How Has the Ford F-150 EcoBoost Held Up Over a Decade?

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@enzop.3227
@enzop.3227 Ай бұрын
I think it’s funny how GM laughed at Ford for putting a V6 in a half ton truck at the time and now they put a 4 cylinder in their trucks.
@Billybob50119
@Billybob50119 Ай бұрын
Tell us you have no idea what you’re talking about without telling us. That 2.7 inline 4 cylinder is putting out more torque than the v6 2.7 ford. The 2.7 Ford has a crazy amount of issues, the GM has next to none…
@matthewkim983
@matthewkim983 Ай бұрын
Fords 2.7 has been pretty reliable. ​@@Billybob50119
@JOHNJ0HN9111
@JOHNJ0HN9111 Ай бұрын
@@Billybob50119 how stupid are you??? very if you ask me that gm 2.7 is number one junk for them.. GM has made nothing good in 7 years... all GM does is make junk now...
@eriktinaj8741
@eriktinaj8741 Ай бұрын
@@Billybob50119 I find it ironic when you call out others for not knowing what they are talking about when you yourself know even less. The 2.7 is one of the most robust engines ford offers (other than the 5.0) and one of the most robust on the market. The 4-cylinder from GM, however, is the biggest piece of shit of an "engine". They are failing more than GM's v8s.
@enzop.3227
@enzop.3227 Ай бұрын
@@Billybob50119 I’m just saying that GM could only advertise about Ford putting a V6 in a half ton and they were only offering V8’s only to put a four cylinder in later. FYI Ford 2.7 l is pretty reliable
@DanielJaegerFilms
@DanielJaegerFilms 27 күн бұрын
I remember all the criticism these engines got from competitors when they first came out. 14 years later every manufacturer, including Toyota, has followed suit with smaller displacement, turbocharged engines in half ton trucks. Really goes to show how ahead of their time Ford was with this platform. And the fact that it is still in use today goes to show how proven it really is.
@briceeddy625
@briceeddy625 10 күн бұрын
There all kinda poo though in comparison to the counter parts in real world scenarios. I drive 70 miles one way for work on the highway and in my 3.5 ecoboost I get 16.8 mpg vs my buddys 5.0 same truck same year just different engine and color gets 20 on the same drive same speed same tire size. Not to mention more expensive to maintain over the years.
@miniaddict4534
@miniaddict4534 3 күн бұрын
@@briceeddy625you might be doing something wrong then. I had a V8 Coyote with a 10 speed that consistently got 20 mpg, but my current 3.5 6 speed can also get that much. Considering my V8 was a super cab with a 10 speed, and my 3.5 is a 6.5” crew cab 6 speed, I’d say the 3.5 is better on gas.
@briceeddy625
@briceeddy625 14 сағат бұрын
@@miniaddict4534 I set my cruise on 80+ sure I might squeeze out an extra mile or two by slowing down to 75ish or 70. Or for the people that don’t keep consistent speeds and speed up downhill and slowdown every uphill.
@mackenzegrunig8279
@mackenzegrunig8279 Ай бұрын
I have a 13' that I just passed over 300,000 miles. Bought it new, and outside of an $1,800 rebuilt transmission, it has been flawless.
@playanddisplay3636
@playanddisplay3636 Ай бұрын
What mileage did the transmission need rebuilt? Have a 13 myself.
@mackenzegrunig8279
@mackenzegrunig8279 Ай бұрын
@playanddisplay3636 it was at 180,000. It kept slipping in and out of overdrive. From my understanding, I have not heard of it being a typical problem. I hope your 13' gets you to 300k too.
@kennetho5393
@kennetho5393 Ай бұрын
Is yours an Ecoboost? I ask cause it makes impressive torque that is a lot for a transmission to handle.
@mackenzegrunig8279
@mackenzegrunig8279 Ай бұрын
​@@kennetho5393 yup. 3.5 ecoboost. I hauled a lot in the first 200k, but the last 100k has been an easier life for it. But from all the stories I hear, I seem to be a rare success.
@PeeterPuncher
@PeeterPuncher Ай бұрын
hard to believe the inferior coolant and oil fittings on the turbos haven't leaked.
@blueridge8992
@blueridge8992 Ай бұрын
My Dad bought a fleet of 30 F150s for his home building company in 2013. All his guys requested the V8, but my Dad bought one Ecoboost as the shop truck. It built up a reputation as being the sports car of the fleet over the next 3 years, and in 2016 half the guys went Ecoboost. Then when it was time to turn in the fleet again in 2019, we got 20 2.7s, 9 3.5s, and only 1 old timer stuck with the 5.0. These days they all swear by the 2.7 because it gets such great gas mileage while still being powerful enough to handle any 3/4 ton towing duties if needed.
@PeeterPuncher
@PeeterPuncher Ай бұрын
The 2.7is a grenade with the pin pulled with the poorly designed plastic oil pan with the integrated oil pick tube not to mention the internally belt-driven oil pump........GARBAGE!
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын
@@PeeterPuncher that is your opinion, quit listening to the internet chatter about the eco 2.7, you just sound silly
@blueridge8992
@blueridge8992 Ай бұрын
@@pathunter7003 cheers! The 2.7 has been one of Ford’s most reliable engines in history. There was a run of defective valves (from a third party vender) on the Bronco production line for a few months in 2021 and now I keep seeing people online acting like the 2.7 and 3.0 have always been unreliable. Ford told the NHSTA that they had 900 warranty claims total, and every engine with the faulty parts has been fixed since 2022. A few of our 2.7 trucks had seeping oil pan gaskets but Ford fixed them for free and the new sealant held up for >100k miles on all the trucks. Otherwise, those trucks only asked us for gas, oil, tires, brakes and wiper blades. Not a single component failure over a few million miles combined.
