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What’s your opinion on Amber knowing Mark was a superhero and was struggling, yet still treated him like a jerk?

@@insectostrich4407 PLEASE STOP BEATING A DEAD HORSE WE GET IT

@@slader6079 No, I’m just curious what he thinks of the controversy. It’s a problem that doesn’t ruin the story, but does hold it back from being 10/10 . However, I am sorry. I didn’t consider that some people were sick of hearing about this. So, I apologise if I’ve annoyed you.

yeah pretty much

If superman's dad was Zod*

Much more then that. I really hope the show lasts a long time so I can talk about the big twists without spoiling people. Because what the comic does with Onmiman will turn everyone's current ideas about him on their head. I will keep my mouth shut.

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I see you also watch OSP.

Bulletproof?

@@DmandadudeRex Splode The Viltrumites Oliver

it may seem out of place but this can be applied to so many characters in adventure time lol

Sokka Moment

​@@landy4497hell yes

Yep, especially in the comics, both are interesting

I’d disagree, just because I’m someone who hates superhero media/power fantasy, but loved invincible and watchmen. It really is a brilliant deconstruction. All the complaints I have had about ‘boys cartoons’ that would glorify violence and a black and white morality get addressed, thought experimented, and torn apart under the weight of the complexity of interpersonal dynamics. I loved invincible because I love psychological horror. And that’s what this show has been so far.

Maybe more Spiderman writers should use that as inspiration

It's not as much as. "If being a superhero sucked." as it is. "Yeah being a super hero would absolutely suck, but what makes them HEROE'S is that they aim to do good anyway." And the best classic Marvel and DC stories has that message too. It's actually not all that great being Spiderman or Batman or even Superman, it sucks in so many ways, it's lonely. But what makes them HEROES is that they still see the good in the world worth fighting for and put up that fight.

I think the deconstruction is a part of the love letter. Deconstruction doesn’t really mean “the original thing was bad”, just that this new nothing is doing something different and interesting with it

@@TSDTalks22 No Ik that.

I can’t remember who said it but I heard someone say that The Boys is a deconstruction of the superhero genre made by someone who hates superheroes and Invincible is a deconstruction of the superhero genre made by someone who loves superheroes. They were talking about the original comics but I think it still holds true

Agreed, if anything it’s a reconstruction. And show that doesn’t go, this is dumb and doesn’t work and let me break it down why. It feels more like “these ideals, of fighting the good fight, yeah it’s tough, but it’s worth it and works”

⁠@@TSDTalks22 I’ll be honest, I don’t see the love-letter aspect. Maybe if I read it more, I suppose.

And they are also similar in the sense that they have borderline miserable lives and really bad luck XD.

@@tetraxis3011Yeah. That too.

Well, as Kropotkine would say, “the passion for destruction is also a creative passion.” ;)

I'd argue it's still constantly reconstructionist. The world isn't remotely as cynical as deconstructions are. The heroes mostly still want to do good. The government (Cecil) still wants to believe in them. Heck, it's less cynical than some seasons of Justice League in that regard. It's a reconstructionist world with deconstructionist events.

Exactly! It's a lot like Madoka Magica- a reconstruction of the magical girl genre, showing the importance of hope, but it started this trend of "dark magical girls" that goes against everything Madoka stood for, because so many misunderstood it.

That is deconstruction mate.

A reconstruction involves keeping the tropes but explaining why they would actually happen. The effect remains but the cause is changed to be more reasonable. A deconstruction is the inverse. The cause remains the same...but the cause is more reasonable. Invincible tends to fall far more in line with a deconstruction. Buildings fall? People fucking die. Villains die. Heroes may live, but having teenagers as the major protectors results in...failure. Invincible plays with the effects, or consequences, far more than it plays with the cause.

Love me some Dinosaurus such a cool character I don't think the *real fans™* are prepared for some of the things that happen throughout the series

I’m so excited for Dinosaurus’s introduction

@@BlueBeetle1939they definitely aren’t. Lowkey they might get flak or pressure from TV audiences or Amazon itself lol

That sounds amazing. I've only seen the show and my favorite character is eve, because she's like: "beating up people isn't cutting it, I'm gonna help some farmers." and she probably ends up helping a lot more people.

@@tmnt9001eve is probably the “goodest” character, love her

I like transformers too. Is the m.a.s.k. show the same for the mask anti hero comic books/movie or different?

Now that you mention it, that thumbnail looks pretty good. KZfaqrs seem to find it hard to strike a balance between truthfulness and obnoxiousness in their thumbnails.

when invincible released in 2003 it was meant to be and written as a 80s comic in 2000. corny tropes jokes random adventures Robert Kirkman did everything to somewhat bring it back. i highly recommend reading the full invincible comic if you have the time. its an 144 issue run with extra books if you're interested like atom eve and rex splode or guardians of the globe.

I would say the look is closer to DC animations of the 90’s or DC animated of the late 2010’s then gi Joe

@@JwadeProductions7 now that you mention it, yeah, definitely closer to the 90’s Batman animated series. I completely forgot about what a great show that was. I guess I was reminiscing too far back lol

Makes me think about ancient battles, which aside from archers & calvary were all up-close, bloody, and personal. How did they do it?

