How French Infantry are Preparing for War

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Chapters:
0:00 - Overview
0:53 - 2016 Regiment
4:46 - New Anti-Tank
10:27 - New Infantry Squads
13:27 - New Mortar Platoons
15:52 - Loitering Munitions
16:54 - New Robotic Recon Platoons
19:16 - Deep Engagement Company
Sources:
[1] “BASE DOCUMENTAIRE TACTIQUE À L’USAGE DES STAGIAIRES DE L’ÉCOLE D’ÉTAT-MAJOR” Édition 2e semestre 2017 - 1 er semestre 2018, page 239-240
[2] / pfbid044wufybnmlhgcxja...
[3] www.defensenews.com/global/eu...
[4] Technically I believe these are meant to be just 2x Eryx and no MAG per the original 2016 reorganization, but I’m told by a French servicemember in 92e RI that in practice these are Eryx/MAG squads.
[5] Fantassins no. 52, page 16
[6] www.mbda-systems.com/product/...
[7] archives.defense.gouv.fr/terr...
[8] Fantassins no. 52, page 96
[9] Fantassins no. 52, page 97
[10] RAPPORTS LÉGISLATIFS: "Projet de loi de finances pour 2019 : Défense : Équipement des forces", Avis n° 149 (2018-2019), tome VIII, déposé le 22 novembre 2018
[11] Fantassins no. 52, page 18
[12] Slides from "Journée de l'Infanterie" Conference in October 2023
[13] Organograms of French Mechanized Brigade in 1990s/early 2000s
[14] www.asafrance.fr/item/equipem...
[15] www.defense.gouv.fr/terre/nos...
[16] PFT INF 3.2.01/7 - “Manuel d’emploi du groupe d’infanterie”, page 57; Consultation with French servicemembers
[17] Condari : Gazette interne du 92e régiment d'infanterie, No. 56 (February 2024), page 26
[18] www.opex360.com/2024/06/02/la...
[19] Fantassins No 52 page 19
[20] “BASE DOCUMENTAIRE TACTIQUE À L’USAGE DES STAGIAIRES DE L’ÉCOLE D’ÉTAT-MAJOR” Édition 2e semestre 2017 - 1 er semestre 2018, page 333
[21] Fantassins No 52 page 101-102
[22] Fantassins No 52 page 104
[23] www.forcesoperations.com/une-...
[24] www.eos-technologie.com/le-fr...
[25] www.uasvision.com/2024/06/19/...
[26] Fantassins No 52 page 75
[27] Fantassins No 52 page 61
[28] www.knds.fr/en/our-news/lates... , www.thedefensepost.com/2023/1...
[29] story.php/?s...
[30] Fantassins no. 52, page 64
[31] Fantassins no. 52, page 120
[32] “BASE DOCUMENTAIRE TACTIQUE À L’USAGE DES STAGIAIRES DE L’ÉCOLE D’ÉTAT-MAJOR” Édition 2e semestre 2017 - 1 er semestre 2018, page 240-241
[33] Fantassins No 32, page 64
[34] Condari : Gazette interne du 92e régiment d'infanterie, No. 56 (February 2024), page 31
[35] www.linkedin.com/posts/arnaud... ; stampa-paese.com/actus/articl...

Пікірлер: 486
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
4:14 - Minor typo, the Direct Support Platoon is abbreviated as SAD (for Section d'appui direct) rather than SAED, which is the Dismounted Engagement Support Platoon (Section d'aide à l'engagement débarqué). Elaboration to the point at 13:12, apparently the French may be looking at getting more of the 7.62 Evolys than the 5.56 ( x.com/Marsattaqueblog/status/1802982372813557975 ). I don't know if that means the 7.62 Evolys could become a squad automatic in some squads of the platoon, but something to think about
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 2 күн бұрын
OK got it!
@lc1138
@lc1138 Күн бұрын
Peloton-platoon, it's always funny to see how close our languages are.
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 Күн бұрын
@lc1138 That’s because the languages have the same root structure.
@soonerfrac4611
@soonerfrac4611 Күн бұрын
You didn’t reveal who was in charge of waiving the surrender flag!
@adamir-magnumCZ
@adamir-magnumCZ Күн бұрын
Nice too see ypu correct yourself, it would make us Sad if you didnt 👍
@yossarian7859
@yossarian7859 2 күн бұрын
That's it. As a French Army officer, I will quit losing my time reading our own doctrine, and binge watch Battle Order videos instead !
@wayward628
@wayward628 2 күн бұрын
Tell me French national secrets please(totally not a spy trust)
@eroditte3468
@eroditte3468 2 күн бұрын
@@wayward628 The secret BL "Baguette Launcher", it's a weapon of masse destruction that may or may not be usefull if things goes bad on the frontline. But dont tell anyone !
@schlirf
@schlirf 2 күн бұрын
Bon Chance, mon Capitaine. 😎
@alexeysaphonov232
@alexeysaphonov232 2 күн бұрын
c'est comme ce vidéo est devenu vrai.
@longbrigadier
@longbrigadier 2 күн бұрын
Faut que ce soit un étranger qui nous apprenne ça ...
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 2 күн бұрын
How can anybody hate your rectangle based videos!?!
@devon5154
@devon5154 2 күн бұрын
They aren't engaging I guess
@FirstDagger
@FirstDagger 2 күн бұрын
@@devon5154 Of course they aren't engaging, they are staging!
