I literally thought this was a gmtk video at first lol

Quality video.

Yeah. Indie games depend on making their games fun, while AAA studios just need to have their games make money, primarily through micro transactions

Sadly Indie games will almost never stop the Triple A game front, as they make substantionally less money than Triple A games and won't last long too long. Do I say support them? Yes, as some of them do deserve it (Hollow Knight, etc).

What do you mean by use it well?

You know what they say, never interrupt your enemy or opponent/competitor when they're making a mistake.

While yes the AAA industry is a huge stinking dumpster fire I do believe it's not dead and wont be for a long time. For example many big companies would have the money of simply making more games and die hard fans would eat it up. There is also the fact that nowadays many games are coming back from their bad beginnings for example Halo MCC and No Mans Sky had terrible beginnings but have now come to be really good games. Though im sure the reason why AAA games will start to be good again is because of indie devs simply doing better.

@@NoNameTaken117 "Triple AAA is a dumpster fire" From Software: *no*

@Bugg lets hope platinumgames doesn't try to make another live service Game...

@Bugg EA, Ubisoft, Activision...

Fun should be at the center of it imo 🤦‍♂️

@@GoingIndie exactly

Couldnt have said it better

Fun and Competitive is for me what a game needs. If it's not competitive then the fun can only last so long.

@@DooMS53 well, youre not supposed to play one game for all eternity

I don't know about the music part... some music in some of these indie games is just amazing.

I mean, people are still singing the halo theme in bathrooms to this day so...

A lot of games these days are just you playing as a dude in 3rd person, running around pressing E or F to interact with things, while having all a very similar action combat of attacking/rolling while the games shower you with cutscenes. They are trying to be interactive movies. And to be fair to them, at least the stories are actually good and the artistic side of those games is genuinely gorgeours, but I want to play games that feels like games, not movies. Meanwhile, indie devs or small studios are just building off of fun ideas and trying all sorts of camera perspectives and genres.

they also sorta have to be unique for some genres, like roguelites are fun and all, but after getting a few they probably seem to all be the same to one person due to the oversaturated options, so there has to be something to split them from the rest

@@mg-jf5ld That's because technology has improved now a days. In the 80's and 90's audio was very limited.

Corpo games with tons of micro transactions don't care about your wallet one bit. Good comment!

​@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342totally

Lol serious issue tbh

Exactly, when I was learning about how they used addiction-driven gameplayloops even in singleplayer games like Skyrim you quickly realize where all the emotion went from the old days just playing good games. Back then you haven´t been that much on risk (beside MMO and playing online in general) to fall into addiction. Games could be just great (often narrative driven) media like a good book or a great movie.

great comment. It IS a sort of addiction they try to push you towards.... I Never realy stood still and realized that!

my take was, mainstream modern gamers w/ their "story matter" regards its hypocrisy back 2019 amidst telltale studio shutdown and Days Gone "at least the story is good" debacle. people look for story regards not understanding what a genre and scale of a game is. ie: Darktide is a *gameplay focused lore heavy coop survival fps (akin to L4D) AA eurojank title,* id be story-wise for something players to digest as a form of direction. being so enclosed to linear derivative titles that it hinders gaming literacy for being so invested for story/ subjective emotional values that you can't tell the objective aspects of a game. Ghost of Tsushima implementing _composed movement_ (as inspried by akira kurosawa) for its *dynamic environment* as a form of *visual language* and *visual direction* to its *environmental storytelling,* i havent played the game to figure that out. Elden Ring has interconnecting questlines due to *Dynamic writing* that respects players choice and freedom, and rewards players curiosity. a *culmination* of Fromsoft seeing its roguelike (demonsouls & Bloodborne) aspect for its seamless interior exploration and scale, and an *amalgamation* of open world rpg's. rare for an *_eastern_* open world *_soulslike_* ARPG title. also its underrated not even praising GOWRagnarock for its enemy variety and combos added in the combat palette, how they implemented combat in every interaction since how dynamic the playing field is w/ added verticality that made the game more engaging. for a story driven linear titles being gameplay-wise, it respects its genre for being an action adventure.

You forgot one thing though. The """AAA""" industry doesn't want to sell games to you. They want to sell them to little Timmy who has mommy's credit card. "Bobby next door has the new call of duties. Why can't I buy it mommy?" Wish I was kidding. They want to sell to a market that has zero market experience and little (if any) impulse control.

Except all the indie developers are slowly being bought up by companies like Tencent. Perfect example is Darktide: phenomenal core gameplay, ruined mechanics and game systems however make it unplayable. It's just inevitable that all indie devs end up down the same path eventually and I just pity people at this point who think otherwise.

@Arnox That's exactly why they sell such things to them. 1.) Have zero impulse control 2.) Its easy to make them spend massive amounts of money because it's literally not theirs so why would they give a fuck about it? 3.) They are easy to manipulate and control with psychology, as Fortnite has shown with its predatory FOMO practices. It's honestly genius when you break it down, they target the largest part of the population that plays games that are also most psychologically vulnerable to turn into addicts and gamblers because of uncaring parents. Welcome to the future of gaming. Nothing will be repaired and it will just keep getting worse. It's all such a depressing shitshow.

