How Far Can I SEND IT on a 300mm OLD SCHOOL BIKE?

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6 ай бұрын

Old School 300mm suspension and frame vs modern 200mm bikes, which can go farther?
Riding the Whistler Bike park today, there is a big drop on Clown Shoes that I want to send it far on!
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@JordanBoostmaster 3 ай бұрын

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@_Tuzoh_ 6 ай бұрын

you should go to a custom frame builder and make a custom frame for the boostmonster

@Offlineozzy 6 ай бұрын

As I was watching the video I was thinking the same thing

@ytmike100 6 ай бұрын

I wonder if you could get custom lowers too for a bigger wheel. I know you're a 26 guy but if you're considering going custom with the frame, why not custom with the fork too? 10/10 content as usual

@howedy 6 ай бұрын

You should speak to Alex at Archibald. His steel AC1 frame might work!

@michaelmulligan5808 6 ай бұрын

@@ytmike100those lowers still have a good bit of clearance I bet you could squeeze a 27.5 wheel in there. But the axle to crown is already so long so trying to get a proper head tube angle without a crazy high bb height would be tough and a bigger wheel would make that even trickier!

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

@@ytmike100 you can already fit a 27.5" wheel in these forks anyways!

@icantgivecredit871 6 ай бұрын

I love seeing regular content featuring a vintage bike, not that one-off stuff one tends to see.

@MarvinWestmaas 6 ай бұрын

Sick 3rd person shots again Jordan! And it's not in portrait 🤘 I love the boostmonster content, and it's nice to see you directly compare it to a more modern bike.

@TheCraigy83 6 ай бұрын

80's to 2000's was a massive change but 2005 to now 2023 is not even worth mentioning weve peaked. everything has stagnated / got pushed in the wrong direction...f1 cars where peak in 2004 - 2005 , Josh Benders 2000 karpiel 14'' bike is pretty much the peak of what drop bikes will ever achieve still 23yrs later . you could swap between a 2007 norco and a 2023 giant or santa Cruz etc and barely even notice the difference because the fundamental things haven't changed. you lads make it sound like its 1950's tech vs 23' tech 💀🤣.

@MarvinWestmaas 6 ай бұрын

That's not entirely true, but it greatly depends on what terrain people are riding. Where I live, you're fine with 2 decade old xc bikes. Since most of the trails are still the same ( pancake country ). But just looking at the xc races, two decades ago you still had hardtails because they were 'fine' for the course. Now xc races are ridden with full squish bikes exclusively, because the courses have gotten more demanding on the equipment ( bikes ). Ofc there are other innovations which I do look forward to, seeing they are already there in high end bikes now but haven't trickled down the market really. Things like SRAM Eagle transmissions, or heck I would love to try something with an internal gearbox. Suspension wise / geometry wise, I am not in need of the latest and greatest since I don't ride the terrain those innovations are tailored to. That being said, if I ever do go full squish because I can get it cheap and I have a place to ride where it benefits from it, I will go straight to high pivot and skip the older frames from a while back. It's not that bikes have peaked already, it's more that most people riding them do not need what the marketing tells them they need. And the few who do are acutely aware, because they ride the places where the new stuff shines. Which is perfectly visible here in this video, since the less slack and shorter geometry do make these big drops a bit more challenging. On the other hand, 99% of people can push their own skills a lot before actually needing a 'better bike'. @@TheCraigy83

@TheCraigy83 6 ай бұрын

@@MarvinWestmaas i'm talking about the big hitting DH bikes their linkages shocks forks etc haven't really changed and you're mostly on about xc bikes & gearing which have changed quite a lot .

@MarvinWestmaas 6 ай бұрын

Guess we're both a bit right then :) Though even the DH bikes have changed in geometry ( I been told.. I mean I never actually ridden an actual DH bike.. I mean the highest elevation here is like... 60m? and then you go down again... and up again.. and down again.. and up again.. not something really suited for a DH bike ). @@TheCraigy83

@TheCraigy83 6 ай бұрын

@@MarvinWestmaas They're really fun even just dropping down half dozen stairs to flat ground is enjoyable , typical city centre / urban industrial areas here in England have drops and gaps everywhere .

