Gunbreaker's like an awesome pair of shoes that have a rock under the soles.

If continuation didn't go away after pressing almost any other gcd that would help a lot along with no mercy changes

They could just make the gnashing fang combo like the red mage melee combo. Instead of building up for a verholy/verflare, you build up for a big continuation hit to use anytime you like.This way it reduces the number of ogcds used in nm window, allowing more defensive ogcds to be used instead. This also makes moving the boss less frustrating as well

Continuation on Fated Circle and double down would have been cool, but on Burst Strike, kinda weird. That skill felt like utility for defensive weaves and moving the boss alot of the time and no longer can be that flexible GCD during no mercy

They should make it so continuation can hold up to 3 charges and the abilities just give you a continuation charge so you can delay its use if you need to use a defensive.

Been picking up GNB since 6.1 dropped and completely agree. Any time you have major responsibilities SOMETHING has to be sacrificed in some way, and it feels bad. Outside of the times you have responsibility? Feels good, man.

If the PLD can have a 25 second Fight or Flight that increases damage by 25%, the GNB can have a 25 second No Mercy that only increases damage by 20%. I also feel like that third cartridge was added simply to pad out the GNBs traits section of the skill book more so than to give Double Down and excuse to cost 2. They could have easily made it a 60 second CD like Sonic Break and only cost one cartridge and give that trait slot to extending No Mercy.

I agree that the no mercy time period needs to be extended (maybe for a longer cool down or some potency nerfs) only under perfect circumstances can I fit everything into the burst now

Are we getting a video for each tank? That would be really great, loving the content

Great video. Please Can you make an updated rotation video so i can see how to use all the new moves correctly. I would like to see the way you would do it. Appreciate everything and love the content

I agree that gunbreaker is design as a dps first. It might’ve been intended to be a dps which shared gears with dragoon but reaper took that role :)

Continuation should be a builder-spender thing (the cartridge moves could build the gauge) - that way you can spend it on demand when you aren't moving the boss or having to spam defensives.

So from this what changes do you wish they would do to gunbreaker, baring getting rid of continuation and the increase in time on no mercy duration?

Good overall video ! What is the song playing during the video ?

What weapon glam is he using?

I literally worship in the temple of Heart of Corundum. I sing it's praises constantly. I have soloed level 90 dungeon bosses with Heart of Corundum.

Yeah the issue of gunbreaker is timing and you have to find the right time to pop off which is either you don't help raid wide mitigation or you hope to all hell you get covered for tank buster. I feel that maybe if they fix skill speed no mercy would be fine. But it is short

Great video as always brother! Will you share your thoughts on the other Tanks for this patch? Would be great take care

Now that I've watched this dedicated video, I think you're right that extending no mercy would do more than most people give it credit for when it comes to fixing potential clunkiness and frustration. just having the 2 extra GCDs inside the burst window gives you room to weave defensive cooldowns between all the dps weaves.

will it be ok if continuation is a ranged ability then? so by then you can pull the boss while doing dps?

Ngl, as the filthy gunbreaker causal I am, the job is so much fun until I have to do something, if there is a buster or I need to move the boss then I’m having a rough time but otherwise it is so smooth and satisfying, hitting those burst windows just feels so good

Every time you use an ability that would have made you use Continuation, should instead give you a stack of Blasting Zone so you can use it whenever you can fit it in without feeling restrictive. Make it busy, not restrictive.

I feel like they could put the continuation animations on the attacks that utilize continuation, and just have level 70/86 be a damage buff and animation extension IF YOU DONT WEAVE to the combo and burst strike.

So I fit the full burst in no mercy but I've only really done it in pf or dungeons where raid buffs are popped at weird times if you do lightning shot 1-2-3-1-2 no mercy you get gnashing combo burst strike into solid barrel sonic break double down burst strike all the high potencies are in NM I've gotten it to fit in trick attack windows tho no idea when they used it in their rotation or if their timing was off etc

the no mercy window i get also the double weaving but i have continuation on pinky keybinds so i have full movement while in it... i also play on esdf from csgo meaning i have a and z available as pinky keybinds

What if Double Down had the same cooldown but only costs 1 cartridge? Would that help at all?

I can see what they want to do with GNB but it certainly needs some work. You make all the points.