@@robertsteiner4696 It's horribly genius, but it's also horribly pathetic too. They can't sell their greedy shit to adults so they have to depend on selling the digital equivalent of crack to kids.

damn youre smart

Corny.

real

@@arcaneisboring7675 shut up, touch grass

I came to the comments section for the prequel meme and I was not disappointed.

I agree, I've spent more time playing games like Minecraft, Terraria and Stardew Valley than playing any game in the battle royale genre or any call of duty game after Black Ops 2.

Yes, I don't need to see a single hair in character's beard move individually in 4K HD, I just want satisfying gameplay experience.

I agree but I love being realistic AAA fun games. I only appreciate indie classics. Not the new ones.

@@DjFranz876 the problem with realistic AAA fun games is that it takes a long time to make such a game and companies aren’t willing to do that, because the cost would increase by a lot. I do agree if a company can pull it off I would rather have said game.

@@GamerTDM I'm aware and I'd wait. I just haven't seen an indie game now I'd play now like the ones back then. AAA GTA, NFS n Battlefield changed gaming for me.

You need to consider the taxes and other fees developers have to pay...

@@lewcreative Indie Game success proves that AAA greed is unnecessary

@@GameZedd01 The success doesn't neccessarily indicate that indie devs are paid well.

@@lewcreative Indie means independent so they would be in charge of their pay lol

@@GameZedd01" They are in charge" doesn't mean they are paid well, it just makes the pay better than what AAA studios pay but still not great.

I can say the same for KZfaqrs ... Don't you agree as well ...

Shame there's only about 10 good indie games

It’s easy to forget that by today’s standards of what counts as indie vs AAA, 30 years ago (which is not a long time for some of us), almost all games were made by indie studios. Warcraft 2 was made when Blizzard had about 25 employees.

@@arzfan29 can you tell me any, I’ve been interested

@@arzfan29 more. Let's see.. Hollow Night Shovel night series (4 games btw) Undertale & Deltarune Minecraft (technically started out as an indie game) Any Puppet Combo game (better than most AAA horror games) FNAF series (minus security breach) Etc. Need I list more?

the model of competing for scale doesn't help either, as it creates a pressure for this kind of monetization. Indies show scale is not the be all end all of games sales, but maybe it is one of those things were the industry exploded too quickly before reaching a certain kind of maturity, together with the pace of technological improvement we had been seeing. Of course, being corporations with investors adds another whole layer of pressures. Don't get me wrong, I hate this culture of "games as a service" and associated monetization, just thinking of reasons which help this situation arise.

I would give an even less generous description of what AAA studios do. They are fighting to make the most successfully manipulative game. Fun doesn’t make anywhere near as much money as slot machines for kids.

Right, and the monetization schemes have been optimized to prey upon the worst psychological impulses that humans experience like addiction. The massive growth rate of the gaming industry was achieved by squeezing the customers dry of their money.

Just like roblox now

And that’s what’s creeping into Monster Hunter and I hate it

Ye, just like with film and the constant remakes and sequels these days.

Also the size of the game are factor that need to be count. Indie game mostly much lighter than AAA games, which now reached hundreds of Gb and require SSD to load. That’s a middle finger to gamers since SSD has less capacity and every SSD except SAMSHIT has shitty durability. Also SAMSHIT M2 SSD has the price x3-5 times the others.

@@superspies32 Durability was a problem when SSDs were newer, but it's not really much of a problem anymore. They're actually much more reliable than platter HDDs these days. But yeah I agree, there's no need for such HUGE textures like that - games should NOT be so huge, and SSDs are still expensive, so they really shouldn't be *mandatory*, even if they're nice to have. Games are too big + decent storage got much more expensive... two bad problems which compound each other.

I don't think this is a big factor. Big companies can just as easily create small teams in R&D.

Thanks mysterious NPC

Like Mob Games?

Eg Mojang

Yeah remember when The Super Meat Boy creator said if given the chance he would take the payoff from Epic games store to have them get his stuff first. Greed corrupts everyone, even the indie devs.

@@Googlesucksballs And what about those chinese companies, cranking out low effort trash constantly? I would exclude them too. They have a completely and totally different category, I think.

They're certainly not helping themselves in the long term!

They were playing russian rullet with six bullets.

@@obitosenju3768 And somehow managed to fire all six bullets at once

@Arthur Sousa. That's what happens, when you give a sociopath a loaded gun. They force feed the goose, that lays golden eggs, and then kill it; after burning it out.

