Hindu Atheist is an Oxymoron😂😂

“Stop watching Ben Shapiro shows” cracked me up real good. 😂

Regarding the last point, people who culturally appropriate all religious practices of the past that have been in existence in this very land doesn't seem to be interested in acknowledging practices like the Sati pratha a part of Hinduism. That's cherry picking.

In that sense I guess I'm a Hindu Catholic

I would love to see/hear a concrete definition of hinduism and hindu before debating because they can cherry pick the things according to whatever suits to their narrative........

"without a lot of mental gymnastics" proceeds to do mental gymnastics aaaa

Vimoh , thank you for being so wholesome, respectful and calm . Thank you ❤

I do think non of our great grandfathers or great grandmothers would identify themselves as Hindu, they would identify themselves based on caste and also follow strick traditions. Even now my mother shivite traditions because that is what her grandmother taught her.

As a Hindu I am so baffled by how they try to incorporate anything and everything and undervalue them, Buddha Vishnu avatar, aethism, they'd just incorporate anything and say it's part of Hinduism and never understand what things actually are

Vimoh let me tell you, Nastik schools of philosophy are different from Vedic philosophy. In Valmiki Ramayan, it is written to treat atheists like thieves

Culture = shared values , so simple yet so profound. Although I’m not an atheist I love your content and clarity.

Brahman is me, brahman is Ghazni, brahman destroyed temples.. actually all muslims are hindus😅

I think the guy was very confused, and wasn’t able to articulate himself. And you handled him respectfully! 👏

Basically he is in identity crises right now, calling himself only atheist will strip away his sole personality and identity of being a hindu, he is well educated i guess, he is fighting himself, and want to come to a middle ground by calling himself a "hindu atheist", I can relate to that guy

Mann, you should have asked him to define Hinduism

I'm a Christian Atheist. As God lives in me, there is no difference between me n him. So I'm an atheist🤪 On the side I'm also a cycling cook

Hindu Atheist...what next...Hindu Ambedkarite?

"Everything is hindu" 💀💀💀💀

Like objects, laws & concepts can preexist before they got a name or label @vimoh 22:30

My god this conversation ended on a good note. I rarely see that happen. 😅

A hindu-atheist is basically an oxymoron.

@vimoh how do I connect with you for a discussion? Is there any link or is there any time I can join in when you go live? I would like to disscuss with you regarding atheism and so called Hinduism. Please let me know. Thanks

bruh that 12:20 , laughed for a straight minute, I am glad i found this channel.

"I understood your question"; "did you answer it"?

I don't understand how that can be a problem. I am not an atheist, I am an agnostic. But I was born in a Hindu Bengalee family...and I acknowledge my native culture. Culture and religion are 2 different things. Culture may be derived from religion..or religion may be derived from culture, that's a seperate discussion. So from cultural perspective, I can say I am a Hindu bengalee, being an agnostic. Similarly, someone can be a Hindu, and an atheist. I thin

To say "I don't believe in god" becomes more nuanced due to the inclusion of the word "god" in it. Then it becomes pertinent to ask a question which god, what type of a god or even which functionality of the god. Even denying the concept of god which is more personal becomes a problem at least theoretically because an individual might tend to look around for a better concept than what he/she had. Further, it is also difficult to overcome a trauma that a person can undergo while coming to the consensus. In all it is more complicated and more nuanced and I think only personal exploration and healing (from the trauma) can help a person to find his/her own answers!

I think "atheist-hindu" makes a more sense in english, since here the first word works as an adjective, and the second, a noun. It's sounds strange for an atheist to be described as hindu, because 'hindu' is inclusive of theistic beliefs. But adding the adjective of 'atheist' before 'hindu' sounds fine, because you're specifying that you are a kind of hindu in certain facets that do not include theistic beliefs.

Another point to mention is a logical fallacy in the neo-carvak's argument. It's that, even though ancient greek democratic ideals are practised in today's worlds in a modified manner, that doesn't qualify every "ancient" idea to be modified and put to use. Also, if you think about it, whatever the masses find acceptable is what will be modified, and other things, well, they will get deleted. (Tl;dr not every ancient idea is a modifiable, acceptable, or even usable in today's times, just because certain of them were)

In times where the Charvakas lived, being an Hindu was believing in the authority of Vedas. So if anyone rejects Vedas, they automatically turn non-Hindu.

