HOW FAR CAN YOU PUSH A TWIN FIN l WILLIAM ALIOTTI

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Kandui Resort

Kandui Resort

11 ай бұрын

We Love Twin Fins Out Here in the Mentawais.
We've always wondered how far you can push a twin but also with the right surfer, if you could be an advantage with only 2 fins underneath your feet. We brought out William Aliotti for a month and had the 4 shapers we feel are driving Twin Fin performance make him a 2 board quiver specifically made for Mentawai Perfection. The results left us wondering if we've been riding the wrong equipment for years. - All Day Ray
2023 William Aliotti Mentawai Twin Fin Quiver
Pyzel Surfboards "Happy Twin"
5'5 x 19.5 x 2.4 x 27.3L
www.pyzelsurfboards.com/index...
Fins "Futures T1 Honeycomb Medium"
futuresfins.com/products/t1-h...
Channel Islands Surfboards "Twin Pin"
5'6 x 19 1/2 x 2.4 x 27.7
cisurfboards.com/products/twi...
Fins "Futures Brett Merrick Twin Fiberglass Large"
futuresfins.com/products/brit...
Lost Surfboards "Round Nose Fish 96"
5'5 x 19.5 x 2.4 x 28.9L
lostsurfboards.net/surfboards...
Fins "Futures Mayhem Evil Twin Honeycomb Medium"
futuresfins.com/products/mayh...
Christenson Surfboards "Lane Splitter Squash"
5'5 x 19.75 x 2.4 x 28L
christensonsurfboards.com/lan...
Fins "Futures Rasta Twin Honeycomb with Carbon Large"
futuresfins.com/products/rast...
Channel Islands Surfboards "Free Scrubber"
5'5 x 19.75 x 2.4 x 27.9L
cisurfboards.com/products/fre...
Fins "Futures T2 Fiberglass Large"
futuresfins.com/products/t2-f...
Pyzel Surfboards "Wild Cat"
5'7 x 19.4 x 2.45 x 28.35L
www.pyzelsurfboards.com/index...
Fins "Futures T1 Honeycomb Medium"
futuresfins.com/products/t1-h...
Lost Surfboards "California Twin Pin"
5'6 x 19.5 x 2.4 x 28.2L
lostsurfboards.net/surfboards...
Fins "Futures Mayhem Evil Twin Honeycomb Large"
futuresfins.com/products/mayh...
Christenson Surfboards "Lane Splitter Roundtail"
5'7 x 19.25 x 2.4 x 28.8L
christensonsurfboards.com/lan...
Fins "Futures EN Fiberglass X-Large"
futuresfins.com/products/fibe...
Production: Kandui Resort (@kanduiresort)
Water Footage: Federico Vanno (@liquidbarrel)
Additional Footage: Tani Tripod (@tanitripod), Basi Lius (@basi_lius), Botik Resort (@botikresort), Inigo Grasset (@igrassetphoto), Margarita Salyak (@margarita_salyak)
Photography: Manu Miguelez (@manu__miguelez)
Special Thanks
Pyzel Surfboards
Pyzel Surfboards (@pyzelsurfboards), Pyzel Surfboards Bali (@pyzelsurfboardsbali)
Channel Islands Surfboards
Channel Islands Surfboards (@cisurfboards), Channel Islands Surfboards Bali (@cisurfboardsbali), Onboard Store Bali (@onboardstorebali)
Lost Surfboards
Lost Surfboards (@lostsurfboards), Lost Surfboards Indo (@lost_indo), Matt Biolos (@matt_biolos)
Christenson Surfboards
Christenson Surfboards (@christensonsurfboards), Onboard Store Bali (@onboardstorebali)
Futures Fins
Futures Fins (@futuresfins), Vince Longo (@vince_longo)
Music:
Acid Ghost "Sandy Kim"
The Brian Jonestown Massacre "Just for Today"
Pity Party Girls Club & Lucys "Empty Spaces"
Hawkwind "Opa-Loka"
Acid Ghost "Not the Same Person"
Heart "Crazy on You"
VHS Sports "Come Over"
Thee Oh Sees "Dead Man's Gun"
Night Beats "H-Bomb"
Thee Oh Sees "Animated Violence"
Harmless "Pier Cafe"

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@bernd_2845
@bernd_2845 11 ай бұрын
The twinfin conversation is so fun because it challenges the dogma that there’s a “right way” to ride, and not rather preferences for drawing certain lines. I wouldn’t want to tell JJF that he doesn’t need a thruster, or say that Andy Irons was riding the wrong fins. But there’s a lot of groms, and honestly girls, that are being told they HAVE to ride certain equipment to be good at surfing. How liberating to know that the topic has much more nuisance and personal feeling involved!