AAA gaming killed itself because of people like Phil spencer authorizing incompetent leadership to push out garbage over and over. You wanna know what’s funny? The original teams that developed the older games already did it (making a full game with working compoenents of the game) ……yet these modern games can’t even come close to making anything work and it’s because they can’t…it’s because of modern gaming idots are literally making the game itself be a stupid pay for licensing (aka pay for the components of the game). When it’s comes to Xbox. The real problem is Phil spencer. Phil spencer wasn’t in a leading position at Xbox during the early 2000s or aka the golden days of entertainment (just like how 343 wasn’t in no control of halo back in 2007). Phil spencer and 343i literally have the same story. 343i took over halo and destroyed it and……Phil spencer was promoted to the highest position of Xbox and he destroyed Xbox/still destroying Xbox console by injecting mouse and keyboard support into console controller only environments, forcing cross play with PC cheaters, making console ppl pay for Xboxlive but give xbl to PC ppl for free, lying to the public by adding a useful feature then randomly taking it away and more importantly allowing people like Bonnie Ross to push out garbage games and ruin the franchise for 11 years straight with no discipline Phil spencer gotta go. He’s been ruining Xbox for 11 years straight. He literally watched halo “their flag ship game” go down hill and he has every power to stop that incompetence. All Phil spencer cares about is pushing garbage gamespass subscriptions filled with half made games that’s still filled with microtransaction and X cloud BS and this pc inclusion Xbox bs stuff. The Xbox series X is literally garbage compared to the 2015 Xbox one. The 2015 Xbox one literally came with useful features like snap tv, local LAN streaming to your Xbox and more. The latest Xbox (series X) can’t even do that stuff because they Microsoft freaking sucks. Bonnie Ross, Kiki wolf and frank are just puppets….as you can see their departure have no effect. The real problem is Phil spencer. One last problem is that y’all keep voting blue. The early 2000s (2000 to 2007) was literally all red…..GET IT. LOOK IT UP. everything went downhill when Obama got elected and when Obama started pushing those polices. Obama ruined the country and we are still dealing with the outcome til this day. STOP VOTING FOR DEMOS…..as you can see when demos are in control…everything literally goes backwards.

That is because the indie games tend to have a much smaller community whereas aaa games tend to have much larger communities.

Hey since you like indie games if you want a recommendation, a good one would be Little Nightmares 1 and 2. A lot of effort and heart put in the atmosphere and thought provoking issues you need to solve to survive and progress. I recently got both games plus DLC for $15 so if you want to save money just wait till summer or new years sales.

all of those "indie" games you mentioned are overrated as fuck and suck so bad lmao

I decided two weeks ago to only play indies and I’m never going back, they are just so interesting for example hollow knight. Cherry had to be on crack

@@Jeremy-bt8lo another few i played are Spelunky 1&2, Slime Rancher 1&2 and The Isle

Don't forget Dead Cells

Some big companies can basically make the crappiest thing that can barely be considered a game and still make money because of brands.

I think that the thing is that in that time those companies worked very very differently, and they didn’t have a brand already made. Now, there are lots of brands that are very known and have an audience, they don’t have to do a product that people will buy or recommend because there are lots of people that are going to buy it just because is pokemon, Halo, Call of duty etc etc.. without minding how the game really is. There is a trend of people buying these games and barely playing them, but they still buy them because is the franchise they love. I think that they should not have so strict deadlines for game releasing, game development should not be so rushed and crunched. For the sake of creativity and the wellbeing of people working there. Indie developers usually can take their time releasing the game. In the case of the Scarlet and Violet Pokémon game I am sure that people would still buy the game even if it was released later. But they thought about the best time for sales and not about the time the developers needed.

The games back then also didn't cost $100+ million dollars to make. These new AAA titles can't afford to flop, so the designers panic when facing the bean counters and management and don't take risks in producing something new and innovative. They rather stick to safe.

While there are still a couple good AAA developers such as fromsoftware I'd agree with your point that almost all of them are just chasing the money

And yet it still keeps working. What does that tell you about us? It tells you that these companies know exactly what we want, because we wouldn't keep buying it if they didn't. They're not stupid, we're stupid.

I know this is hard to swallow, but most people buying those games actually have fun playing them. Liking something you dont doesn't automatically make someone an idiot who can't control themselves, they just have different preferences than you do.

Its marketing and ads..

@La0bouchere I'm at around 6:00 mark in the video, they just said halo 4 made 400 million usd, but people who bought it didn't love it as much as the previous games... So... I think OP has a point. The hype around the game was responsible for the game's enormous sells, not the game itself. This is why pre purchasing is wrong in my opinion, it's because you are basically saying "I'm buying whatever you are selling" to the companies...

I mean, people are starting to hold them accountable. Just look at what's going on with the Battlefield series

"Oh I fEeL bAd FoR tHeM bUyInG tHeSe StUfF" Let them be, they're not your concern.

Well said! Thanks for the sub!

