I'm not sure if you are aware of the newspapers. I can't remember the issue number, but it was while you play as John. You see on the newspaper that Dutch Van der Linde's wherabout was unknown and how legendary the gang was. So much so that that had songs written about the gang.

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In comparison to real life outlaws, they were exceptionally bad. Going through some of the history of these people in real life, I couldn't find a kill count over 30. Thats a slow day for the Van der Linde gang.

It’s actually a random mission with Javier to rescue bill from bounty hunter’s and he said do you not know who Dutches boys are there coming for me. He spoke like there notoriety as a gang was very high

I'd estimate Dutch is sitting at a bounty of $25'000. Hosea, $10'000, and Arthur obviously $5'000. This would have Dutch valued at just shy of 1 million.

Dutch cares in every way about the gang. I'd say tho as he had to decide between becoming a monster or giving up his past dreams, he has sadly decided the first option. It was too late until he realised what that option costs

I'm wondering if that $1,000 bounty for Dutch was just for strawberry and not statewide, in 1899 News traveled slow and some towns didn't even know or get the news like we see in the game

Most of the members of the gang we see in the game have only been there for a couple of years at this point, so I'm assuming that the gangs "golden years" is when they didn't have so many non-outlaws to care for. Every member would've been deadly outlaws who stole and murdered, not debtors, children, men of faith and petty theives. Assuming my theory is correct, it could be assumed that the Van Der Linde Gangs biggest downfall was that they were no longer a gang of outlaws, but a community of from dirt, bottom of the barrel people who pissed off the government.

My dyslexic ass read that as “WANTED SEX” when I scrolled by and saw dutch

Dutch: Roses are red violets are blue i am wanted in 6 states for tax evasion how about you

I think Micah kept that bounty on Dutch because he was looking to collect and happened upon someone else going to kill Dutch and Micah had a change of heart after saving him.

I think they were pretty notorious, but even Colm recognized how effective Arthur was as said in the dialogue between them upon Arthur’s capture

I would love to see what a prologue of the prologue might look like. Perhaps from the eyes of a younger Hosea

God I hope rdr3 keeps these characters. A trilogy told in reverse would be epic.

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I mean Arthur having higher Bounty makes sense tho. He was the deadliest person in the gang after the death of the Callander Brothers. If they caught Arthur or killed him, they probably knew the Gang would crumble. Its also highly likely that they wabted Arthur to be their pawn like what they eventually did with John in RDR1

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Arthurs bounty was set at $5000 Which today would equate too roughly $180,000 today

I’m curious as to how feared any gang was around that time. Communication was much slower than it is today so I don’t know if they would be feared or even known until they hit their score and vanish.

i love your videos & the content you create i just wish rockstar pumped out content for this game like how they do for gta 5, rdr2 is a great game its just doesnt have any online components that really matter to me i like the pvp modes, i liked grab bag, from rdr1, i like the old mexican standoff how it was "waltons gang vs dutches gang" "you" - then everybody drew their starting pistols & won in the show down or lost in the showdown

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I would say the golden era for the gang;s height was probably in 1899 just for the gangs PERSONAL prosperity, I'm talking about 5 or 4 months before the blackwater heist, with soon to be some of the most well known and feared members, like micah and charles joining, alongside the recruitment of Jenny and Lenny. As for what time was seemingly the best for the day to day enjoyment of life? the years following Arthur joining the gang, so about 1880-1885, as it started as the 3 pals going on bank, stage, train, boat, and home robberies, with noone really on their backs. Plus the recruitment of Grimshaw and John and Pearson

Dutch is easily 20K by the time game starts. Thats just an old poster possibly his first one from years ago

5k in 1899 was 200k today Milton really thought he could trick Arthur

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The gang were so feared and yet Mrs Downes just marches on in univited and starts damning them all 😅

He never said he’d overlook Arthur just that he wouldn’t swing so it’s likely he’ll have been imprisoned or put to work had he taken the deal

did micah keep that ditch bounty newspaper to rat to Milton?

"Have you lost all faith Arthur?"

