How GOOD was Aurorus ACTUALLY? - History of Aurorus in Competitive Pokemon

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Aurorus is today’s Pokemon for our competitive history series! Join False Swipe Gaming in this overview of Aurorus in competitive Pokemon!
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@omarpride3021 2 жыл бұрын

I find it absolutely criminal how they didn’t give Aurorus, a dinosaur with gems all over its body and a literal Aurora Borealis on its back, not getting Power Gem and Aurora Veil. I still love this Pokémon, but I was so shocked and devastated looking up its moves.

@recitationtohear 2 жыл бұрын

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@roadhouse7171 2 жыл бұрын

It's strange it doesn't learn Dazzling Gleam either. It make sense thematically and ingame considering gen 6 is the gen that introduced fairy types and it would give Aurorus a bit more coverage.

@captainsunshine64 2 жыл бұрын

They gave a bee Power Gem, not Aurorus

@omarpride3021 2 жыл бұрын

@@roadhouse7171 ikr, apparently fairy types are also the light type, and Aurorus gets so many electric type moves in its movepool it’s insane! Should’ve gotten moonblast as well since it only evolves at night.

@cintronproductions9430 2 жыл бұрын

At least they gave it Meteor Beam... which is insensitive because the dinosaurs were killed by a meteor, LOL.

@Zenithal1843 2 жыл бұрын

Refrigerate is such a cool concept for an ability. I hope they make more -ate Abilities for the other Types since nearly every Pokémon learns a Normal Type move

@Kanbei11 2 жыл бұрын

At the same time I think you should be allowed to choose if the -ate abilities activate to add a bit of depth

@supremeegglord422 2 жыл бұрын

@oh no lol what

@nerddwarf 2 жыл бұрын

Currently: Pixilate (Normal moves become Fairy and gain power) Aerilate (Normal moves become Flying and gain power) Refrigerate (Normal moves become Ice and gain power) Galvanize (Normal moves become Electric and gain power) Normalize (ALL moves become Normal *and gain power) (*Only gains power in Gen 7 onwards) (Gen 6 is a 30% boost. Gen 7 onwards is a 20% boost) Sort of Liquid Voice (ALL sound-based moves become Water)

@rabeechowdhury 2 жыл бұрын

@oh no why are you linking the Qur'an on a pokémon video?

@Zenithal1843 2 жыл бұрын

@oh no Iol

@pixelapocrypha 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus and Tyrantrum were such good fossil pokemon. I love both of them even if Aurorus struggles a lot with weaknesses.

@J.R.Unbound 2 жыл бұрын

Probably my favourite fossil duo.

@shikarixox1195 2 жыл бұрын

Hands down the best designed fossils of the franchise.

@manonabrard9445 2 жыл бұрын

@@shikarixox1195 th first trio of fossil will always be the best

@izumikonomi3320 2 жыл бұрын

gamefreak actually nailed all fossil from gen 1-6 like there wasnt a single badly designed fossil gen 8 however have horrendous designs that being said even tho its ugly af the gen 8 fossil have a interesting concept and im starting to love dracovish and arctovish even tho they are a weird frankenstein monster

@natefalso839 2 жыл бұрын

I agree and can’t believe it took so long to get the iconic T-Rex

@bigdaddytuesday7238 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus may have a terrible defensive typing and a weird speed tier but I absolutely love him and am glad he has niches in lower tiers.

@ethantreadway9478 2 жыл бұрын

U know what me too.

@Entelarmer 2 жыл бұрын

Its speed isn't rly weird, it's a big sauropod. You don't exactly expect sth like that to be fast.

@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын

@@Entelarmer Explain Meganium, then.

@Entelarmer 2 жыл бұрын

@@skeetermania3202 Venusaur. There, explained.

@TheMissingLink2 2 жыл бұрын

People sleep on this Mon solely because of its typing. It is literally a workhorse. EVs: HP (252) SPA(120+) DEF(remaining) Ability: Refrigerate Item: Assault Vest Nature: Quiet Hyper Voice Ancient Power Freeze-Dry Mirror Coat This mon will do work, especially on a trickroom team. Hyper Voice- hits hard af. 20% conversation boost plus stab. Ancient Power- Great STAB coverage plus 10% chance to increase stats. Freeze-Dry- Destroys water-types. KILLS water/flying water/grass (Ludi). Mirror Coat- This surprise no one ever sees coming. Dare them to hit you with special move. KO. Say goodnight to opponents. People sleep on this mon when they see it in the line up.

@cheruledge 2 жыл бұрын

ALSO: Just this past week, NU decided to ban Slush Rush, effectively banning Alolan Sandslash (since OU also banned Snow Cloak) and neutering Beartic to unviablility. Many discussions in the Slush Rush / Hail Policy Review thread have stated that only Alolan Sandlash should be banned, with them thinking that that is what made Beartic broken, much like the Salamence and Latias situation form gen 4 OU. Stay tuned for this next saga of NU vs Hail!

@TunaBear64 2 жыл бұрын

Is heartwarming to see the line Beartic broken Also from PU to banned in NU what a improvement for the icy pangolin

@SakhotGamer 2 жыл бұрын

Not the first an ice type has been completely banned because both of their abilities were unavailable.

