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Joshua Schmidt

Joshua Schmidt

8 ай бұрын

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@0dddballl750
@0dddballl750 8 ай бұрын
"Don't hit runick because there was only 1 runick deck in top cut" "Ban jasmine"
@116_Gaming
@116_Gaming 8 ай бұрын
Jasmine has an FTK built around her. Thank you.
@116_Gaming
@116_Gaming 8 ай бұрын
FTKs generally get banned no matter the deck
@Lobster44
@Lobster44 8 ай бұрын
​@@116_GamingThey really don't though, there's so many jank ftks that are still legal and Jasmine's main use isn't too degenerate. I could see a limit being warranted, though it won't happen with aroma support coming, but a ban just kills a rogue deck for no reason
@0dddballl750
@0dddballl750 8 ай бұрын
@@116_Gaming yeah it has an FTK. That was fixed before her release in the tcg? They banned amaryllis which was the only potentially relevant FTK with jasmine. You're chatting
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 8 ай бұрын
@@116_Gaming only if they are _too_ consistent
@aaronfromlv1552
@aaronfromlv1552 8 ай бұрын
Confirmed: konami ban list intern just gets his ideas from joshua schmidt videos
@Altigue
@Altigue 8 ай бұрын
Josh: *Makes banlist wishlist* Konami: *Drops banlist very next day* 😂😂😂
@TheProgenitor
@TheProgenitor 8 ай бұрын
On a more realistic note, if you wanna hit plant, Jasmine to 1 honestly would probably be enough. It allows plant to exist as a deck without hurting the upcoming aroma support, but it severely impacts the deck's high end. A lot of plant pile's most powerful end boards go through 2 Jasmine, and if not, the second Jasmine is for followup. 1 Jasmine impacts both of those use cases, and forces their lines to have a lower average ceiling while also being more linear.
@haydenz0
@haydenz0 8 ай бұрын
its arguably plant link doesn't even use the new Aroma support because its higher ceiling at the cost of non-engine space. But you're correct, Jasmine to 1 would reduce the deck's ceiling/ability to follow-up. Its still an odd hit anyways since Plant isn't making up a large share of the meta, and arguably not good enough anymore because it can't use S:P.
@scott898586
@scott898586 8 ай бұрын
Like Isolde and Halq, it was printed and probably should not have been as they are today. These should have all been limited to function in archetype only and not be as generic as they are. All 3 deserve to be banned. 1 has been. Every time warrior and plant seem to be in the meta, these two are at the heart of the problem of facilitating these decks.
@TheProgenitor
@TheProgenitor 8 ай бұрын
@@scott898586 Jasmine is certainly an absurdly strong card that is central to most plant decks, but it isn't nearly as generically applicable or powerful as Halq or Isolde. Those two cards work by themselves. Jasmine, on her own, doesn't do anything. She needs another plant to tribute and/or another card to trigger her when you gain LP. Halq just summons a tuner for free. Isolde searches any warrior on summon and then tutors one from deck by foolishing any equip spell(s), which are typically then added back to hand by Renaud or some other degenerate shit if you summoned something else. By the very nature of Plant support adhering to other plant support, Jasmine's applications are locked within the context of generic plant strategies. Saying Jasmine deserves to be banned because it overcentralizes plant strategies is like saying Mezuki should be banned because every single zombie strategy not named Eldlich runs it and has run it ever since it released.
@evanthedude9862
@evanthedude9862 8 ай бұрын
@@scott898586 And? why is that an issue? jasmine and isolde arent close to halqs power level and youre delusional if youre insinuating they are. they make the decks solid meta relevant decks. im sure youre just mad you lose to them consistently 🤷
@scott898586
@scott898586 8 ай бұрын
@@evanthedude9862 I do not lose to them all that often. These cards were all designed in the same space and facilitate similar lines of play. There is a reason Halq was the first to go. It was obviously the strongest one and by the time it got banned it set up 2 negates on most end boards and got several tuners banned. All of that could have been avoided had it been limited to crystons only. Isolde and Jasmine are of the same power level and have deserved their bans as well. They were not properly designed. Mali continues to exist at 2 and bulb remains banned because of these cards. If these cards were restricted to only being able to summon in archetype monsters, and adding in terms of isolse, they would be completely fine. They would not be worthy of discussion. Generic pile of archetype decks should not be meta because 1 card exists to push an entire type of monsters. Zombies aren't good because of their vrains pack 1 link 2. If your deck lives or dies by a singular extra deck monster, it didn't deserve to be at that table anyways.
@mehmetaskar1356
@mehmetaskar1356 8 ай бұрын
Konami stole this video you should copyright strike them
@yuseifudo6075
@yuseifudo6075 8 ай бұрын
It's so hilarious that the banlist came literally one day after this video.
@DG_Raizen
@DG_Raizen 8 ай бұрын
I agree with Little Knight. While it is strong, it is not so format warping that limiting or removing it would make much of a difference. Little Knight's biggest problem is the price tag/limited availability.
@vedantgupta2145
@vedantgupta2145 8 ай бұрын
It’s beyond good tho
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 8 ай бұрын
​@@vedantgupta2145its utopia the lightning good, puts in work and annoying at times, but its not a real problem
@vedantgupta2145
@vedantgupta2145 8 ай бұрын
then y ban fenrir lol, its the same argument. its mandatory to play it at 2-3 copies in the deck. Its much worse than a fenrir@@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 8 ай бұрын
@@vedantgupta2145 i never said i wanted that card banned. People seem tired of seeing it though. Put it to 2 seems fair is basically a free body. The banish isnt as good a pranks pop though
@ultimatemeepo
@ultimatemeepo 8 ай бұрын
@@vedantgupta2145 Fenrir is so polarizing i have won games by having ash in my hand and passing with only fenrir on board....by far the strongest kashtira card and every deck coming out is power checked by asking the same question... "does kashtira fenrir activated at the right time solos my deck?" if the answer to that is yes then boom question answered...this is obviously in a vacuum but i understand why OCG banned it completely
@deckzonetcg8907
@deckzonetcg8907 8 ай бұрын
Certainly Konami wouldn't drop a list the day after.
