How I helped discover the Andromeda Oxygen Arc

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How I helped discover the Andromeda Oxygen Arc

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Жыл бұрын

Hello everyone I hope you enjoyed this video, it has been an absolute honor to work on this project. This video is about the initial discovery process of the oxygen arc around the andromeda galaxy, a never before seen structure until now. Prints of this image are available here on my website: astrofalls.com/
Here you can find the other team members who worked on it (those who have social media):
Marcel Drechsler: www.astrobin.c...
Yann Sainty: www.astrobin.c...
Xavier Strottner: www.astrobin.c...
You can find more of my work here: / astrofalls
The equipment I used to detect this nebula can be found here: astrofalls.com...
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Thank you all for watching!
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@Strottner-Drechsler Жыл бұрын

Probably my comment will be completely disappeared here ;-) Bray, it was a great honor and pleasure to have had you on the team for this discovery. I hope we work together again soon! Thanks pal! 😁

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Not unless I pin it! 😂 Hopefully once the clouds part I’ll find the next one

@Thomasp671 Жыл бұрын

I also found and discovered, Pickett's Bell around Betelgeuse in 2015. Most everyone who had photographed this area had it in their photos but no one spotted the dark bell shaped ring around Betelgeuse until I shot it up close, spotted it, and called it out in my post. Then everyone started calling it, Pickett’s Bell after my last name. Everyone was stunned when they seen it for the first time even in their own images. :-) For thousands of years we think this dark bell shaped ring is mass being shed and ejected from the massive star as it begins it's death march towards a Supernova. Congratulations you guys for finding this very faint OIII nebula.. :-)

@TonyCecala Жыл бұрын

Congratulations!

@phnxvfx Жыл бұрын

That's crazy dude

@tww00 Жыл бұрын

and probably may will find it now in the archives, just nobody was aiming for it directly, and even those who saw it, didn't knew it's something new...

@iamiam5647 8 күн бұрын

Congratulations!

@flavio.540 Жыл бұрын

For decades we missed this piece of Andromeda. This really is the discover of the century, I've no words.

@eMBO_Gaming Жыл бұрын

Absolute cogratulations. The fact, that it was unnoticed so many years even through it's next to one of the most photographed objects is not only mindblowing, but also inspiring to research the sky for yourself. Imagine how many of such objects there must be in less popular regions of the sky.

@peterlaubscher3989 Жыл бұрын

Okay, I suspect that someone else has said this already, but talk about hiding in plain sight! This is astonishing. Congratulations. Amazing perseverance. Absolutely thrilled for you and your amazing team!

@stewartwilson7482 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations on the discovery, and thanks so so much for making this video. I've seen so much about the discovery in the astronomy press, but nothing in so much detail as your explanations. Really appreciate you taking the time to explain. Keep hunting!

@Ryan-ct1oc Жыл бұрын

this is incredible, WOW at a loss for words. Amazing discovery and work as always.

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ryan!

@tmostofi Жыл бұрын

That was AWESOME!!!! Congratulations to you and the entire team, a lot of hard work that truly paid off, what an inspiration!

@jjlodgephotography Жыл бұрын

Wow! Congratulations Bray and everyone else on the discovery. This year's APOTY winner for sure 👍 Great video also, very interesting.

@KJsCosmos Жыл бұрын

Incredible! Congrats on this massive discovery dude!!! This is huge! Just goes to show that everyone can help make discoveries in this field. So motivating! Congrats

@markoposavec9240 Жыл бұрын

Never thought such discoveries were possible with a wide field of view and amateur equipment. Ridiculously epic stuff!

@CuivTheLazyGeek Жыл бұрын

Well done! Amazing! My guess is that imaging it from Tokyo might be slightly difficult :p

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Ya never know that hyper star might get the job done if the filter is good!

@AstroCreation Жыл бұрын

Hi, Bray! Great story and discovery! It is really interesting that many astrophotographers capture Andromeda, and no one had realised there is a nebula until you did! I recently completed my 24 hours of exposure time on Andromeda Galaxy, and you inspired me to collect even more data on my future targets. Thank you for the video and clear skies!

@steevebody449 Жыл бұрын

Congratulation man! That would have been so exciting to be part of this project. Well done

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

It was special for sure!

@AlanHowellphotovideo Жыл бұрын

Simply fantasitc work Bray! I think many amateur astrophotographers can relate to dumping images they thought were ruined from gradients, now only to find out that if they had been shooting a wider field of view, they were actually capturing a small part of a nebulous region adjacent to their target. Your super wide field mosaic images give testament to this as well.

