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How Fast Can You Tow A Caravan... With A Bike?

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Is this the worst idea we've ever had? We wanted to find out just how fast you can tow a 700kg caravan by bike. Thankfully ultra endurance cycling legend Mark Beaumont was on hand to attempt the world record for us.
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@gethind-j2390
@gethind-j2390 4 жыл бұрын
"Please don't try this at home" says Mark, hoping to retain the record as long as possible!
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns 4 жыл бұрын
It'll likely never be broken, considering the amount of money it takes to get Guinness off their greedy bums
@theokrisna
@theokrisna 4 жыл бұрын
You supposed to try it outside
@goldsteinist
@goldsteinist 3 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha :) Im building my Own bicycle caravan with only max 70 kg! This guy should have taken a car battery and fix it to his front on the bike... you can completely build an off grid bicycle caravan yourself instead of pulling a 700 kg caravan meant to be pulled by a car. 🖖🏻
@GH0--001
@GH0--001 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldsteinist or you pack a backpack with a tent, matress and sleeping bag + resources xD
@hawkinsdaniel7144
@hawkinsdaniel7144 3 жыл бұрын
@@goldsteinist Is this your own project, or are you following plans? Either way I'm interested, gonna try something similar
@ryanashburner6823
@ryanashburner6823 4 жыл бұрын
Two of the most hated things on the road and youve managed to combine them, i love it!
@panzerveps
@panzerveps 4 жыл бұрын
Double negative = positive, right?
@michaellee1663
@michaellee1663 4 жыл бұрын
Ooh, bit harsh on Mark.... 😂😜
@rabidsminions2079
@rabidsminions2079 4 жыл бұрын
Add motorbikes to the list.
@mnjags
@mnjags 4 жыл бұрын
Rolling on the floor laughing...
@hobpie
@hobpie 4 жыл бұрын
Just put a horse in the caravan and we've got a trifecta
@kingjariSOS
@kingjariSOS 4 жыл бұрын
Guinness have been chugging too much of their own product if they thought 25mph was realistic.
@patricj951
@patricj951 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, 25mph would likely require around 5 horsepower so that is highly exaggerated goal.
@xristos1250
@xristos1250 4 жыл бұрын
@@patricj951 well 5 hp is 375 watts which Mark was definitely pushing . Problem was instability. Maybe towing with rope ?
@rubendeklerkdeklerkperform5501
@rubendeklerkdeklerkperform5501 4 жыл бұрын
Χρήστο ς its 3750 watts mate
@patricj951
@patricj951 4 жыл бұрын
@@xristos1250 no, 1hp is 736w, so 5hp is 3680w. I think it's obvious in the video that it was not only stability which prevented him to go faster. A 700kg caravan has a significant rolling resistance and at such a low speed the air resistance is small. Human power is too small for such a heavy transport with rubber tires so I think the speed will remain low. Exceeding 20km/h the air resistance will be significant as well so I think 40km/h requires several cyclists on a tandem to reach.
@xristos1250
@xristos1250 4 жыл бұрын
@@patricj951 I stand corrected, it sounds more realistic. Maybe get the full Gcn crew :D no tandem just rope no?
@samtravis4822
@samtravis4822 4 жыл бұрын
This seems like more of an engineering challenge than a physical one
@thomassteele1728
@thomassteele1728 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah he just needs more gear range and better balancing points right? Tuck the back tire almost under the front of the trailer, extend the framework up to the front end still using the back. Then maybe then he can get rid of the extra wheel.
@Anthony_Aú.GreenParty
@Anthony_Aú.GreenParty 3 жыл бұрын
Agree. He needs more mechanical advantage in the gearing.
@griefer5846
@griefer5846 Жыл бұрын
what if an e bike is used, one that could go as fast as 60mph
@basstrom88
@basstrom88 4 жыл бұрын
Geez, they could have at least rigged up a cable actuator from the caravan's brake booster to a lever on the handlebars, or rig it up like a dead man's switch release in case he lost control. If he'd actually got to 25mph he'd have a hard time stopping without being run over. Also they could have messed around with the centre of gravity over the caravan's axle to reduce the load on the towball by moving internal components rearwards, which would then reduce the pitch up of the bike's front wheel (obviously there would have to still be some weight to prevent lifting up the rear wheel of the bike and losing traction). Considering how little time he had with no preparation, Mark still did a really good job!
@Gisae
@Gisae 4 жыл бұрын
This ^
@HNXMedia
@HNXMedia 4 жыл бұрын
You need to be included in the next run. They could use some of this wisdom.