@simonbackwash
@simonbackwash 10 ай бұрын
Yup ! Well said Man👏👍
@joeboonmusic4004
@joeboonmusic4004 8 ай бұрын
So true. The dogma (from some) that specific equipment is necessary is very anti-surfing in my opinion. Ride what you want, it's so much more exciting to see various boards in the water.
@philippeherisset3185
@philippeherisset3185 11 ай бұрын
when you're good you're good no matter the board!
@JM-gt3yu
@JM-gt3yu 11 ай бұрын
that backside drop was mind blowing
@srfpunk8207
@srfpunk8207 10 ай бұрын
This was one of the best surf video in a long time. Epic footage and great editing and commentary. Thank you for this!🤙🏽👍🏽
@christardiff1714
@christardiff1714 27 күн бұрын
This was my favorite edit of 2023. Great surfing, music, waves and boards.
@JM-gt3yu
@JM-gt3yu 11 ай бұрын
MR and AIPA are kings of twinnies
@sachaDS0
@sachaDS0 8 күн бұрын
DAT Pumping in the barrel tho. Insane! good to see a frenchie Rippin' !!
@lavapix
@lavapix 4 күн бұрын
I got my first twin last year at age 63. A Wyve Twin Pin. I got it for small weaker days but turns out it loves steep hollow waves both big and small. Put the Machado Keel fins on it for more drive as the board was already plenty loose. Ended up being my go-to board all winter. Too bad one of these wasn't in this video. Great no foam hollow core 3d printed boards.
@Surfhacks
@Surfhacks 10 ай бұрын
I just love my Fishbeard and use it around 90% of the time in almost any kind of waves and conditions, but watching William surfing on these Twins is just magic. The bad side of this video is my level of "kookness" and the excuses I make missing barrels and turns then blaming being on a twin fin, LOL.
@luvmsiahatethegov
@luvmsiahatethegov 11 ай бұрын
This is the sickest twin film I've seen ever
@antonlongman.865
@antonlongman.865 10 ай бұрын
as good as any stab production well done guys
@newoization
@newoization 10 ай бұрын
Oh my gosh. I didnt expect much and this one blew my mind. This kid can rip. The soundtrack was killer. Absolutely loved it.
@MRxr400
@MRxr400 10 ай бұрын
impressive stylish surfer. he'd make any board look amazing.
@fergferguson7370
@fergferguson7370 11 ай бұрын
This guy makes surfing these twins look easy…twins are great for the beach breaks..hold fast ride a barrel get smashed
@godfreybala6868
@godfreybala6868 11 ай бұрын
Wow the Christensen conquering the foam balls in the last clip was insane 🤙🏾
@pteronadon
@pteronadon 11 ай бұрын
So cool! It's really nice to see someone dedicate himself to twinfins as William does. And proving them right in heavy surf. I myself have been riding pretty much exclusively twinfins since 2012, in all sizes of surf. Tasted it and got hooked forever: fish, twinpin, mid twin... That's my quiver now. Tried to surf a couple of times on thrusters and hated it. Good bye and good riddance, three fins! The speed you get from takeoff, the projection you get out of every bottom turn or the speed you get on turns have no match. Hail the Twin!
@salty_adventures
@salty_adventures 11 ай бұрын
I‘ve only surfed thrusters so far, and ordered the Pukas Lady Twin (mid-length), I‘m so stoked to take it out on the point-breaks where I live this autumn/winter !!! Who knows what happens to the thrusters :P
@pteronadon
@pteronadon 10 ай бұрын
@@salty_adventures I know everyone has their preferences and particular likings, but I´m pretty sure you will be amazed on how free and flowy it feels to ride a twin, be it a small fish or a midlength. Enjoy your rides mate!