@thelostexplorer2964 9 ай бұрын

I just saw your winning image at the Astronomy Photographer of the Year exhibition at the National Maritime Museum in Greenwich. What a spectacular accomplishment for all involved. Congratulations!

@TheUrbanAstronomer Жыл бұрын

Such a phenomenal find! Congratulations to you and everyone involved!

@astrophotonics9470 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic find, hopefully you and this team will continue your survey. Grats on the APOD.

@karyleianawildernesscapes Жыл бұрын

Congrats to all involved! Such dedicated work! ...& now, I feel I'll be seeing this image replicated ALOT in the coming months/years lol!

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

With the bad weather and timing I feel like it’s gonna be next august before we see any more images, I’m excited to see some new ones thoufh

@geminijk Жыл бұрын

Congrats on a fascinating capture!

@atbsigma Жыл бұрын

09:30 Your concerns about who would get credit for discovery of this oxygen arc over Andromeda are similar to the credit for discovering Neptune. Those astrophotographers who imaged in OIII are going to go back and realize they had something there all along, and maybe kick themselves. The way I see it - anything that is in the night sky is only new to us as humans, not new to the universe. What you and your team are sharing about this arc benefits the entire astronomy community. I think we should go beyond the obvious 'award mindedness' of such a thing and see if this leads to time on larger observatories to try and discover things about this nebula, such as how far it really is from Andromeda (could it be a line of sight thing and not directly from the galaxy itself??). I applaud you and the team you were a part of for being willing to spend the time and hours to show that this arc was a real 'thing' and not just an artifact of OIII imaging on M31. Congratulations!!

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Yeah in a perfect world it would be nice to be more open about the process, but if I gotta do astrophotography to pay for rent and food you bet I’m gonna keep it on lockdown!

@atbsigma Жыл бұрын

@@astrofalls ya know what I completely understand that approach! I hope for you to make more discoveries with your techniques and connections with professionals in the field.

@starsips Жыл бұрын

Absolutely incredible! Well done!

@RobertoCighetti Жыл бұрын

Congrats Bray, you really should be proud of your wonderful job for taking part to this astonishing study

@GuidoGallenkamp Жыл бұрын

"You are too young to change the world as we see it!" "Hold my binos..."

@greenasgrass1 Жыл бұрын

Just wow! Absolutely incredible work Bray and pals. Just blown away man!

@Allan_Melon Жыл бұрын

Just staggering what someone can do from the comfort of there backyard, truly outstanding and inspring, this is why I love astronomy so much! Well done

@nickb7977 Жыл бұрын

That’s for sharing this story. Very inspirational! Bravo!

@withmuckguy3362 Жыл бұрын

I just saw your post of this on reddit in r/space and r/astrophotography. Amazing job spaceshuttleinmyanus!

@bymartinek Жыл бұрын

Fascinating jurney and amazing result!

@brianastrodoc2886 Жыл бұрын

Fascinating video and congrats on aiding in the discoveries. I would like to learn more about the Continuum Subtraction processing in PI. You think you can make a small video on that process? Clear Skies!

@markhelton8032 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations to you, and all involved! Here's to citizen scientists, and all the amateur astrophotographers out there helping to contribute to our understanding of our universe! You have inspired me, as an astrophotographer, to get back out there and find new things! Clear Skies, and thanks for a beautiful image, and a wonderful discovery!

@amaar1646 Жыл бұрын

This is literally the coolest thing ever!!! So surreal that is what literally right adjacent to one of the most photographed parts of the sky!

@Adrift555 Жыл бұрын

This is single handly my favourite DSO image so far. Amazing work!

@laurielou8870 Жыл бұрын

WOW, Surprise! You and the rest of the team over at Team StDr ROCK 🎸

@beatriceheinze2294 Жыл бұрын

Waw! Congratulations Bray and the others from the team! Awesome discovery.

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

@noddyonice Жыл бұрын

Stunning and incredible! Congratulations to all concerned on this discovery and superb image. If I ever switch to mono, this would be a great multi year project given the lack of clear nights here in the North East of England. 👍 Noddy

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

You could do it it one night if you got like ten telescopes!

@noddyonice Жыл бұрын

@@astrofalls ….be some rig that! 🤣

@ianlauerastro Жыл бұрын

So stoked for you bud, congrats to you and the team!