@toplicaj1930
@toplicaj1930 2 күн бұрын
I hate his lgbtq++ trans flag he has wrapped around his channel logo
@kurtwicklund8901
@kurtwicklund8901 2 күн бұрын
The Pentagon?
@toplicaj1930
@toplicaj1930 2 күн бұрын
Pay attention to the flag around his channel icon. You like that agenda?
@boosterh1113
@boosterh1113 2 күн бұрын
11:15 - I think the "resilience" comes from the squad being able to survive the loss of a single team without completely losing its ability to engage a certain kind of target. Under the trinome system, the squad is always one grenade or one autocannon burst away from either losing both of its anti-armour weapons, or the MG and grenadier at the same time. Under the binome system the two anti-armour systems and the two anti-massed infantry systems can be kept separate from each other (because they don't answer to the same team leader), so that even after one lucky hit the squad still has the ability to engage vehicles and massed infantry (and engage at long range, if you count the DMR and MG as redundancies).
@GoldandPearl
@GoldandPearl 2 күн бұрын
thats quite good explanation but if you ask me. none of the current doctrines are good enough. fire teams and support teams must work as buddy and respond to same leader. imagine every rifle squad has 3 man drone support team that can engage in comms real time to operate. basicly you will have minimap leader can mark lokations in real time. with proper fpv drone support no rifle suqad needs anti tank support like it used to be. let grunt be grunt dont make things complicated for them. there is no more massed infantry assult anymore. mg is basicly just fire support unit. russia using 2 by 2 infiltartion tactics. as any fpv drone will target you if you are more then 2 person. and there hundereds flying at the same time.
@paxundpeace9970
@paxundpeace9970 Күн бұрын
The new squad level tactics seem problematic. 5 binoms will be difficult to coordinate and it would be rather more helpful to build two fire teams.
@boosterh1113
@boosterh1113 Күн бұрын
@@paxundpeace9970 I'd imagine they can be rather easily task organized into two fireteams if you wanted. I think the binomes are just building blocks that let you mix and match capabilities. A squad is small enough that you can just say "B,C teams you'll be with me and my A team; Cpl Bloggins, you'll be in charge of E in addition to your own D team." It isn't like a larger unit where you have to sort out staff relationships or people not knowing who their chain of command is.
@schlirf
@schlirf 2 күн бұрын
Uh, as long as the French military doesn't make things TOO complicated, and keeps in mind that these regiments will be refilled by inexperienced troops all to quickly as any given conflicted progresses.
@neurofiedyamato8763
@neurofiedyamato8763 2 күн бұрын
It doesn't seem anymore complicated than how it is currently. Drones are pretty simple to operate. The biggest complexity is EW but that already exists currently, just at higher echelon
@andrewwiggins9262
@andrewwiggins9262 2 күн бұрын
What’s so complicated about it? It doesn’t seem much different than any other modernization program.
@braxtonmoore9246
@braxtonmoore9246 2 күн бұрын
Seems just as complicated as our forces. I don’t see the issue. Soldiering is a profession and they take that seriously.
@gr6373
@gr6373 2 күн бұрын
​@@braxtonmoore9246For the majority of human history, Soldiers have been levies. Professional Soldiers have always been the minority in large scale warfare.
@schlirf
@schlirf 2 күн бұрын
@@braxtonmoore9246 you're correct to a point. But how long does it take to "Make" an 11B, or other MOSs, to the extent that they, each and in group, can be effective in Field?
@scumbagpossum
@scumbagpossum 2 күн бұрын
It definitely seems like the French are taking lessons from the Ukraine conflict. A ton of organic anti tank weaponry, drones for longer range strike missions, and more mobile heavy mortars. However it does seem like that no one is trying to include any anti drone capabilities, for either the battlefield or the rear area, FPV and long range loitering drones have become a very real threat that is cheap and easily mass produceable.
@kurtwicklund8901
@kurtwicklund8901 2 күн бұрын
That may be under the EW unit at regimental level.
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 2 күн бұрын
Their 40mm CTA guns have very effective anti-drone munitions, and the guns elevate up to 85 degrees. The Germans are installing a radiolocation device on their autocannon turrets (on the Puma and Boxer) , to detect the radiation of incoming drones, the guns can automatically target the drones, maybe the French will make something similar. That's on top of dedicated SHORAD and EW equipment.
@MrChocobo12
@MrChocobo12 2 күн бұрын
@@scratchy996 If i remember well, we're testing laser on land for olympic game and on our FREMM so maybe it will be install on griffon one day
@marc9080
@marc9080 2 күн бұрын
la France a anticipé depuis longtemps les conflits symétriques, et aujourd'hui le retour d'info sur le front Ukrainien leur a donné raison! je dirais que c'est une confirmation plus qu'un apprentissage!
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
@@marc9080 if that's the fact then why so few ATGMs in regiment? Why no organic C-UAS? Why there's no plans to expand artillery or Anti- Air Defense?
@archiegeorge3969
@archiegeorge3969 2 күн бұрын
The French are pushing a lot of capabilities down the TO&E! The battalion group commander and staff better get a lot of field time if they want to be good at making the pieces work together 😮
@scumbagpossum
@scumbagpossum 2 күн бұрын
The Ukrainians are doing something similar with their units, having mixed assets like drones, mortars, HMGs, heavy grenade launchers, and atgms. so I imagine the french say that and want something similar
@artykhaan
@artykhaan 2 күн бұрын
Honnestly I think french officers and staff are the best trained in Europe. The Saint-Cyr academy is very famous, and many others europeans countries are sending their own young officers in this academy to be trained
@kurtwicklund8901
@kurtwicklund8901 2 күн бұрын
You summarize it well. Clearly France intends her soldiers to be among the best trained around. Fighting fast and flexible.