If you have the reflexes, i suggest dead cells too. But it's more for gameplay as the story is basically non existent

If you want to chill a bit. Stardew valley is a must. Its an amazing game. I suggest you try to play vanilla at first, and then try to customize it with mods like automation( i think that is what ut is called). Just dont install mods that add pressure or anything like that

u should try souls series. at its core, its basically a classic masterpiece

@@pianissimo7121 French guy here. Play with Boulangerie in food parameters. This game is french. Even if you're not, do it for the meme. And if you're french... "But alors, you're french ? Merde !"

The ones that finish

I wonder what about their lifes during those periods

risking your money for early access projects but some are finished. I think majority of my games I bought were formerly early access and it got out of EA.

Also some of them have the mentality that bugs come first and new features later resulting in every release being playable basically without bugs.

These problems with gaming can be traced back to capitalism and its flaws. "AAA" titles are privately owned by multi-billion dollar companies that put more time and effort into profit, which is micro-transactions, unllike indie games which are mainly made as a passion for the product instead of money.

The multiplayer battle pass era is why the only AAA games i play are single player story games like God of War, The Last of Us, Until Dawn, Elden Ring etc.

Ratchet and Clank 👌 Ghost Recon 👌 CoD 👌 God of War 👌 Jak and Daxter 👌 such an awsome mix between AAA and indie games back then. Nowadays there's no variety, it's just FIFA after FIFA, Call of Duty after Call of Duty. Rockstar trying to make ANOTHER grand theft auto. We don't need them. The gaming industry need.... in fact! The gaming industry want something new. This is why I find myself playing the similar games all the time, it's because there's nothing new being made, no new ideas. I don't really care if its indie or triple a games, I genuinely just want something new and fun. If developers can recapture what it felt like to play ratchet and clank, COD with your mates, or even like Elden Ring has done this year that's when gaming will have reached its peak.

@@AbeHopwood if there’s one thing I’d disagree with, it’s probably gta6, I’m actually exited for that, there sure as hell taking their time 😅 but yeah

@@AbeHopwood It makes me sad that Activison wants another CoD game instead of making a 4th Spyro game. We already have a million CoD titles already.

@@zachtwilightwindwaker596 Or that Ubisoft is making the how many assassin creed game and leaving rayman and prince of persia (ok this one is getting a remaster, but its been 14 years) in the dust.

@@WEIRDxGRIM I actually like Assassin's Creed. Was Prince of Persia basically the precursor to that?

The series needs more sea shanties

@@mattsterh7740 Agreed. The sea shanties were so good.

And now they won’t ever complete the assassin creed series until they’ve ruined it with sequels.

Tbh thats one of my the main reasons i disliked AC 3 back then when i was still a huge fan of the series It was the first game in the series that made me think "....damn this aint that fun" Why bother with a huge world that is just empty And for me black flag was the final nail on the coffin that made me drop the series Pirate game good and all but i expected an AC game which it really wasnt so i was thoroughly disappointed But lookin at the series state since unity im glad i never went back

@@0685ukoM Yeah, I think people don't realize that AC4 is the beginning of the franchise's shift from an action-stealth game to action-adventure with stealth being in the sidelines. Like legit, unless the game forces it on you, there's literallly no consequences for going guns blazing. Most often than not I've seen people blaming it on Origins or Syndicate.

2019 - a Japanese PS4 crossover game, a grand finale of 20 year running "Act 1" of a series 2020 - a VR shooter, a midquel of an old series after 13 years

@@KirikkSiSq crazy

@@KirikkSiSq god of war ragnarok was pretty good though and elden ring

Aside from fallout 4 and skyrim, I've pretty much been playing just indie games for a while, too. Things like Hollow Knight, Celeste, and Teardown (I think that is an indie game), are all much better than almost every new AAA game

@@loivaldes5414 I have Omori on my wishlist, I've thought about getting Hades, and while I haven't played undertale, I know a lot about it. I'll still get it eventually, though. The unfortunate part is that a roblox game somehow managed to spoil a major event that takes place in Omori. I was not happy

They only care about money and themselves. They don't care about the consumers or their interests. They just know that they could use a popular IP title and get easy money that way. Fucking Disney and EA been doing this for the past 15 years.

I second this

agreed or A-Greed

The infamous caviera main godlynoob himself

But indie games are short, generic & never have much content at all. I genuinely don’t understand why everyone loves indies when there is so much shovelware you have to fight through to find something thats mediocre at best

i'm a younger Gen Xer (born 1979) here and i also find myself playing mostly indie games these days.

Zoomer here and the majority of my games are either indie or "single-A" (Games with less 'style' than Triple A but can hold their weight, but are larger than indie ones) such as Hotline Miami, Defcon and Payday

Another Zoomer here and as the last guy said Indie games make up most of my steam library(mostly cus I can't afford most games anyway AND I play on mac) and still hold their own to more "developed" games. Heck even Roblox has better games.