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

Sincerely hail could still be viable on NU if it gave ice a defense boost like sandstorm

@sephikong8323 2 жыл бұрын

Gen 8 is actually pretty bonkers in terms of it's own internal history, it's on it's way to surpass gen 5 (if it hasn't already done so) and I find that hilarious

@pannekook2000 2 жыл бұрын

@@sephikong8323 low tier hail has showed it is as controversial as OU rain in gen 5 and I think that’s really spectacular

@honeyham6788 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly, i feel a big mistep is that Hail doesnt boost the Def of Ice types. Sandstorm books the Sp Def of Rocks, it makes perfect sense that Hail should do the inverse

@notvex3987 2 жыл бұрын

I mean most "good enough" ice tyoes just die to any fighting move,are just way too frail to make use of it,or will just get easily revenged by bullet punch of something

@honeyham6788 2 жыл бұрын

@@notvex3987 i mean, a 50% boost to Def is pretty sizeable boost. Under Sand, an Aurorus with EV Sp Def goes from being OHKOed to to 2HKO by a Aura Sphere. The same logic should apply to Def with Hail

@notvex3987 2 жыл бұрын

@@honeyham6788 yeah but bold max ev +def from hail from aurorus dies to basically every single stab close combat ever,let alone other frailer mons

@notvex3987 2 жыл бұрын

@@honeyham6788 and most pokemon would just use aurorus as set up fodder,so it would usually take +1 or 2 attacks

@honeyham6788 2 жыл бұрын

@@notvex3987 ok, but lets take an ice type that IS designed to be a physical wall, like Avalugg. A 50% boost to its Def, moves it from a 2HKO, to a 3HKO when facing a close combat hit. Thats a big deal for a wall

@SovanJedi 2 жыл бұрын

I love that they made a sauropod Pokemon based off of Amargasaurus, one of the few with a sail down its back, and merged the concept of aurora borealis into it. Gen 6 truly had some of the best designed dinosaur Pokemon in it, as well as a really solid set of Pokemon designs in general!

@mognum5136 2 жыл бұрын

@Just Dope ???

@captainsunshine64 2 жыл бұрын

Loved X and Y, it had a light pokedex but all the new Mon were superb

@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын

I think Gen. 6 has the best Pokemon in terms of the design. As for battle wise though, some are good. Some are bad.

@shranos1134 2 жыл бұрын

If I remember right amarga didn't had a sail

@KeithTheDinosaurBoyVA 2 жыл бұрын

Amargasaurus is an even better fit as the dinosaur Aurorus is based on because Amargasaurus can be found in Argentina, one of the countries where you can view the Aurora Australis

@laxusstrauss5945 2 жыл бұрын

It might be not the best fossil but is certainly the most majestic one

@Gr4ceful4life 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, I’m pretty sure the rest are pretty ugly or fit in the cool category. Also report the bot

@sinnohperson8813 2 жыл бұрын

For some people it may be the best too

@laxusstrauss5945 2 жыл бұрын

@oh no thanks 💓 appreciate it

@jayanths1221 2 жыл бұрын

With that horrendous defensive typing, no wonder Aurorus went extinct so early.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

And needed the Crown Tundra to help not become extinct again.

@spiritbaki108 9 ай бұрын

I mean technically when it wasnt extinct it was pure ice?

@haidynwendlandt2479 2 жыл бұрын

At least Aurorus (along with Amaura) has the unfortunate honor of being the only Pokemon able to instantly get KOd by arena hazards. Stealth Rock deals 25%, Copperajah G-Max's Spikes deal 50%, and then max Spikes layers deals 25% as well.

@TunaBear64 2 жыл бұрын

@Kit Duguay And Alolan Ninetales

@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 2 жыл бұрын

Its a good thing Stealth Iron can only be used by Gmax Coppe

@TunaBear64 2 жыл бұрын

@@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 Imagine Sandslash-A getting a Gigantamax and being able to setup Ice hazards

@reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561 2 жыл бұрын

@@TunaBear64 R.I.P Dragon, Ground, Flying and Grass types

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

And Charizard and Talonflame as well

@roadhouse7171 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see Aurorus finally getting some love. It's my favorite fossil pokemon and one of my favorite gen 6 pokemon. Seems like a missed opportunity that it doesn't learn Power Gem or Dazzling Gleam though

@bluewuppo 2 жыл бұрын

same, it’s my #1 favorite pkmn. praying it gets a buff soon

@nimroddafny7125 2 жыл бұрын

I like how this video became outdated before release. For those unaware, Sandslash-Alola (and depending on who you ask Beartic) ended up being too good for NU so the tier banned Slush Rush.

@TunaBear64 21 күн бұрын

If they banned Slush Rush, then they considered both to be too good.

@nimroddafny7125 21 күн бұрын

@@TunaBear64 not necessarily. Arctovish was already too much and in the eyes of some two Slush Rushers banned might've been enough to nuke the ability.

@TunaBear64 20 күн бұрын

@@nimroddafny7125 If they only considered Alolan Sandslash to be broken, they would have banned him directly and see if Beartic is manageable while alone

@nimroddafny7125 20 күн бұрын

@@TunaBear64 they never go over every single mon with a specific ability before banning the ability. Generally 2-3 are enough to prove the ability is a problem. Arctovish and Sandslash might've been enough.