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын
@@blueridge8992 the 2.7 eco has been an extremely reliable engine, had mine for six yrs and it has performed flawlessly. Most of the people that spread lies about this engine have never owned one and spew whatever nonsense they read on the internet. Ford can’t always control the the quality of parts they receive to build an engine, they did get a bad batch of valves from their supplier and when finding them ford took care of the problem . The 2.7 seems to be built with HD components compared to the 3.5
@BlueDevilBrew
@BlueDevilBrew 29 күн бұрын
A 2.7 being powerful enough to handle 3/4 ton towing duties is a stretch
@tylerproctor4878
@tylerproctor4878 Ай бұрын
They are on the 3rd generation of this engine. I believe it's dual injected now. First one out of the gate always gets bloody. Keep going with this series. Let's see a second and 3rd gen of this engine
@user-tb7rn1il3q
@user-tb7rn1il3q Ай бұрын
The newest Ecos are pretty bulletproof.
@volvo09
@volvo09 Ай бұрын
Yes they are all direct + port injected now.
@TimGrefer
@TimGrefer Ай бұрын
Agreed 🙌
@ajmedeiros77
@ajmedeiros77 Ай бұрын
Only the 1st Gen was direct injection only. And even many of those are holding up. The dual injection is even better
@georgelin8498
@georgelin8498 Ай бұрын
@@user-tb7rn1il3qthe 10r80 seems to be the biggest issue in the newer trucks.
@jacobbrown8482
@jacobbrown8482 Ай бұрын
I have a 2012 F150 3.5L eco boost, running great just hit 275,000 miles and all I’ve done to it was put a new water pump in it. Great truck!
@CWB1863
@CWB1863 Ай бұрын
@jacobbrown8482 I hope i have the same issue in my 2014 EB. Only have 96k. ;)
@BenDinger
@BenDinger Ай бұрын
Brings back memories of my 2011, I absolutely loved that truck. Traded it off in 2020 with 183k miles never did anything major to it, the 3.5 always treated me well. In some ways I actually prefer the 2011 to my 2020 but I can't complain at all about the 2020 with the 3.5. Already have 67k miles on my 2020 and again - not a single issue to report. Then again I drive my trucks, put in good fuel and stick to a religious maintenance schedule.
@secondgensilverado8752
@secondgensilverado8752 Ай бұрын
Maintenance is key to any engine. Haven't had issues with lifters in my hemi with 189k, but like you said I stay on maintenence. Good fuel is another thing people waaaay overlook. Lucas fuel treatment too
@coryernewein
@coryernewein Ай бұрын
While it has never been advised to miss a service interval, the difference is that if you miss an oil change or are just a neglectful owner (like most are for one reason or another) the possibility of failure is much, much less on an N/A engine🤙
@playanddisplay3636
@playanddisplay3636 Ай бұрын
@@secondgensilverado8752 The Hemi's in my life have been dead reliable too.
@kennetho5393
@kennetho5393 Ай бұрын
@@coryernewein poor maintenance could be detrimental to the turbos but shouldn't hurt the engine much more than naturally aspirated.
@waynenoel9307
@waynenoel9307 Ай бұрын
I have a 2012 eco boost and I’m about to fix my first issue in 300,000, torque converter. Been an amazing truck
@matthewbalash9579
@matthewbalash9579 Ай бұрын
I have a 2013 F-150 XLT 3.5 Ecoboost with 207k and no major issues other than my pinion bearings went out in the rear differential at 205k. I’ve owned it since 2015 and bought it will 35k on it.
@bigdaddypatty2420
@bigdaddypatty2420 Ай бұрын
I have a 2011 4x4 SCREW 6.5’ bed. 178k miles, still has power like it was new. Such a comfortable and powerful truck. Tows like a dream.
@johnsteele8382
@johnsteele8382 Ай бұрын
Still driving a 2011 with ecoboost and have 162k miles. No major issues.
@mikeweber3441
@mikeweber3441 Ай бұрын
Mine isn’t 10 years old but I have a 2017 F150 XL STX 4wd with the 2.7l EcoBoost. Has the old 6 gear ATM. I have 162,000 miles on it and I’m getting just shy of 20mpg. Take it to Colorado from Texas all the time and does great! Other than replacing a bearing and some upper ball joints, I’ve just done regular PM and it’s running like a champ.
@Sir.VicSmasher
@Sir.VicSmasher Ай бұрын
Just a main bearing... 😇
@mikeweber3441
@mikeweber3441 Ай бұрын
Well to be fair it was a wheel bearing
@Jdp313
@Jdp313 23 күн бұрын
like reading these I have 2015 with like 60k I got last year hopefully it lasts me a while.
@dennisleonard2137
@dennisleonard2137 Ай бұрын
If you CHOOSE to use boost only when you need it, the eco of 3.5 is good. On my 10 mile city commute, my 3.5 (aluminum body) averages 21mpg. The 5.4 I had previously only got 12.5 mpg on the same commute. Both are Supercab 4×4 XLT. The hiway comparison is 24 on the new one and 16 on the old one. But when I need passing power, wow, the 3.5 is way, way quicker.
@concealit4800
@concealit4800 Ай бұрын
I have a 14 f150 ecoboost 3.5 with 113k only things that have been done are oil changes, spark plugs, and 2 coil packs and rite before i changed from stock tires to 33s 13 wide i was getting 24 mpg after the big wide tires i only get 17 but if u drive in the city the hole time yea ur gonna get 14 15 ish. I love my Ecoboost
@0HOON0
@0HOON0 Ай бұрын
First gen EcoBoosts are kinda hit and miss. Awesome that you got a good one.
@GKMess42
@GKMess42 Ай бұрын
My coworker just traded in his 2012 F-150 with 160,000 miles last year (2023) because the turbos were starting to go out and mechanic quoted $7000 to fix both. My wife's 2014 Ford Escape has a turbo trying to go out, along with other issues. After these experiences, I won't own another vehicle with a turbo unless I plan on trading it around 100,000 miles.
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын
If he supposedly got a repair quote for turbo replacement of $7k he was gonna be ripped off for an extra $5k
@andyd5492
@andyd5492 Ай бұрын
@@pathunter7003 It sounds like the guy didn't want to do the job, so he priced it up. If the customer was willing to pay, he would have farmed it out. 😯
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын
@@andyd5492 that could be he case that he didn’t want to do the job, $7k is ridiculous.