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Pls make a detailed video about Abigail's betrayal

Out of topic but do you think there’s a possibility that Rockstar could fix john‘s epilogue model? It’s literally the only reason I don’t wanna finish my playthrough

The mentioning of detail to what the Callandar boys were like just makes me wish that if they were to make a prequel to RDR2, we’d get to play as them(either just Mac or possibly even both of them with a GTA V styled character switcher). Maybe get to see the Black Water Massacre, as well as that bar fight in Deer Creek where we as the player would actually have to take down up to 15 guys. Maybe making it a non-Redemption game, Red Dead R(something else), since neither of them ever had a Redemption. Then playing as Arthur in the Epilogue in that time between the massacre and RDR2(not sure how that would work though with how little there is). Just a thought really, it would be neat though, then to play Mac in a final showdown as he gets split up from the gang at Blackwater, killing several dozen lawmen in the process getting more and more shot up, until ultimately being too hurt and dying, Milton showing up around then. Would be a neat story, and another opportunity to explore some characters we don’t even know to make something interesting out of them.

for a sec i didnt see the i in six💀

I never had to eat a turnip in my life, Hosea Matthews

The rdr bunch of bandits dutch runs with are not anywhere near enough threat for ross

At around the 9min mark you comment on Abigails joining of the gang for a reason I doubt it's the reason you think based on other voice lines in the game

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If I had a penny for how many times Dutch said the word faith I would have more money than the gang

I think the $1000 bounty on dutch was accurate and up to date. He rarely actually participates in the dirty work. Arthur does all the real work, while dutch is more of a figurehead, sitting in camp and puffing cigars. While he may be the one ordering the gang around, he's not the one that gets seen committing the crimes.

what is the six state? nuevo paraiso?

I always make Arthur look different from his bounty poster so he won't get "recognized". I love to make him look historically accurate.

ermm... lol abigail wasnt part of the gang *because* of thieving... she may have thieved at some point, but she had another profession :P

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I don't think your evaluation that John came back during the gang's time in Blackwater is strictly correct. Arthur emphasises that Jack was REAL young when John left the gang and John states he left because he didn't want to believe that Jack was his, which leads me to believe John left in 1895 and returned in 1896

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They weren't the most feared gangs, there were a nuisance. They robbed lot of rich folk, and trains, stagecoaches. Not exactly dangerous, also they don't threaten people, it would bring attention to them. The only reason why there rewards are high is because they robbed too much rich people, and goods. If anything, the O'driscolls would be feared, they have bigger numbers, known for their brutality. We can definitely say the O'driscoll boys were around longer, they're peak isn't told to us. But from what we can see, they are at their peak, Dutch always cared about being mysterious, Colm didn't. He makes his gang well known, uniforms, accents, and not caring about being seen in public

What i never understood is why the game punishes you for Robbing stores and stuff (people to like on the road) Correct me if i'm wrong but doesn't the gang do the same thing? They robbed a train with people because they were rich, arthur beat up and killed the people in that bank in valentine. kinda silly. Arthur says to sadie "we only rob folks who rob other people, these guys are just trying to get by" those people had families and arthur even robbed and killed them for being rich. Also you lose honor for killing rapist and defending yourself

This game ain't that deep, this inconsistencies in the stories indicate that

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Milton didn’t identify John because John was the rat and he didn’t want to blow his cover

