I see the market got you sufficiently annoyed to finally figure it out. Nice.

How to get 100% market coverage: Build a medieval Amazon store. 😂

Wish we could control which buildings/families are allowed to own stalls, I don't want my hunter to own a stall. The meat needs to go to my granary and then the market. Goes for a lot of production cycles

A good point you made in another video applies here too - ensure that the market supply storage only keeps the stuff that is sold on the market. To avoid your warehouse workers going everywhere and hauling all other stuff - which in turn hurts the market supply. Components, construction stuff etc should have its own storehouse! Similar with granaries - making sure that market granary only has final products, instead of workers running aaaaall the way to the farms to pick up wheat for god knows what reason.

Thanks for your content. Love how you actually test things and not just guess. Would love to see two things tested: 1. What is the maximum size of veggie garden and orchard. At some point it must get too big for the family to be able to harvest it. What is the optimum here? 2. Fertilization... How well does it work, how many sheep do you need, how can you get the sheep to spread to all the fields?... Also, I encountered a bug when building the fences, where workers deliver a plank, but when a worker +ox delivers a plank, it takes the planks away. Sometimes this prevents the fence to be built at all and keeps going forever.

this is the only channel so far that ACTUALLY tests stuff and tells precise things, so far i was only finding people guessing or just repeating what others were talking about. Keep up the nice work! thanks

I’ve been spreading my stalls out and rebuilding them, as I thought they had an area of influence! Good to finally realise I was doing it all wrong. I hope that the game gets better with explaining such information as I feel I need to start again (again) as I kept loosing lots of resources on the floor after you demolish a stall. 😢 Thanks.

Very useful information to have. It's refreshing to actually get information from someone who's taken the time to understand the system. It gets frustrating watching people who seem to make no effort to learn the systems of the game and then fail to understand why they're having problems, assuming that the game is bugged or flawed because they can't master the game blindfolded. Or worse, complain that the game isn't optimizing itself to their desires, like the game should, for some reason, do all the work for the player. I think the biggest takeaway here for me is to work on having your storage workers run the stalls instead of the goods producers. Most videos I've seen treat the storehouse and granary like an afterthought, something you avoid putting families into because it doesn't produce anything. Staffing them makes your market far more efficient, which makes providing goods more efficient and your laborers more efficient because it allows your entire industry to largely focus on their specialty, minimizing overall transportation downtime.

I was only able to get on the game for about 5 hours since I had a busy family weekend so far, as soon as I got to 30 pop I was having issues with the marketplace and was itching to ask/do some research tonight. As soon as I load up KZfaq I see your vid as recommended. Gotta love the algorithm. As many have said before, I really appreciate you taking your time and putting mad work in to your vids and researching everything. I'm definitely going to show some love on your patreon memberships and sub to your other channels to show some appreciation for your commitment to all of your guides.

One other thing to note, if you are importing food, make sure your trading post is also right next to marketplace and granary. You’ll have hundreds of food but they won’t be able to stock it because it’s stuck far away in the trading post.

Amazing guide! I was stuck on this exact problem since games released, trying many different setups and ultimately leading to frustration. This was a quick and clear explanation. You just earned yourself another sub!

Thanks for figuring it out and sharing. It's way clearer to me now. I initially had multiple market locations around town and now I understand why it wasn't working well.

Favorite YT'er, does everything spot on and never fakes interest in any game to get a couple of views or likes

Seems like such a silly system, explains why no matter what even when the market has plenty of different food I still get homes saying there is none. I also noticed that some roads are bugged, they will still have buildings saying "connected to road network" but stuff won't get delivered, people won't find a path to market even when there is one. Going over the same roads twice a few times with new roads seem to fix it for me.

Thank you! lol this makes so much sense for the issue i'm having. It's insane how freaking simple this is but i couldn't figure it out.

Thank you so much. I just started the game and was wondering what was going on. Enjoying this very much.

Finally some good and working advice, all I managed to find was to build markets around town but still had issues, building them like this is supplying everyone very well

Great video. Im learning so much from your channel. Greatly appreciated

I have struggles playing this games manorlord, bannerlord etc; yet i see hope watching a content lord creator guide me. i've never seen a content creator soo much love for medieval dream game that analysis the game mechanics for us to rule, im looking forward to watching more of you're guides sometime in future dream medieval games. I will always watch you're guides like you'r a Curia regis.

