The Spiffing Brit must be getting nervous

Strat just made the British East India company in the game.

You think people would just do that? Manipulate the market and pricing for personal gain and not to fulfill the needs of the community?

"They get a text message" made me laugh. 🤣

Dev: Puts market fluctuation to have a temporary fix to trading, but unintentionally made it more OP lmao

To make the game more realistic, when suppliers block each other at a trading point, they should start calling each other names and fighting.

“They get a Text Message” 😅 In game: “Hilbert, Screwed en route we were! The ol’ Next Door is in uproar! Dem apples only worth 5 pence this month. Turn this cart around!!”

The Baron hates this one simple trick.

Main issue is the tariff perk. 100% reduction makes this strategy broken. If the reduction was only 75%, this issue would be largely resolved while maintaining a strong perk

Thank you so much for your guides 🥃😎👍

I'm just curious how you did this starting from 100 regional wealth? This video seems to show after you've made several successful trades and also after you've unlocked at least one perk as all your trade routes are only 25 gold.

How do you get up to that point though? What do you start out with to import/export with only 50g to start with?

Man… respect, mad respect. I miss only one achievement on steam, the merc one, but your skill is nothing but inspiring.

Great Video! any plans on making a video on your challenge run with not trade (max diff for everything bandits and AI)? (the one you talked about in the farming guide)

Interesting technique! For me, the best way to do for me at least, is focus on wood/iron stuff, upgrade the house to levels 2, convert them to do armour/shield stuff and do some switcheroo like you did. I called it Military Industrial Complex approach. Makes, literally, tons of wealth every single month!

I love this so much. I watched the whole 2+ hour video and learned a crap ton. Using the camp money to buy mercs vs using your citizens is glorious. I have so much less stress. lol Not making a ton on the town I used, it was already 8 plots deep but, I tried it and I could sustain mercs and a 900 dollar monthly regional wealth. Into year 4 and AI has only claimed 1 additional territory but I am DEFINITELY not playing Ultimate mode. :D I had used too much clay before I saw your video to properly saturate however I'm using other items in a similar way. Again thanks and cheers.

I was waiting for this video to come out. Everyone been complaining how hard it is but i never see anyone mention how key trading post is early game. You know those planks you need to build the church in the early game? Now you can leave the guy on it if you rush even just one burgage 2 to make warbows (5g) or large shields (6?7?g). Now you can afford all the chicken coops and vegetable farms you want in the early game.

It's not that the UI is slow to update, it's when you have a good set to Import or Export, you only see that price. You only see both simultaneously on full trade or no trade. At least I suspect that's the issue. Your guides are super helpful.

Man you are a god for doing this challenge no one stopping you

Helpful video, thanks!

I figured this out like 2 hours ago too, funny that you post this right now

Dude is price fixing medieval market lmao

great content Strat, I love it

Dude keep up the Good Work

Two things: 1) I think that I read somewhere that the character that you pick, when you create a new game, may have an influence of what you can and can't do. 2) For the character that I've chosen (which is what I started the game with, so on the screen where you create a new game, and you pick your character and coat of arms, etc., it's the top row, leftmost character. With that character, this method does NOT work as the prices (as of version 0.7.960) does NOT fluctuate as a function of quantity. Just tested this out. It does NOT work as shown in the video.

Did they patch this? I bought 999 plate armor and the price never went back up. It's stuck at 3 coin each and I am stuck with 999 plate armor.

I think the only way to balance is having the off-map traders have a resource pool of gold from which they can trade, so for example, each month lets say, the trader has 800G for trading, if he exhausts that, he won't trade

Top tier content. Keep it up!

Had this exact same thought but didnt have enough wealth to try it lol this is so broken, i'd be surprised if this doesnt get fixed next patch 😂

Thank you for finding the most amazing bug of the middle ages🙏

"They get a txt message" had me rolling! 😂

Bravo! You exactly respect the spirit of the game.

I think the game told me that a dedicated merchant comes once a month. So I figured the road length wont matter much. You proved here, that its not the case, thx!

Something is very wrong with the market at max speed. I had enough wealth so I bought 150 plate in hopes of driving the price up, to sell later. Not only did the price go DOWN, I barely lost any money and I had 150 plate in my inventory. Finally, a bug that actually helps, lol. I couldn't make it happen again exactly on my other settlement, but very odd thing.