@chrislukes9037
@chrislukes9037 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was actually wondering if the original towing setup -- although not strong enough -- offered the advantage of an extra hinge point between the bike and the trailer. I'd think this would give the bike more freedom of movement to manage handling versus the rear end being tugged around by the momentum of the trailer.
@alradhi.j3009
@alradhi.j3009 4 жыл бұрын
sir you must be an engineer
@pauldamian2988
@pauldamian2988 4 жыл бұрын
Also, why not START from some of those existing bicycle trailers for towing your kids around? The ones with 2 nice wheels and a set up to attach to a bike. That way you could build the tow ball between the trailer wheels, essentially giving the caravan another axle to support the weight on. That's where I would have started from. First minutes into this all I could think was "no way can you do this with a caravan with a single axle!". Good fun though... just need an engineer on the team.
@jackprat17
@jackprat17 4 жыл бұрын
Surely Mark is the opposite choice for this challenge, his strengths are endurance! You need a sprinter with torso sized quads.
@robflel
@robflel 4 жыл бұрын
Dan was the obvious choice for this, his quads probably are as big as his torso. (Only kidding, love ya Boss).
@kevinfromsales6842
@kevinfromsales6842 4 жыл бұрын
Chain snapping leg strength
@nedt
@nedt 4 жыл бұрын
Blake Samson??
@doom4067
@doom4067 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there was a guy that powered a toaster with a bicycle. He might have a shot at 25mph.
@demacherius1
@demacherius1 4 жыл бұрын
Get Mark Forstermann the Toasterguy and let him break the speedlimit of the Caravan 😁
@JerryKasai
@JerryKasai 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy Clarkson’s head just exploded.
@SimbaWaNyika
@SimbaWaNyika 3 жыл бұрын
As it should 🤣🤣🤣
@Valryas
@Valryas 4 жыл бұрын
A whole new level of bikepacking there
@callummclachlan4771
@callummclachlan4771 4 жыл бұрын
"Screw tents. I'm bringing a whole caravan with me."
@TikeMyson69
@TikeMyson69 4 жыл бұрын
It's great if you want to camp within walking distance from home. As a bonus you can easily make sure you didn't leave the immersion on.
@denisdrc5836
@denisdrc5836 4 жыл бұрын
Next year: Mark crosses Atlantic on a pedal boat
@The1trueDave
@The1trueDave 4 жыл бұрын
Some Portuguese grandmother did it, in a documentary I saw in 2003: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/h9mgZbKayuCddX0.html
@erikb8877
@erikb8877 4 жыл бұрын
...in the middle of the shipping lanes
@whitepawrolls
@whitepawrolls 4 жыл бұрын
This I would try if I had the joints for it. that sounds fun :)
@OmarTan
@OmarTan 4 жыл бұрын
Kids, this is how you train hill climb on a flat terrain
@joynthis
@joynthis 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like everyone involved in this flunked out of the Wile E. Coyote School of Physics.
@Bob_Shy_132
@Bob_Shy_132 4 жыл бұрын
The bike didn't say ACME on the side.
@jen3800
@jen3800 4 жыл бұрын
@@Bob_Shy_132 GCN should henceforth be known as ACME school of Cycling Physics for mouth breathers.
@billinhouston3291
@billinhouston3291 4 жыл бұрын
What a great effort! Mark is a great rider and presenter. Nice to see someone closer to my size on a bike. Put the hitch ball in a BOB trailer. Removes every issue of weight distribution for the tow bike.
@WylieCoyote45
@WylieCoyote45 4 жыл бұрын
MIRA is a very interesting place to spend a couple of days 😉 When did GCN turn into the TopGear of cycling?
@lenahygiena
@lenahygiena 4 жыл бұрын
It always was mate
@DroneShots_UK
@DroneShots_UK 4 жыл бұрын
Indeed, not the greatest GCN video.
@VirgilOvid
@VirgilOvid 4 жыл бұрын
@@DroneShots_UK screw off mate. You need a little variety from constantly talking about bikes and bike parts. It's not like they don't have a good variety either. The racing highlights in particular have become required viewing for me. I'm so glad they're branching out instead of remaking the same bike tutorial vids on a yearly basis.
@Biffo1262
@Biffo1262 4 жыл бұрын
Well it doesn't take a rocket scientist to work that out!
@maxj0930
@maxj0930 4 жыл бұрын
When Jeremy said they could.
@roichir7699
@roichir7699 4 жыл бұрын
There is a reason engineers exist. Not just trial and error.
@Shadowdncer
@Shadowdncer 4 жыл бұрын
Before watching, I'm here to see how fast you can *stop* a caravan with a bike :-D
@bbman85
@bbman85 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, my first thought was "I hope they have a good braking system", only to find out that wasn't even on their radar! Guys, if you didn't know the caravan would plough straight over the bike (and possibly rider), please leave the engineering to the germans in future...