@leftnoname
@leftnoname Күн бұрын
​@@artykhaan French armed forces are able to generate real combat capability, but like any other European army, they are heavy on firepower and equipment, unable to absorb personel losses and have a very shallow reserve of manpower. The French (like almost any other Western military organization) will not be able to sustain organized combat with a neer peer opponent for long, as their manpower reserves will attreat and negate their materiel advantage.
@rickfastly2671
@rickfastly2671 18 сағат бұрын
@@leftnoname is that due to them having smaller militaries, or not enough of a recruit able population.
@user-kr7yh8vw9m
@user-kr7yh8vw9m 2 күн бұрын
Your quality never ceases to amaze me, Battle Order, well done. I find your videos about military doctrines including the French Armed Forces ones very interesting.
@longbrigadier
@longbrigadier 2 күн бұрын
Ça doit être plus ou moins son métier..
@E100Omega123
@E100Omega123 Күн бұрын
Saab: We build vehicles Also Saab: We build things that delete vehicles
@Akabeche
@Akabeche Күн бұрын
I mean it's good for business
@CROM-on1bz
@CROM-on1bz 2 күн бұрын
Many tests and reflections, feedback from the war in Ukraine show that the French army seeks to adapt by testing different formulas to find the most effective. It's more of a positive sign I think.
@dmytrovan9965
@dmytrovan9965 2 күн бұрын
It will never know which is better until a real war Even in Ukraine different phases of war have different requirement
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 2 күн бұрын
not really. Skimming on the ATGMs or organic artillery is a big mistake. Also they seem to still don't fully understand how to use or defend against drones.
@Stixxs254
@Stixxs254 2 күн бұрын
@@norbi1411And you seem to talk about stuff you can’t know
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 2 күн бұрын
@@Stixxs254 prove it biatch.
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
@@Stixxs254 strong words for a nobody.
@Meatful
@Meatful Күн бұрын
LOVE the time stamps in the summary. Every video of yours is produced better than the last
@cristianosorio4402
@cristianosorio4402 Күн бұрын
Excellent video, excellent explication of new doctrine of the French army, great Job ❤Love your videos Bro, greetings from Colombia🇨🇴
@zjdaily8690
@zjdaily8690 2 күн бұрын
0:50 that had to hurt 😂
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 Күн бұрын
And this is our newest weapon the AAR also known as "ass attack rocket'
@felixparadis691
@felixparadis691 59 минут бұрын
😂😂
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 2 күн бұрын
NLAW at battalion level is one of the most bizzare things I've ever seen. Next are towed 120 mm mortars in 2024 and 50 km loitering munition at company level.
@dannyzero692
@dannyzero692 2 күн бұрын
Same reason why Ukraine use Javelin missiles at a battalion level but the US use them at a squad level, not everyone can afford to give out expensive weapons for everyone.
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 2 күн бұрын
@@dannyzero692 if money is the issue there's even even less point in keeping mixed AT groups. Instead of 4 Akerons in 3 squads they can have 4 ATGMs in 2 squads. Seven people and one APC less is a lot of money to be saved. BTW comparing Javelin with NLAW is third bizzare thing I've seen today.
@aleksaradojicic8114
@aleksaradojicic8114 2 күн бұрын
It is not that crazy. It is same old Cold war practise of combining recoilless gun like SPG-9 and ATGM like Malyutka, where SPG covers close zone where Malyutka can't arm itself.
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 2 күн бұрын
@@aleksaradojicic8114 quick question. What's the effective firing range of Malutka and Akeron? Is it the same or completely different?
@aleksaradojicic8114
@aleksaradojicic8114 2 күн бұрын
@@norbi1411 Akeron should have longer range. But that is not important. What is important that both have minimum effective range (150m for Akeron and 500m for Malyutka if wiki is correct) and as such you need something different to cover that zone where Akeron can't be used. That is why you get NLAW as part of battalion anti tank teams.
@_ob200
@_ob200 Күн бұрын
Working very close with the French and seeing what griffon brings to the table makes me wish we had something similar
@BravoCheesecake
@BravoCheesecake 2 күн бұрын
Love the video editing and style. Always improving!
@elektrotehnik94
@elektrotehnik94 2 сағат бұрын
I really like the new style 🏆 Nothing wrong with the old one - this one is just so much better! ❤ Well done
@alexzima6963
@alexzima6963 2 күн бұрын
The quality of your videos is going up like crazy. Excellent video.
@samdumaquis2033
@samdumaquis2033 22 сағат бұрын
Great document
@an_f-14_tomcat
@an_f-14_tomcat 2 күн бұрын
More French weirdness WOO!
@lafaucheuse2001
@lafaucheuse2001 2 күн бұрын
Well given the results in Mali it does work, so why complain.
@takunveritas
@takunveritas 2 күн бұрын
in the frenchiest accent: where is your battle buddy?!
@kurtwicklund8901
@kurtwicklund8901 2 күн бұрын
It does not seem like a complaint. He posted, "WOO!". Sounds lime a fan.
@an_f-14_tomcat
@an_f-14_tomcat Күн бұрын
@@kurtwicklund8901 this guy gets it
@jaremakarwowski1574
@jaremakarwowski1574 2 күн бұрын
Modern Polish artillery units (REGINA modules) next. You csn also take a look at GLADIUS loitering munitions system.
