I am ocg player. In OCG ultra rare card worth around 7-10$. It is very surprising to me that simple bonfire searcher card worth 70$+ in tcg. In OCG we could've get full meta deck in 200$(including all staple maxx c ash etc/excluding extra).and extra less than 200$. If the card price is that expensive as TCG in OCG,most of us would've just simply quit.

The argument where "every hobbies are expensive" pisses me off because yes i have more than 3k€ worth of musical stuff but it will never fall down to like 20€ because of a musical powercreep

Personal experience right here: I've been playing Yu-Gi-Oh through Master Duel and Duel Links for about 4 years and I have never touched the TCG but always wanted to get into it. I'm also a big fighting game fan for more than a decade and, when Vanquish Soul was announced, I saw it as a perfect opportunity to start playing, I loved how the cards played around with fighting game tropes (Specifically the Marvel VS Capcom series). To my surprise, I was completely blown away by the prices of the cards themselves, I wasn't even planning on going to locals or anything, I just wanted to collect the cards, so staples weren't even included. So yeah, I guess I'm just another example of someone getting gatekept from even collecting the cards

I want the pokemon system. Print all cards in several rarities and shortprint the highest rarity. In which we could also have something like full arts which people still want to get over commons.

We need to get the OCG threatment. Nice rarity prints + common/rare prints as well I'm not a rarity player, i don't care if 90-95% of my deck is made with common rarity cards, i just want to play

s:p and ty-phon felt like a design philosophy change to make going second generically better and create more grind games, it makes no sense to me that they'd gatekeep that behind a paywall when s:p would've still hit £20 as a super rare like magnamhut was, and would actually incentivise the general playerbase choosing to buy product, there's no point buying a box as a player when the only things you know you're getting a playset of are the useless commons

I think the reason the rarity collection only came up now is probably as an entryway for people to transition from Master Duel to paper play. I think that's one thing they've been trying to cash in on, but have been struggling with due to the obvious difference between a (mostly generous) free to play model and a (mostly predatory) pay to win model.

And people wonder why some of us like playing MD instead of playing tcg. MD does have its issues but at least my T1 MD deck doesnt cost me a third of my monthly rent.

As a vendor, I open 3 cases per set (if the set is good), and make about $200 - $300 profit per case through singles. I opened a case and a half of Rarity Collection and made $1000 profit. The set was insanity.

2:00 Arguments like "Oh it was worse in X format" reminds me of old people saying that we shouldn't have student loan forgiveness because they were able to pay off they never got loan forgiveness for their education.

I'm from a third-world BEM country. Thanks to my career, I moved to Japan to get my doctorate and then got a job in academia. Before coming here, I sold my entire TCG Yu-Gi-Oh collection back home. It consisted of an Invoked Shaddoll deck, with Shaddoll structure loosies, a fully optimized Swordsoul deck, 20-25 other non-engine cards and 6 speed duel deck products I used to play with my non-Yu-Gi-Oh friends who had anime nostalgia. I separated the money I made from this as my budget for buying OCG cards during my Doctorate, since I wouldn't be getting paid too well by my scholarship. To this day, I still haven't spent the amount of money I had initially budgeted.

The fact that we are reaching Tele-Dad level of prices is the problem, and we have higher availability and better pull rates from back in the day. This sucks, prices should be reasonable.

Video drops mentioning rarity collection and rarity collection 2 announced. Josh works for Konami confirmed for like the fifth time 😂.

If the TCG got the OCG rarity system, it would solve 3/4 of Yu-Gi-Oh’s problems. The only problem that would remain would be to make good introduction products that help new players learn the game. If they did BOTH, Yu-Gi-Oh would be in an extremely healthy spot and would see its player-base grow a lot. Good video, Josh. I agree with you.