@hugoarkeveld2566 6 ай бұрын

Jordan you're videos are super amazing now, you're editing and voiceover is now top notch and I love watching every bit of your video. Thank you so much for this content!

@trous 6 ай бұрын

i love the old school tech on your channel. keep it up!

@DeluxPlays_ 6 ай бұрын

Send it! 🤙🏼

@hobmarg 6 ай бұрын

Wow! Sick video, best one in a while, how far you are hucking Clownshoes drop is crazy impressive to anyone who has seen it in person especially with that landing. Also cool to see Remy Morton and Rheeder admiring the boostmonster!

@AlexPTwigg-ql3ci 6 ай бұрын

Custom frame time baby! Imagine that fork on a frame made by Allen Millyard.

@gravity.gourmet 6 ай бұрын

As the Supermonster T is kind of a Moto Fork how about looking for a Moto Shock that could fit the frame? Or maybe some custom made spring could do the Trick as well... A whole custom frame would be the most epic thing to see happening 🤘🤘

@d-nicebikes 6 ай бұрын

JB AND NRML MTBR......Awsm!!! Love seeing these "collabs" of some of my fav YTrs. Another great vid, JB, and the Boost Monster is dialed as always. Loved the systems check before hitting the huge drop. Lol

@kyleslater5245 6 ай бұрын

Thanks for ridin with nrml mtbr. It made this a lot of fun.

@AaronNicoli 6 ай бұрын

Was cool to watch, been following this series like a hawk. No matter what people say, thinking of what those guys did with their gear back then... even til today, Bender and Super T are still in a league of their own IMHO. Would love to see a custom make huck frame with 300mm moto fork and moto rear shock (I know there were at least a few built back in the day like that) and see what it could do.

@170ozzman 6 ай бұрын

From many years of BMX racing in the 80's of course then a brief spot of mountain bikes before I hung it up I feel the boost monster fits your riding style all around your skill level pumps up while riding this bike compared to your other rides I watch you on. Keep on keeping on.

@editsmith3765 6 ай бұрын

Another sick video by the legend himself 🤙

@trailhedzmtb2384 6 ай бұрын

Remy and Jordan 2 of the sickest bike setups in the game!

@Sheppy99 6 ай бұрын

Two of my favorite mountain bikers getting together to make a sick vid. Awesome!

@LaurentiusTriarius 6 ай бұрын

"I can hear his brakes" We all did, whatever brakes nrml mtber uses I have total faith in them 😅🤞 What a great bunch of people, was fun to watch 🤘

@user-pr7pq1kz7h 6 ай бұрын

This format of video was SICK @Jordan , Keep going like that, now i m curious to see a "new" bike with 300 mm fork doing that hahaha

@SSMparadise12 6 ай бұрын

insane! love that!!!!!

@gigachad9257 6 ай бұрын

I always love your videos and you are a very good mtb youtuber nice job making videos.

@CollinOnTheTrails 6 ай бұрын

amazing video again as always! i'd love to see more 3rd person shots, on gopro some jumps look tiny compared to the 3rd person footage

@speedboard. 6 ай бұрын

If the spring isn't fully compressing in the rear you could add a spacer that blocks some of the coils to increase the spring rate, like what @Sprindex does with their springs.

@nickolasheyder1402 6 ай бұрын

Sick Video!!!

@TheBrokenMountainBiker 6 ай бұрын

You are an absolute animal bro!! Huge huck there!!

@justgarethsphone9663 6 ай бұрын

Sickk! Remy Mortons a beast

@Caleb10891 6 ай бұрын

Love the vids ❤

@mtbville 6 ай бұрын

Saturday evening 19:45 in 🇫🇮 Perfect timing dude 🤩🤘🔥 Let's Go!

@RobJMTB 6 ай бұрын

Remy's an absolute legend. Whatta guy.

@midlifecrisisvlog 6 ай бұрын

This was awesome, really enjoying the latest content. Any advice for building your channel base? Been struggling to get the algorithm on side to get the views up. 🤘🏻✌🏼

@tehalexy 6 ай бұрын

2:35 this 29" tires look like so small :D like bowser riding a child bike

@OmnieStar 6 ай бұрын

Hells yeah!! Seeeend iiiiiiiiit!