Pin this please: none of this works anymore since the patch and exploit fix. 1) traders now come from random map side, trader location now should be best case in the middle of the map 2) import prices now always will be higher than export (debuff of improvement point) 3) the prices will not change that drastically so non if this is achievable anymore.

Had a weird occurrence in my game where importing mail armor was going for 1 coin each. I bought 999 of them lol. No clue why that happened, bc I wasn’t trading mail or producing it….

Do you have a full stream of this? Or longer form content?

This is great. Just got done spending a rainy morning playing around with exploiting the game, myself.

You Sir, are a scoundrel for abusing the poor merchants like that! I never seem to be able to sell anything at all when not trying to abuse the market like this. Whether i sell boots, weapons, shields or veggies the market pretty much instantly goes to overflooded and no one buys my stuff. Really frustrating.

This is an amazing find. But its nice more for showing the easy exploit than as a game advice. We noticed eggs were OP from start but trade is so broken lol

You’ve literally come out with at least 5 videos since the last time I got to play this game 😂

I feel like I am missing something. I am having a hard time getting goods from the storehouse to the trading post when they get sucked from the trading post to the storehouse. What moves the goods in that instance?

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Some regions have 2 of the Blue spawning points where traders spawn. Those are valuable because you with 2 trade posts either double the profit or use the other trading post for your food and other import / export needs, while reducing the traffic jams.

I'm not sure. Methinks I smell the stench of skulduggery, or other vein of slitheryness. What say you, young squire?

I have a question pleaseeeee! So im new with the perks and this trading. So Im sure this will work with that perk for trade. If u spend 2 points. But in my current game, i spent 1 point on getting meat from my hunter thing. I mean is my game screwed? How many points do we get for our tech tree ? I have a feeling i wouldnt be able to complete this tech tree for trade since i misused my 1st point. Do i need to restart to a new game coz of this?

Hey strat, I remember you mentioning that you use a database to keep track of ideas. What database do you like to use? You mentioned that it has a little bit of a learning curve as well if I am recalling that correctly

"How I Made $42,000 Per Month With Only 5 Families In 1747" would be a lot darker title

Damn Wall Street Bets is playing Manor Lords now.

So the import price always starts higher than the export price (usually double), and what you're doing is buying a ton to crash the import price so therefore you have all the goods and that raises the export price?

I met a bug, meaby you know how to solve it: I buy barley to make malt->ale, and provided a storehouse specifically for barley and malt, but workers just waiting there, while barley is waiting them in the trading house. Malthouse workers are also waiting. Reloading the save didnt help. Working area is not limited in those buildings. Other goods are transported as they shoud.

Would it be necessary at any point to build a second trading post? Or is one per region all you need?

Ah yes ye old buy low, sell high

How are there so many traveling merchants visiting though? I only get like 2 of those guys with carts a month max....

Spiffing Brit is taking notes

You said that it’s optimal to open 6-8 trade routes per region. I’ve already unlocked trading routes for all types of resources in my region and i have a traffic jam. Is there any way to stop some trading routes?

Hey Strat, with the new beta patch, is there a different optimal strategy now that the dev has changed the way traders spawn?

This trading method worked for a while, but then inexplicably stopped. Now I've got 600+ warbows, and they're not going anywhere, despite being set to export. I've tried switching to import more, no trade, etc. I'm successfully trading other items. Is there some kind of max cap?

Hey strat..... on my first playthrough and have just claimed my third region however, unlike the first two I did not get an option to set up a new camp with a choice of monies and supplies. I definately own the region but all the values are at zero. Is this what happens or is there something I need to do or is it just a bug? Any steer here would be super useful. Cheers 🤔

indeed, truly a true merchant

How do you start this? Ive never been able to get enough money to buy enough of a good to flip it

Bro is gonna make another 2008 crisis

Does this work for export too or do you need people working in the trading post for that? Whats the point in having an option for workers?

The stats on any UI window remain static until it is reset, usually I just close & re-open.

i imported 1000 swords for low price and now my prices not changing for 3 years

Seems that updating prices live based on the volume you order should prevent the exploit. That’s how real life markets solve it. Unless it’s a computing limitation, updating prices once per month doesn’t do anything except giving the player something to exploit. They could also add external market shocks so it’s harder to predict the price changes. Maybe a simulated off-map village forgets to put their cobbler on pause and crashes the global shoe market right at the moment you thought you had cornered it! And they could fix the need to put markets at the edge of the map by just giving merchants a larger carrying capacity or allowing more of them. I didn’t realize there was a cap on the number of wagons that can be in the map. Explains why I have 2,000 shoes in a warehouse next to my export building!