Until now I never heard/read such good takes from a competitor/content creator in this community. Basicly everything you explained is so right. I used to worked at a local store (without the service of selling singles) so we had to THINK thrice as much about sets and HOW much we want to invest in those. And guess what...all of those side sets (Legendary Duelists, Maze's, Battle of Legends, etc pp) we ordered MUCH less then from core sets. The Rarity Collection was a huge success (as the vendors in your chat also said) and so will the next one, which got announced today. But even if I am mostly agreeing without takes, I have to bring one thing up, which triggered me in this discourse over the last weeks. I read so many times "if you cannot afford the best deck, take a break or play the deck you think is cool and you like" So one question (and I use an older format as example): I think the mechanics, playstyle and card artworks of Tearlaments is great. I tested them online on a sim and really like this deck. Then the cards come out and cost half of a rent in total. I do not really think that this would be great either, since this would force me to take a break even if I not really want to. So your argument of the archetypes or one archetype could cost more, but at least make staples affordable, is somewhat right but also not. Based on this specific example, which could come up now and then (*cough* Vanquish Souls for one of our local player) But I will say that staples need to change in their distribution. I think Magnamhut and Fenrir (maybe even I:P) are extremely good examples of lower rarity staples. Sure they all did cost a fair amount on release. But imagine they were printed in secret rare.... And credits for pointing out that NO ONE should be forced to do stock marketing just to afford their hobby.

Things like this make grateful that the format is diverse. Imagine if the ONLY decks that were competitively viable are the ones that require a $600 engine. Having the option of going for something significantly cheaper and still being able to compete is something I'll always appreciate.

This thumbnail has "I'm not disappointed, I'm mad" energy.

S:P Little Knight is still the most expensive card I've ever bought at $130. There's a Regional in my city this saturday and will shoot up to $150 just for the weekend. I didn't want to bite the bullet at that price tag, but given their usual reprint patterns, we could get a higher rarity print before anything else.

SP super is like $10 and wanted is like $2 in OCG btw, 2 SP costed u $20 and 3 wanted at $6 and in TCG they are like $200 and $300 lol. Imagine spending $500 for intially $26 cards.

And hours later after this upload, Rarity Collection 2 was announced!

I started playing Yu-Gi-Oh! in 2021. I loved the game because it felt unique compared to other TCGs. However, recently, the cost to become a more competitive player became too expensive. I decided to quit the game and try another TCG, like Pokémon, where I obtained a tier one deck for a third (or even less) of the cost of a Yu-Gi-Oh! tier one deck, and I've had great performance in tournaments.

I only play Edison format and stopped playing current format literally for the money, it doesn’t feel good always be behind in a competition because you have less money (yeah yeah once in 4 years there is a format with a budget option that makes you go x-2 instead of x-4 with a €50 deck), I love the fast pace current YuGiOh, but don’t being able to play it because of card prices it’s kinda sad

I agree with the sentiment that more people being able to play the better, it really is that simple. And although you could say things like "you don't have to shill out hundreds of dollars to play meta, you can play budget builds", it still is fun to play a better version of a deck that you also like. Good decks and "bad" decks still play powerful staples and consistency cards. I feel like if you really care about competitive anything your first priority should be everyone having access to the same tools as much as possible so that the deciding factor in a game is always skill, and not people being paywalled just to participate. Based as always, Mr. Schmidt

Itd crazy this video dropped the day they announced rarity collection 2

Been saying something similar for a year+. And with Rarity Collection 2 already set to come out in May, clearly it was a huge success. Hopefully, Konami TCG realizes that they can just adapt a similar model for other sets moving forward

My problem is that I don't flip cards for a profit because I don't have a locals near me. I just build shit IRL for a homebrew format i'm developing. I probably should've bought WANTED copies when they were 50 something, but I also need to buy food. So i'm fine proxying cards for at home play until it gets reprinted. At least I bought 4 copies of Diabellstar when it was cheap (i run a 2 Dia 2 Wanted ratio in one of my decks, and i have 2 in my Fire King deck to grab the Snake Eyes spell for my Ponix line). Although at this point, i'm probably just gonna invest in building decks for Bologna format. I could see it being the next Edison or TOSS, that format was really fun.

Joshua : *posts a video explaining how good rarity collection was* Konami 1 hour later : *announce rarity collection 2* This guy is officially an undercover Konami agent 🕵‍♂️

I just looked up the whole actual Playable Fire Deck actually cost for half a year of my country annual salary minus the shipping. NO I'M NOT KIDDING, YOU HAVE TO SPEND ZERO MONEY FOR HALF A YEAR JUST TO BUY THE WHOLE DECK

They just announced rarity collection 2, so yeah I think konami tests how good those work and will probably adapt their system in to the core/side sets in the future.