@EdmacZ 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus: *Enters battle* Aurorus: "Something's wrong. I can feel it."

@monster25man 2 жыл бұрын

I know it's been fixed in SwSh but my god you have no idea how AGONIZINGLY FRUSTRATING it is to know that the AURORA pokemon didn't learn Aurora Veil! one of the few times I've called Game Freak out on being just plain dumb (I never do that, but this was one of those times...)

@justinthibodeaux8601 2 жыл бұрын

Just remember that lickitung used to not be able to learn lick

@williamhuynh869 2 жыл бұрын

@@justinthibodeaux8601 gen 1 growlithe couldnt growl

@NanaKyoto 2 жыл бұрын

Even though Ice type Pokémon vary greatly in terms of offensive and defensive capabilities, they have some of the coolest designs.

@thelookigetfromgirls6492 2 жыл бұрын

I always find it unfortunate when pokemon like Aurorus exist, defensive pokemon that would be good or even excellent...if their type complimented their stats.

@FrostReave 2 жыл бұрын

Yeah. They need to fix ice especially for that. They need to either give it resistances or remove many of its offensive weaknesses like making it not very effective only against fire

@majesticgothitelle1802 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrostReave I would say give ice type resistance to water, ground and flying. That would Bost it statics.

@FrostReave 2 жыл бұрын

@@majesticgothitelle1802 I think the biggest change that is needed is it losing its steel weakness or giving it effectiveness against fairy, or giving it resistance to everything it is strong against except grass and bug. Another good idea is steel losing its dragon resistance and giving it to ice instead.

@majesticgothitelle1802 2 жыл бұрын

@@FrostReave I feel grass already have to much weaknesses and very little things that it strong against. Flying and water have few things that resist it while ground type moves are strong. So making ice type a counter to them would be my choice. I would have bug type resist fairy

@FrostReave 2 жыл бұрын

@@majesticgothitelle1802 you weren’t listening. I said that ice would gain resistance to Dragon, Ground, and Flying. Not that ice would resist bug and grass only. Pokémon world champion Wolfey already went over how he would fix the types. He suggested making fairy weak to bug and give ice resistance to fairy as well as give ice resistance to ground. Then remove Steels resistance to dragon and give it to ice. Make water ineffective against electric, remover darks immunity to psychic and I forget the rest

@_KungFuBarbie_ 2 жыл бұрын

I love Aurorus and it’s cry so much. It’s defensive typing is… unfortunate though. 😅

@recitationtohear 2 жыл бұрын

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@雪者 2 жыл бұрын

Poor Aurorus, it's a cool concept but the typing is just.... oof.

@skullerclawerbandicoot7966 2 жыл бұрын

Yep, couldnt agree more

@sephikong8323 2 жыл бұрын

When you take arguably the two worst defensive typings in the game (with little synergy with one another) and put them together, expect miracles

@bryanc1772 2 жыл бұрын

Needs a base 120 Speed like Weavile lol

@CNightmare072 2 жыл бұрын

The way I’d buff Aurorus would actually be to make it slower. Drop it’s speed from 58->18 & put those 20 points into SpAtk & SpDef. This would let it underspeed Torkoal, making it the slowest weather setter in the game. For VGC, this would be huge & make Hail the “anti-weather”; Hail still has the least synergy of all weathers, so using it to turn off Sun/Rain/Sand would be it’s new role. Similarly to Torkoal, it could sweep under TR w/ Blizzard as well. For context, this is all from the lens of Doubles/VGC. Would be nice to see this excellent design see more play!

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

And furthermore, Hail benefits no one, not even Ice types because to run an Ice type is already insanely risky unless it’s the top ten (Calyrex-Ice Rider, Mamoswine, Weavile, Froslass, Alolan Ninetales, Galarian Darmanitan, Jynx in earlier generations, Kyurem only in Gen 8, sometimes Kyurem-White, Vanilluxe since it got Snow Warning) and there are fewer Ice types than any other type. Hail would absolutely function best as a punishing weather.

@theskullboy8700 2 жыл бұрын

Random player: it worked my gimmick team wo- **gets crushed** Arourous: I am a stegosaurus

@Wildcatt1999 2 жыл бұрын

It's really sad that one of the best design fossil Pokemon has such a bad dual typing.

@vengefulbale 2 жыл бұрын

It's not even that bad of a dual typing if it was an offensive speedster, but it is a godawful defensive typing.

@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын

I thought Bastiodon was the worst Fossil Pokemon.

@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын

@@jaretco6423 It is due to horrible offensive stats and problematic dual typing. Aurorus outclasses it with offenses and speed.

@sreenaths6829 2 жыл бұрын

@@IgnitedQuils if only Bastiodon were a pure Rock type with a good defensive ability like Solid Rock or Sand Stream it would've been a lot better.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

Neat to know Bastiodon would need to be worse Mega Aggron but a Rock type to be better.