Thank you for your informative content about manor lords! I would love to see more crusader kings 3 content from your channel.

Best Manor Lord content out there. Keep it up

Thanks for the easy to understand explanation of how the market ties in to the granary and storehouse.

Really good video. Thanks for that. Great explanation and tips.

This is exactly what I needed. Well done.

Strat you are doing great job. I watch your videos since few years. I am now on manor lords group on Facebook. A bunch of people are asking for tips. Every time I give link them to your channel 🥰

as always: concise and helpful. thanks

Great guide, explained it perfectly, and went directly to the point.

Incredible video. Every player who picks up Manor Lords should watch this. I have 70+ hours in the game and I just learned a ton.

Thanks for this! I think I built too many houses without understanding that each house needs fuel and not only construction. Great stuff

You’re a weapon! Keep up the awesome work mate 🇳🇿

I find demolishing empty marketplace stalls dramatically helps. The problem I noticed is that I'd have a vast surplus of materials, like say firewood, but not all plots would be supplied. This is because I frequently toggle families onto and off of gathering buildings as those materials are needed. Each time they're added to a building a new stall will be set up and linked to the gathering building. Then when the family is rotated off the building, the stall will remain linked to the gathering building which has no inventory to pull from. My marketplace would fill up with empty stalls over time. There's an 'abandoned stall' mechanism in the game but it doesn't correct for this issue. After going through and demolishing all stalls with empty or single material of supplies, my logistics workers were able to establish stalls linked to the stockhouse/granary inventories and keep inventories maintained. It also helped with overall town efficiency because unassigned families weren't wasting time often walking back to the marketplace to construct useless stalls while building projects would idle.

woppaaaaaaaaa and after seeing how many people asking you this within like the first 30 min of the stream yesterday i kinda expected you would make a seperate vid

I think they should just make the families shop at the market and pickup what they need themselves, this could also add some cool dynamic demand for food.

Came to your channel through Reggie. Stayed for your tutorials!

I'm at almost 300 pop right now, and markets have been my main headache! I was putting them down all over town with none of them close to any storage or granary. Thanks for saving me from further headache!

A well put together explanation! On the other hand "you dont like distance managing in city builders, play anno games" got it :)) Jokes aside i hope this game turns out well in the end

Fantastic guide, thank you! Have you considered doing a video on optimal town layout, and how you'd stage its development? I followed this guide re. marketplaces being right next to warehouses and granaries, but made the mistake of putting my trading post on another side of the granaries and warehouses not realising it couldn't be relocated (as industry buildings can be). I also had a little trouble with placing industries close enough to the warehouses as I expanded the number of buildings of a given type, and when expanding to additional industries due to oversaturation of the good I was exporting.

Thank you!! Very helpful.... here I thought making the market close to the homes was going to help, but I was still having problems!

Keep going with the guides they are super good and easy to acctually understand and thats very rare these days.

Thank you for this helpful information! I was having a lot of trouble with unsupplied buildings and could not figure out on my own what was going wrong.

Yeah ive this issue now in my game, thats what happens when you follow his grandma guide when he tells you to place them next to the berries and hunting. That being said you do, do a good job and very informative guides 👏

Brilliant! Thank you.

Great as always!

I just try to build based on historical townplans, from one of the advisors of the game, and it worked out quite well so far. I build a german "egg village" or "Rundling" with an oval space in the middle and all houses plottet around it, short ways really help to spread good evenly around.

Yep.... my town is laid out really ineffecient and stupid. This vid was really helpful. Thanks a lot man👍👍

Good tips. The only downside to think of would be a lightning strike or other fire.. I just lost a storehouse that was completely full that way

Absolute legend, thank you.

Thanks ❤ well explained

Thanks for the video - have you found any way to force a stall of a particular type? In my most recent playthrough I bricked out because all 3 families I could assign to my storehouse insisted on making firewood stalls, so I had no way of distributing clothes. Even when I demolished them, they just rebuilt more firewood stalls, whilst all my plots went to 0 clothing provision.

The logistics in this game are insane. I really like Frostpunk and now I love this game even more because there is no such problem)

Hi Strat, so glad you picked this game up and gave it the Bannerlords analytics treatment... I would love if you reviewed all the soldiers and broke down strengths and weaknesses. Not reached large battles yet and your views would be greatly appreciated. 🍻

Thanks, really useful info. What's your opinion on duplexes? Are they worth it in the long run?