@salty_adventures
@salty_adventures 10 ай бұрын
@@pteronadon thanks, you too ! 🤙
@splocal
@splocal 7 ай бұрын
Bro great comment! I’ve been riding twin +1’s for a while and love them. I am contemplating getting a dedicated twin. I’m a little nervous because in the past I’ve felt riding only twin felt too loose but then I’ve never rode a board specifically designed to be ridden as a twin. I’m about to jump two feet in! Looking at the El Tomo twin. Last call as FireWire says it will no longer be in production.
@mcmcmc1
@mcmcmc1 5 ай бұрын
Man I tried my first twin fin in 2021, got super hooked on the glide and speed but i've found out the best thing is 2+1 on a thruster fin placement board. I have tried also 2+2trailers and they go really well. I love twin fins but sometimes when you get too stoked mid turn and push they slide
@chriswhittorn
@chriswhittorn Ай бұрын
Omg emagine having such an amazing board tester like that. Amazing film.
@louiskuamoo
@louiskuamoo 2 ай бұрын
Talk about shredding! Did that guy ever fall? Some insane turns, snaps & aerials! So, which was the better board? Aloha
@surf_videos
@surf_videos 9 ай бұрын
This is an old conversation. If you like the turning ability of the twins fin without it loosing grip try 2 FCS Kelly Slater back fins as the outside fins and the smallest FCS back fin you can get in a thruster configuration ! Your surfing experience will change forever. PROMISE 🤪🤩🤟
@mowaxbro
@mowaxbro 11 ай бұрын
I can't believe how many good waves you surfed. Epic and all those boards looked great under your feet.
@caldogrun
@caldogrun 11 ай бұрын
Right on William A.! This guy is so good he could compete and match the top W.S.L. guys! But obviously more inclined to be a free surfer and put on these great performances for all to enjoy! Thanks for the stoke, from an old long border...Lol!
@emersonnogueira2925
@emersonnogueira2925 10 ай бұрын
Just awesome...
@dkilla01
@dkilla01 9 ай бұрын
What an awesome video loved it ❤
@adamwaz5615
@adamwaz5615 11 ай бұрын
Where's Album?
@mtsquash2458
@mtsquash2458 11 ай бұрын
Killer film. Sick surfing and boards!
@cesarcaceres26
@cesarcaceres26 10 ай бұрын
That last part on the CC round tail was mental
@rzadigi
@rzadigi 11 ай бұрын
Epic waves, boards, surfing and music!! What a fantastic video!❤🙏
@auburneagle1410
@auburneagle1410 9 ай бұрын
perfect song for the end🤘I can't wait to see them live
@dezionlion
@dezionlion 11 ай бұрын
Cool video and music!
@kris-kb4vf
@kris-kb4vf 9 ай бұрын
😮woooow best surfer video, thanks😊
@user-gh4dn5eu8d
@user-gh4dn5eu8d 10 ай бұрын
l love this video!
@photobossbali
@photobossbali 10 ай бұрын
Great work fellas, thats super sick. So many rad shots, love the variation of drone and water shots mixed in with the commentary and good music. Class work, great watch
@jacobosuarezcernudasc9952
@jacobosuarezcernudasc9952 9 ай бұрын
Pyzels Wins 💥💥. Amazing Video 💯Thanks
@whargraves1
@whargraves1 9 ай бұрын
One of the better comparison of surfboards and fin selections with great editing. Job well done boi's!
@JonathanLahey
@JonathanLahey 10 ай бұрын
The coolest edit I've seen in so long. With such insane and refreshing stylish power surfing. so sick!
@hipsonsogbo
@hipsonsogbo 10 ай бұрын
Edited with slow mo 😂 maverick has and never will work in surfing
@Moods45
@Moods45 11 ай бұрын
Dood rips. Great vid. I owned the RNF... one of the funnest boards I have ever owned. All of the boards looked great but the Pyzel took it for me
@wolvsurf
@wolvsurf 10 ай бұрын
Epic 🔥🔥🔥
@dissanti
@dissanti 10 ай бұрын
Esse vídeo está incrível! 🤯
@AnonYmous-be9vw
@AnonYmous-be9vw 10 ай бұрын
This is modern pro surfing. Thanks for the inspiration, stoke and vibes to the Ho family. Much love from Spokane, Washington ❤
@3style.4life
@3style.4life 10 ай бұрын
Great idea, really good surf, super smooth style of riding and tones of information about boards and fins ! I love that, thanks guys for sharing this 👌🏻🤘🏻😎🤙🏻👏🏻
@paulmunoz54
@paulmunoz54 10 ай бұрын
Epic 👍👍👍
@user-cx9cj8wf3h
@user-cx9cj8wf3h 8 ай бұрын
I grew up on a twin Fish ( circa 1975-) I ripped any wave at any time from Seaside Reef in Solana Beach to The Lighthouse in Ventura. That fish hung on any wall, and would Fly down the line and generate generating massive speed!