@SakariNy
@SakariNy 4 жыл бұрын
As you probably saw, they did just that! Used an actual bike to stop the caravan. But yes, I was expecting them to have emergyency brake cord or something set up for this. Quite dangerous setup.
@maxj0930
@maxj0930 4 жыл бұрын
About 1/2-way in, the caravan put a stop to the bike. Because it hated.
@ryank1273
@ryank1273 4 жыл бұрын
@@bbman85 Dude, there's no brakes that I know of on the camper, meaning that even if his brakes are new and tuned, he won't be able to stop quickly.
@miket2394
@miket2394 4 жыл бұрын
Get Blake from GMBN to try to tow the caravan using a MTB. I think a MTB might be more suited for this job.
@LuCiPh33R1
@LuCiPh33R1 4 жыл бұрын
You would've thought the wider handlebars would've helped out a lot with stability
@billinhouston3291
@billinhouston3291 4 жыл бұрын
This right here.
@HenrikLundinF
@HenrikLundinF 4 жыл бұрын
My thought exactly. You do not tow a caravan behind your Lamborghini. You need Volvo estate for the job. Give this one to the mudwrestlers...
@jimihenrik11
@jimihenrik11 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly my thought. Also a heavy bike would be better than a super light bike.
@joshuadickson6277
@joshuadickson6277 4 жыл бұрын
Plus the extra grip on the tires and the more powerful breaks
@DaveIsTheBestMan
@DaveIsTheBestMan 4 жыл бұрын
10/10 for effort. 0/10 for planning :-)
@joenne
@joenne 4 жыл бұрын
I don't know why, but the accent of the welder just fills me with absolute confidence in his work
@stuartalexander1595
@stuartalexander1595 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you joenne.
@stuartalexander1595
@stuartalexander1595 4 жыл бұрын
Hello joenne. I have a Facebook page Forth Fabrications where you can view some of my work.
@billinhouston3291
@billinhouston3291 4 жыл бұрын
And the fact that he ground the welds smooth, and then applied primer before painting. That's a man who is obsessed with details.
@jerrygundecker743
@jerrygundecker743 4 жыл бұрын
Look, Ben Stiller is towing a trailer.
@blackchalksounds5278
@blackchalksounds5278 4 жыл бұрын
Lol. I thought that too
@curbowman
@curbowman 4 жыл бұрын
Some tips for the next attempt: - Use fat tires at lower pressure, to increase grip and get better leverage. - Swap the front wheel for one with a smaller radius, like 24", to increase weight on the front . - Change the caravan's tires for the skinnier ones you can get, and inflate them at their highest pressure possible. - Use a thru-axle, steel-frame bike. Another option would be to use a Hase Kettwiesel delta trike. With a solid attachment to the frame, a differential for two wheel drive, and a Schlumpf Mountain Drive, you will have no problems spinning the pedals to move that caravan.
@TheCnoonan123
@TheCnoonan123 4 жыл бұрын
Screw all the training and tech review videos, THIS IS THE CONTENT WE WANT
@stustjohn
@stustjohn 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely! While I quite enjoy those 'Marginal gain' type videos once in a while (when bored) I actively sought this out when I heard about it. "Now that's something I have to see!" I said to myself. Didn't disappoint, although I'm with the person who commented on the lack of a brake for the caravan. Next time I teach Newton's First Law (the law of inertia) I'm showing this to my class!! Cheers Mark/GCN! #GCNphysics #massnotweight
@threeshirescyclist554
@threeshirescyclist554 4 жыл бұрын
Great way to reduce your carbon footprint when on holiday for couples.....just need a tandem......
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe Steve at EMBN could round up an e-tandom for real-life camper towing.
@KandiKlover
@KandiKlover 4 жыл бұрын
Robb Chastain lithium batteries and grid power charging are worse for the environment.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
Two tandies
@LauriAP
@LauriAP 4 жыл бұрын
Tandem is steadier
@TheLaXandro
@TheLaXandro 4 жыл бұрын
* muffled Top Gear noises in the distance *
@brianschiff7371
@brianschiff7371 4 жыл бұрын
So your telling me at the GCN production, meeting with everyone around the table, someone tosses out the idea of "Let's do a video of a bike pulling a caravan" and the person in charge says "Grate idea, let's do it". What next, a video if Simon riding a bike around a pool underwater with a scuba tank on his back. Come to think about it, he's got a Speedo. Let's do it!
@TheJango997
@TheJango997 4 жыл бұрын
"I'm trying to figure out how to get more weight on the front of the bike" Slam that stem!!!