@@tylersimmons4287 Interesting point, I wonder if they were more willing because it was essentially the expected way to do battle back in those days. Like, other than archers, they didn't have many options to make the killing less personal. That's just speculation on my part, though!

​@@tylersimmons4287 the truth is we have some ideas, but we honestly don't know for sure.

@@butHomeisNowhere___ afaik it's all speculation! We have a bunch of weapons & birds-eye views through artwork & writing, but nobody ever gets into the grisly details of what it was actually like hand-to-hand, when two lines clashed. I imagine there was a heavy social aspect, like in sports, your blood's up cause you're there with all your boys from your hometown

Remember reading a book ( the Iliad I think) and there was an ancient Greek battle and the book goes into lots of detail on the violence.

Honestly, show fumbles a lot and even that scene isn't without a screw up: in the comic there a page of him actually considering and rising a fist to kill Mark, only to go ugly crying (which show for some reason downplays to one tear) and fly off.

@@mikhaelgribkov4117 Not sure how|why that's a screwup. Seems like a reasonable adaptation to make the scene more effective?

@@MaurDL how making Nolan more of a jerk compared to the comic and cut the actual great scene of showing his indecision and guilt makes adaptation effective? Bare bones? Yes. Effective? What are we smoking?

@mikhaelgribkov4117 But the show does show that. It just doesn't linger on those moments because it's trying to emphasize that the issue is not resolved and that Nolan is still conflicted. His wrath lost out to love, but not his pride. It's the level of discretion and expediency that this is executed with that makes it work so effectively.

Watch One Punch Man. I think your mind will change again

@@MerlinTheCommenter I've seen it, I love it, I still hold to what I said

@@MerlinTheCommenter OPM is a satire exception.

He is what he was made to be. "Evil" to him would be not conquering weaker civilizations, not ensuring that the strong rule, and not following the culture that raised him and made him what he is. He actually comes further than anyone else to what we cinsider "good" because he is the extreme outlier of his people and culture. Other Viltrumites simply do not go off the red. He defied everything he was taught and gave up what would be, for him, a very fulfilling and righteous life, to plunge head first into uncertainty, fear, and being hunted by his own people.

*blood splatter*

I agree it was unmatched, but I don’t think it felt out of place. Just think of the first Thraxan invasion as Invincible held on to the grandma as she was battered and her flesh tore like tissue paper. The show’s pretty brutal.

Great point, now that I think about it there are quite a few more situations with similar levels of violence. However, I still think it was out of place in the context of the first episode, the show seems to have two main kinds of violence that it employs: one more straight-faced positive super hero fantasy, and a darker, more critical brutal violence.@@zen_tewmbs

@@omwda2412 OH, I misunderstood you. Absolutely, the ultraviolence of Omniman’s murder of the guardians of the globe absolutely felt out of place in the *first episode itself*, which was the intent of the show. I thought you meant that the Guardian’s murder felt out of place *in the show as a whole*. My b.

I forget who the quote is from, but I remember reading that detective fiction requires a police force that is unwilling or unable to act to stop the villain. Otherwise, what you get is a "police procedural" like Law and Order and not a Sherlock Holmes type story. That's also true of the superhero genre. Even when heroes aren't acting as vigilantes, they're often acting in a capacity similar to Holmes. For example, in My Hero Academia "heroes" operate their own private security companies and can be (essentially) deployed as a kind of militia by the State during emergencies like acts of domestic terrorism.

@@GrizabeeblesDon’t forget One Punch Man, where any superheroes not affiliated with the Hero Association are regarded as oddballs at best

Dude dusted off the Thesaurus for this comment lol

My best attempt to turn this into a comment that is written for people to actually read: *"I really love all the ways Invincible expresses these ideas of the fragility and temporary nature of human life, and the ensuing beauty both in spite of and because of these ideas. It does an excellent job of handling the different sides or variants of these themes without mixing them up too much, while still resolving the individual thematic lines to a good conclusion. The combination of incredibly brutal violence with genuine, heartfelt sentiment is especially effective at highlighting these themes and how they interact, compare, and contrast in a way that is honest to the intentions of the authors, especially the ideas revolving around the dually fickle and persistent nature of any attempt to find purpose, meaning, or connection in such an over-the-top world and scenario. The show challenges ideas of the superhero genre and expresses ideas antithetical to it on the whole, while also effectively representing many of the core concepts that make a superhero story what it is, and paying great respect to the media and materials that came before and laid the path, using them as a foundation for its expression and unique perspective. The honesty and high-quality craft of the show as has been previously referred to in this comment can also be seen in how effectively the show handles commentary and critique of mid-to-high level political and sociological issues and concepts, such as the nature of corruption by power, the failures of bureaucratic systems of control, and how important it is to challenge assumptions and systems that are flawed and backwards in order to make change that truly matters. These ideas can also be traced back to inherent connection to the experiences, struggles, and desires of marginalized groups that lie at the root of the superhero genre and its origins, and the show effectively represents these as well."* I'm sure it's not entirely accurate, and it is certainly longer, but this is the best I can do when you compress your comment with language that isn't actually useful outside of academia. No, your linguistic choices are not counter-effective to an erudite reader, however the audience most likely to encounter this comment not only is unlikely to comprehend it, but should not be expected to. I'm having trouble with it, and I tend to outpace PhD students when it comes to reading comprehension. You do not have to use the big words to be smart; you already wrote a perfectly good analysis before you overly compressed it. Furthermore, you actually made several mistakes in your sentence structure and grammatical understanding. I can forgive this considering the fact that I make mistakes all the time with grammar as an intuitive speaker rather than a formally educated one, but it does weaken the point of using this high-level master thesis language. You also missed one punctuation mark, which I am far more critical of. Your grade is an 86.