And that's how malls / Wallmarts / IKEA etc. all started ;) Some medieval manor lord got annoyed by inefficiency, calculated things and came up with the above setup. No more cosy sleepy villages with curved roads. Only right angles, square blocks, straight streets. 🙃😂

Ok. Actually helpfull. My most struggle with a firewood.

Very good information, thanks. I'm nearing 100 families, and was very confused about how markets worked, and having trouble getting proper coverage.

this was Massive info , Ty.

Thanks for the analysis. Makes sense. Now, my personal battle will be to find the balance between aesthetics and efficiency.

OMG thank you! As much as I love this game the help section could use a little love lol

Hey man, nice video. Question: how do I control the stall-owning families? If i see someone open a stall, it's not clear to me how to change what family goes where.

I may have figured out the best town layout... start with the well... put road around it... choose two opposite corners and draw straight roads off quite a way... then put a market each side of the well roads... I go 2 lock points past the junctions... making it kind of hexagonal... usually I get 14 stalls per side... then put roads around the markets joining to the main well road... on the middle side, so now 90 degrees from the well road, run two more roads out a ways from the middle of the markets... then put single home plots with workshop extensions around the markets... I go with 5 per quadrant... I turn the market road plots into 2 artisans and the well road plots into 2 chicken coops and 1 goat shed... ending with 8 workshops, 8 coops, and 4 sheds... then on the market roads past the plots on each side I put a warehouse and granary... finally off the well road I add the veggie patches in extra large double plots that wrap up behind the single plots meeting with the storages... I usually make 2 veg and 2 orchards... then put resource collection/industry where needed... typically I put most industry on the kings road side and most res/farm on the other side... stick the tavern on one end of the well road and the church on the other, and you're good to go...

There is always a flaw in city building games for me, that comes down to logistics in most cases, that makes me want to stop playing them. While your explanation helped me with this game, this market simulation seems unnecessarily fiddly and restrained.

Even with this video I still could not get 100%. So I made some tests and think I got the reason. I think you explained this now that I think about it but I'll explain here. Remember that you may need multiple barracks of each type in the market. As each stall gets only 50 if you have 50 families and want to fullfill 2 kinds of food, you will need space for 100 itens or 2 stalls only for food. plus 2 barracks only for clothes if needed 2 types and 1 barracks only for fuel. But a point that gave me problems if you have works in the deposit and there you have fuel and clothes, the families working there not necessarly gonna sell fuel and clothes, they may sell more clothes than fuel for example. So in the next playthrough I will try to make separated deposits only for clothes and only for fuel to see if it works

Amazing. I finally understood why i always thought the whole system is bugged.

Thanks dude, this helped clarify how markets/item transports work! I was kinda confused after a few hours. If I had some small criticism it would be that your voice is a bit loud and boomy in this video in a way I haven't noticed in others. (I've been watching you since I found your Bannerlord videos a couple years ago!) If you have a compressor on maybe turn it down a bit, it can reduce listening fatigue :)

Excellent, thank you.

holy shit THANK YOU this has been so frustrating for me omg

Thanks for the video, I understand now that placing marketplace next to houses doesn't really makes sense even tho its quite intuitive lol.

straight to the point. thx alot.

I was splitting stalls up to try to “reach” the other houses. I guess my people were just having to travel too far. Awesome guide

Thanks for the great video, it is so useful to have this mechanic explained properly. How do you make storage workers run a stall?

Just to be clear, is it families that matter or plots? if I have a bunch of duplexes do I effectively cut my need in half if its plots?

Very helpful!

This will hopefully help me out, I'm stuck with a Tier 2 house complaining they can't get firewood when I have tons, but my stores are spread out and I'd tried making another market to make it easier? I might have to try Game 3, there's definitely plenty to learn about this game ^^;

Do the production numbers in your notion sheet still apply to the patch that is live?

This has been driving me mad. Thank you!

So useful video, thank you for that but I have a question or two. How can I have store and granary workers running stalls? Isn't it so random to control?

Stupid question, but do supplies (leather, linen, shoes etc) disappear over time? Or are they a static item that just exists forever?

I've just started this new map and built market slots next to granary(which is placed next to the hunters') but the stubborn workers keep on placing the food stall next to the firewood stall even though this one is on the other side of the city and the market place closest to them is empty... I deleted it , they built it in same place. Demolished it again after changing the family working in the granary, they proceed to build it in the furthest market again :( LE: in case this happens EVEN stalls can be moved to another location. Awesome!