@tonymac6740
@tonymac6740 4 жыл бұрын
use a tandem
@yakwabbit
@yakwabbit 4 жыл бұрын
How about a 650b, or smaller, wheel on the front?
@hilbily4422
@hilbily4422 4 жыл бұрын
ferguson linkage somehow or a gooseneck so hitch is in front of back axle
@pauljarvis9064
@pauljarvis9064 4 жыл бұрын
This must be Clarkson idea of hell ! Good job should done it outside his place 😂
@maxj0930
@maxj0930 4 жыл бұрын
If Top Gear really did motivate this, I wonder why they didn’t do it all in Australia. Because those blokes are just bonkers enuff to wanna do it!
@AveryAbbott
@AveryAbbott 4 жыл бұрын
I've never pulled anything on my bike (except maybe a hamstring). This makes me perfect for this challenge - no limits, no fear. I'd love the opportunity to flop around for peoples' amusement if GCN would like to help set the stage. :-D
@bardenegri21
@bardenegri21 4 жыл бұрын
Can't help thinking a lower gear would make it easier to start. Is this a reasonable idea?
@SickSkilz
@SickSkilz 4 жыл бұрын
Just need a stronger, heavier, guy. Not an endurance racer
@ecp4500
@ecp4500 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing till you realize he will never achieve 25 mph in first and he can't get enough push to change gears in motion.
@RobS49120
@RobS49120 4 жыл бұрын
Rig up a load equalizing hitch to balance the load between the front and rear tyres of the bike. And definitely rig up a way to actuate the caravan brakes!
@Heckerschee
@Heckerschee 4 жыл бұрын
Bike packing done right!
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe bike glamping?
@DazznetITServices
@DazznetITServices 4 жыл бұрын
Mark is an absolute asset to the channel and will be great to see him become a regular member of the team. Dont get me wrong, the lads are all top fellas and are great at what they do but Mark adds different element and takes GCN onwards and upwards.
@matthewheywood9200
@matthewheywood9200 4 жыл бұрын
Fair play! I've lugged a kids trailer with 2 kiddies and a day of beach stuff up hills in Wales. Front pannier is the key. I also have lower gears (30x34). What a beast!
@brannmacfinnchad9056
@brannmacfinnchad9056 4 жыл бұрын
"Man of my skillset" Pretty sure that translates to Capacity for Suffering, Mark.
@VirgilOvid
@VirgilOvid 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't that cycling in a nutshell? Sprinting is who can suffer the hardest, time-trialing is who can sustain the most suffering, and endurance is who can suffer the longest.
@HPaulModels
@HPaulModels 4 жыл бұрын
As crazy as a box of frogs! All that was needed was Matts laugh!!!!!
@tinman7551
@tinman7551 4 жыл бұрын
Is Mark a GCN presenter now ? Oh hell’s YEAH !! He’s an absolute natural in front of the camera and he’s very charismatic 👍🏻🥰 brilliant move GCN !!
@jeffreylines1535
@jeffreylines1535 4 жыл бұрын
Love the can do spirit! No challenge too big, no idea to bonkers. Nice work brother, you are aces in my book!
@9034833838
@9034833838 4 жыл бұрын
Devin "Chocolate Voice" is here
@tombarton7043
@tombarton7043 4 жыл бұрын
‘GCN: The Top Gear of Cycling’ :D great work Mark and well done GCN, great fun :)
@DanielWisehart
@DanielWisehart 4 жыл бұрын
As any heavy boat owner will tell you, comfortably driving down the road at good speed requires just the right amount of tongue weight. If you are going to go faster, you need a new mount that will deliver the load to the bottom bracket so both bike wheels are being loaded by the caravan. Then you move the caravan axle forward and backwards until you get just the right tongue weight, which you find by experimenting. Something like 5-10 lbs would probably be about right for the speeds you want, but be careful: falling and getting run over by a caravan at 25 MPH would be dangerous.
@avoirdupois1
@avoirdupois1 4 жыл бұрын
One of the craziest things I did was hook a trail-a-bike onto my tandem, then hook a 2 child seat trailer to the trail-a-bike and went out with all 4 of my kids riding. It definitely was dodgy in the downhills at speed! I really feel for Mark!
@colinthompson5881
@colinthompson5881 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic crazy idea! Now just need to see Jeremy Clarkson driving behind a bike towing a caravan 😂
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 4 жыл бұрын
Thats nothing, I used to pull a trailer on my paper round WITH SUNDAY SUPPLIMENTS! (extra tv guide weight)
@samvanderroost530
@samvanderroost530 4 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a video of that!
@enmodo
@enmodo 4 жыл бұрын
And it were uphill both ways. Tell that to kids these days and they won't believe you.
