How I Optimised Ableton Live 12's Browser for My Workflow

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In this tutorial, I'll show you how I created a browser setup in Ableton Live 12 that suits my workflow. Along the way, I show you all the features and lots of tips and tricks, including some undocumented ones, so you can do the same.
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00:00 Intro
00:31 Mouse Search
02:12 Keyboard Search
03:15 Criticism
04:29 What I Want/Need
06:14 Options for Left Pane
08:15 Saved Searches
10:16 Show/Hide Filters
11:56 Tag System Tips
13:26 My Own Tag System
16:36 Add Tag Groups, Tags & Subtags
17:23 Add to Ableton's Tags
18:23 Keeping Tags Synced Between 2 Computers
20:53 Outro

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@bitzfork Ай бұрын

Thanks for the video, Madeleine! But it's still very hard to love the updated browser. I tried different things, tried saving searches, creating sub-categories, mark my own presets with some special tag but nah, it's all starts to be a mess very fast... So what I decided to do is just create my own structure with folders and saved presets in my User Library (I remember Tom ELPHNT did something like this too). This way I can put the whole folder or even few folders into my Collection or link it to the places and have some structure.

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

I don't love it out of the box either and making it work for me takes quite a lot of time. Luckily there are several ways we can create our own browser structure. For me, one of the key things is to hide things I don't like at all to reduce the choices I get, plus creating favourites (not sure if in collections or as tags).

@corelli58 Ай бұрын

Thanks for making this video Madeleine - very helpful!

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

You're so welcome! 😀

@kristofwynants Ай бұрын

Love the sub tag trick. Learned something new today!

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

I'm happy to hear it. 🙂

@DaveTherrien Ай бұрын

Hey Madeleine - good to see you found a way to make Live12's Browser work for you!

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

Thank you so much for your inspiration and time. 🙏 Still lots to do until it's finished, but it's slowly getting there. Did you make any further changes or did you stick with yours?

@davet8867 Ай бұрын

Great clips. Thanks Madeleine!

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@DennisShinkevich Ай бұрын

Was für ein cooles Video! Besten Dank!

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

Gern geschehen. 🙂

@DennisShinkevich Ай бұрын

@@sonicbloomtuts Dürfen wir hier auch auf Deutsch ein paar Fragen stellen?

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

@@DennisShinkevich Ja, klar. Ich hab früher auch die Videos auf Deutsch und Englisch gemacht, aber das macht echt viel zu viel Arbeit für eine Person.

@scottymac3634 Ай бұрын

I've never used tags in any app I’ve worked with. Polarity Music has a good video about why. The short of it is that most sounds are so context dependent that if you tagged them based on how they were used in that specific project, that specificity wouldn’t translate to another use case. Tagging is one more thing that takes time away from making music imho. Proceed with caution.

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

I agree that tagging takes time away from music making, but with the new browser in Live 12, I only have chaos and need a way to make it work for me. Whenever I've tried tags, I ended up abandoning them if I had other way to organise data. My own tagging system doesn't use subjective tags that are context dependent. If I'm adding a tag "Glass", then there's only actual glass instruments in it. Or if some clip or sample is tagged with "Arp", it's arpeggiated.

@danmoore9682 Ай бұрын

Thanks I appreciate the extra information. I'm baffled why they didn't go with a machine learning analysis plus tagging like Sononym. I'm thinking all this hard work will be redundant soon.. Anyone else have similar thoughts?

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

Let's hope so, but it's been way over three months since the release and I need to be able to find stuff now and not later. I really don't know why machine learning wasn't included. That's what I expected when I heard of the browser changes.

@danmoore9682 Ай бұрын

@@sonicbloomtuts yeah, maybe they tried it and killed cpu.. who knows.

@SCabriales 28 күн бұрын

I hate the tag system so much, i'm so used to use the arrow keys to navigate folders, using a trackpad Is so inconvenient that I cannot use the tag system.... ended up hiding everything except the "ALL'" section in library and use cmd+F to search for everything... if I forgot the name of something, well... guess it wasn't that important

@sonicbloomtuts 28 күн бұрын

I'm not a fan of tagging either, but it's what we've got now. I hope they might still consider bringing the device folders back. Searching the browser with the keyboard can also be used with tags and key words. Might be worth exploring.

@SCabriales 28 күн бұрын

@@sonicbloomtuts I did used the "#" method but it's so bad for my workflow, I know what I have and where it is, but now is just to much clicking for me, if I didn't like Roar as much as I do, i would've switch to Live 11 by now. As a beta tester, I just saw that we can use the folder system in the Plugins sections, let's hope Ableton is going to the direction I think and will let us have both systems and let us choose what we want to use. Thank you so much for the reply, have a great day!

@Simbosan Ай бұрын

I've gave up on creating subtags because I tried renaming a tag with a pipe in it, but Ableton won't let you do that so I thought it was impossible. Turns out you can create with pipe, but not rename! Apart from that I am sold on the tagging system. Solved a major organisation problem for me

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

You can rename them as well. In case, it doesn't work for you, try resetting the Library database. I had to do it on both my desktop and laptop after trying out different things. Some things in the browser were just not working as expected. I even had it flicker over and over for a while. The reset fixed all this.

@Simbosan Ай бұрын

@@sonicbloomtuts thanks much for the reply. I just deleted and recreated =) Resetting sounds scarily like I would have to retag everything... NOOOOO!

@torino1138 Ай бұрын

Thank you 😂🎉

@torino1138 Ай бұрын

All they had to do was allow infinite collection folders instead of 7 (or if not infinite, at least thirty to fifty, lol, as to why that should so hard, I don’t know!), and then give users the option to utilitize the tagging system if they prefer it, as opposed to force everyone to the same workflow. The only issue I ever had with the browser was the collections folders capping out at 7. The tagging system, for me and so many people I know, is just another clutter to weed through. I appreciate some people like it, but that’s why there should be an option.

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

@@torino1138 You're welcome. Once you put in some work (not that that's what we needed), the Live 12 browser can be quite useful. Out of the box, I still consider it a big mess.

@AmeyahOfficialTV Ай бұрын

if only tagging and collections would work together ...

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

It does.

@Spectral24-qc4tp Ай бұрын

I don’t like to complain because I cannot code and I’m just a user. But I’ve used Live since version 7 and my honest option is that this browser update is horrible. Also Live is great but becoming a bit boring in the way that I looks.

@sonicbloomtuts Ай бұрын

I agree. Luckily we at least get a lot of options for customisation, which is why I made this video. I have huge issues with how the browser was changed in Live 12 out of the box, but I found a way to make it work. With putting in some thought and work.

@Spectral24-qc4tp Ай бұрын

@sonicbloomtuts Yes likewise. I've made great progress this week organising everything.. but it's annoying that for my plugins I have loads of tags but can't minimize all at once. Alt + Click doesn't work..

@mthomas1091 Ай бұрын

I personally appreciate that honesty 🤷‍♂️