@GKMess42
@GKMess42 27 күн бұрын
@@pathunter7003 doubtful. He's know the mechanic for decades. Also, the part alone for my wife's Ford Escape was $1200, not counting labor, so $7000 for two turbos on an F-150 is conceivable.
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 27 күн бұрын
@@GKMess42 the only conceivable part that his “trusted “ , which he didn’t mention that he knew him for decades, was going to rip him off if charging $7000 for turbos
@jaysson1151
@jaysson1151 Ай бұрын
Andre, that whole market campaign you were talking about was done on one engine block. Mike Rowe went along and narrated it. When I was in the process of buying my 2012 F150 Ecoboost and waiting several weeks before I can pick it up, I must have watched that documentary at least 5-6 times. I also watched you and the gang drive a 2013 up the Ike gauntlet for the first time!
@Stuka87
@Stuka87 Ай бұрын
Yeah, that was really impressive. They took a single engine and did all of those things with it. They put stickers on it to show it had never been opened up during that whole process.
@brettyoung1659
@brettyoung1659 Ай бұрын
Mike Rowe and those torture test sold me too.
@Danzilly
@Danzilly Ай бұрын
I've owned a 2.7l and 3.5l it towed well until they needed repairs early I'll stay with the 5.0l have had better luck.
@0HOON0
@0HOON0 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately the 5.0 isn't exactly a sure thing either.
@billw8476
@billw8476 Ай бұрын
@@0HOON0 the 5.0 is the best motor in ford's line up.
@chairmannemo2548
@chairmannemo2548 Ай бұрын
@@billw8476the 5.0 burns oil. The 2.7 ecoboost is battle tested made of CGI by the power stroke team.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
​@@billw8476Yep you got it brother
@russrtspooling7702
@russrtspooling7702 Ай бұрын
@@billw8476nope the 2.7 is the best built hands down
@evgeniyordanov8092
@evgeniyordanov8092 Ай бұрын
I bought my first pickup F150 3.5EB 2012. at 325056 km. from Canada, apart from the rust that was on the chassis, this truck has no problem with its mileage. After the initial removal of all fluids, I only had a problem with the leaking water pump, after its replacement everything is now concrete. For the years that I have owned it, I have installed a double oil cache can, I have a complete generation from the turbo to the end, after removing the catalysts, the pickup started to sound like a B8, then I added a panel filter and software that made the truck 385hp and 660nm at the wheels, I'm extremely happy with the purchase and after all these interventions it runs like a sports car. P.S. Greetings from Bulgaria, for the great channel you make, keep it up.
@PurpleBerryGT
@PurpleBerryGT Ай бұрын
I have a 2014 Crew Cab in the same color. I bought it in 2018 with 36k. We bought it to tow our travel trailer. The truck now has 125k and doing great. The only major issues we had were the exhaust manifold bolts breaking, happened on both sides of the engine, thank goodness it was still under the extended warranty we purchased. We have towed our TT to Colorado and Utah twice along with South Dakota, Wyoming from Georgia. We have pulled it all over the Southeast. We have over 20k of towing and it’s done great. The biggest difference I’ve noticed with a turbo charged engine in comparison to a NA engine is having to change the spark plugs more often. We’ve been very happy with ours in the 6 years we’ve owned it.
@chaleurphantom1
@chaleurphantom1 Ай бұрын
This is a Ford thing. It is not unique to your model. I had a 1999 F150 V6 that it happened to. It gives you the famous Ford tick. Ford loves a bad design and will stick with some bad designs for decades. This is one.
@Lq32332
@Lq32332 Ай бұрын
@@chaleurphantom1Hey how dare you leave my Ram out! My exhaust manifold bolts broke too! 😂
@wysetech2000
@wysetech2000 Ай бұрын
@@chaleurphantom1 Ford isn't the only one that does that.
@chaleurphantom1
@chaleurphantom1 Ай бұрын
@wysetech2000 I didn't realize this. I only drive Ford's. This has happened to a couple of trucks for me. I made the assumption that it is just one of their nuisances. Ford has a few.
@vettle1
@vettle1 Ай бұрын
I still have a 2012 3.5 EcoBoost with over 140K. No force induction issues so far, fingers crossed. Water pump at 110k, coolant leak at overflow at around 98K.
@michaelbradley770
@michaelbradley770 Ай бұрын
I have a 2013 with 140,000 roughly 40 to 45% of that was towing 5000 pounds or more the most i have towed was 15 to 16,000 pounds along with using it to plow snow with 8.5 foot v plow. The truck has had 5 star tunes since around 100,000 miles. Only things I have had to replace is the front springs/shocks ball joints and starter
@manuelramirez8203
@manuelramirez8203 Ай бұрын
More 12 gen Ford trucks Videos, TFLnow is killing it !!!
@brettyoung1659
@brettyoung1659 Ай бұрын
You can watch several episodes of this engine, going through torture test hosted by Mike Rowe. I got my first 3.5 in a 2015 XLT. 90,000 miles and 0 issues. Now 2021 3.5 STX with FX4 package. Intake,cat-back and tune on both. Beating sports cars with a truck is a blast. Ford tough for sure.
@chaleowin7732
@chaleowin7732 Ай бұрын
I purchased a 2011 Ecoboost FX4 back in 2011. I loved it, great power, good MPG. Perfect for the mountains of CO.
@Cmarshec8
@Cmarshec8 Ай бұрын
I have a 2011 EB with 207K miles. Runs great, looks great! I have had it 9 years!
@charles17508
@charles17508 Ай бұрын
Got a 2014 love it it has 130 thousand on it and shes great .
@KjartanHaga
@KjartanHaga Ай бұрын
Purchased my Lariat 2WD Ecoboost in June 2011. Just sold it last year with 210 000 miles. No issues with engine except changing a few coils and 2 sets of spark plugs. I changed the oil every 4000 miles. The latter is a must to prevent cam phaser and timing chain issues as well as protecting the turbos.
@kdcarver
@kdcarver Ай бұрын
Can you explain how changing the oil affects a cam phaser and timing chain?
