How Hybrid Fish and Corals can Create New Species

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Hybrid reef fish are available infrequently in the hobby, and they always go for almost crazy amounts of money. It turns out, in the wild hybrids are far less common - occurring all over in corals and mostly at the boundary between two species' ranges in fish. The only catch is that probably most hybrids look exactly like a normal fish - you'd never know that it was a hybrid unless you look into it's genetics.
That's exactly what scientists are starting to do. As DNA and all its associated things becomes easier and cheaper to work with, more and more data is becoming available to study. The more we look, the more hybrids we are finding!
Under the right circumstances, hybrids can go on to create new species - and we think that this is likely part of why coral reefs have such incredible biodiversity today. Eons and eons of hybridization where the hybrid fish, coral, shark - even sea snake! - finds a niche and establishes as a new species. The Acroporidae family is packed with hybrid corals (and it contains the Acropora, Montipora, Anacropora, and all those genuses)! Similarly, the large marine angelfish - the Pomacanthidae - has nearly half its species involved in hybridization today.
Hobbs, JP.A., Richards, Z.T., Popovic, I. et al. Hybridisation and the evolution of coral reef biodiversity. Coral Reefs (2021).
doi.org/10.1007/s00338-021-02...
Molecular phylogenetics of the butterflyfishes (Chaetodontidae): Taxonomy and biogeography of a global coral reef fish family
November 2007, Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 45(1):50-68
doi.org/10.1016/j.ympev.2007....
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@ReefMan
@ReefMan 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry about the clipping audio in this video! I'm not sure what happened, hopefully it's not too annoying! 😀
@aarondus
@aarondus 2 жыл бұрын
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@maceysdaddy5150
@maceysdaddy5150 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting! I’m glad there are people that understand this science. I didn’t notice audio problems. Your tank looks like it has stabilized. Are you going to keep it FOWLR? I’m 65 and don’t see myself planting & trimming coral at 75 and will likely go FOWLR at some point. Keep up the great videos.
@ReefMan
@ReefMan 2 жыл бұрын
I’m going to start slowly adding frags. It’ll take a while, but I do want a reef again
@mrsupersym
@mrsupersym 2 жыл бұрын
Hi ReefMan. I'm very much interested in coral microbiomes and how the relationship with coral impacting the coral coloration. If you have in depth material on this matter it would be superb. Thank you in advance.
@ReefMan
@ReefMan 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t found much on microbiomes and color. Most of the research I’ve seen is stress related. I’ll try to see if there’s anything though! There’s a lot of research going on around probiotics right now.
@mrsupersym
@mrsupersym 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReefMan Will wait for your update in the future. Thanks dude.
@mitian
@mitian 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video thanks, will you eventually more corals in your tank? and kind of lights do you use?
@ReefMan
@ReefMan 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! I actually just glued down some frags yesterday. I also bought a couple nice chalice frags for the bottom that will be here soon. Slowly but surely! I use (and love) the ATI Straton fixtures - I have three over my tank.
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always! Do you still have your pair of Potter’s Angels? How many years have you had them and do they still spawn regularly? Did you know that sometimes a harem of Potter’s Angels in the wild will sometimes include one or two Fisher’s Angels? By far the rarest hybrid discovered to date that involves the Potter’s is the hybrid with the Flame Angel, which is very rare in the Hawaiian Islands and some are probably waifs from other places. Only 3 or 4 have been found to date. However, Brian Greene’s diving videos showed some Potter’s Angels in close proximity with the uber rare Centropyge Nahackyi. So who knows? Perhaps one of these days we’re going to see evidence of mixed species pairs / harems between C. Potteri and C. Nahackyi. Sometimes this hybridization leads to stunning results, with a notable example between the “Tigerpyge” which is a cross between the Lemonpeel and Eibli Angels in the regions where they overlap (the boundary between the Pacific and Indian Oceans). Wrasses are known to hybridize too, although wrasse hybrids aren’t as well understood as Angel and butterfly hybrids. A curious case for me is the case of the Shephard’s Angel which is pretty much endemic to Guam with a few in the Bonin Islands of southern Japan. I sometimes suspect they’re a hybrid between Flames and Rusty Angels that became its own species over a long period of time. However, I wouldn’t be surprised if one day they’re discovered to just be a hybrid population of Flames and Rusty Angels to begin with.
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 2 жыл бұрын
If you know John Coppolino (copps), he believes Centropyge Shepardi is its own species formed out of millenniums of hybridization between the Flame and Rusty Angels.
@ReefMan
@ReefMan 2 жыл бұрын
I still have my potteri pair, and they do still spawn in my tank. That’s really interesting! I hadn’t heard of them associating with other species, but it’s not that surprising. Thank you!!
@AbsoluteZero6714
@AbsoluteZero6714 2 жыл бұрын
@@ReefMan You’re welcome! I’m glad you found it interesting!
@damcmadlad2975
@damcmadlad2975 Жыл бұрын
So let me get this straight so long as a fish is in the same family as the other then it is possible for a hybrid to form yes I know I'm extremely slow
@ReefMan
@ReefMan Жыл бұрын
That’s a valid question! It’s not always the case that fish in the same genus can interbreed. Sometimes they can though, and certain genuses like the Pygmy angelfish are very capable of it.
@damcmadlad2975
@damcmadlad2975 Жыл бұрын
@@ReefMan I see thanks
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