I'm a returning player (I used to play 12 years ago in small tournaments, around the time of dragon rulers). ATM I'm learning the game again with YGO Omega and duellingbook. I want to join some locals, but the price barrier to afford a decent deck is prohibitive. I'm forced to go for rogue decks or suboptimal strategies. I'm fine with spending 50 euros to build a budget deck and play around with it. I'm fine with spending more for upgrades to the deck (like adding prosperities) once it becomes a hobby. But spending 300 euros for a diabellstar engine is a joke to me. A lot of casual players like me are completely put off by prices. I mean, I like playing and I'm willing to spend but within the budget of some that doesnt play ygo as a job. Back then the reason i left ygo was exactly because i couldn't afford the game anymore (also I thought that balancing was very poorly done). I was able to play only one format with the lightsworn structure x3, but as soon as new archetypes came out it was impossbile to play. Since building a new deck (HAT became the tier 0 at the time) was too expensive, i just dropped the game entirely. I have a feeling it's gonna be the same this time around, but at least I'm having some fun online.

If valuable staples were set as lower rarities, it would actually give more incentive for people to open boxes. Many local game stores stop selling product because it doesn't sell. Well, if people weren't paying 80-100 bucks to gamble for a single card, maybe they'd feel more comfortable opening a box. Rarity Collection, on the other hand, is paying 80-100 bucks for a bunch of cards you know you can make use of. If you already had a playset for a staple, you now have plenty of extras to go around for your other decks. My friends and I came back to the game exactly because of Rarity Collection, not because of SP Little Knight. And you know what? Sure, we might not buy the 80 dollar card, but we would gladly spend more than that amount to build more decks - something we wouldn't have done had we not come back to the game in the first place.

Honestly feel bad for those trying to keep up competitively. I just have a casual pet deck and only update it with reprints or cheap new cards that actually help.

I haven't owned a competitive deck for Yugioh's standard format in over 7 years. But I've still been playing with and building retro format decks and playing the standard format online all this time because retro yugioh costs almost nothing (most of the time) and online costs nothing. I literally have 37 full competitive decks (main, side and extra) made for various retro formats and over 70 deck cores just sitting around incase I wanna play them as well as several sets of staples for these formats that aren't in use in case I need them. This has cost me thousands of dollars over many many years, but if I had been playing standard format all this time instead I would have probably spent more on just keeping up with the meta while only have 1 deck built at a time, maybe 2.

If rarity collection is so good why there isnt rarity collection 2?

Soulburning Volcano was basically an OCG set ported over to the TCG except for no extra rarities for super and ultra rares. Shame it was so niche (I still love it for what it did). As it is, TCG packs are terrible for players, a TCG set will contain like 50% unique cards printed as common, 25% printed as super rare, 15% as ultra and 10% secret. The issue with this model is that packs are 8 commons and 1 super rare or better meaning your box will have an overwhelming amount of extra copies of commons with a underrepresented selection of other rarities. OCG sets are about 50% common, 25% rare, 15% super, and 10% ultra with secret being higher rarity variants of super and ultra rare cards. Packs are 3-4 commons with 1-2 rare or better (no duplicate higher rarity prints so a pack won't have two rares but a rare and super) this leads ro a better distribution of access to rarities. 75% of the set is almost guaranteed in each pack and boxes will have like 90% of the set within at any given rarity. OCG has been with this rarity for 20 years to regular success, TCG Konami has been fudging things since 2020 when they dropped the rare print from core sets.

Great to watch this, and not an hour later see Rarity Collection 2 announced! Hopefully a sign of recognition from Konami on exactly what you verbalized here.

I agree with everything you said, and used to be an ocg player as well, but what people don't realise is that if Konami changes the rarity setup in most sets, they can't sell other sets throughout the years, as there will be minimum chase reprints. If sp little knight is a $10-15 card on average, they aren't going to reprint it in future and have people lose their mind at trying to get another copy, because it's already affordable. So this would change their whole business model, and mean they make less money in side/reprint sets. I think theyd make more money, but maybe konami just doesn't want to do this

Fun fact. The ocg set number for last years rarity collection is rc04. Why? Because its in fact not the one! Just the first in the tcg. Rarity collection was already an amazing set and concept konami had at their disposal, but for reasons 🤨 not for the tcg

This is why I'm sticking to YGOmega or dueling nexus. Like 1 copy of Chaos Angel more than doubled the total cost of my The Agents deck, and it barely makes the deck rogue.

Unfortunately mantaining the different rarity system also has its flaws, but it would be such a good move in the right direction. You just have to see the ocg. Magic the gathering is also an example of having different rarities but there are expensive cards cause of low supply. Sheoldred, the apocalypse is a 100€ card that you need 3 of in almost every black deck for example.