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1
@LUCYDIAMONDBOXER1 4 жыл бұрын
@@enmodo 😄very true 👌
@maxj0930
@maxj0930 4 жыл бұрын
OMG! I was LITERALLY just telling my wife about myself doing the same thing, when I was aged 12-15! Sunday was the heaviest,and I had 120 customers! Saddle baskets on the Schwinn Collegiate 5-speed, wagon pulled behind by a rope, and when coming to a stop, I’d let the wagon slip past me, and pull the curved handle backwards over the load, and stop it that way. It was worse in the snow....gawd, I am glad I stopped doing that and got a hardware store job at 16!
@benfield1890
@benfield1890 4 жыл бұрын
Should have gone for a cargo fatbike to sort out the handling issue and allow you to get the power down IMO but BRAVO for the attempt
@davidmorgan9686
@davidmorgan9686 4 жыл бұрын
This is pretty cool. I thought pulling my 12 foot (sit-in) kayak (50 lbs) plus my gear 60-65 lbs was tough.
@gcn
@gcn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks David! Although yours sounds much more fun and practical
@owenchuarbx
@owenchuarbx 4 жыл бұрын
Wished that Mark becomes a full-time GCN Presenter
@barryward2642
@barryward2642 4 жыл бұрын
Iirc he has a full time lecturing position at a Scottish Uni, so full time unlikely
@nerdexproject
@nerdexproject 4 жыл бұрын
This was actually hella cool to watch! :D Thanks a lot for such entertaining videos! 😁
@owenvermeulen1231
@owenvermeulen1231 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job Mark... Hope to see you on plenty more GCN videos to come. New Presenter? Hopefully?
@Joakimfrank
@Joakimfrank 4 жыл бұрын
It's awesome to see Mark make a full episode like this! :)
@twatts4436
@twatts4436 4 жыл бұрын
Has Mark become a member of the team? (It would be excellent if he has)
@thesimplecooks
@thesimplecooks 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares? He's making excellent content with GCN and doesn't appear to be going anywhere!
@prestachuck2867
@prestachuck2867 4 жыл бұрын
We missed Johnny Chocolate Voice Bevan. Welcome back!
@Rejor111
@Rejor111 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I wonder if a caravan that was basically just a covered bed with minimal supplies would be easier to pull, and if that would be more efficient.
@BeetleBuns
@BeetleBuns 4 жыл бұрын
The most amazing thing about this is that you managed to actually get Guinness to document the record. They're notorious for ignoring records unless you constantly throw money at them
@robwl96
@robwl96 4 жыл бұрын
Wow good effort, I found myself pedalling while watching this 😂
@furst6
@furst6 4 жыл бұрын
me too - cringing at my desk
@jesuspascualcamino
@jesuspascualcamino 4 жыл бұрын
That was stupid. And Pointless. And weirdly entertaining to watch.
@ayeshamehboobsheikh6352
@ayeshamehboobsheikh6352 3 жыл бұрын
Global cycling network why did u heart that comment
@dannyhanny1191
@dannyhanny1191 4 жыл бұрын
Finally, Mark is GCN Staff(!). Strikes me that a few sandbags behind the rear axle of the trailer (either inside, as far back as possible, or back on the bumper), and a sandbag (or, better, lead-shot filled bag) over the handlebars, would balance the hitch-weight out nicely enough that you wouldn't need - and wouldn't be hindered by - the little wheel up at the trailer tongue. Surely there isn't a rule of making the trailer, and bike, a tiny amount heavier? Extra weight may seem counter-intuitive, but it's mass that, once you get it going, will be beneficial to the balance of the tractor and trailer. Tiny cars pulling too big of caravans have proven this out over the decades - they generally can get the caravans up to speed on the flats, but their clutches or transmissions normally fail early.
@datstick8284
@datstick8284 3 жыл бұрын
The fact that this is even possible suprised me
@NickyNiclas
@NickyNiclas 4 жыл бұрын
Remove the rear wheel on the bike, weld the bike frame to the caravan and connect the chain to a driving axle on the caravan. Would be way more stable.
@playandteach
@playandteach 4 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't be a bike though.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@playandteach It would be a tricycle.
@NickyNiclas
@NickyNiclas 4 жыл бұрын
@@playandteach I mean yeah, technically its a trike but same principle just better and you'd get more repeatable results.
@playandteach
@playandteach 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R Yes, and it wouldn't be towing a caravan either, it would be a pedal powered motorhome.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@NickyNiclas It could be a different record like, most weight moved by pedal power or highest speed of a ton. Would open up endless possibilities for vehicle design. This record is very restricted, a bicycle and a caravan.