I fixed my market coverage issues for food and other items by adding a ton more granary workers. For my big town I think I have some 30-40 or more granary workers and maybe 20 on storage.

Great video! Am I able to control what type of market stall is opened? For example, clothing VS firewood, VS food? Etc

Hello, I have a 2 part question: 1) you talk about not making too many stalls, but apart from the size of the market place, I cant really choose how many stalls are actually build, no? Like there is no UI (or that I could find) for this exact purpose (apart from building the policy firewood + bread stalls, but thats a separate issue...) 2) How do I force people into the stalls (as you have in your storehouse + granary)? Again, I dont see any direct UI element for it... 2,5) What is that good for exactly? Thank you in advance for the tips!

Should I delete stalls put up by the main sources of food materials like hunters and berryhuts, will that force it so that the stalls always work from the Granary instead?

Thanks…this was pissing me off to no end for the last hour or so.

Thank you very much!!

I did the storage thing you advised before... It didn't work, but some how placing a granary on the opposite side of the town did...

Use the "Limit Work Area" feature on your storehouse and granary on your market and inly store what your Stalls require.

Hey Strat, im having trouble keeping my market stocked with fuel even though my storehouse right next door has over 100 and i have 35 houses. I have 3 workers on my storehouse... any thoughts?

I'd love to see short video of the pro-s and con-s of the duplex burgage plots. When are they useful and when are they doing more damage than helping?

Duplex thing. Just to note early in the video you refer to plots or burgages on basis of supply, but then clarified later that storage cap in stalls is families not plots. Had to chk date on this video, the 3hr AMA was anti duplex, but that was April 26, 1 day before this. Now Im bk to dplx hsg again thx to thiis.

I'll try this approach for my 3rd retry since I didn't understand how the distribution of supplies work.

Thank you so much. I was struggling and trying to figure out why I had over 1k vegetables yet still had food issues. Thinking it was like banished and market had range, and apparently they dont. Already went from 70% food to 100%.

Hi. Is it good layout? Part of the mechanics which is confusing to me is that my initial understanding of storage workers was transporting goods by a cart using pull-mechanics from production sites, then I realized it's supply of market either as well or as their primary goal. Now I'm confused. If houses have significant production from garden, isn't it actually better to move granary and market close to houses? But in case of granary I'm not sure, one winter my houses had 360 apples, which was enough to support 300 people (100 families) for about 3 months, but whole village was getting only some eggs, vegetables and meat when I upgraded many buildings to L3. Another thing I do not understand is if oxen behave as storage workers with carts.

Heý Strat, Thanks for another great video. Just to clarify: I can allocate who works at the granary and storehouse by assigning via the home, but how do I ensure those workers are also working market stalls?

Great video bud. How do you have a person in the warehouse also running a stall?

they should allow to overcap the stalls a little bit, maybe like 1.5x times the supply, or just allow us to set the amount we want

If I have a firewood stall operator and I tell them to work at the storage depot right next to the stall what prevents the stall opperator from walking across the map to collect more fire wood? I am having issues with my stalls actually getting full. All the workers are assigned to the graneries and storage sheds right next to the market. The buildings are full with years of supply but I cant get it to the stalls efficiently.

I have this weird bottlenecc which made the unassigned families took their dang sweet ahh time to get the ox(es) to start dragging timber for construction. I've plenty of timbers lying around and the other materials for the construction is already filled in.This happens with any type of building.

I was playing through a hardest difficulty challenge (maxed all the sliders). I am having issues dealing with AI abandoning market stalls early game (due to my juggling families around a few necessary jobs) and no one reopening any stalls in time before approval irreversibly tanks (its like a six month window) i have the right jobs assigned, i build extra market spaces in desperation, i restart the game. No dice. Have you noticed any ways to force/encourage a stall to open or any trends with the AI? Does a family with only two people open stall less frequently than a full family? Does the approval affect market opening rates? None of my testing has been especially enlightening so far.

Would love to hear your ideal starting region. Any specific region you like? specific rich deposits to start with? Great vids on a great game, looking forward to so much more from this dev :)

Hei, I had a set up close to yours with one large storehouse and one granary, but I still found myself with low food and firewood. Somebody on KZfaq recommended two different locations with market and storehouse/granary. I'm trying that solution right now to see if it works. Most of my supplies are near the storing place