@ralman88
@ralman88 8 ай бұрын
You got your wish I guess, after your mathmech grind in MD they just straight up banned Circular...
@Sasuke201305
@Sasuke201305 8 ай бұрын
WTF, josh you literally hit 3 out of the 4 bans for the Jan 2024 List 🤯 + Circular! Its almost like a custom list from/for you 😂
@stupiddog321
@stupiddog321 8 ай бұрын
Joshua won the YCS and his reward to be able to decide the next banlist. Nice.
@Ferrabot
@Ferrabot 8 ай бұрын
Diverse format is incredible. Konami needs to keep the tcg this way for as long as possible
@invertbrid
@invertbrid 8 ай бұрын
Very agree. This is great format rn. Konami shouldve aim or diversity in all formats going forward, but indeed hard to do
@bioniclelegend7
@bioniclelegend7 8 ай бұрын
As a purely spectator of the tcg now I love this format and not knowing what deck could do well
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 8 ай бұрын
It cant stay like this too long, stuff needs to cycle. Also players make formats not konami
@eugeneoxtord
@eugeneoxtord 8 ай бұрын
​@@GuessWhatHappened1 New decks will be out man, that's not a problem
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 8 ай бұрын
@@eugeneoxtord This happen before just so you know many times, the community didnt move on to newer decks because the older ones were just as good. Everything got hit and we restarted. Players make formats, konami ends them. Diversity usually happens overtime, not quickly.
@Auovix
@Auovix 8 ай бұрын
I love this current diverse format where rogue can keep Meta on its toes
@snipingchase
@snipingchase 8 ай бұрын
Just 2 weeks ago at my locals my opponent is playing red-eyes and I’m playing chimera with tiny branded package. He summons dragoon. I super poly it away for mudragon, I get rid of their board except one back row. I attack and they activate drowning mirror force. I pass turn. They reborn dragoon and I scoop
@YeahTheDuckweed
@YeahTheDuckweed 8 ай бұрын
​@@snipingchase my favourite red-eyes card. Mirror force
@maunabesanika
@maunabesanika 8 ай бұрын
​@@YeahTheDuckweedsame tbh
@rafflez8961
@rafflez8961 8 ай бұрын
the problem is a diverse format spreads the value of cards and makes everything a bit more affordable. Konami can't have players dropping less than $300 every 3 months to compete
@Wangel-
@Wangel- 8 ай бұрын
Pankratops being hit and fenrir being at 3 is so funny
@s-zs7nn
@s-zs7nn 8 ай бұрын
it wasnt hit it went from 1 to 2
@Wangel-
@Wangel- 7 ай бұрын
@@s-zs7nn i commented this before the banlist came out, i was referring to the fact that pankratops was at 1 at the time which feels ridiculous
@s-zs7nn
@s-zs7nn 7 ай бұрын
@@Wangel- oh i see makes sense
@Wangel-
@Wangel- 7 ай бұрын
@@s-zs7nn thanks for understanding
@ducky36F
@ducky36F 8 ай бұрын
I love Josh unashamedly meme’ing on his love for runicks and hate for plants in the tier list 😂
@Animexdraco
@Animexdraco 8 ай бұрын
For your take on Jasmine, I wish you for the next banlist a very pleasant Mathmech Circular back to 3 (Or Fountain ban, you can choose)
@CompleteToast
@CompleteToast 8 ай бұрын
Do both
@N1GhtKnIGht
@N1GhtKnIGht 8 ай бұрын
jasmin is toxic bullshit, kokon is also... ban both
@lz9275
@lz9275 8 ай бұрын
​@@N1GhtKnIGhtnever gonna happen, cope harder
@N1GhtKnIGht
@N1GhtKnIGht 8 ай бұрын
@@lz9275 rikka still dead, finally
@lz9275
@lz9275 8 ай бұрын
@@N1GhtKnIGht nah, sunavalon is, Rikka will be coming back eventually
@zerochill4096
@zerochill4096 8 ай бұрын
My issue with hitting Wanted is that the Decks that use the Diabellstar engine will pivot to the Populous Snake-Eye Engine post-PHNI and it still achieves the same result if not be better than the Diabellstar Engine. Wanted after that point just becomes such a Nothingburger hit when PHNI has every Deck running the Snake-Eyes Engine gain consistency while letting them make powerful plays they didn't have before
@f687sNFM
@f687sNFM 8 ай бұрын
We should hit every deck until earth machine is tier 0
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 8 ай бұрын
This is SO much funnier to watch now lmao
@stayflyxx
@stayflyxx 8 ай бұрын
Are people being serious about banning Jasmine? She's not broken at all. Not breaking any formats or anything. Just a solid combo piece.
@alexanderpech7302
@alexanderpech7302 8 ай бұрын
Fenrir to 1 did affect vanquish soul, because then you don't have the flexibility to add earth or fire. This is what makes fenrir good in VS.
@nbafanboy1967
@nbafanboy1967 8 ай бұрын
if the card was only played in VS then okay but the card is played in every deck. Limit for sure is the way to go.
@assumingfrog7944
@assumingfrog7944 8 ай бұрын
Yeah, Josh was sort of just chatting for a lot of these takes
@alexanderpech7302
@alexanderpech7302 8 ай бұрын
@@nbafanboy1967 I agree that fenrir is a problematic card, but I want to clearfy that Josh's take (play more fieldspells) isn't correct here. I rather have a good second vanquish soul support wave then a generic boss monster that everyone can play.
@reezyrenzel439
@reezyrenzel439 8 ай бұрын
Vanquish Soul already so bricky. Let's limit Fenrir and add 3 field spells to brick even more with less attributes lol
@nbafanboy1967
@nbafanboy1967 8 ай бұрын
@@reezyrenzel439 VS is not the first thing people think about when talking about Fenrir. Honestly I could care less if I never VS again if that means limiting Fenrir.