I believe it is perfectly OK for people to get fakes. So long as they look the same with the real card, then there's no shame saving $800+. It would be nice having the real stuff, but there just isn't a cheaper alternative.

Man is always refreshing too see someone arguing so well and really thinking in the whole picture including players ,collectors , sellers and even the company you can see the passion of the game in you.

If there are no shortprinted cards and everything is available from start simultaneously at low and high rarities like I've heard it is in OCG, that should encourage more people to buy product. I'd play IRL if I was in an OCG region.

Reading through your chat, and I still don't understand how there are some individuals that think pricing at the secondary market level and Konami's printing practices are mutually exclusive, as if the latter had no influence whatsoever on the former. I get it, it's a lot easier to point blame when you have an individual/group of known individuals at which to direct your frustration - and I am in no way absolving hobby shops/players of guilt - but Konami definitely has a part to play in this. The pricing of pyrota is preposterous, but they could have printed this thing as a rare and we might not even be having this discussion. You can build a competitively viable - meta - deck in Pokemon for around $22 CAD. This came from a hobby shop owner I spoke with about the above a couple of days ago (as I wanted to understand more). Shareholders express frustration at a lack of new player retention, yet here we are.

I think Konami needs to have a playerbase voting/survey for things to get reprinted. Then, when they do have reprints, they just have to look at their list and use that. Or what pokemon does where when someone wins, they reprint the deck to be affordable. It'll solidfy the meta, give them better reasons for banlists, and can help new people get in.

Hearing the "all hobbies are expensive" Argument just makes me so mad, like do people just copy paste it to add nothing in the argument or do they think and then say it? You know I can pay the same money for a musical instrument as the full wanted engine and guess what one of them wont be banned or powercrept next year 🤔 Also as Josh said the DAD prices too, i don't know anyone who says that and is happy to pay the full prices of the new expensive cards rather than pay like 15-20% of their current value

2 people in my locals quit the game because they said it’s too expensive now. Personally I only play rouge decks so I’m not that serious, but some people need to play the meta and they struggle :(

A lot of my yugioh boys say we gotta deal with it which really sucks. I love yugioh and it really sucks seeing it go this way, especially when you look at ocg and their printing practices.

Just a couple hours after Rarity Collection 2 is announced lol

I play for 2-3 years now. I never bought a display but rarity collection i opened two. Its so much better because the cards are almost all useful in the longrun and hold value for that reason.

The card prices are what is keeping me from picking up paper YGO. Currently I only play MD. I used to play paper MTG and I quit because of the price point. I thought about start Flesh and Blood but again, the prices are too high for me as well. I enjoy competitiveness, i enjoy tournament play. But I can't justify paying 50€+ for a single piece of cardboard to myself. Specially in a game like YGO where power creep such a huge part of the business model.

the situation of yugioh has always been quite terrible, some times staples were 30 bucks a copy, other times 90 or 90. I remember during TOSS I could play decently with a cheap salaman deck. then cynet mining came out at like, 30 $ a copy. I was a student, I couldn't spend that much for 3 cards. The only possible way is to stop buying products or just trying to have something like a massive backlash on comoney, something like #makeitcommon or similar, like japan. I hated how in cardfight vanguard in my country, for some reason i had to spend 100/150 euro for ANY deck, even if it was a tier 4 deck just because of the rarities of certain cards. We need some backlash otherwise they will never give a fuck.

In so glad you made this video. I love Yugioh but the price point is the reason I don't play physical TCG. I would easily buy product if the TCG adopted the OCG rarity method.

one of the major points that gets left out of this discussion is what does a player have to gain for their struggle to play the best cards and decks. Yugioh prizing is so piss poor players are blowing the bag for bragging rights basically. Look I play at a competitive locals with worlds qualifiers so I only see players winning our locals that are playing these decks at full clip. They buy the best cards no matter the cost, so if i want to play at all thats what I’m up against and unless I want to break the bank to compete (at my locals) I just hard lose. Not fun, and can’t even buy product to get the better cards either. And for what the 1% chance of winning a prize card.

Konami please listen to Joshua just like how you listened to him for the circular ban. 😂

I think there should be a distinct discussion between making the game consumer friendly and making the highest echelons of competition be more consumer friendly. I don't know if someone "on the outside," so to speak, would immediately try to play at a high level. There are decks that have a nice power level that have a cheap price (floo comes to mind), and they aren't the best, but they allow the person to compete. I can't contribute much to the discussion since I play cards I like thematically and I'm working on a college budget, but there should be some sort of difference between those two things to me.