A younger milennial here (1994) and I prefer the play Indie games over AAA games for a single reason. Cash grab vs Passion, we all know which is which. I prefer games too that were made with passion and love for product. One example would be, whilst being a fan of Pokémon as long as I can remember, Gen V was the last I ever bought, after that never played a mainstream game again and ended up wandering in the territory of the fan games. This was the first step I took to preferring indie games and fan games over AAA game companies and I am very happy I did. Question to everyone here who read my command, how did you get into Indie games over AAA games? Edit: Grammar

@@DogeickBateman single A games was never a thing. the tripple A term originates from a specific book publisher . they rated their books as single (a) , double(Aa) or triple (Aaa) as a marketing tool rating to sell more books , no books were ever actually rated as double or single , they did this to have the appearance that all their books were superior quality books. then much later the American Automobile Association, used AAA as their logo , as a means to suggest their road side assistance was "superior quality" (of course it also happened to be their initials). playing off that book publisher's use of tripple A. it's modern use in games just means that the game was developed by a medium or large industry studio . again drawing off the idea that tripple A means the game is superior in quality. this practice started after the 1983 video game crash , again as a way for various game developers to suggest their game's arn't shit. like many of the games that cause the 83 crash. but there never has been a system of single or double A game ratings. PS On that note , tripple A is a term i'd like to see disappear from the game industry , as clearly not all major studio games are "superior quality" infact, of late there's been more and more major studio releases that were utter shit. quality is clearly not big studio's focus any more. and ther term jsut contiues to be amarketing tool for them as well. becasue of the mental link with "superior quality" .

Everything is a craft. Life is craft. People cruising it just to make money ate wasting their time.

Most things are business.

Part of the issue is that second part. Tentpole projects are supposed to cover riskier projects, but if companies aren't taking risks and are only relying on tentpole projects, they are going to eventually get stale. The lack of new IPs to fall back on when this happens gives us what we have now.

Tentpole won’t hold shit if it’s made from paper and tape. You still need a reasonably good product to hold up the tent.

Yeah. Remember the Ant Simulator dev? The guy spent all his Kickstarter money on alcohol and women.

Don't forget the countless Kickstarter scams by indie devs. People seem to forget that Team Cherry was just the only team in a sea of thousands who weren't scammers.

This is why I wanna tell everyone praising these indie devs that once upon a time, Activision was once a indie company much like these people, and look at the monstrosity they've become, they're even worse than the company they split from.

Just plain old survivorship bias, no? Additionally, I'd say the "fun" ideal itself is a false flag. What is fun? What constitutes fun? How does one quantify fun? Wouldn't high engagement be indicative of a fun game? Review scores? Sales? Games are art, so I'd say discussions should treat it as such and not zero-in on some nebulous rhetoric of "fun" which leads to empty talk, really.

Yeah there are plenty of crappy derivative indie games created with the intention of making a quick buck. The cover art will be decent to beautiful while the game itself is crap. We'll definitely see more of this as tech bros try to replace human storytelling and art with awful AI generated stuff to make as much money for as little effort as possible.

Definitely! Id Software have handled their games very well. The whole Mick situation has more to do with Marty Stratton, the business guy. Even Mick himself told the fans who came to his defense to not punish the games or any of the developers because they had nothing to do with it.

Definitely not iD software.

​​@@juancarlosalonso5664 okay, they dropped the ball on the second DE DLC, but besides that they have a fantastic understanding of their players

I mean, from a Dark Souls fan, Fromsoftware just keeps publishing the same game, with the same sounds, models, textures and animations. It's hard to disappoint when you just dish out an "upgraded" version of your first successful game. I like what they make, I really do, but I don't feel like they should be taken as an example. The souls community would like anything with Myazaki's name on it, they even liked DS2 before it was revealed to a wider public that he had no part in its develpment.

@@giulioceresini1435 Eh, Bloodborne, Sekiro and Elden Ring?

the system is rigged Not by nature, it's the legal frameworks around out economy and buisness that cause this mess. And it's not just in video games, this is happening everywhere. The pursuit of money above all else. They litteraly made it illegal for publicly owned companies not to do so but even ignoring that all the incentive structures lead to it as well.

Yep!! it makes sense as you said - the companies that just focus on making enjoyable games wont make enough money. Big game companies should make a "oldschool games" department, a small team that is given ample time and resources to create groundbreaking new idea games like the ones from the past.

Is it sad or easily predictable with admittedly a lot of assumptions about thermodynamics, human nature, and the profit motive? Why does anyone make free games? And why are they usually subjectively better? AAA companies clearly hate competition, innovation, and risk (and the creators and the players, too), despite what capitalists economists will say, precisely because it eats into profits and, if that's *why* you're doing something (rather than sharing fun), you're either not going to do it or the product will be worse than boring: it'll be addictive. Here's to making a better system together. One that actually works as advertised.