@MrLampguy233
@MrLampguy233 8 ай бұрын
I really like Little Knight, it makes games actually last longer than 2 turns. If you want the banish effect or if you're trying to play around it, they both cost you your battle phase. Very balanced card imo. As for the millers and shifter, they can go straight to the forbidden section
@darkmagicianfan3423
@darkmagicianfan3423 8 ай бұрын
Jasmine to 1 makes sense but 0 just kills a deck for no reason.
@Adalon-
@Adalon- 8 ай бұрын
He is so salty ass mad over losing to plants lol. I am honestly impressed by how angry he is
@lancerguy3667
@lancerguy3667 8 ай бұрын
“Nuke plants from orbit, but don’t you DARE take away my pet deck’s ability to draw 6 for no damned reason!!” Yeah, his biases are always fun.
@geek593
@geek593 8 ай бұрын
The only people who like Plants are the people who play Plants. No one is ever happy to be sitting across from the sweaty autogynephile desperately attempting to take the game to time.
@darkmagicianfan3423
@darkmagicianfan3423 8 ай бұрын
@@geek593 you can make this same argument for almost any meta deck right now.
@geek593
@geek593 8 ай бұрын
@@darkmagicianfan3423 Few decks want to take you to time as its win condition.
@dkphame
@dkphame 8 ай бұрын
I changed my mind This format is THE BEST Nothing is unfair No banlist needed
@Stylercom113
@Stylercom113 8 ай бұрын
Skill drin to 0
@planetofkryk
@planetofkryk 8 ай бұрын
I'd still change one thing, tho. D shifter should get banned. It leads to non games and kills a lot of decks. It's unhealthy like all hell. Even for casual plays, it sucks. Kills too many rogue to high tier decks
@tecul1
@tecul1 8 ай бұрын
😅
@Stylercom113
@Stylercom113 8 ай бұрын
@@planetofkryk it doesnt unchained and rescue ace can play under shifter
@planetofkryk
@planetofkryk 8 ай бұрын
@@Stylercom113 but lab suffers it, purrely suffers it, fire king gets slaughter (and with populous I can see the deck become more prevalent)... It does, I never said it kills any deck, I said that it's really bad for many decks including the top tier strategies. Which it does plenty
@monkfishy6348
@monkfishy6348 8 ай бұрын
Josh "I don't like consistency hits" Schmidt "Emergency to 1 and kill the deck"
@DrRockso9
@DrRockso9 8 ай бұрын
Air lifter in consistency. Emergency is a dragon circle and consistency
@reezyrenzel439
@reezyrenzel439 8 ай бұрын
Would be so funny if Josh winning YCS Bologna gets Runick nuked on the latest banlist
@CompleteToast
@CompleteToast 8 ай бұрын
Ban fountain
@JuanLau
@JuanLau 8 ай бұрын
Being that Runick has been reprinted, it is a good candidate to be hit slightly. Just slightly. It is not broken tbh.
@johns7617
@johns7617 8 ай бұрын
thats not how banlist work, 1 people doing well with runick don't deserve banlist
@justinosolisjs
@justinosolisjs 8 ай бұрын
"They will not ban a card that kills centur-ion" *flashbacks to when they banned superheavy samurai scarecrow* 🥴🥴
@matthewmontella70
@matthewmontella70 8 ай бұрын
Shs was much stronger in the format
@GregScala
@GregScala 8 ай бұрын
SHS was cheaper
@BealBega
@BealBega 8 ай бұрын
The runick bit killed me I didn't think it would be fast
@donovanican2535
@donovanican2535 8 ай бұрын
I think Josh works at Konami???
@verbalengine95
@verbalengine95 8 ай бұрын
I do kinda want Beatrice banned as the unofficial Tear hit, but mainly also because there's a million psuedo-FTKs with Beatrice and Transition Rollback
@keidozzz2445
@keidozzz2445 8 ай бұрын
I would also prefere Banning Beatrice and Kelbek with leaving Agido in the Game As a one Off mill and for memes
@kirbyale7948
@kirbyale7948 8 ай бұрын
Oh you so are right about transaction rollback... I don't really know if the beatrice shenanigans with it will be meta viable, but it will be surely unfun
@lament22
@lament22 8 ай бұрын
nah, banning the millers is enough, and it will happen
@shulershifty6240
@shulershifty6240 8 ай бұрын
Nah. Ban Merrli, Scheiren or Havnis, and bring all Ishizu to 3. Ishizu is poopoo without Tear, for other mill strategies are nowhere near as conceptually volatile as Tear.
@keidozzz2445
@keidozzz2445 8 ай бұрын
@@shulershifty6240 L
@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@Gilgamesh-em6ru 8 ай бұрын
I'm not sold on the isolde ban. I feel people want it gone for its past crimes when it's actually needed in the infernoble deck and that deck isn't entirely unfair. I would be ok if it was put to 1 since it prevent people from just making a 2nd isolde in turn 2 or turn 1 for the idiots that imperm/veiler isolde on the 1st effect.
@CompleteToast
@CompleteToast 8 ай бұрын
It's just a problem inherently. It may not be good now but it'll find something to break eventually. Same thing with the Curious ban. Was it good, no. Is it still a problem, yes.
@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@Gilgamesh-em6ru 8 ай бұрын
@@CompleteToast and if something does "break" it guess what. It's most likely a fragile combo anyway and won't see more than fringe play just like with the exodia deck Jeff had. Th curious ban was different. Pre-millers it was a combo extender for tearlaments + a floodgate searcher with gryphon. In the current state tear is in they would 100% play it again if it ever got unbanned.
@tommasopenati9635
@tommasopenati9635 8 ай бұрын
Isolde rn is being abused by infernoble, mikanko and even rescue ace. The ability to dump equipment as cost + SS from deck without any lock is ridiculous. The card has got to go
@Gilgamesh-em6ru
@Gilgamesh-em6ru 8 ай бұрын
@@tommasopenati9635 2 things : 1) most rescue ace are not using isolde. 2) they're running a brick to even use it. If they ever draw the 1 equipt they lose the combo. mikanko won 1 event. That's it they aren't a top meta threat just a surprise factor at the moment. And I wouldn't say Infernoble abuses isolde when it's an in-archetype card and almost all the equips are even engine cards.