@SDCV123
@SDCV123 14 күн бұрын
@@kdcarver dirty oil clogs the passages and end up not passing oil and camphasers don’t move anymore then break
@kdcarver
@kdcarver 14 күн бұрын
@@SDCV123 thanks. Glad Im a stickler for keeping to oil change schedules.
@CameronKelson
@CameronKelson Ай бұрын
Nostalgic interior. I had a 2013. But I had one of the most awesome and underrated engines - the 3.7 naturally aspirated V6. Wasn't fast and fancy like the other ones, but that thing was so damn reliable. One of the most solid motors Ford's ever made. I wish they would bring back the naturally aspirated V6 in their SUVs. The new Ecoboosts don't get any better gas mileage and are less reliable than their bulletproof NA counterparts.
@miniaddict4534
@miniaddict4534 2 күн бұрын
Yeah man, there’s no need for an Explorer to be turbocharged. All it does is make the Costco dads drive like maniacs. The 3.7 V6 in your F-150 probably had more power and capability than the 4.6 V8.
@JCWWRacing905
@JCWWRacing905 Ай бұрын
I had a 2014 FX4 EB with the same cab configuration as that one. I absolutely loved it.
@kdcarver
@kdcarver Ай бұрын
Thanks for doing this episode. I'm still the original owner of a 2011 F150 FX4 SuperCrew (door plate reads production Feb 2011) with 118,000 miles. It's been the best engine I've ever owned in a truck. I've pulled up mountain passes near Durango with 10,000 pounds in a trailer and accelerated easily during the climb. The only engine issues I've had were 1) a bad fuel incident requiring new spark plugs and injectors, 2) hoses that started to leak after about 115k miles, and 3) the turbo charger intercooler / exchanger being oversized by design. That last quirk was a strange thing to diagnose and only affected those of us in Texas and similar states where we can get a huge swing in temperature in a humid air mass during a "norther" cold front. The exchanger would over-cool the saturated air, and moisture would drop out, stalling the engine -- not great if you are trying to pass or enter a highway at speed. The solution was to cover the exchanger partially with a piece of plastic Ford designed. Haven't had a problem for the 10 years after the fix was installed. I had not heard of the "cam phaser" issue you mentioned, but I suppose that can happen to many older / higher mileage cars. The turbos lasting only to 150,000 miles is also news to me. I am approaching that mark in about 30k and it may be prudent to trade for a new model. But with the good track record I've had with this unit, I may try my luck, considering new F150s can reach $75k modestly equipped!
@Jojo-ni2cg
@Jojo-ni2cg Ай бұрын
Thanks for the video
@TFLnow
@TFLnow Ай бұрын
Our pleasure!
@nanogaming7949
@nanogaming7949 Ай бұрын
I have a black 2012 FX-4 with the Ecoboost and 142k miles. Has optional locking differential, heated and cooled seats and the 700W sound system too! Love the truck, had the molded leadframe repair covered by Ford under warranty other than that no issues so far. It gets all its services done on time.
@Mrjonesknows1218
@Mrjonesknows1218 Ай бұрын
I have the same truck, long bed tho, 170k miles and running great!
@billylee2312
@billylee2312 Ай бұрын
I had a 12 5.0 didn’t make 100,000 miles before cam journal failure. Had a 14 3.5 ecoboost traded it with a little over 150,000 miles on it never any issues. Pulled really well.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
Funny cause my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it with 161,000 miles on it is still going strong.
@billylee2312
@billylee2312 Ай бұрын
@@CJColvin I have buddies with the 5.0 and 3.5 ecoboost with 250-350,000 miles. changed spark plugs and a water pump and collent hoses. I bought mine used and they either used the wrong oil or didn’t change it as often as they should have.
@natesv04
@natesv04 Ай бұрын
​@@CJColvin165k on my 14F150 5.0 still strong
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
@@natesv04 Awesome brother
@TheBillp603
@TheBillp603 Ай бұрын
Still happy I got a 5.0 Coyote in my 2014 F-150. Get 17mpg around town 20 on long highway trips at 72-75 mph. Look up Ford Tech Makuloco for his comparison of long term EcoBoost vs V8.
@duggydo
@duggydo Ай бұрын
I drove 3 of the 2011 F150. Two were 3.5 ecoboosts and 1 was a 5.0. I owned one of the ecoboosts and the other 2 were work trucks. Never really had major problems. The 5.0 got better mileage quite easily.
@ZenEndurance
@ZenEndurance Ай бұрын
That truck is living its best life. Working and playing for a living. Go Blue!!!
@RayRayP2001
@RayRayP2001 Ай бұрын
Ford got some awesome trucks is all I say. They beating the competition hands down. I personally own a 2.7 ecoboost in a 2023 STX and love it. Has plenty for what i would do with it.
@miniaddict4534
@miniaddict4534 2 күн бұрын
I’m no brand loyalist. I’ve owned just about every brand because I love cars and do tons of research on them. I researched for the perfect half ton for months and I always came back to the 3.5 Ecoboost. Not many half tons can offer a crew cab, 6’5” bed, and 11,000 lbs towing capacity. In 2008, those numbers were only seen in 3/4 and 1 ton trucks.
@leebenson3201
@leebenson3201 Ай бұрын
Great video. Maybe you could do a few more with the older trucks and how reliable they are.
@jeswalshh
@jeswalshh Ай бұрын
I have a 14’ FX4 with the 3.5, incredible truck
@phildf2447
@phildf2447 29 күн бұрын
I have almost this exact truck, got KO2’s also, with 249,300 miles and I get 17.2 mpg. I don’t have phaser issues and haven’t had to replace any turbos. If you replace the spark plugs, gap them to .32, and replace the plug boots, it runs like a brand new engine. Other than normal maintenance, I’ve replaced the fan speed resistor 3 times, the transmission range sensor, the 4wd shift motor, and an o2 sensor. It’s really a great truck if you take care of it.