@buckplug2423
@buckplug2423 2 күн бұрын
A video on a WOT brigade would be pretty cool too
@davidlim2682
@davidlim2682 2 күн бұрын
A very comprehensive explanation as usual.. Keep it up!
@clementaut7287
@clementaut7287 2 күн бұрын
Super vidéo !
@brunol-p_g8800
@brunol-p_g8800 Күн бұрын
That VBL replacement vehicle looks really badass. And I’m waiting for the French army to retire their VBLs to get one (they’re really badass, 4x4 and amphibious). The perfect vehicle.
@lordtemplar9274
@lordtemplar9274 Күн бұрын
The VBL is scheduled for replacement by the VBAE, which is process of choosing the design. the VBAE is due to enter service in early 2030s
@KaptifLaDistillerie
@KaptifLaDistillerie 17 сағат бұрын
The sound of the VBL when you're inside of it is a torture imo
@guillaumefigarella1704
@guillaumefigarella1704 2 күн бұрын
waouh this is so much work, its also beautifully made, you never disapoint Battle Order! what id like to know is what you actually think about all that? you are probably the kind of guy that think he is not competent enough to give its opinion because you actually understand how complicated it all is, but dude, you are so much more aware about those things compared to average "Jean", i'm pretty sure you could give a an educated guess without sounding pretentious! i'm also pretty sure that if theres a mistake, the large amount of actual military personnel that are watchinbg your content with awe seeing a not even french dude explain all this in a much clearer fashion than any official document would love to give their opinion and insights
@RubahGurun-ow8mk
@RubahGurun-ow8mk 2 күн бұрын
I love content like this bro 👍
@karlotto689
@karlotto689 2 күн бұрын
Thanks❤
@AXXeYY
@AXXeYY Күн бұрын
sweden is buying them gucci Akeron MP!! good to see swedish-french cooperation
@artykhaan
@artykhaan 2 күн бұрын
Just a precision, a first mortar support platoon has already been formed in an infantry regiment, the 13th Half-Brigade of the Foreign Legion (13e Demi-Brigade de Légion Étrangère), you can see a post about that on the tiwtter account of the unit.
@trixter5071
@trixter5071 2 күн бұрын
0:50- Коварная атака жэпы
@512TheWolf512
@512TheWolf512 2 күн бұрын
a modern army without a LOT of drones and specialists to use them, is doomed to lose. absolute certaintly.
@dragonmares59110
@dragonmares59110 Күн бұрын
Exactly, what we see here is France still stuck in the cold war mentality of war and not learning anything from Ukraine.
@siretriste4045
@siretriste4045 Күн бұрын
The French army does have specialist drone regiments that will provide support to GTIA (expeditionary brigades). What you saw there was a pow from the regiment level, which also includes drones to a degree
@stephenwills980
@stephenwills980 Күн бұрын
@@dragonmares59110 but they just gained drones and specialist???? did you not watch the video XD
@afrenchdude5331
@afrenchdude5331 Күн бұрын
15:50 watch the damn video before commenting.
@alex-ragnarson3482
@alex-ragnarson3482 23 сағат бұрын
We have a lot of drones per infantry regiment now, with a dedicated platoon for recon and destruction with drones
@rhylsaldar
@rhylsaldar Күн бұрын
« Debout soldats d'Auvergne, debout ça va barder ! » « À moi… ! Auvergne… ! ».
@pygargue56
@pygargue56 Күн бұрын
Particularly interesting video on a subject that can be difficult to produce for a non-French speaker. @BattleOrder: On the other hand, the reorganization is so massive that organization charts in image form would be useful for French speakers who are interested, as is my case. Is it possible ?
@buckplug2423
@buckplug2423 2 күн бұрын
Adding a commando platoon to every regiment/BTGr is a really cool idea, and it's interesting to see all those NATO militaries starting to embrace deep battle concepts, focusing both on frontline and backline troops equally. Imagine how difficult it would be for a Russian or Chinese mechanised unit to operate if their C3 had to stay far away from the actual line units due to fear of being destroyed by a bunch of madmen running around their rear, getting constantly targeted and jammed. Lightning war is great and all, but we can see how armored pushes are oftentimes rarely viable like in Ukraine, so having a capability to put pressure and push an enemy without exposing your main body is a really great capability to have.
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
why use "commadno" when you can just order artillery barrage...
@StormerSixActual
@StormerSixActual Күн бұрын
​@@norbi1411Counterpoint: Counter-Battery Fires
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
@@StormerSixActual still safer than sending man
@StormerSixActual
@StormerSixActual Күн бұрын
@@norbi1411 How in the world is that safer? You'll have a higher chance of losing more men AND equipment if an entire battery is exposed to the enemy artillery
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
​@@StormerSixActual because SPGs, MLRS usually provide better cover and survivability for their crews
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 Күн бұрын
The rush for better indirect fire support is similar to Thailand's own rush for more mobile indirect fire support options after the border wars they had with Laos & Cambodia - especially with the threat of the Myanmar Civil War leaking over the border into Thailand. It was Thailand's own experience with French Artillery Systems like the Caesar SPH and GIAT LG1 Howitzer that made them develop their own domestically produced M758 SPH (co developed with Elbit) and CS/AH2 Light Howitzer (co developed with Chinese Poly Technologies).