I can smell the arrogance.

Looks like Chat-GPT got a workout.

🤯

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People liking a character doesn’t mean they support that character’s in universe actions.

Seriously? Everyone I have spoken to hates Nolan.

why make him such a banger if he was supposed to be the villain then

@@hasanmuttaqin464 he is supposed to be a villain who then redeems himself..but you know he actually has to do bad shit. He wasn’t doing it for fun he was fully a victim of his culture’s indoctrination and went on to become a piece of shit. His love for Mark and Debbie actually came early on during his time on Earth but he didn’t have much respect for others. Nolan will eventually turn himself around but he isn’t just some naughty street punk…dude was a full on super space Nazi…a lot of work is required

@@tamironhill3324 like my hedonist ass could leer deeper into the nuance of the show and not just marvel and ponder at the animation

They're actually clever.

well, bro was _seriously_ cooked

Added to _the list_ 🖊️

@@PillarofGarbage One of my favorite characters from _Worm_ is the S-Class villain Sleeper, known for being as mysterious and he is powerful, dangerous, and feared. People tend to leave him alone because of how (mostly) dormant he is. During a multiversal crisis where the heroes were teaming up with some of the worst S-class supervillains (some of whom have a kill count in the tens of millions and have displaced much more) against an even worse threat (the Godzilla Threshold had been passed by that much), one character noticed Sleeper sitting on a lawnchair on a balcony, reading a book out loud, and decided that even in the face of a multiversal/multidimensional crisis, Sleeper would be more trouble than he's worth and thus he was left alone. On a completely different note, _Worm_ 's MC's father is a dock union organizer and we respect union men.

@@ajiththomas2465 sleeper just wants to grill

@@torchdreemurr4082 Sleeper especially wants to grill birds like Ziz, haha.

I read worm long before I read or watched invincible and I'm now convinced its hugely influenced by the comic. While I have some issues with it's over the top edginess and pacing (and the less said about the sequel the better) I think it manages to do something particularly interesting with how it focuses on how *juniville* the superhero power fantasy is. The fact that so much of the main characters morality is based around one of the most brutally realistic depictions of bullying I've seen in fiction genuinely spoke to me when I read it as a nerdy teen. It was at once my *exact* power fantasy and a brutal deconstruction of it. I'm not sure I'd enjoy it so much of I read it now, because it spoke to a very, very specific time of my life- but I think theres something really clever in how it acknowledges how and why violent power fantasies are appealing to young adults and teens.

Thank you, glad you liked it!

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Video on season 2 here! kzfaq.info/get/bejne/o6ynms-dnpO9hXk.htmlsi=e1Vkc4-YyF8mgpE7

@@PillarofGarbage thanks! Idk how I missed it lol

Tell me you didn’t watch the show without telling me

Except, before he fights Mark he never sees himself as a bully. He truly believes what he's doing is for the greater good. He, and other Viltrumites truly believe they are the force for good in the universe. That they are the epitome of civilization, and they want to bring others into the light. He is exactly a critique of that kind of hero.

@@Burger_Nun most bullies don't see themselves as bullies and justify their actions with some form of logic. With their exceptional life spans the Viltrimites have every opportunity to learn about other cultures, but don't and either wipe out or enslave them. "Might makes right therefore superheroes bad" is a ridiculous argument because supes live in a world with villains. They're inherently necessary and just like in real life power exposes rather than corrupts. Proud boy Omniman and his people are basically just Nancy from The Craft who think being different and having power makes them special/better rather than simply different.

I don't disagree with all you said and I feel like the writers on The Boys being unable to restrain themselves from inserting "current year" politics is to its detriment. That being said I think part of the point of season 3s ending is Starlight realizing she was being naive and giving up on her plan in favor of doing things Butcher and Hugh's way. The point of Kimiko's arc seemed to be her realizing that the V isn't what made her a monster, and that getting rid of it won't let her stop being one, so her killing some security mooks was just an explication of that. Also, how is Frenchie a "child-killer"? I feel like I missed something there.

​@@dark7elementFrenchie didnt save the children Lamp lighter(arguably too lost to be saved) burned and instead chased after lamp lighter and failed to confront him. This ate at frenchie in season 2