@romeolongoria8730
@romeolongoria8730 Ай бұрын
My dads 2004 4.6L v8 just came out of retirement. Glad he had an extended warranty on powertrain used it one time on engine and trans. So many mechanics hate ecoboosts but i cannot comment on them
@sundogtune
@sundogtune Ай бұрын
my 2010 5.4l v-8 had to have cam phasers replaced also!! $3800, not sure why ford cant fix the cam phaser issues ON ALL MOTORS. but besides that, this trucks has been AWESOME!! i think i have ATLEAST 6-10 more years out of this truck.( i take care of my truck). if i get 20 years out of a vehicle i am happy. BUT I WILL ALWAYS BUY A V-8!!
@volvo09
@volvo09 Ай бұрын
How often did you change your oil?
@carguybd
@carguybd Ай бұрын
Cam phasers (esp. the earlier models) have been problematic for manufacturers across the board, yes, including Toyota. Easily researched online.
@elvism684
@elvism684 Ай бұрын
$3800 seems like a lot for Cam phasers
@squangan
@squangan Ай бұрын
My original owner ‘09 is still going without cam phaser replacement and runs nice and quiet. Like you, I think I will get many more years out of it now however it’s relegated to 3rd vehicle status to be used only when I need a truck. Today I don’t have faith in new vehicles to be any better than a reliable older one so if it’s not broke don’t fix it applies for me.
@sundogtune
@sundogtune Ай бұрын
@@volvo09 every 3500 to 4000 miles with semi synthetic.
@poweredbyfaith
@poweredbyfaith Ай бұрын
I still don’t understand why Ford has not solved the cam phaser problems on the 3.5. My wife drives a 2011 Fusion and it has 150k on it with zero problems. This is why I have a 2012 Raptor with a 6.2 and a 2003 Cobra Terminator. All three of these engines are bulletproof.
@elisteele3099
@elisteele3099 Ай бұрын
you’re saying your fusion is bullet proof? my 14 1.5 L just left me stranded in the middle of the intersection a couple months ago from transmission tanking at 165k miles after doing $2000 tune up, belts, pump, plugs, etc 2 weeks prior
@drewelliott9062
@drewelliott9062 Ай бұрын
My 2013 ecoboost has been really solid.
@wyodriver20
@wyodriver20 Ай бұрын
$4k to repair an older but still nice truck, or $86 for a new one. That was the choice I had to make when it came to my’12 F-150 Pt EB. Repairing it still made better sense to me. By the way, your videos of the OG EcoBoost on the Ike Gauntlet helped me with making the choice to get one in the first place. Thanks, TFL!
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
For me you're better off getting a 07-21 Toyota Tundra with the 5.7L I-Force V8, you'll be much happier with the Tundra with the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the long-term vs the overpriced EcoBoost F150.
@luisinhoens90
@luisinhoens90 Ай бұрын
@@CJColvin Fuel economy will offset the repair costs while not towing nor hauling as much as an F150. They're both overpriced to be honest
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
@@luisinhoens90 True, you're better off with an old school F150 from 92-96.
@kevinanglin678
@kevinanglin678 Ай бұрын
My dad has a 13 4 door 3.5 ecoboost f150 has 190k on it now after hundreds of tons of gravel hauling and family traveling still has original turbos and 8 original coil packs 2 of them was replaced at 30k miles 3 sets of spark plugs and not so frequent oil changes has went over the oil change interval several times and just now started getting the timing chain rattle at start up still runs fine and pulls fine never had valves cleaned either I now have a 23 f150 3.5 to see how well the new ones go
@benjaminford8173
@benjaminford8173 Ай бұрын
I miss EVGA cards, they were so good :C
@bendino9016
@bendino9016 Ай бұрын
my 2011 silverado has 246k miles and has had no major repairs done to it. no cam issues, no afm issues (tuned out) and the 6 speed auto is doing great for the age. i also get 16-18 mpg.
@keithhunt3437
@keithhunt3437 Ай бұрын
My 2011 Silverado burned oil like a middle eastern oil baron, gum up on cylinder 7, possible rear main oil leak and the tranny would act very strange sometimes. I was the second owner after 150k miles worked with the guy he’s a boat mechanic and a veteran airplane mechanic so I figured he kept up with maintenance but I guess not lol.
@Icutmetal
@Icutmetal Ай бұрын
Seems relevant.
@bendino9016
@bendino9016 Ай бұрын
I might have gotten lucky with my trucks reliability, but I just take care of it.
@tacticalidiot175
@tacticalidiot175 Ай бұрын
@@bendino9016 jealous of the 6 speed. my poor 4l60e has gone 190k without having the fluid changed. Thing is tired.
@CWB1863
@CWB1863 Ай бұрын
I own a 2014 3.5L ecoboost with 96k. Just recently put a catch can on(wish i knew about these sooner) and it's been running great. At 75K, i changed the spark plugs, transmission fluid, coolant, diffs etc. I also have been changing the oil every 3,500k using Pennzoil Ultra plat. or Valvoline HM Max Life. No hauling or towing...I baby my truck, so let's hope for another 96k+. But of course, gotta know the starter, alternator and water pump will go in the time span. Fingers crossed on the cams.
@nbthirtytwo
@nbthirtytwo Ай бұрын
My 2011 f150 ecoboost has 260,000 miles. It’s been a great truck. Had some issues with transmission and recently had to spend about $1,500 on repairs. Bought it brand new in 2011.
@Cloud30000
@Cloud30000 Ай бұрын
I like seeing videos of how the first year of a new design (before they work out the kinks) holds up over time; really shows what brands are less risky and what brands to always wait for the second year.
@ButterBiscuit9
@ButterBiscuit9 Ай бұрын
Still as pretty as new. Nice truck with a smart layout.
@richj120952
@richj120952 Ай бұрын
I remember looking for an small SUV for my wife. Ford's first ecoboost Escape was one of the considerations. (Along with a RAV4.) I almost got the Escape, but then, fires! Ecoboost failure, leaks. So, went with the RAV4. Later, in 2013 I was looking for a truck. Settled on an F150 STX 4X4, but never wanted anything to do with the ecoboost V6. Chose the 5.0 liter V8 Coyote engine. Quite happy with that choice. I did sell the truck (trade in) back in 2020 and got another F150 with 5.0 liter (XLT with most of the geegaws available, tow package and 2 wheel drive.) Quite happy with it. Don't think I will ever get an ecoboost V6. If anything, I might have a supercharger installed on my 5.0, tuned for mileage and a small HP boost with torque boost. But, it is not really needed. The Coyote engine does quite well.