@TheFearsomePredator
@TheFearsomePredator Күн бұрын
"bu-but the-they will surr-surrender" -Liittle Timmy🤡🤡🤡🤡
@shaolinmatadordeporco4246
@shaolinmatadordeporco4246 22 сағат бұрын
Great video, but when is the video about Brazil coming?
@andrewpiltenko9432
@andrewpiltenko9432 2 күн бұрын
You forgot the dedicate baguette platoon on company level.
@tm2bow653
@tm2bow653 Күн бұрын
That's the job of the 7th company. But you can't understand.
@Titi-pourris
@Titi-pourris Күн бұрын
​@@tm2bow653lol
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 2 күн бұрын
Are there any plans for Turkish military formation videos in the future? I am interested in their MRAP mounted infantry.
@cpob2013
@cpob2013 13 сағат бұрын
That certainly sounds interesting but it seems turkey has taken a deal with Russia to stay uninvolved.
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 11 сағат бұрын
@@cpob2013 Huh?
@le_ptitsuisse2618
@le_ptitsuisse2618 2 күн бұрын
7:50 also in switzerland! Each group has max 2 nlaw or matador
@TornadoADV
@TornadoADV 17 сағат бұрын
Are we regressing? All the battlefield vehicles are starting to look like armored civilian trucks.
@verbatim545
@verbatim545 3 сағат бұрын
I’ve noticed that as well, but I don’t think that’s a bad thing. Consider it like this - An armoured car or IFV will almost certainly become a mission kill at minimum if struck by most infantry anti-tank, and though crew survivability is better, it’ll become inoperable or destroyed just the same as something cheaper and smaller. What the Russo-Ukrainian war taught us is that even our most expensive toys are going to be vulnerable to anti tank, drones, artillery, the like. There’s also the matter of cheapness as I said. Civilian vehicles bought for or repurposed for military uses isn’t that uncommon even in western countries where it makes up part of the array of support vehicles. In a grinding war where equipment and manpower loss is high, then for the simpler jobs it makes sense to supplement simpler things rather than always using a fully armoured vehicle with guns and the lot.
@venpirethevampire
@venpirethevampire 2 күн бұрын
Are there any plans for Turkish military formation videos? I am interested in their MRAP mounted infantry.
@alkfouq8762
@alkfouq8762 Күн бұрын
3:00 the VAB is also 4x4 in most cases, even in the picture you showed.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder Күн бұрын
6x6 was in reference to the Griffon
@stephenwills980
@stephenwills980 2 күн бұрын
awesome video :D, could you do a video on how austrian-hungary units were structured please? great channel :D
@andresrasmussen96
@andresrasmussen96 Күн бұрын
I'm impressed on how accurate this is...
@rollolol6053
@rollolol6053 9 сағат бұрын
The French infantry have a magazine in which they publish quite the detailed pieces of info. It’s called Fantassins and is available in both French and English on the Internet.
@Alex-pu5lz
@Alex-pu5lz 2 күн бұрын
00:49 lol, lmao even
@Sufferingzify
@Sufferingzify Күн бұрын
The Small Quadcopter Bomber Drones should really be relegated to Company level, specialist Squad, attached to C&C, since they double as Reconnaissance (full team of 2x4). So you can upsize for Artillery Tube/Rocket Battery's using bigger Recon drones. The Tactical Loitering Munition (Shorter range Kamikaze) Drones should be organized as 1 whole platoon, since strikes are person directed, and provide incidental recon, and being able to be attached to Companies ad-hoc. The Medium Range Drones (Kamikaze + Recon) should be given as a whole Company and to be attached to Brigade level units, same who can direct Extended Range Fires.
@tm2bow653
@tm2bow653 Күн бұрын
You should make a video about the 7th company.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 2 күн бұрын
WOW COOL!
@mustavogaia2655
@mustavogaia2655 2 күн бұрын
18:29 - that looks like a motorized bicylcle
@johnsmith-jq1uc
@johnsmith-jq1uc 2 күн бұрын
is it not?
@kalinmir
@kalinmir 2 күн бұрын
yea its an ebike
@mustavogaia2655
@mustavogaia2655 2 күн бұрын
@@kalinmir tactical byke?
@kalinmir
@kalinmir 2 күн бұрын
@@mustavogaia2655 idk, I see those on the regular on a hike
@mustavogaia2655
@mustavogaia2655 Күн бұрын
@@kalinmir Tactical hike, then. Putin thought that the Ukraine incursion were just a tactical hike.
@brothercoconut6599
@brothercoconut6599 17 сағат бұрын
Thanks, very informative we will make sure to learn this for future confrontation
@TornadoADV
@TornadoADV 17 сағат бұрын
I'm noticing a distinct loss of anti-material capability in these "future fighter" programs. Gone are the heady days of the Cold War when a US infantry squad would have at least 1 LAW per trooper with most having 2 or more being the typical order of the day. Now, going by at least the French, it's at most 3 per PLATOON.
@RichelieuUnlimited
@RichelieuUnlimited Күн бұрын
At 60-100k per NLAW the upcoming MBDA Enforcer X should be a far better choice as it should in the same price range but utilizes an active seeker instead of PLOS (Predicted Line of Sight). Germany is acquiring several hundred of the general purpose Enforcer s as the „Leichtes Wirkmittel 1800+“, based on the cost of the whole order and the number of units acquired its price is less than 90k a piece.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder Күн бұрын
I think the difference is NLAW is a known quantity that’s been in service with several NATO members for years and can be delivered relatively quickly. It is only meant to be an interim solution afterall. 60-100k was the figure quoted in Fantassins but I couldnt find a proper source on it. I’ve seen claims NLAW is cheaper, like 30-40k per unit
@mahmoodali5043
@mahmoodali5043 2 күн бұрын
thanks for the video. The old clean graphics were much better than the new arcade game sounds and 90's DOS computer screen effect though.