I wholeheartedly agree on the issues with the rarity system and printing cards in multiple rarities like other card games do. And I have been playing other card games instead of Yugioh for years now mainly because they were substantially cheaper. As someone who enjoys playing and optimizing top tier decks, I've been wanting to get back into Yugioh for quite some time now and just playing online doesn't keep me engaged for long. While there were many decks that I genuinely liked during this time, none of them came anywhere close to what I would be willing to pay for it. Whether it's S:P, thrust, prosp, talents, some engine like adventure, droplet, imperm, ash... the list goes on and on and on and it's always the fking same. There is always something that most competitively viable decks need thats just way overpriced. And playing a suboptimal version of something or an entirely worse deck because you arent crazy enough to drop hundreds of bucks on cardboard, that could randomly lose it's value because of a banlist and likely won't keep it long term because of powercreep, just sucks. Even if I can afford it - and many others simply can't - it's just not worth it to me. And thats coming from a person that's been very interested in this game their entire life. What do you think would be the perspective of someone looking into the game for the first time? And its not like modern Yugioh would be easy to get into even if it was free...

I don't think the rarity collection model is a long term solution. Part of the reason it's so popular is because the scarcity on the market. Using alt arts as the chase on only only shifts the burden of profit on to those alt arts which in turn makes them more expensive which in turn makes them a niche market which means you're relying on what 10% of player base to carry the other 90% which doesn't seem sustainable. The other issues with that model is the bureaucracy in importing IP. The material itself is probably inexpensive but the regulations in moving the product will inflate the price. The transportation of the items will inflate the price. If Konami had a stateside factory to print its cards, the product would also be less expensive. The biggest issue in my opinion is card quality. Bonfire is so expensive because it is in large part the only meta viable card in the set. If the pack had a higher concentration of platable cards, vendors could recoup some of their losses on lower rarity cards because their customers would have am actual incetive to buy them.

When I was watching this video, the Rarity collection V2 was announced

Cards wouldn't be so expensive if we as a collective community didn't buy sealed product that is upcharged 2, 3, even 4 times what OCG costs. Until we tell Konami we're not paying BS prices, sealed product will be higher with bad ratios, which makes cards extremely expensive. It doesn't help they take rares and supers from OCG sets and makes them secret for us. That's complete BS. Wanted is a f*cking RARE in OCG-land. OG droplet was a super. SP Little Knight is a super. Why is it okay for them to be secrets for us? And why are we okay with it? Because we'll complain but we won't take action, that's why. If we follow the OCG box layout and format, our product would be cheaper, we'd have comparatively less sealed product to have to go through to get what we need. But players would be even more inclined to buy the sealed than buy singles, which would ultimately put more money in Konami's pocket. So many YugiTubers, especially the ones Konami-sponsored, REFUSE to have these discussions via video. Oh, to top it off: OCG product is also vastly higher quality and it's still cheaper. Hold up our rarity collection cards next to OCG's, and our product looks like utter garbage. The "ultimates" have print lines all over, there's no grainy texture that OCG ultimates are known for, they have no patterns or etching, the "PCRs" use cheap varnish on the card resulting in the dots coming off on sleeves, they also have no etching or patterning (it's EXTREMELY subdued), the edges don't gleam like the OCG ones do; the OCG ones straight up SHINE and display amazing patterns. Oh, and they literally lied about what our platinum secret rare was.

I loved coming into this discussion video after they announced Rarity Collection 2.

It seems like there's no end to what's been happening lately with card prices. Konami makes too much to adapt an ocg like system.

I will say I've been erring on getting into YGO for years, mainly play other TCGs and while I over time built Branded (L for paying max price for Lubelion) Rarity collection pushed me over the edge to buy a couple AGOV boxes, pulled a couple WANTED but the low price of staples made it not (completely) insane to pick up S:P and my last WANTED and dive into YGO head first with things like Fire King, R-A.C.E & Tear knowing that the shared card pool among them was now not going to cost me a month's rent. I genuinely think in the next couple of years (if they keep this up) you'll be seeing more & more up & coming players citing Rarity Collection as their reason for coming into YGO on a serious scale.