Capitalism just ruins everything. It ruined the movie market, too. How many good movies are released nowadays? So incredibly rare. It's just all about the money now

AAA gaming killed itself because of people like Phil spencer authorizing incompetent leadership to push out garbage over and over. You wanna know what’s funny? The original teams that developed the older games already did it (making a full game with working compoenents of the game) ……yet these modern games can’t even come close to making anything work and it’s because they can’t…it’s because of modern gaming idots are literally making the game itself be a stupid pay for licensing (aka pay for the components of the game). When it’s comes to Xbox. The real problem is Phil spencer. Phil spencer wasn’t in a leading position at Xbox during the early 2000s or aka the golden days of entertainment (just like how 343 wasn’t in no control of halo back in 2007). Phil spencer and 343i literally have the same story. 343i took over halo and destroyed it and……Phil spencer was promoted to the highest position of Xbox and he destroyed Xbox/still destroying Xbox console by injecting mouse and keyboard support into console controller only environments, forcing cross play with PC cheaters, making console ppl pay for Xboxlive but give xbl to PC ppl for free, lying to the public by adding a useful feature then randomly taking it away and more importantly allowing people like Bonnie Ross to push out garbage games and ruin the franchise for 11 years straight with no discipline Phil spencer gotta go. He’s been ruining Xbox for 11 years straight. He literally watched halo “their flag ship game” go down hill and he has every power to stop that incompetence. All Phil spencer cares about is pushing garbage gamespass subscriptions filled with half made games that’s still filled with microtransaction and X cloud BS and this pc inclusion Xbox bs stuff. The Xbox series X is literally garbage compared to the 2015 Xbox one. The 2015 Xbox one literally came with useful features like snap tv, local LAN streaming to your Xbox and more. The latest Xbox (series X) can’t even do that stuff because they Microsoft freaking sucks. Bonnie Ross, Kiki wolf and frank are just puppets….as you can see their departure have no effect. The real problem is Phil spencer. One last problem is that y’all keep voting blue. The early 2000s (2000 to 2007) was literally all red…..GET IT. LOOK IT UP. everything went downhill when Obama got elected and when Obama started pushing those polices. Obama ruined the country and we are still dealing with the outcome til this day. STOP VOTING FOR DEMOS…..as you can see when demos are in control…everything literally goes backwards.

That’s what “killing” means in this context. Not maliciously stomping out competition, but rather outperforming it on its own merit, which inevitably draws success away from competitors.

Would you rather buy the next Pokemon game or silksong or hades 2 They are better so they sell more especially the hype for these two which are big competition for other games as their consumers buy these games and not theirs

@@Shahzad-ss1jq sales count doesn't determine the quality of a game

I don't think Indie game as whole outperformed AAA games, it take tens thousands non sense Indie games to see one great game. You need a dev that has both passion and a brain on their shoulder to create a good Indie game (same could be say to AAA) AAA game wise, you don't need passion, you already have a team to think about how to over promote your game to get it popular... And even if the game is trash, your developers are experienced enough to give it just barely decent game play.

@@testhekid which is why Pokemon games sell a lot and are still really bad

They could also have gotten a GOTY award buy politics got in the way. No matter, Hades was my 2020 GOTY 😌

I haven't played hades, but played bastion and I was in love with the game. You just advertised hades for me :D

@@GreedyDrunk92 its amazing how consistent they've kept the quality of their games over the years. I recently pick up bastion again and it was great to see how much fun it still is all these years later I hope you enjoy Hades as well if you ever get the chance!

@@yol_n huh what do you mean? What politics who won 2020?

@@wiseguy1512 last of us PT2

What is needed for fun gaming today is to step out of your comfort zone and try new things. I would have totally quit gaming years ago if I hadn’t started to try types of games I’ve never played before (for example Hollow Knight).

Most AAA games are focused on graphics nowadays, stories are meh but the fun is. Just non-existent

I just finished hollow knight recently.... One helluva ride

Games in general don't suck, but ones made by the big companies tend to.

@@bestaround3323 Which also tend to be the most popular games unfortunately.

Agreed. Ultimate Chicken Horse has that feeling to it as well.

Destiny gave me some of the best gaming memories and friends ever.

Sonic Mania: 🤨

since ppl are putting good games made with actual passion here ill put mine here too Deep Rock Galactic

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Even back in 2011 we already started seeing the hand holding and "retard"-proof game design that became a foundation for subsequent triple A single player game development that now focus on accessibility and appeal to the lowest common denomintor rather than innovation. And then out of nowhere Dark Souls/Demon Souls came out and it was a completely new experience with innovative mechanics that not only didn't hand hold but almost went out of its obfuscate itself so that the player would have to figure everything out on his own. It harkened back to old school game design that you saw in games like OG Zelda and Metroid. It was more of cult hit that like a slow rolling avalanche became bigger as the years went on and it didn't really break into the mainstream so while it influenced the heck out of indy game development, it didn't really have an impact on the AAA. Hopefully with the success of Elden Ring we now see Xbox and Sony push their studios and partners into being a little more creative and innovative.

Yes

Santa Monica Studio too. Their God Of War series is just solely dedicated to fun gameplay and stories. No micro transactions whatsoever

And they made the money too. So it paid off.

Fromsoft definitely became one of the more trusted dev studios that cares about the quality of the games and making them fun.