I believe let's see Arthur was a boy I guess 12 when meet Dutch an Hosea an then it was 5 years they meet John as a boy around 9 years old I guess. So I guess the the real beginning of the van der lindes gang was slow building up but when Arthur was in his 25 an John in 16 when being the enforcer's Arthur the top 3rd in line behind Hosea but was there enforcer boss with John under Arthur number 2 but then u got the bothers that came in then bill an Javier Shawn but then u have to throw in the colm o Driscoll gang that eather was part as soldiers of the van der Linda's gang I think yes Dutch an Hosea gang at the time was low key like Hosea like they money quality at some time an at the time all is well but something's happen with Dutch an the o Driscoll brothers that was the Van der lind gangs soldier or like Dutch sead cole had expendable soldiers to use but Dutch choose the best to be his loyal enforcer's under Arthur leadership i guess but if he struggled with the o Driscoll brothers doing there own thing but not following the rules of the van der lind gangs structure or organization. So yea maybe the van der lind gang was strong enough an was wise enough to have a organize gang at the time an with o Driscoll brothers as leaders of soldiers under them but was at the time was under Dutch and Hosea leadership an Arthur as there Enforcer boss to take care of things when need too an the o Driscoll brothers an there soldiers was like any other gang with soldiers do take out competition or secure territory with there business to make money for the van der lind gang operations. Then way before the black water thing happens something happens that mostly like Dutch an his o Driscoll brothers his I guess Captains of the expendable soldier's was eather getting wrong deal or something but then Dutch killed Cole brother should killed both of them probably would have a lot of soldier under Dutch but i guess like his plans goes he got one brother dead but the other eather got away or was not there but eather way cole got his revenge on dutch wife then after that cole took all what's left his soldiers an made the o Driscoll gang an only took some ideas from Dutch an Hosea that he thinks was good for him but keep his soldiers as expendables but I relay wounded if o Driscoll gang was very much more dum or was they have a system but that's another story.. So after the deaths of one o Driscoll brother an Dutch wife an now we have a Van der lind gang was big an bad an was more like a battalion size but low key but become under a platoon of loyalty member's but could not stay at one place for long to make money like how Hosea probably did for years with more time but after the problem with there o Driscoll brothers soldiers no longer there they could make less money making to give to those in need Plus there gang members pay it seems the van der lind gang's was organized at some point hell look like making lots money an had time Dutch an Hosea got wife's an Arthur had a wife an a 6 year old child doing those time so I think more to the story long before the black water thing an for the six states thing u ever think maybe the van der lind gang control all six states at one time because the O Driscoll brothers was there captain with expendable soldiers with them the van der lind gang was strong an deadly but quite like Hosea wanted but took probably 5 years to control an build up the money making in all 6 stats then some time later when van der lind gang going well Hosea wife died an under the time Arthur kid was born an his wife an his son turn 6 years old was killed an i guess after two years later one O Driscoll brother killed an Dutch wife killed then the break up an lost so much more money an going to war with O Driscoll gang The van der lind gang starts losing an more law enforcement coming after them both but then the black water comes big score but Hosea an Arthur plan would work but I think Dutch was no longer going to Waite with o Driscoll gang on them an law enforcement coming he i think became more recluses then smart after Mitch 6 months Early join the van der lind gang was more about quickly getting money not caring about being smart or how to get things low key like mostly the van der lind gang did have done many many years ago but now all done being low key just recluses one big score an move on do it again an again but after black water now being hunted by law enforcement mostly an o Driscoll gang some times but kill each other when have the chance.. So again the van der lind gang rise an fall an we know about the fall of the o Driscoll gang but not RISE but if Rock Star makes a red dead redemption 3 it would be interesting to see the RISE an Fall of the van der lind gang's an the story they tell before the black water thing personally that would be the very last mission years an years later the Truth about how it happens after all Hosea an Arthur was not there at that time.. again it would be a great game if they take there time an go steps by step in the end u as Dutch an Hosea an maybe John an also Yung Arthur before he what 35 years old in red dead redemption 2. It be nice to understand more about the van der lind gang an the o Driscoll brothers an others was not seen much or was killed before the beginning the Red Dead redemption 2 beginning story plus more.. I think if we think about it at one time the van der lind gang an o Driscoll gang was one an very strong but I think just like Dutch was the boss say Hosea was I guess under boss an Arthur was number 3 in Lin but was boss of the enforcer's he chose the best an then I guess John was Arthur number 2 in the enforcement group plus u got the O Driscoll brothers as the van der lind gang's captains of there soldiers an so much you could do as player in the red dead redemption 3 then RDR 2 ever u could do but much much more.. i guess we see how rock star does RDR 3 mostly like it be very different but we see but i hope it blows RDR 2 out of the water as much i love that game it would be sad if RDR 3 Fails to over take RDR2 or tie it up but be sad that RDR 2 be still number one an RDR 3 don't get closed but goes in Woke crap or just suck again we see good luck rock star keep making good games RDR 2 still damn good i am hooked an can't put Dawn.