@Videoguygamer
@Videoguygamer 8 ай бұрын
​@@tommasopenati9635 how is it being abused by Infernoble? It's literally made for the deck, it's a noble knight card.
@PsychoKern
@PsychoKern 8 ай бұрын
Guess your complaining about plants finally payed off 😂
@David-hw9si
@David-hw9si 8 ай бұрын
Pank should absolutely come off the list because the more board breaker we have, the better. Outside of perhaps certain weird Dino decks, it is exclusively a going second card. Konami won't do it because they want to sell new cards, but it should. Also Fountain to 1
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 8 ай бұрын
If pank comes off a lot of backrow decks will struggle
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 8 ай бұрын
@@GuessWhatHappened1Absolutely not true. Backrow decks nowadays don't die to something like that anymore. And if they do, it#s a deck issue. Pank is one of the healthiest cards in its niche, since most of the time, it's a one for one.
@GuessWhatHappened1
@GuessWhatHappened1 8 ай бұрын
@@slenderman4788 prank is a 1 for at worst most of the time its a 2 for 1 It beats over a lot of monsters and pops. 2 for 1 If you try to use an effect on it it chains and pops 2 for 1 You can foolish burial the field spell and ss it from deck too
@geek593
@geek593 8 ай бұрын
@@GuessWhatHappened1 Floodgate decks would struggle. And to that I say: "Good. Fuck em."
@GD9195
@GD9195 8 ай бұрын
Josh actually confirmed Konami employee
@reezyrenzel439
@reezyrenzel439 8 ай бұрын
Please limit Fountain and Hugin
@zithert
@zithert 8 ай бұрын
Dont Touch my lab or i bring your fountain to 1. Big Welcome to 2 is okay but 1 absolutely NO. Touch around labrynth the traps but not labrynth itself
@YuiraKun
@YuiraKun 8 ай бұрын
people wanting to ban jasmine is a huge fuck you to us aroma players
@116_Gaming
@116_Gaming 8 ай бұрын
Yeah.
@f687sNFM
@f687sNFM 8 ай бұрын
BAN RUNICK FOUNTAIN not a joke
@CompleteToast
@CompleteToast 8 ай бұрын
Yeah lets just make every single one of your interruptions hand traps , oh thats not good enough? Ok, we'll make them all instant fusion as well, still not good enough? Ok you can draw 3 at minimum at the end phase. How Fountain ever even made it to print is beyond me.
@milklander847
@milklander847 8 ай бұрын
I agree this
@geek593
@geek593 8 ай бұрын
The Synchro variants prove that hitting the additional engine mixed into Runick will never be enough to stop the deck from being viable. They'll find another engine. Bystial is just Naturia with a coat of paint. And Runick has the cringe stun variant terrorizing locals and regionals with its degenerate gameplay. Runick is the problem and always has been.
@europaboi
@europaboi 8 ай бұрын
Here's some takes Harp to 1 and to 3 on the next list after Hydrant to 1 Kelbek and Agido to 0, Kitkallos to 1
@billyofspades
@billyofspades 8 ай бұрын
His bias towards Runick is exhausting
@Supertoddy96
@Supertoddy96 8 ай бұрын
Runick needs to ban fountain, there is no reason i go against a deck that prevents me from being able to completely negate everything and nothing happens in the duel, protects its own engine being fountain, then the game is just a pass, 20 effects, i get to do nothing and my deck gets milled
@Flashofblades
@Flashofblades 8 ай бұрын
A banlist should be taking things off the banlist more than putting things on.
@evanthedude9862
@evanthedude9862 8 ай бұрын
Josh I love you but please stop asking for isoldes ban. Card does nothing in OCG consistently and as a longtime player of warriors people disregard the equip bricks bc they dont play the deck only against it, you draw them constantly. Isolde is a fair card that requires significant deck space for bricks while losing hard to an imperm. Hit dolphin hit armageddon hit the ftk enablers but dont make isolde pay for konami having a 22 year pool of warrior monsters. Hitting isolde is never the move unless your aim is to make warrior decks unplayable. It would get me to quit modern yugioh :(
@xCorvus7x
@xCorvus7x 8 ай бұрын
14:49 How about limiting all of these floodgates?
@TheSushiAttack
@TheSushiAttack 8 ай бұрын
I play a lot of Labrynth. I think hitting an of their in-archetype cards is stupid. We lose to: DUSTER ASH BELLE LIGHTNING STORM EVENLY MATCHED ANYTHING HORUS DIMENSION SHIFTER (If no furniture to chain) BYSTIALS And the Big Welcome is a fair card. Its one effect per turn and once per turn, it banishes for cost, regular welcome locks us, Arianna is one effect oer turn, etc. If they get hit, they need to hit the power traps like EEV.
@knmrt2760
@knmrt2760 8 ай бұрын
I don't think EEV going away would affect Lab that much, with how much recursion and recovery most decks have rn you have to be really lucky for EEV to even put in work... Honestly does Lab even need any kind of hit though with how easily the deck folds to a singular ash or getting your ladies banished ?
@TheSushiAttack
@TheSushiAttack 8 ай бұрын
@@knmrt2760 EEV was just one example. But the deck literally gets countered by so many other cards that interrupt it. I don't think Labrynth needs to be touched.
@babrad
@babrad 8 ай бұрын
@@TheSushiAttack IMO they need to ban Different Dimension Ground and D-Barrier way before they touch Eradicator These can easily become win-buttons post side. The problem is though that without those card no matter how much interruption you throw (as a Lab deck) to the opponent is still not enough to stop them. Even in ideal cases of Big-W bounce + Lovely pop + 1 trap set by Lady (for example Daruma), it's still not enough and already requires a 3 card combo. Give even Dragon-link a 3 card combo it you won't come back from their turn 1 board (same applies to Rescue, Unchained, Purrely, Infernoble, Tear). Lab as card design is very interactive and back-and-forth gameplay like the original Sky Strikers. The problem is the access to generic win-button Normal Traps that shouldn't activate so easily.