@misanthropickat6167
@misanthropickat6167 4 жыл бұрын
3:25 the microphone wind screen makes me feel like I have caterpillars for eyebrows
@NitrogenBullet
@NitrogenBullet 4 жыл бұрын
Mark is such a fun addition to GCN!
@cyclenutter2715
@cyclenutter2715 4 жыл бұрын
completely agree!
@paulsack9563
@paulsack9563 4 жыл бұрын
I can't stop laughing and I am just 3 minutes in. Keep it up, love you guys!
@christill
@christill 4 жыл бұрын
Penny Farthing caravan towing record next? 😁
@cedarwings82
@cedarwings82 4 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know Ben Stiller was an renowned cyclist
@anononomous
@anononomous 4 жыл бұрын
Exactly the mid point between Ben Stiller and Petr Cech.
@ronbyers9912
@ronbyers9912 4 жыл бұрын
This was funny. An absolute hoot. Mark is really a great sport. Get that man a video showing off his real skills.
@Latchfpv
@Latchfpv 4 жыл бұрын
This video had me cackling from the start. I'll watch just about anything with Mark B in it, this is just absolutely bonkers. More & longer videos please! =D
@dalezapple2493
@dalezapple2493 4 жыл бұрын
I've pulled a number of diy trailers, I can't believe you tried pulling all that weight from just the rear axle. Do you record what gearing in the bike you used during the pull?
@jcjc7783
@jcjc7783 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to try this challenge! I pulled a bike trailer behind my road bike across the United States and it was so difficult!
@bensmith4563
@bensmith4563 9 ай бұрын
I've been seriously considering doing that except with a trike that the camper is built on it won't tip over from going slow that way as I know I won't have the umph to go more than probably 5mph on the flat at least to start out
@jcjc7783
@jcjc7783 9 ай бұрын
@@bensmith4563 do it bro.
@BlokeOnAMotorbike
@BlokeOnAMotorbike 4 жыл бұрын
weighing in with experience at building and towing weird loads on a bike: I built a trailer using a Burley 2-seat and about 100kg of steel plate, what I found while moving a house on its ten foot long deck was to balance the load over the axle to the point where a five year old could lift the front and turn the whole assembly on his own. This way, the standing load on the bike was neutrally balanced on both wheels, and the moving load moved backward on the trailer but FORWARD on the bike (see-saw effect with the ball joint as the pivot). This effect would be mitigated at the front by the rider loading the back wheel maintaining traction and reducing the snake motion. which is caused by loss of traction on the back wheel of the bike and misbalanced load on the trailer. There would be no mitigation at the back of the trailer which would increase the rolling resistance of its wheels by the moving load trying to pull the front up. This is actually an advantage when it comes to stopping. You only use the rear brake on the bike and lean forward to keep the front wheel down since the sudden deceleration pushed the front of the trailer down forcing the front of the bike up, hence total loss of traction. The front wheel is thus basically only for steering as long as you're moving. And yes, 25mph is not beyond the realms of possibility, it is just unbelievably dangerous with a 1500lb static load.
@sergarlantyrell7847
@sergarlantyrell7847 4 жыл бұрын
You can tell none of the people at Guinness are cyclists if they thought 25mph was a good minimum! That said I'm pretty sure I could do better, mostly by modifying the caravan (so it has it's own brakes and balances about the rear axle).
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to try this, I have so much experience towing things with my bicycle. Would it be allowed if the tow hitch on the caravan was modified? It needs to apply the weight just behind and below the saddle on the seat tube. Bike is far too light, you need a much heavier old steel framed mountain bike like mine, 18kg min. Also with heavy weights it's a totally different style of riding. You have to be patient and keep applying the power eventually the speed will gradually increase. If you try to get acceleration it will feel unmanageable.
@lexvandewal8856
@lexvandewal8856 4 жыл бұрын
I built my on car for the bike it weights about 47 kilo its hard to take off but if you go it keeps going at some point its barrely there
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@lexvandewal8856 700kg once moving is no bad deal on level ground. As you've experienced the weight becomes irrelevant until you want to change speed. The problem with the caravan is the large contact patch of the tyres and aerodynamic drag. In Mark's case he was wasting most of his energy in the side to side movement.
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R He probably wants a really fat tire on the back of his bike for that sideways movement.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@kudosbudo Or find a way to tow without creating all the sideways movement, it wastes a huge amount of energy.
@superjoeyman1
@superjoeyman1 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R like using a trike?
@markankone9362
@markankone9362 4 жыл бұрын
A triathletes would say: strenght training on the bike
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
I tow heavy stuff with my bike, its great for getting big legs.
@noorrizkypermana953
@noorrizkypermana953 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R like what?