Wow. 300k views on someone’s first video is crazy.

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@@Clyde0000 well deserved, it's a well made video

No way! First video?! I would have never guessed. Great sound mixing, clean editing, and great script. Very impressed.

@@Clyde0000 443k views atm, gg!

same thing could be said about so many games. It doesn't matter if it's AAA, indie or in between if a developer is making a game primarily for profit then the player suffers

Does it really have "untapped potential"? The potential seems pretty tapped to me

The other issue that I have with 343 with Halo is a huge reason: They don't respect the source material. Nor the origins of the main character and his development. Halo is controversial among humanity; you have a military entity kidnapping six-year-old children and raising them as soldiers. They have the families think their kids died (it's way too complicated and irrelevant to explain), and they had the Chief and 32 other Spartans from that. Chief is the main character of the series. There's a MAJOR shift in tone from Bungie to 343. Suddenly it's no longer focused on the atmosphere and the characters, the lore, the Flood, and the Covenant. Halsey has maybe two scenes (excluding narrative) in Bungie, except the books, which show her as a professional scientist who handles the Spartans as her children and carries the guilt of her decisions. Suddenly, it's all about Chief. Him grieving over Cortana, he tries to find her, but the lore disappears, and the Covenant are either complete villains who, in the core of 4, hate humans again (yes, I know it was a rogue branch), or they do a handful of cutscenes. Halsey is turned into a monster who robs from the cradle and needs to be either persecuted or executed depending on when she turns her back on the humanity she's trying to save and risks everything for revenge. The Spartan II’s are suddenly doing work that is way below them and are the most chatty freaking people on the planet (they are usually as quiet as Chief), and don't care about their mother (Halsey) MISSING A FREAKING ARM!!!! And the V’s, the fucking V’s.... The prominent replacement II’s from the perfect background that they tried to panhandle in so they could strip away what made Halo so great in the first place and wash their hands of what they didn't like. Could you not get me into the television show? Trust me, save yourself. I loved Halo; I loved the lore, I loved the characters, and the interactions (the grunts trash-talking about the soldiers and them insulting the grunts back is my favorite dialogue) and it was stripped away because the studio hates what Halo was. It is just sad.

@@SaraNightfire1 As someone who only read the first 2 books and played the original 3 games (also most of reach), I was confused as hell trying to figure out when the show was set. Ok they know about spartans, must be post games. But wait why have they never seen the covenant? Oh it must be based pre first game and somehow the super secret spec ops group (spartan program) is known on this backwater place.... But wait that thing (that somewhat looks like a fat elite) is calling chief "demon" (which I believe only began somewhere in the first or second game)? Maybe I misremembered and that happened in the book before the assault on reach...? Oh wait captain keys and his daughter are black, they just don't give a fuck. Got it, g'bye. I know there's way more to tear apart, cause it kept playing while I was ranting at the screen, but I knew what kind of producer was responsible at that point.

I call the television show the biggest, most enraging slap to the face of fans and myself I have ever seen. Yes, I know it's not canon because the fans were out for blood in the first trailer. It still does not explain the pure, vile, utter bullshit of the television show. I have seen other fandoms destroyed, and I have seen worse adaptations. I have even seen more insulting transformations of a fandom. I have never, ever seen an adaptation that spits so hard in the lore that there isn't ONE SCENE that doesn't have an issue, that doesn't have a problem that goes against what made Halo so great; that didn't fucking piss me off. And I never watched a moment of the show; this was from watching several podcasts and a complete breakdown of the series. This isn't just Halsey being (again) noted as a sociopathic monster; this isn't Cortana being whatever the fuck she is in the show, this isn't even CHIEF FUCKING A COVENANT SPY WITH CORTANA WATCHING AFTER REMOVING HIS FUCKING HAPPY PILL!!!! WHICH IS BULLSHIT IN ITSELF!!! I warned you. Every. Fucking. Scene. Had something wrong with it, either with the lore, the characters, the utter stupidity of both sides, a fucking KID being the “hero” it's that every scene enraged me to the point where I had to pause the breakdown, rant to my friend, take few minutes to calm down and go back to the shitshow. I have never, ever been that fucking pissed about a series like that.

Yeah I played rimworld in 2019 and never again. I was absolutely SHOCKED to see how it surged in popularity and how bigger it got.