@TunaBear64 2 жыл бұрын

Today on the next episode of the "Gen 8 Hail chaos" we will review one of the hail setters whose ability to set up rocks, created a common niche

@HecateArtworks 2 жыл бұрын

Arctozolt will be a funny video as its gen 8 tier jumping is something ive never seen before

@DJ-Rose 2 жыл бұрын

I love how ice types, usually the worst types to have on your team, were so good that they had a very complex series of bans in generation 8. Oh and I love how Beartic, who we got not too long ago, is here as well.

@fgsdafeqweqwew576 2 жыл бұрын

true, gen 8 is the only gen to have all 3 kyurem banned to ubers afaik, so crazy

@TunaBear64 2 жыл бұрын

Two in one, that short time in NU was the entire Beartic career outside Untiered I said was because Slush Rush got banned on NU

@JCBro-yg8vd 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus is a Pokemon that would benefit greatly from the Ice type getting a defensive buff. It should at least resist Water and Grass types.

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

Grass is on a rough spot so is better to not add a resistance, Ice resisting Water and flying would be perfect

@NisarKhan-jm1uh Жыл бұрын

@@infinitecriativity1588 I would make ice resist ground, water, flying, dragon and fairy.

@shagarumedic 9 ай бұрын

@@NisarKhan-jm1uhidk about fairy mate

@bumberquest3031 2 жыл бұрын

Ice is such a great offensive typing and such a poor defensive typing that I feel like it pigeonholes pokemon that are ice type to only excel when they are overwhelmingly quick or overwhelmingly strong, (Weavile, Mamoswine). I feel like other types can have more varied pokemon archetypes that work well unlike ice. Avalugg is a more straightforward defensive pokemon than Amoongus is, yet here we are.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

“Technically Calyrex-Ice Rider exists”

@lukebytes5366 2 жыл бұрын

This feels like the result of gamefreak being way too conservative with their typings and pokemon in general and not really accounting for them when adding new things. The one thing ice was consistently good at was as a counter to Dragon yet fairy is better at that in nearly every way.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

And the funny thing is when Alolan Ninetales, an Ice/Fairy type, came around, it still wasn’t a dragon slayer. It got lucky it could do many other things. Now ice basically sets up for other types, whether as a nice coverage move or literally with Aurora Veil.

@iantaakalla8180 Жыл бұрын

This still hasn’t changed but at least Snow helps Ice teams and does not rely on Overcoat mons.

@justinnzamora5366 2 жыл бұрын

Oh look. Another Ice type Pokemon with a beautiful design that is crippled with a horrendous type combination and stat distribution. Oh well. Aurorus still has a place in my heart for being an Instrumental member of team during my first playthrough of Pokemon Y.

@graphitetailgrace3870 2 жыл бұрын

Is there even a decent type combo for Ice? Anything you could give it would be badly hampered by Ice's myriad of flaws. Ice/Flying? Dead if a Rock type comes. Ice/Rock, Ice/Normal, Ice/Dark, or Ice/Steel? Dead if a Fighting type comes. Ice/Bug or Ice/Grass? Dead if a Fire type comes. Ice/Fire? Dead if a Rock type comes. Ice/Ground or Ice/Water? Ice doesn't resist Grass or Electric, so it wouldn't do much good against a Venusaur or a Jolteon. Ice/Electric? Ice doesn't even resist Ground. The only two I can think of are Ice/Dragon and Ice/Fairy, but that's only because Dragon and Fairy are so good defensively to begin with. Ice just doesn't do anything on its own.

@dragoknighte48 2 жыл бұрын

@@graphitetailgrace3870 The best type combo for ice types is to not be ice type

@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын

@@graphitetailgrace3870 I was thinking Ice/Steel but the four times weakness to Fighting and Fire. Ice/Ground (not counting Thick Fat Mamoswine) isn’t ideal defensively due to 1 resistance, 1 immunity and 5 weaknesses.

@Gato-be2jr 2 жыл бұрын

@@graphitetailgrace3870 ice dark but only weavile ._.

@Detective_L 2 жыл бұрын

Ice/Electric would be the best combination since it only has 4 weaknesses and no quad weaknesses. The rest has 5+ weaknesses or it has a quad weakness

@QuestForTori 2 жыл бұрын

Amaura is like my favorite Pokémon and I desperately want Ice to get a defensive buff just for its sake

@finaldusk1821 2 жыл бұрын

Did not expect this as the second gen 6 competitor to be covered on the channel, but I am NOT displeased!

@yukeenakamura1398 2 жыл бұрын

Many of the coolest Pokémon haven’t gotten enough justice. Would love to see this one get an evolution or buff.

@coldore6734 2 жыл бұрын

We have to get the other gen 6 fossil pokemon now,Tyrantrum!

@Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 жыл бұрын

So much better

@chaddangersexhaver98 2 жыл бұрын

No. We need to do the gen 6 starters first. We did Greninja over a year ago!

@coldore6734 2 жыл бұрын

@Just Dope no

@coldore6734 2 жыл бұрын

@@chaddangersexhaver98 fair

@Pacmanfan-po9rn 2 жыл бұрын

@@chaddangersexhaver98 We need Chesnaught, Delphox can wait

@adudeontheinternet2221 2 жыл бұрын

Could you try doing malamar it would be interesting to know how Topsy-turvy effected the competitive scene

@recitationtohear 2 жыл бұрын

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@noivernblast3366 2 жыл бұрын

It… didn’t.