If Brahma is everything as in the cosmos, then would I be correct to use Brahma as a synonym for the word cosmos?

Damn, I admire your patience.

Hello! Can someone please guide me as to how can I contact him if I have some questions about Atheism?

Have you heard about Sankhya, Vaisheshik,Mimansa, Aajivika,Charvaka?

if they are saying that this or that is not definition of hindu or hinduism then how can they mark things as hindu like charvaka

As a random viewer, I really need to put this out there... this discussion was to be honest... pointless! And to be frank, no matter how much we deny, we as biological organisms tend to try to fit in any social group that we are a part of! This is one of the reason that I think this caller calls themselves "Hindu atheist" very well knowing that saying "Hindu" is completely a useless point right there. It's also interesting to me, how our right brain (the one that speaks) can convince itself about any horseshit that it wants to believe. Another interesting point to ponder would be "Why have all human societies developed some kind of religion?" I would love seeing such, proper, and meaningful debate on this channel!

This is what singing to a cow looks like.😂

Atheism is a part of the broader Hindu religion, which also includes belief in god(s), so he calls himself a Hindu atheist. So I can who likes steak, can call myself a vegetarian because I like my steak with a side of shallots or brussels sprouts, or roasted carrots with oregano Can I call myself a vegetarian like that?

Also I took Philosophy, in Indian school of philoshophy Nastik isnt someone who doesn't believe in god, it means someone who rejects the authority of the vadas.

OMG Vimoh you have the patieof a SAINT!!! I wouldve started screaming at him to be smarter. He just had this whole strategy prepared and memorized ready to regurgitate on his board exam paper. Lekin kuch questions out of sulyllabus aagaye 🤣🤣🤣

including yourself within Hindu atheist thought or Charvaka philosophy is basically making you susceptible to straw man arguments

Vimoh you taught him a good lesson, good job, either you can call yourself hindu muslim or Christian but you cant call yourself muslim atheist or hindu atheist you can be either on religious one or atheist😊

Hi i'm a Muslim atheist

Charvaka , Akivika , Buddhism and Jainism are not part of so-called Hindu fold. They reject vedas which is root of the Vedic religion (Hindus nowadays have problem with the term Hinduism). They are nastika philosophises. Hindu philosophy contains the shar darshan (yoga, vaiseshika, sankhya, mimansa , vedanta and nyaya).

See he told you why he uses 'hindu atheist'..because its all about optics these days. He is worried someone might call him a leftist so he uses this term. I am a hindu cyclist btw🙂

18:15 🔥🔥

I have a proud hindu friend just like him. Whenever i talk about something from Indian history she also emphasises it is hindu history so call it Hindu history and takes pride in every other positive thing to show how great ancient Hindu culture was. But whenever I bring the topic of caste or sati practice uska munh band ho jata. Waha wo glorious hi du history pe proud nahi feel karenge, acknowledge Tak nahi karna chahenge 😂

my whole opinion on this is the question you asked , that if you ask a hindu today that is there god what will he answer , but what if i go back to pre colonial times and i ask do you believe in bhagwan , who would have said which one ? , so here is the whole trick that is being played that ,the god is non indian terminology that has been attached to Hinduism

Bruh just read what the heck Hindus mean by the term 'Brahman' that's their God. Afterwards just tell me how is it an theistic god? As far as current day Hinduism is considered it's simply a byproduct of bhakti movement ( of the saguna strands) and abrahamic culture.

He is just twisting words. It doesnt matter if you beleive in God or not. He is defining Hindu based on what ignorant Hindus belief. Why to limit Hindu to Gods. Hinduism is an Umbrella under which different paths fall. He is saying it coomplicates things. What is complicated here. We are humans . We may be male or females. But we call ourself humans. Is saying human complicated? Why are we fighting around words that can be defined by each human differently. I choose to call Indian culture of multiples paths and seeking as Hindu and we all should do so and take in knowledge from multiple schools of thoughts. Leftist or like minded people choose to diminish Hindus to vedas and belief in God. They also came up with theries to divide North and south based on Atyan invasion theroy. I disagree with them.