@pathunter7003
@pathunter7003 Ай бұрын
The eco escape engine is nothing like what is in the f150, totally different.
@mclovin0486
@mclovin0486 Ай бұрын
Right on! I have a 2011 with 238,000 miles. I have yet to do any major engine or transmission work.
@1FiftyOverland
@1FiftyOverland Ай бұрын
I have a 2015 2.7l ecobeast f150 it has 153,000 miles on it.
@KJOSS208
@KJOSS208 Ай бұрын
Bought a 2013 in 2022 with 104K miles. It's currently at 145K right now and within 41K miles, I've had $19,000 in mechanical repairs done. Failing turbos and intercooler to the timing chain and cam phasers needing replaced and leaking exhaust manifolds, brake booster, throttle body just to name a few things. Thank God for extended warranties. With all that taken care of, it's a comfortable truck to drive with plenty of power to do what I need it to do.
@bobcoats2708
@bobcoats2708 Ай бұрын
Pretty cool that you were able to get an extended warranty on a nine year old truck
@KJOSS208
@KJOSS208 Ай бұрын
@@bobcoats2708 I agree. Seems like most used car lots in my area offer that when purchasing a vehicle and it ties into the loan. Definitely a must on any truck since anything can happen and repairs aren't cheap! Lol
@rachaad
@rachaad Ай бұрын
I waa thinking about 2011 F 150 models.. very underrated year. Definitely do a video of the other two engines of that year
@rayzee7561
@rayzee7561 Ай бұрын
I bought a 2011 3.5l new, in 2011. The intercooler you showed was stock, but I went in for a recall one time and a black plastic cover was put over a portion of the intercooler. The mech said it was because the intercooler was cooling the air too much and sometimes water dropped out. I now have a 2021 but it doesn't have the black plastic cover over the intercooler. I guess they built a smaller one??? I also lost the blue color on the oval Ford emblem on the tailgate. I sold the 2011 after 10 years with no breakdowns. I only changed the brakes, belt, oil and filters and did general routine preventative maintenance.
@jpowell9343
@jpowell9343 Ай бұрын
My 13 5.0 supercrew has been a great worktruck Waterpump, trans sensor,1 wheel bearing . My blend door makes a noise but 3yrs later I put up with it. 200,000kms
@kennethwhitt7509
@kennethwhitt7509 Ай бұрын
I have an 02 tundra 4x4 with 212k. Ive had it since 2019 with 140k. Only drivetrain work done is timing belt water pump and valve cover gaskets and radiator at 200k. Might sound like alot but it was about 2k spent for 200k miles. I get around 15 mpg. I change the oil every 5k and drive it. I have thought avout getting an ecoboost for gas mileage but in my budget would need to get one with about 100k miles. I'm afraid maintenance that would he needed on one would offset any money saved on the small mpg bump.
@derekroberts1395
@derekroberts1395 Ай бұрын
I had a 2018 F150, 3.5 twin turbo. At 53,000 the cam phasers started rattling! Even though it was still under warranty, the inconveniences of not having transport for weeks was enough to make me sell it. I bought a 2021 F150 V8, so far all is well with it. If Ford have had the cam problem all these years and haven’t done anything to fix it, tells me that the eco boost is a bad idea. Stick to naturally aspirated if you can’t solve the problems that come with stretching the performance in a smaller engine.
@kingdaniel3519
@kingdaniel3519 Ай бұрын
Problem is the 5.0 has the same common issue with phasers.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
@@kingdaniel3519 Funny cause my 2011 Ford F150 with a 5.0L Coyote V8 in it has 161,000 miles on it and still going strong with no rattle cam phasers what's so ever?
@davidestrada7337
@davidestrada7337 Ай бұрын
@@kingdaniel3519 i have a 2019 Mustang GT 5.0 never had a issue with cam phasers
@Dqalex
@Dqalex 17 күн бұрын
My 2013 f-150 FX4 3.5 eco had over 80,000 on it when I traded it in. No catch can nothing aftermarket on it. No problems at all. Just routine maintained I traded it last year for a 2023 F150 Tremor I was so happy with the eco boost I bought another.
@SuperClayJones
@SuperClayJones Ай бұрын
I have a 2011 Ford Crown Vic and get 27 MPG, on the Highway driving from TX to MX and back. 155k mile on it and runs ... Like a champ
@EnthusiastCarHangar
@EnthusiastCarHangar Ай бұрын
I owned a 2013 F-150 Platinum with the tow package and long bed. Was a great truck and I regret that I sold it.
@smithjones1906
@smithjones1906 Ай бұрын
I'm with Andre regarding not being 100% certain Ford has ever solved the cam phaser issue. There are questions about the "updated" parts and if trucks manufactured/repaired with them have a perfect reliability record. Last I looked, if you could cut through all the brand loyalists and fanatics, it seemed like more time was needed to have any confidence about the updated parts. They were supposedly introduced to late-production 2019 models, but I know of one late 2019 truck (my Dad's) that had the issue. Others say they've encountered the issue in 2020+ trucks. I bet we'll have better/more data within the next year or so.
@aem276
@aem276 Ай бұрын
I sold to my Daughter & SIL my ‘11 F-150, XLT CrewCab w/3.5L twin turbo having 200k miles & They’re very happy w/it… He’s a professional mechanic & completed his own unaccompanied inspection(s) (@ my insistence) making the purchase in Jan ‘24… He expects this vehicle has another 100k-150k miles in it… Mac😎👍
@FosterFarmsOk
@FosterFarmsOk Ай бұрын
my 2011 3.7 v6 has 250k on it and runs like a champ. just some simple repairs like water pump and little things. great truck.
@gordonmckay914
@gordonmckay914 29 күн бұрын
I just bought a 2011 F150 with the Ecoboost, with 219000km on it. Seems good so far. I also have 2011 F250 Super Duty 6.7L as well. Have had it for 4 years now. Use the diesel to pull trailers and a 5th wheel camper. Excellent trailer puller. I would like to see more on these truck.