The thing that annoys me the most about this situation is how many people hold the opinion that it's totally fine because THEY just "play for fun," or "its not a big deal because you don't need to buy the engine," or "well I CAN afford it, so it's not an issue." I'm sorry, but to roll over and be fine with the blatant shitty business tactic is adjacent to boot licking. If we, as a community, come together and voice that this shit isn't OK, we have a higher chance of something changing, and it's worth a shot. But for some reason, there's people that think it's necessary to essentially defend it. I'll never understand the mentality of defending multi-million dollar companies for the sake of looking smart or being different - or "Konami notice me please :)" in the hopes of being on the correct side of some extremely minor, non-existent YGO history. "Just don't buy the cards?" - This doesn't make you look smart, it makes you look like a boot licking idiot. What do you gain by spewing the philosophy that this is completely fine, and telling everyone that they should be fine with it, is the OK thing to do? I seriously need to know why some players are fine with this. I agree with Joshua - the more people that can play this game, the better. And competitiveness is a huge part of YGO. To ostracize people away from it because we want to be complacent with absolutely insane prices/release is something I'll never be able to understand.

Did anyone notice the slogan on cardmarket for Maze of Millennia? " This Bonfire burns throuh all - even your wallet." - so hilarious that even cardmarket makes fun of it.

The Funny Thing is, that there is always that one Expensive Deck that evryone see winning and than comes a Radom Plantdeck or Josh with Runick Bystial and takes the Whole Event. 😂🎉

Josh says make Rarity Collection again. 3 hours later: announced RC 2 xD

Impressive, Josh is 100% correct on his take

As a very inactive player, every time a new set release, I think about whether or Not I should buy a card before it is too late because of price jumps. Which really sucks. Thrust is one example. As an inactive player, 70€ per copy is just not worth it for the times I play with the card. Here we are with MZMI and Thrust being a 40€ Reprint. And it sucks that I think “yeah, it is a staple, it will be worth it”. That’s what they want us to think and it is one reason why they keep practicing it like this. In the end, I think it more and more keeps casual players away from the game. I know that there is no reason to go to locals not owning a S:P or the Wanted Engine. Maybe it is just my locals, but it’s kinda frustrating. Having every card in many rarities would certainly have the benefit that you don’t have to think too hard about the market and just enjoy the game.

The Flamberge thing in twitter is worse than disingenuous, it is actively predatory. The only reason he was able to profit from his prior purchases _was exactly because other people was forced to buy high later._ It’s a zero-sum game, if those people had bought flamberge before, he wouldn’t have sold any. It is beyond stupid to assume everyone is dumb and he’s the only enlightened one. The flipping systems PREYS on people not knowing what to buy and when, because your margins don’t come from resellers/konami, but from players… Absolutely scum shit, if everyone bought out on speculation, everyone would lose with a pile of spares no one needs rotting in stock.

Here's all what Konami needs to do to print money: print good and/or interesting cards. Rarity Collection made Konami a lot of money because it pointed good cards and were generous with rarity slots. Print good and/or interesting cards only at rarities you need to open multiple boxes for doesn't make money except from the people who begrudgingly buy the product to chase high-tier cards

Playing yugioh in OCG because their prices are low is a dream. The actual prices in TCG made me to take the decision to stop playing and only consume content of especifics things around. Is sad but bruh, konami in the side TCG is trashhhhhh

People got spoiled with a diverse format, which is naturally more affordable, but now a dominating strategy is on the rise again, and thus, demand concentrates on the same cards, resulting in driving up its prices.

The whole thing reminds me of that conversation that came up some time ago where there were some reveals regarding questions from the investors in the Yugioh card game, and among them was a question regarding concerns that Yugioh has a decent existing playerbase but does not excel at attracting new players, and how the company was going to address that. The current situation with card prices is definetly NOT a good way to attract new players lol.

I got the best quote to sum up TCG; TCG Konami should be embarrassed of what they do to the card quality, short prints, and making starlight/collectors rare, quarter century rares, but as long as we keep buying it. Money hungry mothertrucker in TCG Konami is going to continue to produce this crap and load their pockets, while we the player base continue to buy this crap and then we sit back and wonder why we're getting scammed with short prints, removal of low rarity staples in future structure decks, bumping soon to be meta-archetypes with higher rarities, super difficult in pulling starlight rares, etc. But at the end of the day we're all responsible for what we buy, because we can get mad all we want at TCG Konami for making this crap. But they're gonna continue to make this crap and make a lot of money as long as we the player base continue buying it so if we stop buying their products and stop playing TCG and play OCG or yugioh games which doesn't cost any money or edison formats, they will stop making money and hopefully we will be a little bit happier.

