what they said in the chemical laboratory where they created Photograph

@matthewbailey8588 Жыл бұрын

And its still better than anything you will ever write in your entire life

@TylerWadleigh Жыл бұрын

@@matthewbailey8588what did he strike a nerve? Can’t have people make jokes about your precious nickelback?

@galiojusticejustice3191 Жыл бұрын

@@matthewbailey8588 bruh it's nickelback I've been writing better than them since I was 5 years old

@cynthiaforequity Жыл бұрын

Self employment is hard

@trentthomson9641 Жыл бұрын

That sounds nice until you disagree with how much somebody has contributed... then it sounds like a lawsuit

@diannecosta9491 Жыл бұрын

Chad ❤ lovely

@funkid500 Жыл бұрын

Beard line is the Nickelback of beard lines

@brandonsellers465 Жыл бұрын

Truth

@chimsey07 Жыл бұрын

Can you please Explain it on Layman's Term...Plz

@benjin0311 Жыл бұрын

He looks younger now than he did 20 years ago 😄

@fgialcgorge7392 Жыл бұрын

AGREE!

@user-jf5np3ym8b Жыл бұрын

💓💓💓

@dustinlapradd5456 Жыл бұрын

Hell must be freezing over: I appreciated something Nickelback has done...

@michaelsmyth3935 Жыл бұрын

Yep, However, if I have to take your riffs and progressions, and arrange everything, measure it out, write the Bass Line so it does not suck....I helped write it. I have had guitar players bring me bits and pieces, 20 hours later, they wrote it.

@valentinbehr7305 Жыл бұрын

no, that’s not writing, that‘s arranging and/or producing.

@seintmike7907 Жыл бұрын

Hey Chad, they say a hero can save us, get me in that room.

@sekuroz Жыл бұрын

I agree

@laceydevillier3922 Жыл бұрын

Aging like fine wine ❤

@EddiXP Жыл бұрын

Nickleback ain't bad. Everybody acted like they hated them for some reason but when we were growing up everyone loved them when they came out for like 10 years lol

@JamesSClapperton Жыл бұрын

Nope. Not everyone liked them. I was still a kid and I already knew better. It’s just radio rock. You cant blame people for listening to what’s being played 3x an hour for a year. Still doesn’t make it good.

@EddiXP Жыл бұрын

@@JamesSClapperton well the general consensus back then it was. Not everyone but the majority

@christianjames92 Жыл бұрын

Nickelback is pop rock and people rebeled against that for some reason, but Blink 182 got a pass for it.

@contraband1543 Жыл бұрын

@@JamesSClapperton It was on the radio because people were listening to it moron 😂 If no one wanted to hear it they wouldn't play it

@JamesSClapperton Жыл бұрын

@@EddiXP the majority of radio listeners and the general public that listens to music is very much not the same thing.

@TheChuckFina Жыл бұрын

The real money is in the publishing rights.

@artrichards1764 Жыл бұрын

guy seems like he enjoys the control more than anything else

@user-nq5ru3lz4o 17 күн бұрын

Greatest #1 Band in the world

@Teamoreo420 Жыл бұрын

Yo the KZfaq name is super AYO

@eluytop 9 күн бұрын

I feel like dax Shepard has a second life

@cb8692 Жыл бұрын

confirms that nickleback is hollywood PRODUCED

@lloydhinshelwood Жыл бұрын

Easy for a lead singer to say this depends on your leverage songwriting shares are complicated political games

@paulgush Жыл бұрын

And this must be why Nickelback has the BEST songs!

@willkavanaugh Жыл бұрын

Still rocking Nickelback 🇨🇦

@KyleBBN Жыл бұрын

Imagine Slipknot with 9 members.

@jazzprince4447 Жыл бұрын

Fair

@RolandDeschain1 Жыл бұрын

This is why so many bands break up. More than girls or drugs. It's resentment over certain band members making way more money because of publishing royalties. It's a brave band that is willing to split everything evenly, and I'm sure it makes for a band that is much happier in the long run.

@rogeriaiara1887 Жыл бұрын

Eles foram quatro com suas alterações e são quatro na mesma formação a muitos anos e cada um tem seu lugar sempre e é por isso que aí estão respeito gera respeito!!!❤❤❤❤

@Isaac-ys8pu Жыл бұрын

I’d want to see a little more control. I’d imagine whoever is deciding who gets what percentage, has a bias to give everyone as little as possible. Idk though. I didn’t watch the whole interview.

@ScootsFromNewCastle Жыл бұрын

That seems like a logical idea to me.

@NewWorldCT Жыл бұрын

I agree completely. I write songs in free-time and they have to be sung in the way that I wrote it. Whether you sound a little different doesn't matter, but words are words on paper. The words in your soul is where the music is. Completely agree with him.

@JohnWiku Ай бұрын

So basically you need to look at this Graaaaaaph to find your point of contribution vs share 😂😂

@my_youtube_name7938 Жыл бұрын

Best band ever! 😂😆🤣

@tyfrey_ 8 ай бұрын

Better idea. Lose the ego and split it all four ways

@talianun3259 Жыл бұрын

I always thought Nicholas Cage was the lead singer smh

@ibassnote Жыл бұрын

Ok but who decides “significant contribution”? I’ve been cut out of almost everything I’ve recorded by people who don’t consider a choice modulation a contribution…

@valentinbehr7305 Жыл бұрын

That‘s really misfortune.