@cassioruas
@cassioruas 4 ай бұрын
What a great great footage, good surfing and, man, this one blew my mind !! Epic places & waves!!!
@djconeuk
@djconeuk 11 ай бұрын
Really good surfing!!
@theodoreestienne5492
@theodoreestienne5492 7 ай бұрын
Bro your surf is super complete Love your style Airs and carves. Keep it up
@surfersam559
@surfersam559 10 ай бұрын
Such an epic edit 🤙🏽🙌🏽
@willorr1494
@willorr1494 9 ай бұрын
WOW twin fins are heaps of FUN
@brunorocha9833
@brunorocha9833 10 ай бұрын
Q show d surf! Chamou geral!!!! Realizou um sonho d vida, esquerdas perfeitas
@winfieldritzert2176
@winfieldritzert2176 10 ай бұрын
This guy surfs so well...
@nickortcoski6769
@nickortcoski6769 11 ай бұрын
Seriously, he is such a solid surfer he would've ripped even harder with a ghost for example. All good though, it's the waves that are the real winners! Thanks.
@frankolivito9242
@frankolivito9242 7 ай бұрын
beautifully filmed and put together !,Ive been riding twin finsnin Maui right now its fastan fun!,cool to see different shapes and see how theyn work athe "Playground "area .i surfed some of those breaks when i stayed at Kandui resort but "Kandui "didnt break but "Rifles" did so we scored ! Great job with the fim Aloha
@pablomentalsurfaustralia
@pablomentalsurfaustralia 11 ай бұрын
best ever legend 🙌 ❤️ 💙 only twinfin board yeahhhh 👌 👍
@martin988
@martin988 10 ай бұрын
Increible, larga vida al twin!
@ryanlowe988
@ryanlowe988 5 ай бұрын
5 months in and im watching it again for the umpteenth time. 😎🤙🏼
@yvanpedron5255
@yvanpedron5255 10 ай бұрын
William déchire tout en finesse.
@wesm-o
@wesm-o 11 ай бұрын
That backside drop on the CI 🤯
@13soulz
@13soulz 10 ай бұрын
Way way back in the dayz I rode the Aipa stinger. 6’0 beveled rails long single fin box ,, it was the first step to loose skate style and good fun! Than I got my hands on a 5’9 TnC Twin fin shaped by Glen Minami , it excelled my small wave surfing in leaps and bounds. 360s whenever you wanted n fast as fk! The ONLY thing is it out ran the tube ! If you rail 2rail surfed it it was magic but ONLY , in the pocket, out on the flats you better cut back or it’s pretty much over When Simon Anderson first launched the thruster it changed the face of surfing, hence I could do whatever the fk I wanted and Deep tube rides, full control , never looked back , but the TWIN was good fun!!! Thanks for the video bruh! Brings back some insane times 😂
@user-uu1ql5bf4v
@user-uu1ql5bf4v 10 ай бұрын
great video..... best paddler? faster for you?
@AndrewCooperr
@AndrewCooperr 11 ай бұрын
A month straight of surfing perfect waves probably all inclusive… where do I sign up?😅
@grego4835
@grego4835 11 ай бұрын
I lovey 5'4 Christenson twinny
@troycreatlive4148
@troycreatlive4148 9 ай бұрын
rad vid
@EMan-cu5zo
@EMan-cu5zo 10 ай бұрын
When I was younger I chopped over half of the middle fin of my board of and sanded it down. This was before removable fins in the 90s. At first it slid to easily but after a few times with it I loved it. Could surf waves well overhead and hollow to smaller waves. I forgot about that board until this reminded me of it. I think I still have it in my garage. Super beat up now though.