The fact that that video dropped right before they announced RA02 is iconic

konami doesnt like giving us nice things but it would be nice to have the ocg system

One aspect that noone talks about is that if more people can play and compete then more boosters are opened in local's tournaments, a lot of people just play in free tournaments with proxy free policies cause the can't spend money. What if they can just get a good low rarity deck so that they can play in locals and locals now put up way more packs as prizes

They need to make more Rarities available in the Sets. Like not only Super>Secret>Quarter, but also as an Ultimate and Ghost. Idk why they threw this idea. You could get supers in every pack, and then enjoy a lot more Rarities. They don't need to make more staple cards super or rare or heck commons. The set's ratios just have to change. You could maybe get a +1 pack like in the OCG and that would be a guaranteed Quarter, then get 2 Secrets, 4 Ultras and 1 Ultimate maybe. And have one card as a Ghost rare chase, maybe.

When people are like oh remember teleDad, my only thought is, bro, we haven’t even got the prices/rarities for populus and princess, if they are both secrets you sure as hell bet we have another $100 card so it’ll be worse than teleDad. Decks will be like $1500-$2000 minimum.

You posted this films and.... rarity collection 2 was announced lol

I think this is a huge issue, but its rather easy to fix. If Konami just prints the cards at the same rarity as in the OCG, with the cards appearing in multiple raritys in each set, i think this is solved. We even got a example that proves that in the release of the rarity collection. The pull rate of the cards in the current sets and rarity selection is so abysmal i stopped buying sealed products a long time ago. I just buy the singles. Back in the day i used to buy a display or two, with a new set, and then buy the missing singles later. I dont think what konami pulled with centurion is fine. That is supposed to be a deck build set. At best you get 1 card for centurion per booster, and even if you want to play valmonica you arent better of. Most of the cards in the pack are just a waste of paper, because most of the new cards are locked to the single holo slot. I dont really play in tournaments, but only with friends here and there, but if they keep doing this i might stop buying cards at all and just play in Omega for free. On the other hand, if Konami changes things for the better, i will consider buying sealed again.

Not to mention, that Price change depending on the language ! Somehow in France they cost more than Germany, a card at 2euros will cost beetween 5/7 same for expensives one's bonfire was a 80 e and in France on card market they were at least at 110! WTF no way someone spent 100 e for a card. And it happen when i just wanted to start the game with fore king structure deck It's astonishing i'am nlt sure i will keep into the game if economy's like this

I think past formats are a good example of this. You can play Edison Lightsworn or Blackwings for like $100 and a lot of that is old Extra Deck cards that haven't been reprinted in 10+ years. Or, if you want to bling it out, you can spend 5 figures on these decks. My personal opinion on the problem is how bad the ratios are on our boxes. Pulling only 4 bonfires per case is a problem. Pulling 2.4 Wanted per case is a problem. Obviously it sucks that the presellers are charging so much for these cards, but from their perspective, I understand that they need to justify opening those boxes rather than just selling them for $70 on TCG Player. Changing to an OCG system will help out our pull rates a ton, which will help a lot. And the chase cards will still carry the set. I also think that we just get to many sets. More than 1 new release a month is to much, and even that is kinda pushing it. By pushing so many sets, by having to create so many new cards, they are diluting our card pool with bad cards. If they released fewer new cards, they can concentrate the good cards into the same sets, and you get more products like POTE, DABL, and AGOV where they sell on the backbone of the cards being awesome.

I wish we had a mass printed basic rarity set. Like just "common rarity bundle" with all the modern cards for a good price, not a single holo in the set. We need that budget rarity that eliminates the need to do reprints that destroy the collectable value of old, high rarity pulls.

We need multiple rarities for the meta

Is Konami the new Niantic?! The Pokemon Go Community is in the same situation

And just like that konami just announced rarity collection 2😅

That crush card you mentioned that was a thousand or so was rightfully so and it was worth over 10k last I checked but they are actually rare, therefore worth the price...