@MioRissolo 6 ай бұрын

finally doing some hucks!

@criticallycanadian 6 ай бұрын

There are a few bigger drops in the bike park but they're not well maintained/part of official trails.

@robdefire4747 6 ай бұрын

You will want to sort that shock out before it cracks the frame. Will need a much firmer shim stack in there. If you have an industrial spring maker in your area you may be able to get a custom spring made. Sick bike, you dont need the latest bike to have much fun. Would love to ride there but on the other side of the world to me.

@DaysDH 6 ай бұрын

I wonder if you could create new rear traingle with longer linkage

@felipebenitez5081 6 ай бұрын

Sick!! Put that fork on a hardtail pleeease, it would be awesome.

@benharrup5797 6 ай бұрын

Brooooo so so sick bro wow love your videos Jordan keep sending it you have inspired me I have built 4 downhill bikes I have a Norco six two that look very similar to your boost master minus them massive shocks I also have mongoose black diamond double and a specialized big hit 2011 and a few more I am a MASSIVE fan love your videos ❤ keep up the good work I live in Australia but would love to go to whistler bike park ❤❤❤

@thedemonhamster 6 ай бұрын

next upgrade is a custom frame for sure, a collab with a frame brand would be crazy

@therealridedmc 6 ай бұрын

You should try to get an older V10 (MK.5 or earlier). I think they had up to 255mm or 254mm rear travel and were designed around coil shocks.

@isaaccuartase3546 6 ай бұрын

It might not have been the centre of attention of the video, but now I have a BIG RESPECT for old Norco frames, that A-line hasn't cracked even under that kind of abuse with the super monster's. I bet you could not do those same hucks on a Kona 😂

@northwestmountainbikeaddic6874 6 ай бұрын

Sick!

@MarkBonerea 6 ай бұрын

What coefficient of hardness are you using for your shock bolts?

@crazycat7760 6 ай бұрын

Do you think the EXT-E moto shock could fix dampening and spring rate problems?

@fuzzchorus5271 6 ай бұрын

is there the posibility to custom tune the shock?

@artem_teliuk 6 ай бұрын

Don't you want to try swapping frame to a more modern one? Maybe starting from some downhill 29" frame or even building custom one? I am really interested in seeing the modern geometry 300mm suspension bike)

@planeandsimple431 6 ай бұрын

It's a shame that Whistler is so under funded (I'm being sarcastic) that they cant make that landing a tad less lethal. I know everyone signs a waver but, do they WANT people dying? Somehow, even wearing a full face, Phil gets noticed everywhere. It's nice to see people shouting you out on the trail.

@glennlivermore9120 6 ай бұрын

Hell yeah

@170ozzman 6 ай бұрын

Jordan ,figure out a way to put dog bones on the rear shock like a sport bike ( motorcycle) it allows the shock to work to its full potential but not bottom out from travel

@panbobr5411 6 ай бұрын

Have you thought about putting a rear air shock there? Something like fox float x2 or rock shoxs vivid 267/89 Sorry for my bad english greetings fron poland

@leafydialupking1 6 ай бұрын

You could always go to a longer and softer cone shaped bump stop to get more end stroke progression.

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

I did get a bigger end stop put in a while back

@boni_7073 6 ай бұрын

Les go

@lincolnpatchett7364 6 ай бұрын

9:37 the existence of rear feet implies that he has front feet

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

haha

@bryanwernick 6 ай бұрын

My heart dropped when you hucked it so far on the drop 😮

@Offlineozzy 6 ай бұрын

I think you should have someone do a custom made frame with slacker geometry but also integrate retro design so it can still look sick🤙

@mtbshawn0 6 ай бұрын

What knee pads do you have? I need some that cover my shins

@benharrup5797 6 ай бұрын

FULL SEND ❤❤❤❤❤❤

@benharrup5797 6 ай бұрын

Best KZfaqr bro love all your videos you have me an addiction now I can’t stop watching all your videos and building mad bikes !!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙🤙

@benharrup5797 6 ай бұрын

@jordan boostmaster

@bobyplayzyt 6 ай бұрын

Ever thought about trying an air shock for the boostmonster? I think there should be 267 air shocks like Float X2