@latentsea
@latentsea 9 ай бұрын
Removable fins in the 60’s and well before. But o hear ya, FCS and futures in the 90’s
@kiwanlandrethsmith
@kiwanlandrethsmith 5 ай бұрын
These boards look Siiic
@KEPO843
@KEPO843 11 ай бұрын
Unless I missed it, I would be interested to know which board he ended up liking the most once the test was over. You know the one board you can't stop thinking about. Beautiful surfing.
@J_Smith7
@J_Smith7 10 ай бұрын
In the beginning he suggests the Happy twin being his favorite @3:10? These are all great boards but theres lots not on the list...hundreds of other quality shapers out there- one example being the alpha omega from the Campbell brothers. Also, something to consider is how different some of these are such as the pin tail of the twin pin which actually has a V in the tail on the bottom which kinda acts as a third fin. I dont think there is one single best twin fin. Best to have a quiver of some :)
@scottc3165
@scottc3165 9 ай бұрын
@@J_Smith7Campbell brothers boards rocks! If you've never surfed an epic bonzer.... youshould
@J_Smith7
@J_Smith7 9 ай бұрын
@@scottc3165 Malcom and Duncan have an excellent line up of boards eh. I do actually have the alpha omega, but would very much like to get another one of their boards.
@cisnerosigonda
@cisnerosigonda 11 ай бұрын
Just good surfing. Hard to say which one went better. !
@DarknessYT2010
@DarknessYT2010 10 ай бұрын
Grew up on a twin fin
@eduardoguedes5024
@eduardoguedes5024 10 ай бұрын
Sick
@jerrybow8779
@jerrybow8779 10 ай бұрын
Waves are sick! RIP MAKILA
@EN-qo5yh
@EN-qo5yh 10 ай бұрын
I love this guy's surfing but ... there wasn't much backside surfing present - was that b/c this part of the world is mainly lefts?
@RoctopusTube
@RoctopusTube 11 ай бұрын
Epic
@greenlion7750
@greenlion7750 10 ай бұрын
I’ve had two Happy Twins and ordered another. it’s my favorite model Pyzel. Barrels turns and airs, does it all.
@stevehills5753
@stevehills5753 10 ай бұрын
Did you order yours with or without a trailer?
@greenlion7750
@greenlion7750 10 ай бұрын
@@stevehills5753 my small one has a trailer and my bigger one don’t. 5’7 and 5’10 My next 5’10 I’ll try it with channels But really I’d like to it with a trailer too. Need. More. Boards. 🤤
@erringent
@erringent 10 ай бұрын
@@greenlion7750 do you like it better with the trailer?
@greenlion7750
@greenlion7750 7 ай бұрын
@@erringentthat’s a tough question. I want both. Nothing like a pure twin that works so well
@shayneferber
@shayneferber 6 ай бұрын
@greenlion7750 Have you ever compared the Happy Twin to a Wilccat?
@matthew3823
@matthew3823 11 ай бұрын
all that speed them waves offer, any board will work great
@alfonsolopc
@alfonsolopc 10 ай бұрын
No wonder he likes the happy twin. It’s basically a high performance shortboard with 2 fins..
@Ron-oh8lj
@Ron-oh8lj 11 ай бұрын
The world knows. You and Shane Horan can keep those boards🎉
@latentsea
@latentsea 9 ай бұрын
Saw cheyne drop In atvthe bay, legit 15 foot on a 5’7” laser zap. He slid straight down and got annihilated
@aaronpegg6744
@aaronpegg6744 11 ай бұрын
Sick, got some balls bro
@pgstormerss
@pgstormerss 10 ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌
@curtisreynolds7708
@curtisreynolds7708 6 ай бұрын
Yeah doesn't matter what's under that guys feet he's a top world surfer guy should be qualifying for the tour like the Pyzel
@cruzanbum3108
@cruzanbum3108 3 ай бұрын
I ride my twinnie at Mavericks every day!
@IanMcSlater
@IanMcSlater 10 ай бұрын
Id like to see how many surfers admit they cant surf a twin backside very well. Being caught up in "hype" is costing a lot of people money buying a twin then finding out they cant surf it well, but it is entertaining to watch
@andreabordoni2665
@andreabordoni2665 9 ай бұрын
What's the height and weight of this guy though??
@thehoon1
@thehoon1 10 ай бұрын
I'm sure there's surfers that can push it a lot further than people realise, kelly for one.
@stephenkoawl3453
@stephenkoawl3453 6 ай бұрын
I wonder how keel fins would do!