@slenderman4788
@slenderman4788 8 ай бұрын
@@babrad This exactly. Lab cards themselves I like a lot in how they function and support normal traps. It just got a bad reputation among players for those "win buttons", like you said. Also to OP: How does any good Lab deck nowadays "lose" to duster/LS/evenly? If that's the case you may wanna reconsider your build.
@TheSushiAttack
@TheSushiAttack 8 ай бұрын
@@babrad Traps that activate so easily only happen if you open optimally. You have to jump through hoops to activate traps the turn they're set. But then you have other cards in this game that AREN'T traps that activate "too easily" and garner advantage.
@Papiness
@Papiness 8 ай бұрын
Yes ive said before and people say its unneccessary but Fenrir needs to be limited so at the very least it becomes a less obvious staple as a free 0 card. Hitting it makes them most likely rid of a imperm bait and free interrupt for any 2 turns. Its too generic for its own good but if we limit it then kashtira decks can still play their combo (more vulnerable tho) but still playable w/ unlimit unicorn. Its kinda like one of those staples where theres little to no downside and everybody can play it like Pot of Greed. And if everybody can play it then it just makes games more textbook and less variety--making it stale. Same goes for MD format, then unlimit field spell.
@pableitor2009
@pableitor2009 8 ай бұрын
Hitting any of the labrynth cards is a huge mistake. If you hit any of it's engine it will just devolve into floodgate fiesta which no one likes. If you want to hit labrynth you need to hit d-barrier and viruses, which are the only cards that makes labrynth steal games and feel awful
@SaucyCharmander
@SaucyCharmander 8 ай бұрын
It makes no sense orcust loses the absolute hardest to bystials and shifter compared to every other toss deck but for some reason it’s still banned
@floriandreux2578
@floriandreux2578 8 ай бұрын
Runick will not be hit, loci won 2 european + 1 ycs without being hit, we're fiiiiine
@jaredricci9278
@jaredricci9278 8 ай бұрын
The real 2 head take is complaining about a diverse format.
@whales312
@whales312 8 ай бұрын
It’s good if you’re just a local person who doesn’t compete and plays whatever they want. It’s insanely difficult and frustrating for competitive players because planning is difficult, and side decking is extremely complicated
@CSOHM
@CSOHM 8 ай бұрын
​@whales312 it's supposed to be hard😅
@cuttlefish6839
@cuttlefish6839 8 ай бұрын
​@@whales312the sign of a bad game is when it caters to competitive players. The game is first and foremost supposed to support casual.
@ludvighallstrom5585
@ludvighallstrom5585 8 ай бұрын
⁠​⁠​⁠@@CSOHMagree, ”it makes competitive play more challengeing” like yeah it should be
@sheathvinz6451
@sheathvinz6451 8 ай бұрын
No matter what, format must change diverse or not. Also it’s fine to complain lol. I mean all this years everyone gonna complain on every little thing anyway kekw
@lorenzotringalicasanuova
@lorenzotringalicasanuova 8 ай бұрын
Ban all lingering effects. Runick fountain and prosperity to 1. Also, Joshua says: you cannot make an argument about runick. Fountain let's you draw 3 cards in best scenario (no other cards let you do that), the effect is super easy to trigger on both YOUR turn, and YOUR OPPONENT turn. But, most of all, the effect to put back quick spells and draw is soft once per turn, so if you have 2 fountain you can draw 4 to 6 cards. Finally, the Runick engine is very very splashable in a lot of strategies. Tell me these are not arguments.
@babrad
@babrad 8 ай бұрын
I believe the issue is "17 ways to Fountain instead of 3" and not Fountain itself, namely Hugin.
@EMPCraft
@EMPCraft 8 ай бұрын
13:30 Thats untrue becuse you cant summon Fenrir and search Fenrir to hold an Earth in Hand. Overall i agree with Joshs take, but this one isnt true as a VS Specialist.
@ps_ich
@ps_ich 8 ай бұрын
sir why cant I summon fenrir search fenrir?
@EMPCraft
@EMPCraft 8 ай бұрын
if its at 1?@@ps_ich
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 8 ай бұрын
It's funny cause I do just that in MD. They don't allow you to search fenrir in TCG?
@benign4823
@benign4823 8 ай бұрын
Fenrir has no clause that prevents it from searching itself, so why do you claim it can't be done?
@CyrusMD08
@CyrusMD08 8 ай бұрын
Apparently none of those replies have watched the video, he's talking about limiting fenrir on the banlist... thus you can't search a 2nd one.
@50V3RNTY
@50V3RNTY 8 ай бұрын
An called by the grave should comeback if all these hand traps are still gonna be around
@avagrim9891
@avagrim9891 8 ай бұрын
Bro, can you PLEASE call Konami to unbann Isolde? What have you done? 😂
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 8 ай бұрын
Nah. That card has stayed for way too long lmao
@Kirinmon
@Kirinmon 8 ай бұрын
Its kinda messed up ygo players feel entitled to free side deck card wins. You cant choose a free 15 cards to shut down the only 2 other decks in the format? Boohoo. Diverse formats will always, -always- be better than few decks formats
@Multillision
@Multillision 8 ай бұрын
Bring back Colossus ban nemesis corridor. Thunderdragon should be playable without colossus being splashed into every extra deck
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 8 ай бұрын
No. Fuck floodgates. If your deck cant survive without a dumbass floodgate then it deserves to stay behind
@rougetierduelist2497
@rougetierduelist2497 8 ай бұрын
Little knight being expensive is not a thing Konami cares about. They do not recognize the secondary market and they have shown that with sinful spoils package and sp. there obvious solution is. “Buy more packs and boxes”
@micahdeming8468
@micahdeming8468 8 ай бұрын
An expensive card in a box they're still printing gives them more sales for that box. They profit off of sp being legal
@monkfishy6348
@monkfishy6348 8 ай бұрын
They absolutely do recognize the secondary market. It's what they look at when deciding on reprints. They aren't going to ban a card that's in a box they are still printing, when it's the secondary market demand that is selling those boxes.
@eu4um
@eu4um 8 ай бұрын
The argument for Calamity is really weak. It's the same as saying VFD should have stayed legal because it kept VW viable. If it needs a degenerate car to be viable, it shouldnt have it at all.