I do worry about breaking Gnashing Fang or losing Continuation and getting pigeonholed into finishing my combo versus doing literally anything else I need to do, but if I could deal with ShB MNK for 80 levels, I can tolerate this. Then again, MNK's jank got reduced in EW by getting a free proc of Formless Fist after every Perfect Balance/Masterful Blitz and GNB on the other hand still has to deal with getting pigeonholed with Continuation.

what they could do with continuation is turn it from gcd to ogcd to gcd to ogcd etc. into a single ability with 4-5 gcd attacks kinda like the pre continuation gnashing fang combo, but longer, i feel like that could get rid of some of all that damn double weaving and maybe all skills could be fit into the burst window idk the idea needs to be more refined but its a start it guess

what do you mean living dead is the best free teleport to your current saved city dont have to pay gil for it and the cooldown is shorter then teleports

I think tank design was 90% of designers time went to pld then they slapped some stuff for the others hoping it would work

Glad I decide to focus on WAR and PLD. Looking forward to DRK at 90 video.

I think if they made Continuation a ranged projectile, it would fix a lot of the problems GNB has.

from my dungeon experience as healer darknight is the worst to heal the other 3 tanks are great especially gnb and warrior

That is 100% how I felt about GNB.. I was hoping that it would be fixed, but I finally got time to get into it, and yeah... I have to agree. It is fun yes, in fact while doing some redesigns to the main character of a comic/game I am working on.. I decided to basically make him my GNB, Gunblade and all lol.

Truly believe its the other way around: they added a cardridge and then thought: "oh s*** thats too much actually, BUT we could add an action that eats TWO cardridges..." "okay we do it that way"

I agree with Xeems! if they made these 4 adjustments, GNB would be really good: 1. Put continuation on a stack system and allow you to use continuation at any point within 30s after using the gnashing fang combo or burst strike. It would hold up to 4 stacks. 2. Give NM a 25s duration. 3. Increase the range of continuation. To allow for easier boss movement. 4. Give Gnashing Fang a higher potency than Burst Strike. A GCD that you can only use every 30s should not do less damage than a GCD you have access to at all times. Edit: I had 4 adjustments in my mind before posting this comment, forgot one after typing 3 of them, oops lol. And I just remembered what the 4th is.

You're so right man, I can play the job well but holy hell does it feel like shit to play, even if the high apm can be fun.

I smashed like at the Big Mac will eventually kill us analogy. Wicked funny.

I feel like from just leveling that GnB is the ultimate off-tank, can survive the big hits but goes ham on dps...and then moving boss might be less of an issue.

Im not a GNB main so apologies if this is wrong. I always thought Burst strike was meant to be your filler when Continuation is on CD so you dont cap on charges. Not the end of your combo like you explained in the video. Thats how I always saw it anyway so It made sense to me that it didnt fit in the window. That way they gave it an extra attack just to make your filler stronger while your burst combo is on CD.

I felt that also with No Mercy not lasting long enough to fit all the harder hitting moves. Also, I like AND don't like that the Gnashing Fang combo is all on one button. So low level content with no Continuation just looks odd.

Mitigation vs dmg ah yeah i love tripple weave

Dark Knight thoughts when? @xenosys

Gunbreaker works best as off tank when you focus mainly on dps and occasional tanking

what about off tank?

Gonna be honest it felt so assuring to see you point out how bad continuation is for a tank job. When I tanked in ShB on gunbreaker continuation was such a pain in the ass when I needed to pop defensive cds during that.

Totally agree the no mercy window is to short

I think wether they started the design as a tank or not, the thing they wanted to achieve was for it to feel like Squall from FF8 / Dissidia with continuation. And that fantasy of pulling the trigger while slashing was succesful. However I agree with everything you said. I think GNB should've been a dps to fulfill that ff8 fantasy and fit in it's role at the same time. But it's whatever to me.

i felt this at lvl 80, and i really felt the jank when i had to move hydaelyn echos when my burst came up XD

As a gunbreaker simp... he's right. Nailed it.

Tbh they should just remove sonic break amd bow shock gnb doesn’t need a dot. I think a simple fix is removing some cds that you need to weave in between. Gnashing fang combo and burst strike to hypervelocity is already a forced cd, the best thing they can do is to relieve us from double weaving. Or what if they just remove no mercy? That way we dont have to worry about putting all our ogcds amd powerful skills in that window.

Continuation should be changed into a weaponskill with a potency increase to match this change.

It's hard for people to understand that things we like sometimes have aspects we don't like that are fixable, and we want them fixed because we like them. It's a job in a video game, at the end of the day it isn't the end of the world to ask things to change. I wouldn't be surprised if people who defend this stuff find it annoying on some level too, they just don't care.