@john75RRC
@john75RRC Күн бұрын
the rectangle based content is what one's here for!
@Tekisasubakani
@Tekisasubakani Күн бұрын
Maybe I'm just dumb, but the electronic warfare platoon being named the SRGE [so surge ala power] cracks me up.
@commandercody.6108
@commandercody.6108 Күн бұрын
He acknowledges those who come here just for the squad pictures with guns.
@pearthegaybear9968
@pearthegaybear9968 2 күн бұрын
I appreciate pushing equipment down the TO&E, especially the organic AT, but something about two man fireteams just doesn't really gel with me personally.
@stupidburp
@stupidburp 2 күн бұрын
80% of casualties in Ukraine are from explosive weapons. Greater dispersion directly reduces casualties from area effect weapons.
@sotemot
@sotemot 21 сағат бұрын
What is the backround music?
@olejnik5165
@olejnik5165 Күн бұрын
Please make videos about some niche armored forces I want to know a squad composition and doctrine of brazilians peruvians malaysians etc
@mosesracal6758
@mosesracal6758 Күн бұрын
With Sweden now in NATO, perhaps we can see an actual standardization at least in terms of AT systems?
@player-op1lr
@player-op1lr 2 күн бұрын
I like your channel so much, can you please make a video about the formation of the 506th Parachute Regiment in ww2 and also the formation of the Headquarters Company and the Headquarters of the 2nd Battalion in detail? Please
@alfredlu7228
@alfredlu7228 2 күн бұрын
what are the footages of 11:37-11:41?
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ra2RfbN3l8CWqWw.html
@mr.apsylone9191
@mr.apsylone9191 2 күн бұрын
Exercice Orion
@darkdan3379
@darkdan3379 2 күн бұрын
The technology has changed and so must the tactics and level of intelligence of the volunteers...
@nikolaideianov5092
@nikolaideianov5092 Күн бұрын
Grunts will be grunts IQ isnt in their job requirment
@darkdan3379
@darkdan3379 Күн бұрын
@@nikolaideianov5092 it's not about the level indoctrination called IQ, real intelligence comes from proper training and real technologies that assist...
@AouebAyari
@AouebAyari 2 күн бұрын
I BEG YOU to do naval content . My dream is to become a captain but lack info on fleet orgnization.thanks!
@Red-238
@Red-238 2 күн бұрын
20:01 Sorry for my ignorance, but what happened to the US Army’s Penetration Divisions?.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
They've renamed it a few times, first to Heavy (Reinforced), maybe something else after that and now I guess the name is Armored Strike Division lol
@Red-238
@Red-238 2 күн бұрын
@@BattleOrder thanks
@zaco-km3su
@zaco-km3su 18 сағат бұрын
The RB57/NLAW has to be carried by 2 soldiers. I suspect they will modify this in a few months. The video was made just to get some views.
@kassthered8452
@kassthered8452 2 күн бұрын
While I really enjoy the old school visuals you use for the unit structure, the typing sound effect when new text appears is too intrusive/takes me away from the narration. Gonna come down to taste ofc but I feel like toning that sound down a bit would be good!
@Matt-yl3iq
@Matt-yl3iq 2 сағат бұрын
Rectangle based content is what I live for.
@ElloEllo12314
@ElloEllo12314 Күн бұрын
Friendly fire! 0:50
@caracallaavg
@caracallaavg 2 күн бұрын
Is that a jet powered loitering munition?
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
Yes, KNDS's Larinae option has a Veloce 300 jet turbine
@caracallaavg
@caracallaavg 2 күн бұрын
@@BattleOrder never knew I need one but now I want it
@kalinmir
@kalinmir 2 күн бұрын
@@caracallaavg for daily carry self defense purposes?
@Tannerplus1
@Tannerplus1 Күн бұрын
Just as the founders intended ​@@kalinmir
@user-mc3lk3me2n
@user-mc3lk3me2n Күн бұрын
Infantry used to be a guy with a musket standing in a line formation. Now infantry has to go up against tanks, drones, aircraft, and machine guns. They have better weapons and technology to accomplish this but war seems to keep getting more and more deadly how long until infantry can no longer be effective against the weapons of the future. Or will infantry continue to evolve with special armored suits and weapons.
@dardo1201
@dardo1201 2 күн бұрын
You mentioned the Franco-German unit, does the mixed Belgian unit also fit into this?
@kurtwicklund8901
@kurtwicklund8901 2 күн бұрын
If I counted right France is reorganizing into 19 regiments yes? That's actually a pretty sizeable number of trigger-pullers. Among those 19 are a large number of specialized units. Hmm. I think you have to credit France for getting incredible value from her defense spending. Value as compared to other nations of course. Army navy air forces all modern and sizeable, and oh yes strategic nuclear weapons. Compare her to the UK or Germany, who spend comparable monies.
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 2 күн бұрын
Salary in the French armed forces is nowhere near UK or even Germany. That's how. Salary is a major part of defense expenditure. Fresh lieutenant, monthly: France: 2,108 € UK: 3,052 € Germany: 3,366 € Fresh enlisted monthly: France: 1,537 € UK: 1,446 € Germany: 2,275 € A fresh German enlisted makes more than a fresh French lieutenant.