@markankone9362
@markankone9362 4 жыл бұрын
@@noorrizkypermana953 mother in law
@robbchastain3036
@robbchastain3036 4 жыл бұрын
Plus the speedo would be more aero.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@noorrizkypermana953 A small boat, trailer loads of firewood, been moving gravel for a path this morning.
@LonelyRobots
@LonelyRobots 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure no one wanted to see the trailer run over the bike at 3:25. Fantastic camera work.
@MrCamohoj
@MrCamohoj 4 жыл бұрын
I was rooting for you Mark a superhuman valiant effort , 25 k seems an impossible goal , only maybe for superhuman like yourself to contemplate. 👍👏
@lancelotproll1359
@lancelotproll1359 4 жыл бұрын
25mph target? Seriously? Reckon nobody from Guinness did the maths then, back of a crisp packet calculation I make it about 2000W just to overcome the aerodynamic drag 😂
@super-sim1665
@super-sim1665 4 жыл бұрын
Gearing would suit mtb and they would have more tyre grip.
@anton9507
@anton9507 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooo is Mark an official GCN presenter now?! This is awesome ! Love the guy !
@dalison1
@dalison1 4 жыл бұрын
Good effort Mark. Chris Hoy is one we need.
@toddhenry3249
@toddhenry3249 4 жыл бұрын
Impressive. But the average speed (of trials in each direction) was calculated incorrectly. True, it’s the average of the two numbers, but not your rate over the total of the 50 m “raced”. Rate = distance / time. Distance in each direction was obviously the same, but time was not. At d=25, I get time for the 11.093 run to be 2.476964233 seconds. The other direction was 2.535239834sec. (Actually should use their timing numbers, which presumably are not that precise.) So, the average speed would be 2*50/(t1+t2) = 9.977 km/hr. ( rounded). Still, pretty impressive. So the distinction of the average of the two speeds needs to be made with the average speed. I’m wondering if there are more established speed records where the accepted protocol is to make a timed run over a stretch in both directions and establish the average of the two speeds, and not the average overall speed, as the basis for the record. Anyone know?
@LeroyBishop
@LeroyBishop 4 жыл бұрын
GLOBAL Cycling Network: So plz just use metric! To the physics: Would it be better to put some e. g. Front panniers with weight on the bike and balance the caravan as good as possible with additional weight somewhere (or removal)?!
@bardenegri21
@bardenegri21 4 жыл бұрын
Could attach the caravan more towards the center of mass of the bike. Would require a different jig.
@peterbarnes2845
@peterbarnes2845 4 жыл бұрын
Pleased to see mark working with you guys. The blokes a machine 💪🏻
@SergioCristancho
@SergioCristancho 4 жыл бұрын
Insane and Ridiculous things can happen on a bike, by accident or planned as GCN just show us. nice one for an ultimate laugh.
@gcn
@gcn 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sergio we thought it was a good bit of fun
@kudosbudo
@kudosbudo 4 жыл бұрын
You got an endurance athelete when you need a sprinter/power athelete for this task.
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166
@ellenorbjornsdottir1166 4 жыл бұрын
Endurance sprinters, which don't exist, are the best
@Dirty_white_boy
@Dirty_white_boy 4 жыл бұрын
I would have started out in the easiest cog to get moving like a truck driver.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
That's the way, go through every gear. I think he was in the easiest but roads bikes don't have low gears. My mountain bike I use for towing has a 15t chainring giving 11.5 gear inches. Can spin out at walking speed.
@Dirty_white_boy
@Dirty_white_boy 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R Yes definitely some climbing gears and I like your other responses about a heavier bike. I used to tow my dog around on an old trek that weighed a ton.
@bermuge1
@bermuge1 4 жыл бұрын
Hell yeah Beaumont you're a freaking hero
@luc1181
@luc1181 4 жыл бұрын
Hahhahah this is exactly like trying to bike home after a heavy night of drinking with someone on the back
@Shedinja7
@Shedinja7 4 жыл бұрын
Waw, that tune at 10:24 Striking similarity to Birdland. I like it! Is that just a royalty free track?
@woozertoo
@woozertoo 4 жыл бұрын
Haha-beat me to it! My thoughts exactly.
@maxj0930
@maxj0930 4 жыл бұрын
It is Birdland -ish, esp the electronic rhythm section. Who’s gonna tell the Manhattan Transfer on them,tho?
@altronixvideo
@altronixvideo 4 жыл бұрын
Needs a rigid coupling and a fixing point more central on the bike frame.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
That's what I have for my trailers. The hitch is just behind and below the saddle on the seat tube. With a much heavier 20kg steel framed mountain bike it would be close to the centre of mass.