Change when you go into your burst phase in the beginning of the fight to work around these movement time periods? I see these as subjective takes, are you always in a burst phase when a tank buster is happening?

GNB is fun except when I have to move and also hit 4 buttons in the span of 1.25 seconds

Hhhhmmm. Wouldn't it be better if tehy increased the duration of no mercy so much so, that you didnt have to double weave? That would get rid of most of the clunkiness for moving bosses and such right? I love gnb aesthetically, but doing savage as a tank for the first time in EW just doesn't feel right on gnb to me. As i am learning how to position bosses and move bosses, gnb restricts that so much that it would be a nightmare for me. I decided on paladin instead as it was my second favourite tank in ShB, and i love it in endwalker. It feels super tanky and has a deeply satisfying rotation, along with it aesthetically looking the tankiest due to having a shield.

Everything about GNB could stay the same atm, they just need to add another one or two ways to gain cartridges, cause as xeno said its hard to have all that you need to fit in the windows.

100%. As soon as Burst Strike got it’s continuation, this job felt so much clunkier to me. Popping mitigation in the middle of burst windows feels absolutely terrible.

As much as I love playing Gunbreaker, I have to admit...I do not feel like Continuation needs to be its own button at all. Why the hell is it its own button that needs to be pressed immediately after the Gnashing Fang combo?

As a tank I agree with u I think gunbreaker needs to be tweaked a bit I love gunbreaker a lot but it’s funky

For me gun breaker still has this issue. The biggest problem seems to be that the class was so tightly designed for what it launched with that adding or removing anything makes the job worse and I don't think they're ever going to be able to go back to how it was since they need to keep adding and thus keep subtracting abilities.

Good to know I'm not the only one feeling like the job feels clunky as fuck.

Sadly I agree, will probably play DRK or PLD as other tank spot WAR is taken for savage and stay with gnb for norm/ EX and some roulettes

I've watched a few of your videos about tanks and i can't disagree with anything you've said

Most other classes have more OGCD than RPR. Kind of insane how it has so few.

3:42 WOW!!! I thought it was just me in regards to GNB, and I thought I just sucked cause I couldn’t fit in my No Blood, Burst, Double, Gnashing, window! I’m not and I agree that continuation is seriously clunky and chunky.

I'm torn as I agree that the dps ogcds can easily get in the way of your defensives and that is a feelsbad. However, I really like the pace outside of said defensives. Obviously they won't change it to a dps job so yeah...torn.

Maybe emphasize the GUN in gunbreaker and give continuation a slight range. Might help with boss mobility.

I've been playing gnb since the expac dropped and everyone wants to play WAR (my first love) and I'm very curious about xeno saying your burst doesn't fit in continuation. I can fit gnashing fang combo, a burst strike wit hhyper velocity, double down, sonic break and the 2 ogcd CDs in every no mercy without issue at 2.41GCD. WAR used to need even lower for 5 fell cleaves so I really don't get what the fuck xeno is talking about here

Most of the Jobs in EW dont feel like theh were tested properly lol

gunbreaker sounds like the tank version of ninja

Don't worry they'll fix gunbreaker when they decide to fix living dead for dark knight, so in another 2 years.

Can't wait to see Xeno go hard on DKN.

WAR video waiting room

I'd honestly prefer if all the offensive shit were *also* largely its defensive shit. Have Burst Strike inflict damage suppression. Give Continuation 5 seconds' leniency from its generator or the previous step in the Continuation combo and have it give parry chance proportionate to up to X damage that would be mitigated. Hell, at that point we could have even more 'hit ze buttons' apm and all would still be mostly fine, even choiceful.

I think that while your criticism is valid to an extend, it is ONLY applicable if you are considering a setting where you want to get rank 1/max performance. The only thing I agree with you on is extending no mercy to 25 seconds, and lowering some other potency to compensate in order to make it possible to fit everything into your burst window. And even then, it's just a brain thing man. You will do same damage as before, it will just be part of your last burst strike + hypervelocity, than your X skill that will get nerfed, so in the end, even that is kinda pointless. As for the rest of your argument, mostly on continuation, believe it or not, even on world first, delaying your blasting zone/bow shock by one gcd to press a heart of corundum is NOT a high enough dps loss to truly matter. And even then, the tankbusters are so spaced out that this will be incredibly rare. You are overreacting. You can still output a respectable 95+ log even if you delay an ogcd once or twice in a fight. Moving the boss around is also not a huge deal, there is rarely that much movement to be done that is urgent enough to let your gcd drift, even on ultimates. What you are arguing about is the class being badly designed just because it cannot do its optimal rotation in an extremely niche, rare situation. Ppl who disagree with you aren't stupid. In fact, I think that it's more stupid to argue changing a class' core concept based on a dude who likes to push out uptime strats to achieve rank 1 lol.

not sure why all the continuation spells arent ranged, it is a GUNbreaker afterall. it would allow us to at least move bosses like the other 3 tank jobs

Gunbreaker is an all-day side-tank.