@BFOP15
@BFOP15 2 күн бұрын
​@@jonny2954: The salary you mention are true but are at least doubled when a French soldier goes abroad in a fighting mission,(Opex) thing French army does for thirty years. I believe that is not the case for a british or german officer. ( same salary at the barracks or thousand kilometres away) 3000 euros at home or abroad is not the same. and sorry but 3000 euros is a shitty pay when you can’t see your relatives for 6 months or more. The fact that you earn more when you’re away is also a way to make your family accept the situation.
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 2 күн бұрын
@@BFOP15 Germans get "Auslandsverwendungszuschlag" too. Depending on the threat level of the mission from 48 € (fobbits) up to 145 € (combat arms) tax-free _per day_ . So a maximum of 4350 € monthly on top of the base salary. A Infantry Lieutenant comes back from a 6 month combat deployment with 26,100 € tax free on top of his base salary. Note: Base salary also increases even further if you have children.
@buckdanny9062
@buckdanny9062 2 күн бұрын
@@jonny2954 Being paid so much to do so little must be nice
@jonny2954
@jonny2954 2 күн бұрын
@@buckdanny9062 In the example of a Mechanised Infantry Lieutenant as a platoon leader that man has responsibility for 36 Soldiers and more than 52 Million € of equipment. Not so little.
@melaninfarmer
@melaninfarmer 2 күн бұрын
THey have the FFL. They are probably the most experienced fighting unit apart from SF teams. They get the most combat experience.
@Zephyriia
@Zephyriia 2 күн бұрын
The Hecate II? Bro I haven’t seen that since Sinon from SAO GGO 😂
@bikesfrench8524
@bikesfrench8524 16 сағат бұрын
the best 😅
@Sirilere
@Sirilere Күн бұрын
Excellent video! Hope you do one on each NATO nation's army and marine forces, which could be deploying into Ukraine. Then, one on the Russians, North Koreans, and Chinese would be outstanding.
@Javi4610
@Javi4610 Күн бұрын
I’m still wondering if they’re going to adopt a 338 lm platform for their snipers, for the moment they’re one of the few European army’s with no intermediate caliber between the 7.62 and the 12.7
@lordtemplar9274
@lordtemplar9274 Күн бұрын
Regular Infantry don't, but French special forces do. They have sniper rifles like Finnish rifle Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua Magnum and Canadian rifle Cadex CDC-40 Shadow in .408 Chey Tac
@micahsonnenschein3907
@micahsonnenschein3907 2 күн бұрын
Arctic Airborne Mortarman here 😊
@joshfuss777
@joshfuss777 23 сағат бұрын
Not complaining about baguettes, but just curious why? Special personal interest? Have a lot of sources?
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 23 сағат бұрын
They do a lot of whacky things which I find interesting
@itzfrken
@itzfrken Күн бұрын
I’m no military officer or analyst but I can’t help but feel utterly confused at the lack of SAWs… Everyone’s just focusing on ATs but no anti infantry focused weapons…
@Hussard-ch9wx
@Hussard-ch9wx Күн бұрын
Their is 2 AT4 in each squad which can be select between 3 type including anti personal
@lordtemplar9274
@lordtemplar9274 Күн бұрын
They have M249 SAW in France they just call it the FN Minimi. It's the same gun made by FN Herstal. The Minimi will be replaced by the new FN Evolys for the French Infantry, (it is already used by French special forces)
@alainrouleau
@alainrouleau 2 күн бұрын
Just saying as a former Canadian infantryman who's worked at the section, platoon, company and battalion level. And with the French, British, Americans, Germans, Norwegians, you name it... Three ways of doing things! # 1 You take ALL of your combat support guys, you know, anti-tank, reconnaissance, snipers, assault pioneers, machine gunners, motarmen, split them up and put them into a platoon or rifle company. A bit messed up. # 2 You take ALL of your combat support guys and have an assault pioneer platoon, an anti-tank platoon, a reconnaissance platoon with snipers, a mortar platoon, you name it, and assign them to various tasks. # 3 You throw the org chart out the window! And assign motarmen, machine gunners, anti-tank, assault pioneers, combat engineers and snipers, air defence, you name it, based on requirements. Think Afghanistan. Hate to state the obvious but modern warfare is all about flexibility! Also known as the battle group, combat team, strike force, task force, call it whatever you want. Now, the French are good. But not necessarily better than anyone else when it comes to organizing their troops.
@latoop3359
@latoop3359 2 күн бұрын
Can you make the French paratroop squad structure too?
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
I don’t believe their squads are different? At least not the conventional airborne units, idk what 1er RPIMa is like
@michaelarmstrong9722
@michaelarmstrong9722 Күн бұрын
We are truly living in an age of advanced warfare.
@jeangriot222
@jeangriot222 Күн бұрын
tu sais ce qu'elle te dit la baguette?🤣 sinon bonne vidéo
@jordanpohl6856
@jordanpohl6856 2 күн бұрын
Well looks like the cold war doctrine came back for round two. Shame the Marines got rid of the scout snipers just like they do before every war before restarting it once things pop off again.
@lachlanwelsh5880
@lachlanwelsh5880 Күн бұрын
Seriously? Only 40k odd…? Sheesh, your work is excellent. Deserves a LOT more people taking an interest than that. Then again… you are asking for peoples attention AND for their brains to be engaged at the same time. One helluva(‘n) ask… Oh well. I am happy to share yr work with a relatively small group like this. As George Orwell once said (in 1984 no less): “Sanity is not statistical”
@empyreal_lord
@empyreal_lord Күн бұрын
Aw, but I like the rectangle-based content!