@ehh300
@ehh300 2 жыл бұрын
id be curious to see this attempted with a ebike in turbo, just to display how badass those make you
@togetrain4403
@togetrain4403 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe a MTB might help with it having a lower gear ratio and then you can start to pick up the speed
@ryanpaolo3638
@ryanpaolo3638 4 жыл бұрын
I’d love to try this I feel like I’d be genuinely good at it
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
I would to I've towed a lot of stuff with my bike. Bet I could invent a better hitch and I'd use a more suitable bike.
@VirgilOvid
@VirgilOvid 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R maybe if he had a more robust bike with extremely low gearing so he could get up to speed slowly?
@jirdesteva
@jirdesteva 4 жыл бұрын
From the start I saw a problem with stopping. I saw the boulder scene from Indiana Jones in my mind, Anyone else?
@davidbierbaum4881
@davidbierbaum4881 4 жыл бұрын
As an engineering tidbit, it may be easier to tow, if you set up an arrangement where the axle of the trailer's jockey-wheel is the attachment point for the bike-to-trailer towing arm, so that the jockey-wheel and the rear wheel of the bike are constantly pointing the same direction, preventing the trailer "tail" from wagging the bicycle "dog", and the weight of the trailer can be more completely decoupled from the tow-arm and bicycle...
@thenamen935
@thenamen935 4 жыл бұрын
With my MTB I regularly pull 70 to 80kg and get to a speed of 25 to 30kmh (15.5 to 18.6mph) on flat grounds. And that already takes a lot of energy, I can't even think about how hard it is to pull a caravan
@Henrix1998
@Henrix1998 4 жыл бұрын
It would have been so much easier if the mounting was designed instead of just built
@nicdorman3826
@nicdorman3826 4 жыл бұрын
Would changing the front wheel to a 26" moved your body weight forward enough? Maybe some TT bars?
@barryward2642
@barryward2642 4 жыл бұрын
I felt the toebar was too far behind the back wheel and so the center of balance, thus lifting the bike. To rectify they had to have the caravan prop wheel on ground and it was swiveling like crazy, creating uneven saying direction
@dalezapple2493
@dalezapple2493 4 жыл бұрын
Could have put some weight over the steerer tube. That would ground the front wheel a little better
@piast99
@piast99 4 жыл бұрын
They should have changed the towing mount completely by lengthening and bending the caravan's tongue and mount the towing ball just by the seat clamp. That way the weight of the caravan would load both wheels.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@piast99 That's exactly how the hitches on all my trailers work, it's the best way.
@dalezapple2493
@dalezapple2493 4 жыл бұрын
@@piast99 the caravan probably was borrowed so modified versions likely not going to happen
@kaydendo3985
@kaydendo3985 4 жыл бұрын
Now the welding part was big brain time
@AndreiNeacsu
@AndreiNeacsu 4 жыл бұрын
Congratulations! That was mighty impressive. I think that with my triple-chainring setup (on 28Fx32R) I could do about 3 km/h for some 15 minutes.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
I use a quadruple chainset for towing. Lowest gear is 15t chainring and 32t sprocket, giving 11.5 gear inches. Can spin 80 rpm at about 2mph.
@AndreiNeacsu
@AndreiNeacsu 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ed.R I don't have anything that specialized, but one of my adventure bikes (almost fat cyclocross bike) has a 26/38/48 x 11-32 setup. It is now that I remembered that I changed the original 28/38/48 with the 26/38/48 that gives me enough toque so I can climb until I fall over my back.
@Ed.R
@Ed.R 4 жыл бұрын
@@AndreiNeacsu I found that for typical mountain biking 12 gear inches is much too low.
@RodrigoOliveira-go1nf
@RodrigoOliveira-go1nf 4 жыл бұрын
It's 2019 and you still confuse mph with kph?
@sbyrstall
@sbyrstall 4 жыл бұрын
Kips per hour??
@arnoldhau1
@arnoldhau1 4 жыл бұрын
Yes I thought Britain has switched to metric long ago... confusing. Even, I am not sure if they talk mph, ist that British or US miles?
@af5579
@af5579 4 жыл бұрын
@@arnoldhau1 there's no difference in UK and us miles Both are 1690m
@arnoldhau1
@arnoldhau1 4 жыл бұрын
@@af5579 Now, yes. But it used to be different before the international standardisation of the imperial system based on metric values... That was kind of my joke... I know, it was not that good.
@TheGoodrum
@TheGoodrum 4 жыл бұрын
They record the speed at 13:50
@jons6125
@jons6125 4 жыл бұрын
This needs revisiting!
@MetalMachineShop
@MetalMachineShop 4 жыл бұрын
I reckon there's space to get the tow bar linkage further forward and closer to the ground which should reduce front wheel lift and wobble. Need better legs than mine to do better than Mark's heroic effort though! Fun vid!
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