But lvl 90 war thoughts when . We need the unga to bunga.

The Balance seems to disagree with much of what was said here about the No Mercy window

What's if the savage claw continuation combo was all on the gcd but give savage claw an ability where it makes that whole combo 1.5 seçonds gcd

PepeLaugh waiting on that Dark Knight Rant...

Luckily my time playing monster hunter for thousands and thousands of hours on handhelds made my claw grip pretty damn good. Legit the only reason i can move during continuation phases. Also yeah, not very happy with how continuation can eat off globals(which gnb has a lot of). ALSO also, yeah double down should be off global or something else, its hard to fit everything in. And the last also also, i really fucking hate sonic break. It being global with how much you have to juice for cartridges and how limited your no mercy window is feels incredibly wasteful. Bowshock doesnt feel anywhere near that bad, it just sucks that it gets clipped so hard by continuation. All that said, very happy with gunbreaker regardless because haha funny boom boom.

my exact thoughts on gnb love the class probably one of my fave tanks but continuation feels like horse shit when trying to ya know TANK

I played GNB all of ShB and is the first tank I got to 90.. saw the final rotation and went to level up Warrior. Sorry not sorry 😟 I prefer to do a little less damage and be more comfortable moving around than being a machine-gun who can't pop defensives during the burst window

In shadowbringers I tried tanking with gunbreaker in Eden savage. I thought it was only a little annoying to MT, until I did E7s... the add phase kiting was pure CANCER! I swear I was fighting the urge to jump off the platform everytime. So yeah I agree with xenos. It feels like sht when you have to choose between tanking properly or optimizing your damage, something the other tanks dont have to do.

I wish I could play as GNB from LVL 1

You cant do all your burst inside No mercy? I disagree

I honestly don't see why they can't make No Mercy work the same way as WAR's Surging Tempest. Just gotta refresh it here and there.

my healers love me playing War more than anything... they don't even have to heal tank busters in out Savage raids xD so defensively War is the best, but does the extra dps increase that healers having to heal tank less equal the difference between War and Drk, Gnb? I think especially if its Sch they don't even have to touch me ever, so War is just overall better in every regard to me xD.

At level 80 you get used to continuation for 3 gcds a minute and the job becomes very comfy and fun to play. During savage and extremes I could usually play around mechanics and boss movement even as a maintank and I even got my Ultima clear with it. Adding more continuation didn't really bother me, you can call that stockholm syndrome, but what fucking bothers me is this atrocity called Double Down. Basically you go from needing just one ammo for each No Mercy to 3 out of 3 which makes some trivial things like having to burst strike right before No Mercy (this is a common occurence!) into an actual rotational issue and it's infuriating. Because your ammo generation rate is basically the same, losing any sort of uptime can delay your DD or cuck you out of it entirely and it's infuriating. It's getting to me so bad that I'm considering switching to a bloody Warrior. It's depressing.

1:20 personally I prefer a Big Kahuna Burger ^^

Continuation has never felt clunky…. But double down use is clunky as hell! Without double down, the rotation has burst every 30s.

Is it me or does reaper feel a lot like gunbreaker with its mutating actions? I mailed GNB in shadowbringers, tried out RPR and thought it felt like GNB without the responsibility.

same rant xenoSleep

Feels clunky but I still enjoy it. More no mercy would be amazing

tbh just skip cont in the combo for HoC if you have to, it feels trash to do and your parse won't like it, but sometimes the responsibility to not die outweighs the clicky clicky boom boom.

Hey Xeno, you should make a video on the cancer that is the monk positional thread on the official forums. They are mad because people are enjoying the class now that it has only 2 positionals. They are claiming that only monk "mains" can say how the class should play. The whole thread is just them sperging out each time someone mentions that they like it with only 2 positionals. I thought you might have fun reading it, keep it up strummer!

Multitask and link up your CDs with boss mechanics. It's fine imo, but that's my opinion and people normally flame other when they have their own opinion. Especially streamers.