Dude trying to say he is the Savarkar kind of aethiest? 😂

"Stop watching Ben Shapiro"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 🤣🤣🤣🤣

He points out the paradox in Adwaita and points out that there is no God. Adwaita is the latest (may be the smartest) Hindu theist philosophy, and when you understand Adwaita is wrong, and the world can be explained without the presence of Brahman or GOD, you became an atheist (or a Hindu atheist as per him). I can see him point.

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Hindu isn't a defined term itself. It is originally geographic but now religion. So hindu atheist should mean someone who considers themselves part of hindu society but doesn't follow religious practices.

Vimoh is a perfect Charvak.. I say it as a compliment

Really😀🤣

Unlike other religions being Hindu doesn't mean believe in something. It largely comprises of many sectors like ayurveda, politics, science & scientific debates, spiritual, different schools of thought, moral stories and many more. I call myself as Hindu atheist too. That means I want to follow Hindu cultures & traditions like respecting elders (touching feet), putting tilak, celebrating Hindu festivals etc. Being atheist doesn't mean losing your identity or roots. Also, I would prefer reading the scriptures provided by our elders to define & refine my personal path than being blunt or turning blindside to religious texts.

the atheism is identity not just lack of belief in God or gods carvaks are technically atheists but cannot be called hindu atheist because the term hindu also includes religious concepts

But theists never use the label... Hindu theist!.. only hindu atheist tag along the term hindu.

It is like im muslim atheist.. either im muslim or atheist..😊

Tomorrow there will be sanatani atheists. It's just another conniving masquerade to not take responsibilities of the rot inside Hinduism but then again 'sanatan bhi th bachana' hai. The term Hindu itself has some controversial origins.the boy is in the youtube hellhole of conservative speakers and influencers with all BS logic been spouted endlessly.The boy will get over it once he sees how he himself is contradicting his own position multiple times

Hindu atheist is a person who uses Hindu atheistic philosophies as the basis for his atheism. You said one such person could simply mention the philosophy in question (like Advaita follower being Advaitist) instead of using the wider word Hindu which includes theistic philosophies too. In that respect, I agree that it creates confusion when discussing philosophies. But in regular conversation, it is a useful label for identification purposes as lot of Hindus know that there are atheistic philosophies in Hinduism but may not know the exact philosophies in question. It also helps gain them better acknowledgment from mainstream Hindus as they use the word 'Hindu' in their identity and help Hinduism appear in a broader, more accepting light. Thanks for the discussion which helped me think about my beliefs in a different light.

Mere bhai ko Set-Subset padhaao koi bitha ke.

Vimoh's lack of knowledge is quite evident here! A Hindu would be someone who accepts the authority of the Vedas and a Hindu atheist would be someone who accepts the Vedas but rejects God's existence. There were schools like Mimamsa and Sankhya that accepted Vedas and attempted to interpret Vedas in atheistic lines. Now you can't dismiss them from atheism, they emphatically denounced God. Atheism simply means denying God's existence, now on top of this you can be an idealist atheist (rejecting God but accepting consciousness as the sole ontological reality), You can be a materialist atheist (Only matter is ontologically existent), in fact, you can be religious and also atheist at the same time Buddha is the best example or Buddhists are atheists but religious. Philosophically speaking atheism is simply the affirmation of the negation of God's existence, anything more than this is an add-on and not a necessary pre-requisite. To think that atheism defined by neo-atheists like Dawkins, etc is the only viable definition of atheism is absurd and also exhibits ignorance of real facts. Vimoh's points are childish, like just because most Hindus today are theist does not mean there were never atheist Hindus or they couldn't be. Sankhyans rejected God's existence outright, and Mimansakas rejected God's existence despite accepting Vedas because for them Vedas were a guidebook for Objective moral standards. 11:11 what a stupid remark! The reason why the tag "Hindu" is important because there are and there were atheists who accepted the doctrine of Vedas without accepting God, hence if such an atheist exists today he must specify he is a Hindu atheist and not a materialist atheist like yourself!