@skullninjadude
@skullninjadude 8 ай бұрын
Don't touch Isolde, you murder infernoble. In reality the true problem card is Dolphin in infernoble because you can rip or force your opponent to stop Connector before Isolde. If Dolphin is gone, Isolde becomes a serious choke point
@Hungryfox1
@Hungryfox1 8 ай бұрын
Dolphin doesn't ftk you
@yu-gi-oase7498
@yu-gi-oase7498 8 ай бұрын
that doesnt matter because isolde is inherit completely overdesigned
@Magnamhut
@Magnamhut 8 ай бұрын
To people saying dolphin doesnt ftk, it usually does since you get forced to waste your interruptions on it, so ban dolphin it's simple
@lament22
@lament22 8 ай бұрын
they arent hitting dolphin lmao
@skullninjadude
@skullninjadude 8 ай бұрын
I've lost a lot of games getting ashed or impermed on my Isolde but I've never lost a game where Dolphin resolved
@AndrewUdal
@AndrewUdal 8 ай бұрын
This banlist is based. Though hot take, I feel limiting purrely street and noir to 1 would be a more interesting way to hit purrely. Doesn’t remove consistency however it removes some of its protection and with only 1 noir makes the grind game much harder.
@qureldeering968
@qureldeering968 8 ай бұрын
I think the people complaining about diverse formats need to understand that 1-3 formats are not inherently better or healthier for the game just because you believe it requires less thinking to prepare for. People will always play rogue and people will always lose to random rouge regardless of the format and that has almost always been in the nature of the game. Like if you genuinely believe that random rougue/tier 2 decks are what’s stopping you from being a top tier player, or winning your event then there’s a problem in how you’re approaching the game and there’s something you need to improve at. There’s just so many reason why diverse formats are better for the health of the game it’s too many to list on this one comment.
@kevinbraibant2618
@kevinbraibant2618 8 ай бұрын
The next banlist should be extremely minimalistic and more of an unban-list. Format is fine, let newer decks/support powercreep the format before doing a big banlist.
@Stylercom113
@Stylercom113 8 ай бұрын
They did that 1 year so no
@gilgameshkingofheroes2042
@gilgameshkingofheroes2042 8 ай бұрын
@@Stylercom113 During TOSS format?
@e-tan3911
@e-tan3911 8 ай бұрын
@@gilgameshkingofheroes2042 TOSS was over 4 years ago now. They made an "unban" list during early covid, where they hit basically nothing but unbanned some older cards. Harp never came off for some reason.
@maunabesanika
@maunabesanika 8 ай бұрын
Ah yes my fav "special summon fenrir, fenrir search fenrir"
@Andretop-ur7ue
@Andretop-ur7ue 8 ай бұрын
if Isolde Is banned we can Say bye bye to infernoble kight
@Knax2500
@Knax2500 8 ай бұрын
And Mikanko
@king_acceler8755
@king_acceler8755 8 ай бұрын
@@Knax2500 Lol no, the OTK build never needed Isolde, it just makes the acid golem version have to open ken or gen instead of just being able to summon from deck for free.
@Knax2500
@Knax2500 8 ай бұрын
@@king_acceler8755 You‘ll essentially never Summon Golem without Isolde and Acid Golem is also not all the deck does. Just ban the damn Acid Golem and the Deck becomes fine and still stays competitive
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA
@wrought-ironheroEMIYA 8 ай бұрын
As an MD player why do ppl suddenly hate infernoble? The new support looks fire. Yall still have divine Phoenix blade legal right?😂
@Bigdog-qs2zz
@Bigdog-qs2zz 8 ай бұрын
Probably for the best lol
@Charmander_R27
@Charmander_R27 8 ай бұрын
I love Josh's videos, but man Runick is the deck I want banned most. It's the only deck this format that I just absolutely HATE going against.
@nathanscott729
@nathanscott729 8 ай бұрын
Harp Horror my beloved, we will reunite soon.
@reirei_tk
@reirei_tk 8 ай бұрын
Damn how did he film his banlist reaction THAT early?
@crack.d
@crack.d 8 ай бұрын
Would love to hear your take on the new lightsworns! Need your genius on this one, trying to mix your branded regained strategy with the bystials and lightsworns to spam out Chaos Angel.. also Kashtira tears are interesting because a Felis/ raiden/ new tuner + a free Kash summon is punisher end and combined with Michael / JD could be dangerous just how consistent is the question
@silv3r7ongue97
@silv3r7ongue97 8 ай бұрын
Lightsworns tier 0
@davide94extreme39
@davide94extreme39 8 ай бұрын
I have fear that if ls turns out to be strong players and konami will fuck it just like they did with tear. In tcg you can only play control , midrange or dlink lol
@F3XT
@F3XT 8 ай бұрын
@@davide94extreme39 what the hell are you talking about
@Mikey-ct3qf
@Mikey-ct3qf 8 ай бұрын
I’m doing the same thing lol. Don’t forget seyfert it’s an insane mill
@crack.d
@crack.d 8 ай бұрын
@@Mikey-ct3qf it also triggers your regained to shuffle it back and draw one after using it to add lubellion or JD to your hand, I play one in my builds too!
@Knax2500
@Knax2500 8 ай бұрын
Banning Isolde just feels wrong. While Mikanko and Infernoble should be adressed banning Isolde just fucking murders both decks. I‘d say banning Acid Golem/Transverser is a better Hit to Mikanko and banning Phoenix Blade and hitting Connector should tune down Infernoble decently well
@skullninjadude
@skullninjadude 8 ай бұрын
This is the correct take. Also banning Phoenix blade helps sell the retrain coming out next month.