@AZV0108 2 жыл бұрын

Malamar is more known by the Contrary + Superpower combo and being OHKO'd by one single U-Turn than its actual signature move

@MasterJayanX 2 жыл бұрын

Sadly, Topsy-Turvy is almost never seen in the competitive scene, but on the bright side, it is one of the most prevalent moves in Balanced Hackmons since having the chance of lowering the opponent's stats instead of just removing its stat changes can be huge at disrupting setup sweepers

@butteredsalmonella 2 жыл бұрын

I've seen more people cite Topsy-Turvy as a counter to Evasion, Moody, etc. than see Topsy-Turvy actually be used reliably. It's sad.

@AndyStarzs1 2 жыл бұрын

I love Aurorus. I was legit searching up aurorus videos.

@vaporterra 2 жыл бұрын

Hopefully you’ll stick around and check some of the other videos on this channel too! It’s very informative.

@sharkronical 2 жыл бұрын

Glad to see you guys are starting to cover gen 6 and 7 Pokemons (other than Greninja)

@jaretco6423 2 жыл бұрын

And Decidueye.

@goGothitaLOL 2 жыл бұрын

@@jaretco6423 he's the first one from Gen 7

@sharkronical 2 жыл бұрын

@@jaretco6423 it's very recently, I said other than Greninja because Greninja has been covered for a long time

@goGothitaLOL 2 жыл бұрын

*Sees a video about Aurorus* Me: Oh jeepers, here we go also, can't wait for Tyrantrum later

@AP-gb3pq 2 жыл бұрын

WOOO! Aurorus was always my favorite for some reason. Always tried to make refrigerate -> choice specs -> hyper beam work in doubles or singles. Usually it didn't go well, but I had a blast nevertheless! Such a cool Pokemon.

@swampy725 2 жыл бұрын

ZUBL in gen 8 is really impressive

@neeko.b 2 жыл бұрын

As someone that doesn’t follow the competitive scene and just watches these for fun, it’s cool to finally see Vivillon (one of my favourites) being viable in some form.

@jaschabull2365 2 жыл бұрын

I thought vivillon was one of the least pitiful regional bugs. Though maybe the later-gen beetles might have had some use?

@NisarKhan-jm1uh 2 жыл бұрын

Vivillon is my favourite bug type pokemon

@Pottinio 2 жыл бұрын

Is there a chance for a "How GREAT was Tyranitar ACTUALLY?" I feel like the 13min video from 4 years ago does not do the OU behemoth justice. Love the longer style of the videos btw!

@TheLonelyNihilego 2 жыл бұрын

Agreed I’m praying that remake

@iBenjamin1000 2 жыл бұрын

lotta those early critters that could use remakes. the other gen 1 starters, gengar, alakazam, maybe even the eevees,

@ryans8081 2 жыл бұрын

@@iBenjamin1000 I'm still surprised he hasn't done starmie again yet. Was solidly OU in all of the first 6 gens, like Gengar, Dragonite, and (almost) Alakazam, Jolteon, and Zapdos, and only fell below OU when greninja was unbanned in gen 7.

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus and Armaldo are perfect example of pokemon with bad typing that could at least be mitigated if rock resisted itself making them stealth rock neutral. I also think that if hail gave ice a defense boost like sandstream Aurorus would be better, both changes are obvious to me but game freak are busy making gimmicks instead of fixing already existing types and movesets.

@mectainea5575 2 жыл бұрын

if anything rock should of been immune to stealth rocks to begin with and absorb it outright as a form of removal like toxic spikes with poison types. Literally every other hazard in existence has at least a fair share of Pokémon that are passively immune due to typing or abilities. its kind of stupid that stealth rocks can basically hit everything universally with no drawbacks as it lasts basically forever unless the opponent happens to have one of the three hyper specific moves of removing it.

@grassfish01 2 жыл бұрын

Hail shouldn’t receive any more buffs. We already got the tools that made it viable back in Gen 7 (Aurora Veil to enable setup sweepers like SD Sandslash-A, and Slush Rush to fix the speed issue of a select few Ices) and new abusers in Gen 8 (the Arcto fossils). Considering that even something as otherwise slow as Arctozolt is viable in OU with Aurora Veil from Ninetails-A (not to mention Arctovish, Sandslash-A, and Beartic seeing viability in the lower tiers despite their low usage rates) any other buff to Hail might make it OP.

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

@@mectainea5575 The probable reason why stealth rock exists was because game freak wanted to balance the rock type making it more viable but thanks to the fact they made everymon have it, instead stealth rock dominates the metagame without helping the rock types in any way. But I don't think that a immunity to stealth rock makes sense Thematically.

@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын

@@grassfish01 How good is Hail in VGC?

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

My comment got stolen

@nespeon5279 2 жыл бұрын

It may have a terrible defensive typing, but I love Aurorus so much. Definitely in my Top 15.