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

it's harder to fit certain shocks in there

@MTBSHOGUN 6 ай бұрын

Senddddddd that Shizzzzz 🎉

@Sirmellowman 28 күн бұрын

i dono man from the videos ive seen pros make. you ride just as gnarly stuff as they do on the normal

@ashleytombs 6 ай бұрын

Yeah Jordan you’re a madman just imagine how big Jordan would be able to go if he had modern geometry with the super monster example some of the drops at rampage are 55+ most of them DH bikes are 200mm of travel so imagine the sort of drops you could to do with 300 mm and modern geometry forget benders jaw Drop😂😂

@Clayton_B 6 ай бұрын

Is that the old clown shoes drop, pretty sure that's what it was called, first time I hit that in 2008 I went into it blind and almost landed to flat and bottomed out my monster badly on it, before they added that down ramp on it, it looked way more knarly

@Freedom_an_mtb 6 ай бұрын

2017 INTENSE M16 has 241mm rear travel would be a sick combo for the super monsters!!

@briancrumpacker 6 ай бұрын

Seems like you should be looking for a Karpiel Armageddon frame for those forks.

@Juos10kustu 6 ай бұрын

how many of the super monsters have been made ? i have one but i dont use it in downhill because i dont want to destroy it.

@chipsnpeasifuplz 6 ай бұрын

Heard of people using pit bike shock springs

@TuckerC1 6 ай бұрын

imagine if a company decides to make you a custom frame with modern geometry and a bigger better shock to match the fork i would love to see that

@Noahdoesvideos 6 ай бұрын

What are those vest some people ware?

@1000750 6 ай бұрын

Back in 2009 did that drop used to be a wood drop without the wood roll part an actural drop off and to the riders right there was a diagonal roll in or do you know the one. I thought it was called clown shoes but not sure. I have a sick pic of it. 🤙

@OmnieStar 6 ай бұрын

What other frame would you want to use other then the older ones?

@LaurentiusTriarius 6 ай бұрын

Custom built?

@PaulShoemaker-mh8yw Ай бұрын

what kind of gloves do you have

@lachrobster 6 ай бұрын

You should get a comancal frs and put the super monster on that

@RickyDownhillRDH 6 ай бұрын

SENT!!

@andrewsiasparks 6 ай бұрын

Who wishes there were new Huck bikes being made?

@Spacezee110 6 ай бұрын

Those forks belong on the karpiel apocalypse

@mtblife745 6 ай бұрын

Hi Jordan!!

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

hi!

@johngreason9964 6 ай бұрын

Brooklyn Machine Works?

@darian_eugene_1452 6 ай бұрын

Hey, jordan do you think I can ride a hardtail in whistler?

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

yes

@darian_eugene_1452 6 ай бұрын

@@JordanBoostmaster thanks

@PhatKidFries 6 ай бұрын

3:19 Brett Rheeder?

@JordanBoostmaster 6 ай бұрын

yup

@calinfloyd 6 ай бұрын

Make a custom frame for it man! Plz! Thay geometry is so old and short haha

@EricFB 6 ай бұрын

Thought experiment: Put that fork on a modern dh bike?

@esc5060 6 ай бұрын

i think maybe you should find a different older frame to use with a different suspension geometry

@AndroidBeacshire 6 ай бұрын

i love that bike and its 300million travel, but that short wheelbase gives me the fear. only a matter of time before faceplanting

@Joe-pb3lx 6 ай бұрын

Cannon Racecraft Inc will build you a spring you need for around 150 shipped

@BillKnight-tj2rs 6 ай бұрын

Surrons use the same shock size 10.5x3.5 and their springs go up to 650lbs/ in, that may be something to consider

@Conner21230 6 ай бұрын

how come you don't ride crabapple hits anymore?

@erikangle6385 6 ай бұрын

24 min tune gang

@tacticooldennis 6 ай бұрын

When you hang up an old bike, it sits at the level you were at that time. Never to do your current biggest jump, its just waiting there to be awesome again.

@ConfusedRaccoon 6 ай бұрын

Shit I've still got a 2006-8 Iron Horse Sunday sitting in my garage. Bright yellow with a bent rear rim because I cased a jump so hard. Shame she's sat collecting dust and rust.