@silent7159
@silent7159 8 ай бұрын
Dolphin is probably a better hit than Connecter. Handrips are unhealthy for the game. Agreed on Phoenix Blade ban
@SaucyCharmander
@SaucyCharmander 8 ай бұрын
Connector or dolphin is the very clear hit, Isolde is doing what it was actually meant to do in supporting equip decks, banning it now of all times is so dumb. Yes I’m bias and I play Mikanko but if you want cards banned you should ban dolphin or acid golem, those two are easily the least fun parts of the deck and i would have no issue seeing both or one go
@Knax2500
@Knax2500 8 ай бұрын
@@SaucyCharmander I genuiely don’t get the hate towards Infernoble and Mikanko. Yes their good and their endboards are both kinda stupid but It’s not like you have to kill them completely. Banning Acid Golem + the Connector package + Phoenix Blade and maybe limiting Isolde nudges them down without wiping them out of the meta. Also it‘s okay to not Ban Calamity because of Centurion but banning Isolde is fine? Joshua wth
@GreenHam77
@GreenHam77 8 ай бұрын
I'm going to be bummed if this proposed list is close to accurate as I just got Infernoble and Fenrir...that's what I get for slowly saving up I guess... :(
@GlueGoose
@GlueGoose 8 ай бұрын
Limiting sharvara completely kills the deck. Prosperity hit already does way too much to hurt the deck already but it prosperity needs to be hit. Limiting tour guide or even hitting the extra deck monsters with a limit or semi would be better.
@Cybertech134
@Cybertech134 8 ай бұрын
"The format is very diverse. Some people are happy about that, some people are not happy about that..." Let's not pretend like both "some peoples" are anywhere near the same quantity.
@Jaganphotos
@Jaganphotos 8 ай бұрын
Hitting Air Lifter would be better than Emergency.
@Kevallmighty
@Kevallmighty 8 ай бұрын
Yea Sharvara to 1 kills the deck. Abom Prison to 1 with pot to 1 will be fair. But Unchained was a surprise for konami and they arent going to support it or sell anything because of it. I dont want it to happen but thats why i believe they will limit Sharvara theres nothing for konami to gain from it still being a meta deck.
@RealityRick
@RealityRick 8 ай бұрын
Yugioh players when its a 1-3 deck format: 😩😩😩 Also Yugioh players when theres a diverse format: 😩😩😩
@geek593
@geek593 8 ай бұрын
This is such a chat take. People almost never complain about the diversity of a format in 3-4 deck formats. There are complaints about the gameplay of those decks but no one is really complaining about metagame-enforced blind spots in the side deck on the competitive side and a lack of viable options on the casual side.
@Beacopp
@Beacopp 8 ай бұрын
Runick can not stay full power. Fountain to 1 is fair.
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 8 ай бұрын
Thats a stupid hit
@lz9275
@lz9275 8 ай бұрын
​@@sammydray5919true, they need to limit hugin and tip as well
@sammydray5919
@sammydray5919 8 ай бұрын
@@lz9275 wouldn't mind hugin limit tbh. Tip imo is fine. A semi limit shouldn't be too bad. Fountain to 1 though completely kills the deck because if the one off field spell gets banished, its game over and thats just not good. Because it will then either make the deck unplayable or make the runick players resort to some degen stuff to protect their field spell which will be more toxic
@plebugen9659
@plebugen9659 8 ай бұрын
Fenrir to anything under 2 is stupid and completely kills a card that only makes endboards slightly stronger going 1st
@Hungryfox1
@Hungryfox1 8 ай бұрын
Fenrir is stupid
@Magnamhut
@Magnamhut 8 ай бұрын
Also hurts my beloved scareclaws
@cyerye2684
@cyerye2684 8 ай бұрын
Fenrir is a no cost boss monster that can be slotted in basically every deck for free what the hell are you talking about?
@christianacosta4846
@christianacosta4846 8 ай бұрын
Nah for going 1st he’s cornball he’s cool for going 2nd honestly would prefer they give pank to 3a nd limit fenrir
@plebugen9659
@plebugen9659 8 ай бұрын
@@christianacosta4846 and against what deck are you siding in fenrir my dude. especially in this handtrap dominated meta
@chestmut12
@chestmut12 8 ай бұрын
Man hates jasmine but love runick
@thenickrider02
@thenickrider02 8 ай бұрын
i kinda agree with the banlist, i don't think konami will hit diabellsar and rescue immediately or at least not so hard. Agido and kelbek need to go, harp could have come off 1234 years ago and leaving runick as it is it's just a copium take cuz tip and fountain needed to go to 1 47 banlists ago XD
@zariygo
@zariygo 8 ай бұрын
Ban jasmine? What have plants ever did to you???
@grodon909
@grodon909 8 ай бұрын
He lost to plants once thanks to the European field spell buff and has never forgiven them
@amangill1752
@amangill1752 8 ай бұрын
He's just biased against plants because he cannot understand why Rikka/Sunavalon tops Euro tournaments. Hitting Jasmine when aroma has more support coming is pointless.
@zariygo
@zariygo 8 ай бұрын
@@grodon909 so, ban Euro then
@flamewizard9022
@flamewizard9022 8 ай бұрын
He's European so he hates plants
@Stylercom113
@Stylercom113 8 ай бұрын
Well 2 in a row win european championship thats to heavy
@shepherd7979
@shepherd7979 8 ай бұрын
Wow you were spot on! Amazing stuff Joshua!
@Nephie1984
@Nephie1984 8 ай бұрын
you touch isolde and kill my nobleknight deck fountain better get banned too cuz im as tired of the runicks as you are of isolde
@Rain90.
@Rain90. 8 ай бұрын
Don't you dare to touch one of my DDD monsters (banning him would be an insane hit for ddd's )
@maxinesenior596
@maxinesenior596 8 ай бұрын
video titled how I would "fix" this format - ban Jasmine cause he wants to riiiiight, "fix" even though Rikka Sunavalon isn't doing anything oppressive
@jinsu0504
@jinsu0504 6 ай бұрын
transaction rollback is more of a brick if you draw w/o furniture cards..idk if you played labs recently but hitting big welcome w/o max cc like in ocg format will make the deck virtually UNPLAYABLE...