I've been playing Master Duel basically since it came out and can say that it is definitely the thing that actually got me into playing YuGiOh again. And it's made me interested in trying the TCG because as a Master Duel player, I see all these new cards being announced and know that we won't get to try those in MD for what? a whole year? But for me, the barrier to entry isn't how complicated the game is, I've learned most of what I need to know about modern YGO from MD. No, the issue I have with the TCG is 2 fold; I'm extremely timid and find it hard to like...essentially muster up the courage to go attempt to play a card game at a card shop with strangers, and when you pair that with the prices I see on TCGplayer for most anything I'd want to play...I definitely ain't trying it any time soon. And with how shitty so many of the sets are, only having like 1 good reprint chase card, I'm not even interested in buying packs just to have fun opening them. From what I can tell, anything Fire atm is basically a no-go for me, the only deck I'd maybe even attempt building in paper is Branded Despia, because I already do own a good portion of it since it had that structure deck that made a lot of key cards pretty cheap, I know how to play it, and Cartesia and Lubellion were both reprinted in the last tin. Wouldn't really have to get S:P. Seems fine, except I don't have Quem, who is $60 from what I can tell quickly checking on TCGplayer atm because she was printed as a Secret in CYAC. And then, that's also not factoring in any staples I'd want to throw in with it. Thrust in particular is still expensive, another $50-60 a pop. That's like $200+ for 4 cards. To me, that sounds ridiculous. But most other staples that actually were in the Rarity Collection became a lot more affordable, like Imperm, Evenly Matched, Baronne, Lightning Storm, Nibiru, Ash Blossom, etc. I'd be far more willing to try being brave and go to a locals if it was easier to afford the cards in paper I already know I'd need to play against modern decks. And even I bought a box of Rarity Collection to open because the rarities look nice, and I knew that no matter what I pulled, there would be good staples among the commons I could maybe use one day. That shit sells, and I hope they see that and make more products like it.

People forget that OCG prices are also lower because they have less disposable income. Japan, the wealthiest nation in OCG territory, has an average income about half that of the US. Compare to any of the smaller countries in the OCG, and it becomes even more disparate. A $30 card is the same to them as a $60 card is to us. That's why we are wowed when looking at their prices. I think Konami is doing an ok job keeping the prices relatively appropriate for each market. There's always room for improvement, of course.

Ironic that this video comes out right before Rarity Collection 2 got announced. While reprints of meta staples are always welcome, we still shouldn't NEED these big reprint sets for good cards to be affordable years after they're printed, your point still stands.

Btw the Release of this Video is funny Rarity collection 2 got announced this day 😅

Ya I think you hit the nail on the head. I only play yugioh formats in paper when there's a deck I absolutely love AND it's seen enough reprints where picking up the core + new staples would cost me less than 150-200 dollars. I only play like 0-1 formats a year, and buy 0 product. When I played digimon for a few months, I bought multiple boxes of every set, just because opening them felt worth it: more cards can be used in more creative ways and the rarities weren't ridiculous. If every set was rarity collection, I would buy so much more product and be able to support my LGSes more consistently.

opening boxes isn't profitable for competative players. Not even with just cash but my trade binder doesn't grow because the cards people want I keep because I'm also looking for the saught after cards lol rarity collection allowed me to get the bling but also offload the stuff I wasn't interested in because I pulled multiples. proportion of good pulls is a lot lower than bad pulls when opening a box and dropping MSRP on a box doesn't feel good when that's the reality

Yugioh is expensive if you want to keep playing meta decks. Konami wants to milk as much money from you. They don’t respect you as a consumer.

Ban all the good cards from last set, Print overpowered staples in new set. Short print and rarity boost those cards to all hell and ignore people saying the game is too expensive

I used to play casually as a kid and quit after high school. When I started playing again after 7 years, I couldn’t believe how fast the speed of the game ramped up and how expensive it was to have a half decent deck in an ever changing meta game. Yugioh is really the only hobby/luxury I put money into and this last set is finally where I drew the line. I like the snake eyes cards and want to build a deck, but I don’t want to spend a couple hundred dollars just to have a few cards that may or may not be meta relevant, I finally did splurge on a little knight but I had to save for a month and I didn’t really feel good about getting it. I think the different rarities/art works to help diversify prices is a great idea especially for some players that really want to compete but simply can’t afford to keep up with the game. Sorry for the essay, thank you for the video.

Pokemon TCG does exactly that. They have multiple printings of the same card in different rarities. That's how they can have multiple meta decks that cost less than $100 for whole decks. Staples included. If you want to bling out decks, there's different rarities for that.

8:25 exactly. For everyone who made bank buying Wanteds at $45, there's someone who took a huge loss buying Revolution Synchrons at $45.