@luiseduardo8806 2 жыл бұрын

In mine too, such an elegant pokémon

@Rodolphin 2 жыл бұрын

After hearing Rotom Frost being good in NU, now it makes me want a “How good was Rotom actually” video. I know it will be a long one since it’s 6 different forms along with VGC usage. But I’ll patiently wait for it

@Genelere 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus has a special place in my heart as I used it in my first playthrough of the Gen 6 games. Loved its design and even though it was really frail, I loved using it. I wasn't very good so I didn't utilize refrigerate the way it should have been (I used ice beam instead of hyper voice lol), but I remember it introduced me to the move freeze-dry which was new in gen 6 and it was incredibly convenient lol.

@1BlueYoshi 2 жыл бұрын

I remember building an Aurorus for a Inverse-battle tourney in XY. One of the best typings in an inverse battle for sure lol.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

Avalugg is a supreme inverse battler because it’s only weak to Ice and it obviously performs as the physical wall.

@AmoniPaleo 2 жыл бұрын

*AH? AURORA BOREALIS??* At this time of year? At this time of day? In this country? Localised entirely within your False Swipe Gaming video?

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

Yes.

@AmoniPaleo 2 жыл бұрын

@@iantaakalla8180 May I see it?

@xJC4Rx 2 жыл бұрын

I used Aurorus on my sandstorm team which ran Trick Room And it did pretty well somehow.

@Sunaki1000 2 жыл бұрын

If it had better Attackstats, it would ve a pretty powerfull Trickroom Sweeper, extremely threathened, but wonderfull Stab and Coverage.

@lukebytes5366 2 жыл бұрын

I feel like aurora has just good enough speed that not even trickroom would work that well. It'll fail to outspeed a lot of tanks and walls, a lot of which are steel. Trickroom would just change its weakness from fast offensive pokemon to slow defensive ones.

@Sunaki1000 2 жыл бұрын

@@lukebytes5366 Probably true. Its a shame.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

Around 58 speed is the worst speed tier: too fast to even be in Trick Room, too slow to outspeed anything reasonable.

@Awoken_YKW_Fan9001 2 жыл бұрын

"Aurora Borealis!? At this time of day, in this part of the country, localized ENTIRELY within *Your Kitchen?!!"* "Yes!"

@roidadadou5456 2 жыл бұрын

Watching a vid on my favourite channel, after an hard working day putting every leaks of PLA together. Love you so much.

@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus has a good offensive typing (Ice/Rock is resisted by Steel and some dual Fighting types) and perfect coverage in Earth Power. If only Aurorus was faster. Its defensive typing is bad of course, but there are Pokemon like Weavile who are good in metagame despite this, like what FSG said.

@lioninjawarloc 2 жыл бұрын

Weavile is good inspite of it's typing because it's fast

@TheMirksta 2 жыл бұрын

I mean, Weavile has enough special bulk to switch in on some moves like a shadow ball plus it has an immunity to psychic, and it's faster than most unboosted Pokemon. Aurorus has to get in, and then be outsped and hit again too.

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

If Aurorus was faster it would be good but another way to make Aurorus better would to make hail act like sandstorm and give ice a defense boost since it learns snow warning

@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын

@@lioninjawarloc That’s what I mean. Despite its typing, it’s good as it has high attack, good STAB combo, priority and speed.

@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheMirksta I kinda agree that people tend to exaggerate how frail Weavile is. It’s not that bad on the special side.

@beeorsomething2230 2 жыл бұрын

Can you do tyrantrum next? I think it would be neat to do both the fossils next to each other

@Silverje110 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for doing an Aurorus video! It's my all time favorite Mon!

@frogsnidget_7345 2 жыл бұрын

I’m really loving the more in-depth analysis of newer Pokémon, I loved hearing about the war between Abamosnow and the friendship with Aslash as well, super interesting and gives you a wide scope on how snow warming competition works in modern Pokémon

@josephmay852 2 жыл бұрын

I'm really happy to see this video. I watch a lot of pokemon showdown clips. But I haven't really followed the game, or the show for quite sometime. So this is a pokemon I see a lot of but don't know a lot about

@cannoneergaming7011 2 жыл бұрын

I wish it had an ability that would negate some of it’s defensive weaknesses, like how Mamoswine has thick fat to protect it from fire attacks.

@IgnitedQuils 2 жыл бұрын

Solid Rock maybe? It makes sense considering some Rock types have it as an ability.

@skeetermania3202 2 жыл бұрын

@@IgnitedQuils Particularly those with at least one 4x weakness.

@DrPumpkinz 2 жыл бұрын

I once designed a Mega Aurorus with Dry Skin, in reference to the common (and I think incorrect) image of sauropods wading through deep swamps. Pairs well with Freeze-Dry to dunk of Water-types.

@roadhouse7171 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe something that would reduce the damage taken by super effective attacks in Hail? This would have great synergy with snow warning and snow teams in general

@WillDennis22 2 жыл бұрын

But Snow Warning is one of the things I love about Aurorus :(

@primrosevale1995 2 жыл бұрын

Tyrantrum appearing at the end of the Gen 8 section better be foreshadowing for next week's video.

@Illumisepoolist 2 жыл бұрын

For a Pokemon with so Many weaknesses, Aurorus did pretty good!

@iantaakalla8180 Жыл бұрын

Because it was good enough to be a suicide lead. At least it was relevant where Froslass lost its relevance.