@josephianijosephiani1737
@josephianijosephiani1737 8 ай бұрын
I feel like your Rescue ace and labrynth hits are a lot softer than the purrely, tear and unchained ones. For example I think limiting sleepy is too much of a hit, while limiting my friend would be a significant hit that wouldn't modify that much the playstyle. With those hits I think labrynth would be by far the best deck
@David-hw9si
@David-hw9si 8 ай бұрын
The problem with R-Ace is that the deck sucks so much in AMDE because they have no idea what they were doing when the deck is basically unplayable without Hydrant. Then they released 2 custom cards (Preventer and Emergency) that basically broke the deck (summoning from deck good who knew?) I think Emergency to 1-2 is inevitable. Maybe Emergency to 2 and Preventer to 1 is a good compromise over Emergency to 0-1. I don't know that much about Lab but it seems to have the same issue, to a lesser degree, TAMA Lab is playable but it just isn't good, so they printed more custom cards in Lady and Big Welcome in PHHY. Same dilemma that the decks would probably suck if you over hit either of them (especially Big), but too good if you don't.
@sandymichelle8953
@sandymichelle8953 8 ай бұрын
Just ban Preventer
@355luca1
@355luca1 8 ай бұрын
The only problem in vanquish soul if fenrir goes to 1 is that you can't search an earth with fenrir if you need that and that if you search rise-heart you can't use his effect (if you need to go BIG EYE) unless you play a wider kashtira package but would still be strong with wraithsoth
@MrAjani1995
@MrAjani1995 8 ай бұрын
This is a format where you just play your best deck or your favorite deck and try and make something shake
@ky...
@ky... 8 ай бұрын
Runick's only not topping because it's not being represented. people don't like it in the TCG. it's also very difficult compared to other t1 strats. definitely needs to go as it punishes good deckbuilding, deck out is a frustrating win con, and it offers too much consistency.
@nbafanboy1967
@nbafanboy1967 8 ай бұрын
If a deck is not being represented already, why would they hit it? Doesn't really make sense. Also Runick alone isn't doing anything, it was the combination of Bystials & Runicks that Josh won with and the bystial package played a big part in that.
@ky...
@ky... 8 ай бұрын
@@nbafanboy1967 because it's unhealthy for the game and/or to sell newer products. Runick was hit previously alongside Naturia with Runick Naturia having low representation in the format as well.
@nbafanboy1967
@nbafanboy1967 8 ай бұрын
@@ky... how is it unhealthy for the game if nobody is playing it though? Again doesn't make sense. If it was such an abusive/over powered strategy, I'm almost positive more players would play it but it's not. It honestly just seems like you have issues with the deck personally.
@therealPayne
@therealPayne 8 ай бұрын
Bring back Colossus, limited in the OCG and MD and the card does nothing. Absolutely no reason to keep it banned.
@alexanderthomas4425
@alexanderthomas4425 8 ай бұрын
Lol I was playing master duel yesterday and this dude goes Drident pass I’m like ok
@mosesk8138
@mosesk8138 8 ай бұрын
calamity unlimited and emergeny on 1. youre joking schmidt
@vitorapollinario9335
@vitorapollinario9335 8 ай бұрын
Sharvara to 1 is too much. No reason to kill the deck. Tour guide to 1 and prosperity 1/2 is enough. Also don't want to kill purrely, put sleepy to one is over, just limit or ban the street together with prosperity 1/2 may be enough. The hits need to be on super combo and very old decks. That means: Isolde, Agido, Kelbek, Jasmine, Branded fusion, Calamity, terraforming(too many broken field spells) and Baronne (yeah it's time) Then you go to some floodgates: anti-spell, shifter and skill drain. Then you need to remember about the transaction rollback: virus, shinarui trap, Beatrice. That's about bans, then we need to go about rescue ace and fire king being too strong. Emergency is very easy, but is not even close to being enough, that deck is consistent and so powerful with the link 3 princess that i think we need harder measures. The only thing i can think of is emergency at one, and take out the link climbing, that is, linkuriboh, i:p, sunlight wolf, fire charmer and/or mudragon, take two of these cards. On fire king is harder because it is too damn new. It's kind of the same generic cyberse link climbing with linkuriboh, just add that the Zealantis otk is scary as hell. That's what i think, it's a reset banlist. Would be unchained, fire king, rescue ace and labrynth. And please, enough of dragon link. Just ban the striker dragon, have the quick launch at one and lub at one. Bring back Drindent, (not the barrage please) Red reboot, Harp and psy-gamma at 3 (just ban the fuckin omega and the accel synchron, no one is using those garbages, we strong hts like gamma).
@TrueBlueMcgoo
@TrueBlueMcgoo 8 ай бұрын
Go look at the Banlist! You were right about a few!
@somewhiteguy4197
@somewhiteguy4197 8 ай бұрын
I'm not seeing the issue with this format. I'd rather have a diverse format instead of another "meta" format where you have 1 or 2 dominant decks just running everywhere.
@mind-over-9000
@mind-over-9000 8 ай бұрын
Official Banlist changes for Advanced format (Banlist January 2024): Forbidden : - Agido the Ancient Sentinel - Kelbek the Ancient Vanguard Limited : - Chaos Ruler, the Chaotic Magical Dragon - Number 89 : Diablosis the Mind Hacker - Runick Fountain - Runick Tip - Superheavy Samurai Scarecrow - Superheavy Samurai Soulpiercer - Tearlament Kitkallos Unlimited : - Naturia Sacred Tree PS: It would be interesting that Agido the Ancient Sentinel, Kelbek the Ancient Vanguard, Keldo the Sacred Protector and Mudora the Sword Oracle undergo a complete overhaul so that these cards can be played with Exchange of the Spirit, ideally in a control deck…
@xb9725
@xb9725 8 ай бұрын
bro is making his banlist for his deck to be best
@nathannia
@nathannia 8 ай бұрын
the problem banning gimmeck puppet is that there are 5 to 6 other cards in the game that just have the same effect as gimmick puppet just a little incovenience for the branded players so if sonething needs to be done is to ban the card that summons the lock
@keevs2933
@keevs2933 8 ай бұрын
Just bring Ronin to one and I'll be happy
@aidanyoung9133
@aidanyoung9133 8 ай бұрын
19:21 Vicious Astraloud is my favorite Thunder Dragon
This sucks..
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