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Thanks Ian!

@blazingheavens5362 Жыл бұрын

The blue vs Oiii continuum process was pretty mind blowing to hear about, such a cool process. It's awesome thinking that this tedious and time consuming process that your team does can help discover tons of "hidden in plain sight" nebulae and how that will possibly impact our understanding of our galactic situation with Andromeda and the universe around us in general. Are you offering prints yet?

@DSOImager Жыл бұрын

Very cool! Grats to the team on an awesome discovery!

@davidleejenkins Жыл бұрын

Wow! Congratulations! I won’t look at Andromeda the same way again.

@andrewpye6371 Жыл бұрын

Such a mind-blowing discovery and an incredibly beautiful image to accompany it 🤩 Incredible work from the whole team, and a great video explaining the process clearly and concisely. Thanks so much for sharing this!

@mfourn97 Жыл бұрын

Incredible discovery. Congrats ! One questions: did you manage to evaluate, even approximately, the distance between Earth and the arc, so that the scenario in which the arc actually belongs to our Galaxy can be eliminated ? Thanks!

@explosive5098 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely stunning, I may try to challenge myself to get even just a hint of the nebula next time I go to a dark site

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

With fast enough optics it is doable in one night!

@ASTROindi Жыл бұрын

Awesome, new inspiration 👏🏻

@mohammadranjbaran1897 Жыл бұрын

Great Job Bray.

@jonnic2000 Жыл бұрын

Great video that's to the point with excellent processing advice and congrats on helping discover this. Looks like I'll be buying new filters now!

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Thanks so much! And go for the 3nm for this one

@pehz Жыл бұрын

congrats man that is really cool

@olaftopper4813 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations, this is truly amazing

@djameli379 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations 🥳, and I wish you more discoveries, and indeed your discovery is the source of the inspiration for all amateurs 👌

@astrofotoperu Жыл бұрын

Congrats for contributing on this discovery. What an incredible image! I've imaged M31 several times, but never seen this faint oxigen nebula. Do you think it might pop up with that amount of exposure time (got a RASA 8 which is very fast), but with a color camera?

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

If you used a dual band filter with a narrow Oiii bandpass you could pick it up with a color camera!

@astrofotoperu Жыл бұрын

@@astrofalls Thanks a lot! I have the IDAS NB1 filter, so I think it might work out! Thanks man! Love your work! All the best from Lima, Perú!

@TonyCecala Жыл бұрын

Congratulations! No doubt, your consulting business will be skyrocketing.

@matthiasdipiazza849 Жыл бұрын

This is crazy. Thank you for sharing it with us.

@DavesAstrophotography Жыл бұрын

Excellent Bray, well done, and great explanation!

@michaelwright248 Жыл бұрын

Congrats on the amazing work! Very inspiring!

@aw7425 Жыл бұрын

Congrats and clear skies, you gentlemen are an inspiration to us all.

@ydid687 Жыл бұрын

love youtube sometimes for its recommendations and good channels, nice vibes all around :)

@exif6839 Жыл бұрын

Good job! Congratulations to this awesome work!

@joeydsa Жыл бұрын

Congrats Bray on your Discovery!! 😎🥳🎆🎇

@Nokk_Proxisky Жыл бұрын

Amazing! Is there a chance you could share how you combine Oiii to RGB data in pixinsight? Is it similar to combining Ha?

@spacetechtips Жыл бұрын

Great work, what a dream!

@puneetmaheshwari Жыл бұрын

this video is going to blow up mark my words

@EvanBrand Жыл бұрын

That's incredible dude, hell yes!

@Kbla63 Жыл бұрын

Kudos to your both. It needs a name and I think it would be a total credit to you both to name it after you both.

@mediocrefunkybeat Жыл бұрын

Thank you for posting this. It's a brilliant discovery.

@sriramsankar Жыл бұрын

Cool image. Just wondering how you ruled out foreground contamination by Milky way and HVCs.

@southbronxny5727 Жыл бұрын

I always guessed there was always more gases with extra exposure time. Excellent work.

@MT-ur5dp Жыл бұрын

Amram et al. published a paper in March, showing that this arc is likely part of a Supernova Remnant 700 parsec distant. Also nice.

@Perseusdream Жыл бұрын

Relly nice and hard work! Congratulations!