Theist and atheist debate on calling 6 as 9 and 9 as 6

if all schools are teaching in hindi as common language everyone would be speaking hindi , it is the choice that government made not by British,

I am a cycling cook though

HI Vimoh, I am the Neo Carvak caller and I just wanted to clarify a couple of points. 1. When I said atheism was possible under the Adwaita Vedanta school, I forgot to add that Adwaita vedanta considers the whole universe and all it's beings (including all the deities) to be maya/illusion. Therefore atheism is possible under the adwaita vedanta framework. 2. When you questioned how the adwaita vedanta school was mainstream, I failed to elaborate how modern hinduism's unification is largely a result of sankaracharya and his teachings and efforts, such as establishment of mutts across India. His teachings became the new orthodoxy which resulted in the emergence of a unified Vedic orthodoxy. 3. Hinduism is not merely the Vedic thought, Sramanic thought, or anything else. It rests on the principle of "Adhikara Bhedha" which is a theological term accepted by pretty much all the schools of Indian thought and it refers to the tolerant idea which allows for theological difference and all paths being equally worthy. Vivekananda had his own version of this which is "Jato Mat Tato Pat". Therefore my definition of Hindu is merely a negatory term which refers to anyone who does not condemn people holding other ideas to hell (or gulags for that matter). 4. The Carvaka school of thought does not believe in the God, the Vedas, any supernatural beings and ideas etc. I believe in a modern version of the same school which takes into account modern scientific findings and other things. I still call myself a Hindu because Hindus consider me a Hindu. It is a pity that you fail to realise the tolerance of this particular community which allows within it's society such radically divergent views. My last point meant that when you said that the Carvaka school has no relevance to today, I should have elaborated that it does not matter that it was too long ago, because many ideas we currently have still exist today modified taking into account modern sensibilities and changes. This is healthy and it should be encouraged.

What if creation and the creator is one. A new school of thoughts.

When you compare Hinduism with classical (Abrahmic) religions like Christianity and Islam, you will understand what Hinduism means. We call everyone Hindu who is not tied to one single book and a prophet/ messenger of God. As simple as that. It's an umbrella term. It became important for us to identify ourselves as Hindus to fight unitedly against tyrants who identified themselves of a particular religion.

10:24 Cycling cook or cooking cyclist 😂😂😂😂😂 damn @vimoh 😁🤮😁

People thinking Hinduism is about vedas and Gita are clueless, Hinduism is a umbrella religion it consists of various religions and sects present in the sub continent.

Reality of Hinduism is it can mean anything and nothing at the same time. Its the nir-gunn Brahman of belief system.

The most strong athestist was Lord Buddha. But over time his teaching were heavily corrupted by peoples mostly brahman.

Dhruv Rathee you have someone to speak with

Then I'm hindu 3d artist😂😂.

If someone has non-God Hindu beliefs then Hindu atheist makes sense.

I think the guest, talks more sense in this particular video than u vimoh!

I am a Muslim hindu ....😅 Make sense

The word hindu itself is a civilisational term it wasnt some modern inventions look how he says hindu is a later term to denote previous ancient indian practises but the hinduism has caste system fundamental even though those ancient practices werent hindu but then claims others are culturally appropriating this guy uses things and words just to parrot his prooganda crap

Dude, If you are saying Hindu has 2 schools of thought. Atheist and Theist . If they are sub categories, then why can't you refer to it as Hindu Atheist? And Hindu Theist? The reason might be because the morals or the culture you learn stems from Hindu philosophies but don't have belief in the god part of it. But if you say just theist, then it could be you get your morals from Christian or Muslim school of thought. If there was a practice and a school of thought that was practiced in India. Someone came in and then named it as Hinduism, why does it matter? So what were those practices before called? They were the sanatan dharma.

i am hindu atheist (charvaka) an no one has problem from being atheist. Hindu religion accept all the thoughts. its is not like islam that orders to kill apostates.

arent carvaka atheistic and come under hindu pantheon which includes nastik

Regarding Rajiv's point about non-democratic system, he meant that we don't ask a child what food he/she wants, otherwise child would choose junk food instead of a healthy home food which mother takes decision. Parents don't ask child whether the child should play now or do home work, etc. Without bias on any political parties, it seems worth to look at the idea that there one should use a hybrid working model for governance that makes decision for what needs to be asked to general public and what needs to be handled by expertise. Does that make sense?

Do you belive in God/Gods... if Yes than you are Theist... if Not than you are Atheist... everything else is irrelevant

You are Sanatani

You both need the truth of Islam. In ignorance you wouldn't want to avoid this because its a matter of great concern of next life.

The host is gud but he is biased and seems like having smtin against Hinduism. Hindu Atheist seems a valid term if Hinduism has a space for non believers.