@thejuic3b0i64 2 жыл бұрын

Competitive: “Hellooooooo” Ice/Rock: *”ITS THE DEVIL”*

@mkandseptisyt4021 2 жыл бұрын

Loving this Kalos rep. It's cool to see Aurorus again.

@sagacious03 2 жыл бұрын

Great analysis video! Thanks for uploading!

@inashibe8588 Жыл бұрын

As someone who didn't understand how amaura evolced and took it to elite four as its pre-evo on my first runthru of X, i love this pokemon line sm

@ladyarcanine1432 2 жыл бұрын

I love Aurorus so much. It breaks my heart that it wasn't as good as it's counterpart. But even still it will always hold a spot on my top 6 favorites team. Aurorus forever!

@whiteninji352 2 жыл бұрын

aurorus and Tyrantrum are my favorite fossils I love them so much. Hopefully Tyrantrum gets an episode soon

@cesarflamenco9484 2 жыл бұрын

The Kalos Fossils are some of my favorite Pokemon. I'm just glad Aurorus actually has useful niches in competitive and it's bad defensive typing and awkward stat distribution didn't just leave it as another forgotten untierd favorite. I hope we hear a History of Tyrantrumm soon here.

@ScroodleDoodle1 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not giving up on my first shiny legendary, c'mon fsg team, do kyurem!

@kellenrist3973 2 жыл бұрын

I love Aurorus, but I've been dreading this one due to how awful its typing is. Was pleasantly surprised to see just how well it did.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

It only works simply because it has strangely good stats.

@naturalharmoniagropius4486 2 жыл бұрын

I love how in Gen 8, the competitive viability always vary to the main game and the DLC. Make sense that the more Pokemon added, the more impactful the competitive scene was.

@kay_sou 2 жыл бұрын

This is one of those videos where I really wish he'd cover ZU, because Aurorus was recently banned from the tier.

@D-S-G. 2 жыл бұрын

Has to be one of the best fossil designs, but cursed with one of the worst typings. Being literally able to die to entry hazards is not unique in a good way.

@Rarest26 2 жыл бұрын

Didn’t Smogon JUST ban Slush Rush in NU?

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

Not when this video was being produced.

@justyaya374 2 жыл бұрын

Now we just need the other coolest fossil pokemon, the T-Rex with Santa's beard head butting everything in its way

@SYKim_94 2 жыл бұрын

It seems that gamefreak went out of their way to buff ice types more offensively in Gen 8, but couldn’t give them more resistances 😔

@ItsASleepySheepy 2 жыл бұрын

Amaura and Aurorus are some of my favorite Gen 6 pokemon, and even though it was in the lower tiers, I'm glad Aurorus was able to be successful. I'd love to see it get some stat buffs - even just minor ones like bringing all it's stats up to an even 125/80/75/100/95/60 - as well as access to Power Gem and Aurora Veil on it's own. Any other buffs necessary to put it in OU would probably have to be to either the Rock or Ice types themselves, or potentially to Hail.

@gileswarr1067 2 жыл бұрын

I'd like to see you try your hand at Zygarde. I want to know how its different forms affected the meta game from Generation VII onward.

@somebodyrandomly 2 жыл бұрын

Let's all take a moment to appreciate its shiny form. I personally like its shiny

@iandean1112 2 жыл бұрын

It's beautiful

@somebodyrandomly 2 жыл бұрын

@@iandean1112 Agreed

@dryayeet8400 2 жыл бұрын

Hi! Gen 8 ZU(aka untiered) player here. Aurorus had been zu for quite while, but snow warning as a whole was not used in the tier, till people realised the potential of vanilla. It was a good mon, but not overbearing, because of the broken centiskorch. Once that got banned however, vanilla absolutely took over, and after a while ,(1 month ago approx), it got banned from ZU. Aurorus turned out to be the second best one, initially with a sr set, then going full agro with power herb meteor beam. It was one of the most threatening mons in the tier, reliably p much only checked by Throh. But it wasn't banned until Alolaslash moved up to nu by usage, since Alolaslash was a major factor in aurorus' success. Its spdef set didn't check it too reliably, but it did make it use the meteor beam, switch, then try to wear it down. So yeah as of now, aurorus is BANNED from zu or untiered. Have a good day, and great vid fsg!

@theskeptic777 5 ай бұрын

With the changes to hail now being snow, Aurorus and other ice types are about to have a fucking field day this year

@cosmic-_- 2 жыл бұрын

When it came to the gen 7 uu era, i thought he was saying aegislash and i was like.. what?

@slyfox7452 2 жыл бұрын

Alot of pokemon have the issue of potentially being incredibly powerful but only being held back by a pitiful speed stat

@Glory2Snowstar 2 жыл бұрын

Usually I prefer the Fossil Pokémon based off of weirder creatures like anomalocaris, but Aurorus is such a sick, elegant concept that I can’t help but love it. It baffles me that it took so long for them to get access to Aurora Veil though, it gets Snow Warning and auroras ARE ITS THING. But they have it now and that’s cool :)

@munchrai6396 2 жыл бұрын

Aurorus is definitely one of my top 5 favorite Pokemon designs because of its impressively accurate interpretation of Amargasaurus. A Sauropod that has bony protrusions that could support a sail, but could also just as easily be spikes. I love Pokemon that have this much detail put into them that you can directly tie them back to an underappreciated animal like this

@farahkhan2654 2 жыл бұрын

I have fond memories of getting Aurorus as my first EX card when I was 8. Good time.