@changguliou3634
@changguliou3634 9 ай бұрын
so so sick
@polacorp
@polacorp 11 ай бұрын
any winners or top 3?
@jimihendrixx11
@jimihendrixx11 10 ай бұрын
Gary Mcneil concepts another to consider
@maximilianomas8747
@maximilianomas8747 10 ай бұрын
Great vid and info. I would clarify that he is a PRO surfer, so those boards are 27/28 litres. Amateurs or even intermediate levels (98% of people), for a twin fin should think 5 litres more than their normal litres. I weight 73kg intermediate level. My short board is 28litres, but my retro fish keel twin is 33 litres. Cheers from Argenitna ;)
@lewiswhitley2391
@lewiswhitley2391 10 ай бұрын
Whats the guys weight please?
@Kalza86
@Kalza86 9 ай бұрын
Im 511 85kg. My regular surf spot is a slower break. What size twinny would you reccomend?
@latentsea
@latentsea 9 ай бұрын
6’3” 2.69 19.63
@J_Smith7
@J_Smith7 10 ай бұрын
@20:28 Try the round nose 96 here
@907to760
@907to760 10 ай бұрын
so sick
@curtisreynolds7708
@curtisreynolds7708 11 ай бұрын
That guy could rip on a ironing board natural talent although i did like the channel bottom Merrick
@hwn8088
@hwn8088 11 ай бұрын
Always Rode Twin Fins,,Mark Richard's Wz The Man On Twin Fins I think he Surfed 🏄‍♂️ Waimea Bay On A Twin Fin Way Back in the Days ..I Had A Glen Minami 5,10 Swallow Tail,,Twin Fin Got Some of My Best Barrels on that Board Twin Fins Are 2 x Faster Than any Thuster u could Ride 💯❗
@wsmc723
@wsmc723 11 ай бұрын
I always have such mixed feelings watching this type of video. On the one hand I appreciate the talent of the people involved and celebrate their creativity and the beauty of the places they are showcasing. On the other hand, I feel discomforted knowing there are so many of our fellow brothers and sisters on this planet who, by virtue of being born in the wrong location, can only dream about living such a privileged and affluent life as they struggle every day just to have enough to eat to stay alive.
@NgamissCleo
@NgamissCleo 11 ай бұрын
So what is your solution?
@edawg654
@edawg654 11 ай бұрын
Bitcoin
@pedrolito862
@pedrolito862 11 ай бұрын
@@edawg654 yeah sure, my mates who have a lot of bitcoin and invested ages ago still can't come with me riding powder bc they wait for the bull run bhahahaha. Even the system does not slave you that much.
@pedrolito862
@pedrolito862 11 ай бұрын
At least they don't make the world go worse, they don't work in banking or invest in shits destroying the planet. They just surf and film themselves surfing. Maybe tell this to people who actually fuck up the earth and its people :)
@wsmc723
@wsmc723 11 ай бұрын
@@NgamissCleo I don’t think there is a solution, it’s the way things have always been. It just makes me think about the crazy juxtaposition of life.
@williamhanley7031
@williamhanley7031 11 ай бұрын
If you know where to put your feet there is no issue. Richards got 4 titles.
@scottc3165
@scottc3165 9 ай бұрын
Great! I've been looking for a 5' 7" twinny that I can surf big Kandui's with and still be able to do airs and carve. Haha. I wish. Seriously, William is such a good surfer he could make a coffee table do airs. I really like em all. I'm a twinny whore though.
@thelastrebelshow1627
@thelastrebelshow1627 10 ай бұрын
Imagine being stranded here like Cast away for years with no board no fins. 😱🙈🙀
@jarrettfowler836
@jarrettfowler836 10 ай бұрын
E.A.S.T., is that you?
@thierrymaine8213
@thierrymaine8213 3 ай бұрын
I thought about staying with you until I saw that video.
@marioferminio1
@marioferminio1 10 ай бұрын
I'll give you a test drive tip, new materials like recycled blocks, natural fabrics and vegetable resin. No more plastic surfboards, let's help the oceans.
@gabrielk4120
@gabrielk4120 10 ай бұрын
the twins surely looks great on fat waves...it makes a slow pace fat wave looks right on point...but on good waves im not sure the lack of nose is a good idea...after all there's nothing better than formula 1 tightly slicing a sucking wave.
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