You need a lot of money to start with? to start on one trade route to buy all goods, how can you do that or what amount you need to start?

I just tried this trade post at the end of the map. Dumped x100 Rooftiles into market until it became saturated but instead of then buying for 1g per piece the market wanted 11g even though it was inflated. I then changed to import and saw that it still wanted x4g more even while inflated which made no sense to me. I dumped one month and tried to buy the next but would make a loss? Can you tell me what im doing wrong or do a quick step 1 2 3 because im thoroughly confused! :)

i did try it once placing the trading post near the edge or near the tradepoint but the carts usually gets stuck/jam near the door of the trading post. medieval traffic jam! So i moved the trading post (still near the tradepoint) then created a new road to the trading post, design the road so the carts will not get stuck when they enter/exit the trading post.

This is awesome but how do you get setup to this point haha

It seems like the upcoming update will 'tone down' the volatility of trading, meaning you will be able to trade a higher quantity before the prices alter. That will make this scheme harder to do, but by no means impossible. Greg didn't offer the best fix to this in his latest poll; the best fix is to have static unmoving sale prices and fluctuating buy prices. This would remove the pendulum of trade which is where it can be abused.

Manor Lords is a perfectly balanced game with no exploits whatsoever.

if you start from scratch with the 5 fmailies what do you sell in bulk in the first place to be able to start the cycle?

This is like the US economy. Someone works producing the goods from 9-5 and some “invest” and live fabulously without breaking a sweat.

After a while of doing this, I'm at 730 mail armors. Now the thing is that I try to sell these now. But every time it sells 50 pieces, Another cart buys 50 pieces, while it's on ''Export'' with a desired surplus of ''50''

Made a reddit post about "ManorLords Consumption & Production, Housing & Supply", where I've summarized numbers and mechanics about the above-mentioned topic, that I have looked for, struggled with, or had to test in a straightforward and clear way. Will appreciate feedback from more experienced players.

You mad lad! The joys of exploits! >:D

Can you put multiple trade posts on the kings road to prevent traffic jams?

I think I imported too much plate and now I'm stuck at 999 with the price always being at 3 gold. I've waited a full year and the price hasn't changed. Do I have to sell off a lot of it?

I think I broke my trader.. Been stuck on 1 coin for the clay tiles for months now. I’ve done the manual switch to refresh it each month and it stays at 1. I even just switched it to export for a month to see what would happen and it would take some tiles and not pay out

Saw that the dev was looking for a way to stop/punish this. Interested to see what the fix will be :)

Is this still viable with the new changes to the trading and prices of the routes?

so what's the point in assigning a family to a trade post if they can import export automatically?

Yes, I know exactly how I do it now, but the update rates for the market prices are really bad. You always have to save the game and reload it or go to the next month or sometimes it's random. The trick with selecting import/export doesn't work for me.

Can you build multiple trading posts to avoid the traffic jam? Would the visiting carts split between them?

For some reason when I place a 250 order to BUY, the following month "market is oversuplied"

This expoit can be extended to the barter also?! Trade goods between your own cities at the best rate?!😅

Manor Lords is a perfectly balanced Game.

Seems like a simple fix for the dev. He just has to hide the trading post or mix them up so you don't know where the goods go or come from.

Pretty sure Greg said he is going to be stopping this exploit.

Couldn't we just make another trade post to avoid traffic jam? Or is it only limited by 1 per region?

I bet Spiffing Brit is taking notes so he can exploit it with his "British tea"😅exports

Did you also encounter the bug where prices dropped when you imported a lot of goods? I imported 999 armor in one month and now the prices lowered to 3 instead of rising to 48

classic :D Already people manipulating the market lmao

Nice tutorial

Does this still work with the new patch? Lots of patch notes counter these techniques. Lmk

do you need the "better Deals" perk under development for this to work?

So, in the very beginning, you need something to sell, right? It takes money to make money, as they say. So how do you get an initial stash of money started?

I dont need a degree in economics. I play manor lords 👍

I'm sure they used the blackberries to send each other text messages back then.