@caroliensche13 Жыл бұрын

I hope, this oxygen is indeed located next to Andromeda Galaxy. I would be happy for you guys. But to be honest, i believe it belongs to our galaxy, maybe even to our nearer neighbourhood.

@CuriousRiz Жыл бұрын

Congratulations! What an amazing Discovery to be a part of.

@alexalmeida8627 Жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing! Congratulations!!!!

@panda_is_hangry0.0 Жыл бұрын

congrats team👏👏👏👏😍

@runematthijssens2304 Жыл бұрын

Could you maybe do a tutorial on how you deal with the continuum image?

@grahamconatyastro Жыл бұрын

Absolutely incredible work!

@TruptiVijayPatil Жыл бұрын

Very interesting and very informative 👍🏻

@ShortWorld007 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations to the whole team 🤩

@JW-uj3we Жыл бұрын

Have they pointed the Hubble at it yet? Let's hope so, nice vid, keep up the great work!

@renedef1 Жыл бұрын

Congratulations. Great work!

@wardog3449 Жыл бұрын

Buying this set up

@keithhanssen7413 Жыл бұрын

My first impression was the two blue nebulae are related, so the large one outside was caused by the smaller one inside the spiral arm.

@TyroTim2000 Жыл бұрын

Awesome. Great work

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Thanks Tim!

@tww00 Жыл бұрын

I was experimenting on Andromeda to see if my 3nm OIII filters are actually working on the MN190 some years ago... I just didn't know it's something new, so I'd rather focused on Andromeda itself, since it was more interesting less noisy :o) (also at F5.6 it was just "something noisy", but now I know how to capture it in it's full beauty)

@glennpoplin977 Жыл бұрын

Incredible discovery, congratulations.

@nickambrose8606 Жыл бұрын

Fantastic work !

@3DAstroTC Жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff Bray!!

@pickleroo253 Жыл бұрын

Just stunning. Could someone please tell me if gas being ionized by ultraviolet radiation is the same same thing as gas being heated because i keep seeing the two explanations used by different people for the same objects.

@nadirteymurov1 Жыл бұрын

Bray, your autofocus. Again ! Congrats on the discovery !

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

I know I know

@TheWonkyAstronomer Жыл бұрын

Great work. Congratulations!

@michaellewis5921 Жыл бұрын

Truly impressive work, loved the entire video. I like going deep on deep sky objects, and do have a 3nm OIII filter, but as you say, would not have thought to point it at a galaxy like M31. Very cool. I am interested in how the continuum subtraction in the Blue band is done (and then also potentially in other narrowband emission data sets as well). Is this some sort of a PixInsight Pixel Math operation on processed OIII and Blue filtered data stacks, or is it done in preprocessing, or ??? Can you share some more details on how that works, or share a reference to go look at for more detail on how that part of the processing was accomplished?

@notnize9695 Жыл бұрын

This is incredible! Thats truely a really big discovery. How much exposure would be needed for the nebula in the galaxy itself?

@KopLamp Жыл бұрын

Incredible. I've never shot M31 seriously... yet ;-)

@Quwucuqin Жыл бұрын

It's wonderful amazing work

@Microtonal_Cats Жыл бұрын

Amazing stuff. Oh, you said after the discovery but before the announcement you said you'd seen some other photos that showed it faintly (but most likely the photographers didn't notice it). Do you have an example or two? I looked on Astrobin searching "M31" and OIII, but didn't find any. Thanks!

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

Alex hawkinson or @gazingoutwards on instagram!

@a22226565 Жыл бұрын

Good Job !

@user-xm2oj6nr2d Жыл бұрын

Потрясно! Потрясающе, что в наше время, когда наука очень дорогая, любители могут делать большие открытия со своими скромными возможностями. Прошлое, такое масштабное, открытие, насколько я помню - это межзвёздная комета Борисова. Поправьте, если я не прав.

@jerrypeal653 Жыл бұрын

Good job .

@user-hj1il9vh6y Жыл бұрын

I wanna have a go. I use a rasa 8 so I might just use my baader f2 filters and absolutely blast andromeda till I see this as this is just so awesome

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

RASA 8 would be perfect! especially if youve got the proper narrowband filters for it

@user-hj1il9vh6y Жыл бұрын

@@astrofalls you reckon if I image straight for like 4 weeks I’m in bortle 3 skies with good swing conditions I’ll get close to what you guys collected?

@astrofalls Жыл бұрын

@@user-hj1il9vh6y you could get close or better in probably 40-50 hours of exposure