@allanrheaume5549
@allanrheaume5549 Ай бұрын
I 've got a 2018 with only 48,000 miles, I've been hearing the cam phaser noise on start up for the last 6 months or so.
@scoutgermaine7605
@scoutgermaine7605 Ай бұрын
I currently have this generation as a 2012 5.0 and love it! However, mine has a factory quirk where even though it's a 5.0 they still put the license plate off to the side on accident. They didn't even put the center mount in. So I leave it cause it's a cool little quirk that Ford owners know lol
@JimmyCasket02
@JimmyCasket02 Ай бұрын
I bought a 2013 f150 about a year and half ago and had to put an engine in it not even 5k miles after buying it so I know the feeling of being kinda “stuck” with that truck but I love the power it has it has a pretty decent sound with an intake and the 4 inch exhaust on it and seeing how complicated brand new stuff is it makes my truck seem simple even though it’s incredibly complex itself all in all I’m happy with it id still buy an ecoboost again when the time comes which hopefully is a long time from now
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford that EcoBoost F150? Also will it outlast the 5.7L I-Force V8 in the 07-21 Toyota Tundra?
@JimmyCasket02
@JimmyCasket02 Ай бұрын
@@CJColvin there’s not many engines around that’ll outlast a Toyota 5.7 and that’s fine but the Toyota 5.7 won’t out last my 7.3 powerstroke
@AdventuresonGardenSt
@AdventuresonGardenSt Ай бұрын
Had this truck. Timing chain started rattling at 60k, had to have it replaced twice, first install job went bad. Would love to somehow know what % of the 3.5s had this issue. Great engine when it runs.
@JackSpeed
@JackSpeed Ай бұрын
My dad has a 2012 f150 ecoboost with around 250,000 miles. Engine itself is pretty reliable besides some cam phaser noise at cold start. The turbos and water pump had to be replaced at 150,000 miles and now the new turbos have coolant leaking from them
@Eddeville303
@Eddeville303 27 күн бұрын
I had a 2014 f150 ecoboost that I drove for 10 years before selling it to my dad. Only thing I had to change outside of regular maintenance was an oxygen sensor at 90k miles. Currently own a 2022 I have not had any issues in almost 2 years, hopefully it lasts as long as my 2014
@bishopkrs
@bishopkrs Ай бұрын
I have a 2011 with 205k. Great truck. Did just have to replace the PCM. Random failure I’m sure. Also have repaired some oil lines on the turbos. Great engine and great power. Ford was on the right path and likely “ahead of their time”
@drvncwdrvncw7906
@drvncwdrvncw7906 Ай бұрын
I know this may sound weird, but after looking at Andre’s earlobe with that crease, that could be a sign of early heart disease it’s called “Frank’s sign” look it up. Just to let you know keep an eye on that. I like your videos
@spursdynasty7378
@spursdynasty7378 Ай бұрын
Thanks for making people aware of this ! Glad I don’t have it, at least not yet …
@cidlopez
@cidlopez Ай бұрын
What part of the video?
@bryanbrowning5746
@bryanbrowning5746 Ай бұрын
Wive’s tale.
@cidlopez
@cidlopez Ай бұрын
@@bryanbrowning5746 not according to the medical literature I read after seeing this post. Google NIH franks sign
@cpuwizard9225
@cpuwizard9225 Ай бұрын
I have a completely stock 2012 (minus the SuperChips canned tune) and other than needing a wheel bearing and caliper it hasn't given me problems in the 220k miles Ive had it. Kinda glad I took the risk. His doesn't have the locking rear diff like mine does.
@HumpDaddy01
@HumpDaddy01 Ай бұрын
11 EB 170k hvac blend door, 188k water pump, 207k starter
@Yon150
@Yon150 Ай бұрын
2015 2.7 Sport FX4 super crew at 130k has been very solid since I bought it new no issues. Majority of the time drive in sport mode and get 17mpg. Hopefully stays that way and that its regular maintenance keeps it going. Looking to upgrade the suspension soon to either 2” Fox or Bilstein, any recommendations?
@chrishughes4652
@chrishughes4652 Ай бұрын
14.9 mpg isn’t bad average if it’s done any work/hauling/towing guys, can’t believe the comments. I guess some guys don’t use there trucks as ‘:trucks.’’
@youtubecarspottersguide1
@youtubecarspottersguide1 Ай бұрын
like the smaller super cab with 6.5' box
@Lifelesstoaster
@Lifelesstoaster Ай бұрын
Great truck!! I had an F-150 for a while with the ecoboost and the only issue I had was the exhaust manifold warping and breaking a stud. Supposedly Ford fixed the cam phasers the issue is that they are working through the supply of the old ones until they start with the new ones. That’s the rumor anyway.
@playanddisplay3636
@playanddisplay3636 Ай бұрын
Have 160k of hard miles on my 2013 3.5 F-150. I run a landscaping company, and the little truck has to pinch hit with my tandem axel dump trailer and equipment hauler on occasion and has really impressed myself and my foreman who have towed with it. I live on the continental divide in Montana at over a mile in elevation, this little engine definitely outperforms my 3/4 ton gas v=8 trucks towing here in the mountains, wish Ford would use this engine or ideally a larger I-6 Ecoboost(style direct injection) engine in their Superduty line.
@failranch9542
@failranch9542 29 күн бұрын
That’s a good idea. I really like the idea of a TT I6 like the Hurricane. That architecture would work great in a 1 ton. You’ve got the space (Cummins I6 swaps have proven that) and the 7 main bears of the I6 would make quite durable. Only thing is, I’m not sure they want durability as it would cut out their lucrative after warranty repairs. Ecoboost V6 is perfect for them. Makes it all the way to the end of the warranty and then becomes Ecoboom.
@playanddisplay3636
@playanddisplay3636 28 күн бұрын
@@failranch9542 Not sure what makes you think ecoboost don't last. Has not been my experience. Have blown up more 5.7 Hemi's than anything else honestly.
@jeremiah.zittle
@jeremiah.zittle Ай бұрын
Would love to see the 6.7 power stroke from 2011. Bring it!!