@ryan7775
@ryan7775 Күн бұрын
NLAW i think is about half that cost but i could be wrong
@RichelieuUnlimited
@RichelieuUnlimited Күн бұрын
At that price waiting for the MBDA Enforcer X might be the better choice. Germany is buying the general purpose version at less than 90k a piece and it has an active seeker instead of PLOS.
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder Күн бұрын
I also suspect it’s cheaper but couldn’t find a more authoritative source than what the Fantassins article said. That’s why I put “possibly less”
@cyrilchui2811
@cyrilchui2811 2 күн бұрын
Too many NLAW? What happen if enemy has not too many vehicles but mostly light infantry? Would Mortar + MG be more useful?
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
Task organizing with more machine guns and leaving the ATGMs in a low-armor threat environment is a lot easier than pulling a bunch of ATGMs out of thin air if there is a high armor threat and you're not prepared
@scumbagpossum
@scumbagpossum 2 күн бұрын
I am sure they are thinking along the lines of the Ukraine conflict, where the RUAF uses large amounts of tanks and apcs spread out over a area. Giving a lot of ATGMS spread out over a unit will give them firepower needed to deal with them, plus with squad's having DMRS, Grenade launchers and LMGS as well as having mortar's, loitering drones, and vehicle mounted weapons theres more than enough to deal with infantry
@Gilannun12
@Gilannun12 Күн бұрын
Nice video 9/10 needs more rectangles.
@holdenchute7883
@holdenchute7883 Күн бұрын
The NLAW the modern Panzerfaust
@RichelieuUnlimited
@RichelieuUnlimited Күн бұрын
That title goes either to the Panzerfaust 3 or the RGW 90 MATADOR. I also have doubts if the NLAW is going to be all that popular once the MBDA Enforcer X hits the market.
@kakakiri2601
@kakakiri2601 Күн бұрын
How about foreign legion?
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder Күн бұрын
The foreign legion infantry regiments are organized the same as other regiments of their type
@royely3466
@royely3466 2 күн бұрын
How about the units of the French foreign Legion are they getting their organizations changed
@BattleOrder
@BattleOrder 2 күн бұрын
Their units are organized like any other French Army unit
@royely3466
@royely3466 2 күн бұрын
@@BattleOrder I know sometimes they're treated like a separate branch of the French military but they're getting reorganization just like anyone else
@user-aero68
@user-aero68 2 күн бұрын
@@royely3466 They're not treated like a separate branch but, together with French Marine regiments, they are the go-to troops (but not only) for overseas deployment. This makes sense since historically both basically formed the core of France's colonial troops.
@royely3466
@royely3466 2 күн бұрын
@@user-aero68 ok i was mistaken
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 2 күн бұрын
​@@royely3466well there is one difference. They have 0 logistics roles. It's all combat roles.
@Marlon044
@Marlon044 20 сағат бұрын
I used to think they are useless, but most armies should have the M72 to all units, ukraine has shown you may come across dugouts and bunkers and they are light and good compared to even the at4 in terms of weight, like us canadians first putting optics on squad automatics, now everyone does it and we are not mocked,, same should be said on canada use of m72, don't mock us, think, every 2nd man can have something for short range use.
@livelovelaugh2130
@livelovelaugh2130 Күн бұрын
War with whom?
@EliHaNavi
@EliHaNavi Күн бұрын
Main question: will they still be chomping on Russian baguettes?
@sapprdaddy
@sapprdaddy 2 күн бұрын
What is France designing for?
@murphy7801
@murphy7801 2 күн бұрын
Africa and a war in Europe mostly.
@user-bq6wn4nn3j
@user-bq6wn4nn3j Күн бұрын
​@@murphy7801, да ладно, зачем в Африке ПТУР? 😂
@GrandeOrientedNdrangheta
@GrandeOrientedNdrangheta 23 сағат бұрын
Very interesting video, but who saw it at 00:50 ? 😶
@markboian3802
@markboian3802 Күн бұрын
@18:30 that "do a wheelie" got me lolin😂
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan 2 күн бұрын
I wonder why France operates both the Serval and the Griffon. Looking just at the Wikipedia page it seems the Serval offers a lot of benefits for not a lot of drawbacks (lighter without sacrificing armor or capacity for instance). Anyone know what the benefit of the Griffon is that isn't borne out by this, I know, quite crude source of information?
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
higher STANAG level.
@Paveway-chan
@Paveway-chan Күн бұрын
@@norbi1411 Not according to wikipedia, it says both have STANAG 4, but it could obv be wrong
@norbi1411
@norbi1411 Күн бұрын
@@Paveway-chan that's without additional armour, which 6x6 can take much more than 4x4.
@blitzhill9533
@blitzhill9533 Күн бұрын
maybe more equipment capacity for the troops and possibility for additional armour ? Also they are not meant for the same type of units/tasks, the Griffon is to be the main APC of the french army, the Serval is there to complement the Griffon for lighter units/tasks (recon, convoy, patrol) and also give an armored vehicle to support units that previously used unarmored vehicles
@GTO6006
@GTO6006 3 сағат бұрын
Different mission profile : Mission autonomy (Griffon 72h / Serval 48h) Air-deployable units by one single aircraft Different equilibrium : mobility (light) + discretion (low-profile) vs. Max autonomy (stuff carried) + max protection + confort (living space)
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