@BigBossMan538 2 жыл бұрын

I like this Pokémon due to it being based on one of the most unique sauropods - Amargasaurus, a South American sauropod with spikes on the back of its neck.

@jaschabull2365 2 жыл бұрын

It, along with anorith, are 2 prehistoric creatures I was introduced to as pokémon.

@gardevoirmaster5743 2 жыл бұрын

Finally been looking for this

@rukiashikon2985 2 жыл бұрын

I love how this is the Pokemon of the week, right after i just trained one yesterday

@CNightmare072 2 жыл бұрын

I learned more about insane lower-tier smogon bans that make my head hurt than how good Aurorus actually is.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

To be fair, Aurorus isn’t good. Aurorus is only good at helping other good Pokémon that are setup sweepers even better. But as that is good enough, Aurorus is used. It also seems to have a nice varied special movepool, but when do people use Aurorus for that outside of PU or NU? And though it has that movepool, how’s it going to take advantage of that since its speed is 58? And even given that Trick Room is relevant in Sword/Shield, who’d want to put in the effort to make Aurorus good save KZfaqrs where that is their gimmick? And even then, if you watch their videos, Aurorus does not put in the work. It sucks outside of being the modern suicide lead.

@Sgt_Viper000 2 жыл бұрын

Since it received a decent amount of attention towards the end, How Good was Arctozolt? I hear that it's been one of the most interesting Pokémon to move around tiers in a single generation.

@iantaakalla8180 2 жыл бұрын

Arctozolt was ignored in the beginning because Dracovish existed and then Dracozolt made it so that neither Arcto- fossil was worth trying, but it turns out that if there’s hail, Arctozolt can do so much with Bolt Beak to even OU Pokémon. This was proven by the NU hail ban and then the RU/UU Arctozolt bans later. Since Alolan Ninetales is always OU, Arctozolt has a place in OU always as that strange hail-dependent sweeper.

@criscesc 2 жыл бұрын

I remember playing with Aurorus in XY NU when it didn't got snow warning yet, I was using banded Aurorus, which was kind of a cool idea, using Banded Refrigerated boosted returns, and now with an useful rock STAB in Stone Edge, Earthquake was cool too, it did more damage to AV Hariyama and it catched off guard Audino

@flashfrozen7401 2 жыл бұрын

I love these videos and look forward to them every week. So, as a mega fan, I want to give you a little help: Vivillon is pronounced "Viv-EE-on". The L's are silent. Just helping out one of my favorite channels. Keep doing what you do and I will see you next week! 😘

@TheRealW.S.Foster 2 жыл бұрын

I'm more of a Tyantrum guy myself - Gen 6 was pretty great thanks to Tyantrum, Pyroar and that super training stuff on the 3DS.

@jamclone 2 жыл бұрын

Super training was sick ngl

@gamermanzeake 2 жыл бұрын

I was not at all expecting this from Aurorus! I figured, bad typing, bad rock special movepool, bad stats and left it at that... Hilariously this is one of those Pokémon that kind of looks at the notion of Power Creep and spits on it. Yes she's never been an OU monster, but most Ice Types are utterly glossed over. Sometimes ability and utility are more important than stats and typing.

@sarctechie 2 жыл бұрын

Never expected Aurorous to be the second gen 6 Pokemon to be discussed

@PeterXChhanX 2 жыл бұрын

Posted 1 hour ago and over 450 comments. Your channel is going strong!

@Igorcastrochucre 2 жыл бұрын

This thing was a beast in Inverse Battles, it and Mega Kangaskhan broke it when that was a thing.

@_RedRightHand_ 2 жыл бұрын

Ah yes, the "Smogon Fighting Weather" series, a classic

@VerbalLearning 2 жыл бұрын

A fun thing you can do with Aurorus in Doubles is have a fast pokemon use Round and then have Aurorus follow up with it's own Round with Refrigerate. Round gains priority when used after Round so this helps alleviate Aurorus' bad speed and gives it a powerful ice STAB move.

@CiabanItReal 2 жыл бұрын

You buff it by fixing Ice in general. Give Ice resistance to Water, Bug, and Flying, and make freeze-dry a move that ALL ice types can learn.

@infinitecriativity1588 2 жыл бұрын

Bug is a weak type is better to not nerf it even more

@hazelmarill 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that it took a whole 7 years for the pokemon who is pretty much entirely based on the aurora borealis to get aurora veil is both hilarious and upsetting.

@DeckKnight 2 жыл бұрын

Finally, Body Press Zamazenta in 2028!

@gregorywood7554 Жыл бұрын

@@DeckKnight This aged poorly.

@DeckKnight Жыл бұрын

@@gregorywood7554 technically it aged well. It would have aged poorly if Zamazenta got Body Press in 2032. Guess GF likes Zamazenta more than Flareon lol.