@bigkat217
@bigkat217 Ай бұрын
My brother just traded in a 2011 3.5 Ecoboost for a 2022 3.5 Ecoboost. 220,000 miles with the original engine and trans. He really loved that truck, he only got rid of it after putting in $8,000 into it because of the custody agreement has him driving a minimum of an hour for each way for work and each way for his kids plus her enrolling them in sports. So it was worth it getting a new truck. The dealership listed his truck for $7000.
@TheLawlessGang
@TheLawlessGang Ай бұрын
2015 3.5 supercrew been good to me bought it with 18k miles now at 88k miles only problem i had so far was a bad cat got it replaced free at ford run full syntethic every 3500 miles no rattles aboit to do spark plugs and transmission hope to get it to 150k with no issues before i even think about selling
@austingibson7
@austingibson7 Ай бұрын
I remember asking for this video just a few weeks ago and you guys delivered. Awesome video guys, love to see the older Gen trucks get some appreciation especially in today's truck market.
@kyleh3972
@kyleh3972 7 күн бұрын
2017 2.7L eco boost. 86k on it. Driver side ball bearing and a lean in my rear differential. Other than that oil changes every 3k. And a catch can on passenger side. Runs like a champ. Average 29/ mile. Love my truck. Too bad the kids soiled the rear seats from snacks and food.
@enjoylife7030
@enjoylife7030 Ай бұрын
I love the idea of a V6 or Inline 6 in a half-ton truck if it could improve fuel economy. But if it still gets V8 fuel economy, I'd just go for the V8 nearly every time.
@ValentinArzola
@ValentinArzola Ай бұрын
One year prior, the 2010 Ford F150 also carried the 4.6l V8 3 valve engine.
@0HOON0
@0HOON0 Ай бұрын
The 4.6 is the best of the modern Ford truck engines.
@mikeweber3441
@mikeweber3441 Ай бұрын
Had an ‘06 f150 with the 4.6, sounded great, drove great, put 170,000 on it before handing it off to a family member.
@Thankyou_3
@Thankyou_3 Ай бұрын
4.6 litre is an awesome engine. It didn’t visit the dealership for major repairs like the Ecoboost garbage.
@scorpio13617
@scorpio13617 Ай бұрын
My 2010 has the 2V 4.6L with only 57,000 miles on it. Arguably one of the most reliable engines out there.
@keyman5700
@keyman5700 Ай бұрын
My ford expedition has 175,000 miles we were told by the Ford mechanics that the 3.5 L cam phaser issue was due to the oil since we change the Amsoil we had no longer had any cam phaser issues with the car.
@BS55331
@BS55331 2 күн бұрын
I took a 2012 Lariat ecoboost to 140000 miles. After replacing the timing chain due to the cam phaser issue, having the parking brake switch continually stick and rebuilding the moonroof due to a broken plastic component I lost trust in it lasting much longer. Managed to cash out while the market was still hot and traded it in for a 2022 F350 with the 7.3L Godzilla engine. While it was a fun truck to drive, no more ecoboosts for me.
@jerrybockes4769
@jerrybockes4769 Ай бұрын
I’ll stick with the 5.0, very strong engine and if u wanna build actual power it will hold it
@JoseHernandez-co4mw
@JoseHernandez-co4mw 19 күн бұрын
I owned a 2018 stx and on long trips i was getting 29.9 mpg i own a 2021 f150 sport love the technology and how i get my navigation on my guages and on long trips going 70 on eco mode the most i have gotten was 35 mpg
@CaptainS0305
@CaptainS0305 Ай бұрын
I have a 2011 F150 Lariat with the Ecoboost but mine is a Super Crew with 156k on the clock. The only issue is that it leaks coolant in the Texas Spring/Summer heat. Hoses shrink and it stops leaking in the Fall and Winter.
@JBD-mr5od
@JBD-mr5od Ай бұрын
I have a 2013 f150 3.5 ecoboost and it still runs great with 213k miles. Great gas mileage and towing
@christophernoe5367
@christophernoe5367 Ай бұрын
These trucks suffered from the owners more than anything else. The amount of newer age turbo gas trucks ive worked on whos owners run the cheapest oil and filter possible, as well as just cheap junky air filters is crazy. When taken care of, the majority of people will have a great experience.
@scottieray
@scottieray 11 күн бұрын
I have a 2-door Bronco FE with the 2.7. It has plenty of grunt considering the weight. In Eco mode I see mpg in the mid to upper 20s. Not bad on 35s. Only have 33k miles, but reliable so far on the trails.
@jaimecaballeros
@jaimecaballeros Ай бұрын
I fell in love with the “ecoboost” campaign when Ford introduced these engines and made me want to purchase one. Now I have a 2017 3.5 Ecoboost with close to 170,000 miles with minimal repairs. Yes, the phasers had to be replaced, and oxygen sensors, but the truck is solid excellent. I get average 20mpg. I’m the first owner of this vehicle, I know I won’t need another one for a long time.
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford one with ease? Also do you like Muscle cars as well?
@carguybd
@carguybd Ай бұрын
Just as a frame of reference, the host of Cars and Bids had a similar vintage Toyota Land Cruiser, well under 100k mi., and he put $18k into repairs before waiving the white flag. As the saying goes- “your results may vary.” We have a couple of Ecoboosts in our family approaching 200k mi. that have been bulletproof. I’m thinking about an F-150 but would go with the 5.0 Coyote. My 21 year old Ranger has been absolutely rock solid though, so I have no reason to sell it.
@cwqrpportable
@cwqrpportable Ай бұрын
Good point and thanks for that reminder........
@jax1079
@jax1079 Ай бұрын
Weird... All these people commenting that their Ecoboost engines have been pretty reliable and lasted hundreds of thousands of miles. Meanwhile, over in Toyota Land, everyone is losing their minds and swearing that turbocharged engines will grenade themselves at 7 miles and cost $3.2 million in turbo replacement. 🙄
@CJColvin
@CJColvin Ай бұрын
What job do you have and how much money do you make to afford these EcoBoost trucks?
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