Rimworld is one of the best examples of devs listening to the community - Tynan often reads and answears threads on his game's subreddit. One of the best examples of it was after newest DLC BioTech dropped - people were surprised at the fact that there's no cross-DLC content (i.e. ideologies from previous DLC that may like or dislike vampires from current one) and Tynan said that he didn't add anything like this simply to not lock out of content people that don't have the full package. But since that was what people wanted soon rolled out a patch with cross-DLC mechanics. Another great studio is Motion Twin, from the Dead Cells. They often use steam news articles and steam forums to gather players opinions about different stuff - whether its accessibility settings or balancing. They released a few DLCs, but for every DLC they make there's like twice the content in free updates in between. And don't get me started on Terraria, as someone there just can't let go and still makes "one last update"

yet tynan just have to kills mods with each release of update and dlc :(

@@Anh-zz4go I don’t think there is a way to get around that

@@Anh-zz4go i think thats moreso a problem with changing some files,sometimes even small files in games.Even a small change might break some mods,and this is sadly true for many games,hoi4 most of the fun comes from the mods,and yet the mods break every update,its not easy to keep older mods working with constant updates,which is why someone who may have learned the basics of hoi4 modding just gives up.Too much updates to keep up with And ksp is another example of mods being broken by updates,although now there wont be any updates anymore because ksp 2.But on the bright side mods wont break because of updates anymore

Hahah thanks! We'll keep doing more of this, but try and get better and better over time!

Wow! That’s crazy! Really high production for a first video

Earned yourself a sub in just one video

after watching this and subscribing, I was checking their channel expecting to see many more videos to watch. They have the quality of a developed channel when theyre just starting. I hope they are consistent with uploading though

Same, it had a chill vibe and very entertaining

Chained Echoes is a good example for that. Have to tell everyone. :D

Stardew valley. Gorgeous game COMPLETLEY made by one person. Code, art, MUSIC, Incredible.

Also, something I think people dunking on indie games don't understand is, now a days, indie games might be the only games you can AFFORD to play. Triple AAA games are getting more and more expensive and also need better and better computers to play them. I used to be able to play a triple AAA company game in my laptop for high school homework, and now, after I've spent hundreds of dollars on a gaming computer, it can't handle half of triple AAA games.

It could also just oversaturate because all fps games are trying to emulate CoD gunplay. With no other interesting factor/world.

Definitely!! I've noticed a lot of amazing indie games out there made by solo devs (which is also what inspired me to create my own for my best friend haha). I think it's nice to see how there are so many resources and a major community for us these days, so even if we are solo, we have the moral support & feedback from other devs haha.

Also, I think the biggest part of why AAA is falling is because there is too much corporate greed, in indie development, everything is in the hands of the devs.

However, double a games are to be considered and they are like the games I also played well mostly on the indie side. I think NieR: Automata may be considered as a double A game because it may have a budget size that is limited but the game is excellent and I can go on to other single a and double a games that are made by indie devs.

@@MuriloRiFO the difference is that you will never even hear about 99% of those garbage indie games, and they'll make a very minimal profit. Because they have small to no budget, and no resources to really make their game actually stand out or tell people that it exists. "ghost games" as i like to call them, are just there. they don't pose a threat to the industry like the greedy garbage Triple A games do. There's just little to no market for them. meanwhile there will always be thousands of idiots willing to buy another CoD or battlepass for Overwatch just because they can't control their impulses, especially when tempted with bright colorful character skins or a gameplay that makes them remember the old days when these franchises were actually fucking good.

​@@MuriloRiFO That's right and remember, every triple A company was an indie company once upon a time.

@@EpicGamer-fl7fn same with good indie-games, how many people know about Oneshot comparing to Undertale? (even tho it released before Undertale)

i will add to the list omori, dont starve, stardew valley and the binding of isaac

Oh shit ye i forgot them, especially omori

Yes most of the games I have on my series s are all indie games rogue legacy is the newest one I added to my collection so far

Volgarr the Viking, Hot Line Miami, Environmental Station Alpha, and Legend of Grimrock.

maybe doomed to hell or something

look at *Arknights*

@@frenzioalberto1114 I do not know Arknights, please elaborate

no way bro i didn't even look at the channel but this is the first video this is incredble (i don't find any better word to say)

no way bro i didn't even look at the channel but this is the first video this is incredble (i don't find any better word to say)

why are people so greedy?

@@Person-tz1tk because it’s in our nature. People are greedy regardless of morality, either we are aware of it or not.

And this sometimes has me begin to confuse the line of indie and AAA games because it can be hard to tell with games like Psychonauts 2 and games published by Devolver Digital

What a wonderful comment! THIS THIS THIS!!!

As a indie game player who likes shooters, i'd say ULTRAKILL is one of if not the best indie shooter. It's filled to the brim with funny secrets and interesting mechanics, and it's hard to get bored of it with the hard challenges (notably the P-ranks)

I love AA games like Fire Emblem, Total War, Yakuza and Tales of games.

I read it as RimWorld for a second. One of the best indie games imo.

Strange why he wouldn't like your comment

Rockstar used to mock EA, Microsoft, etc, for their company practices. Now, ironically, Rockstar became the very thing they made fun of.

More on the way! Thank you!

You're right. AAA has eaten through most long term employees. Potential developers are now wise to the industry's standards and don't apply for positions

@@JumpinJoe lol that only apply to the west and japan AAA game .

I like stardew valley

Hollow knight and rain world

The good ol’ henry stickmin games

Would say Henry stickmin,but haven’t played in so long so I’m saying none.

Definately crosscode