Another audio-related segment on the Discovery Channel's "How It's Made" show. This segment shows some of the steps in building a Wilson Benesch turntable.
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@MiharuNV7509 жыл бұрын
Sodering of wires and stuffing it into the tonearm base made my eyes bleed.
@BlueSparks259 жыл бұрын
I was thinking that looked pretty rough too... Lol
@zyriuz27 жыл бұрын
MiharuNV750 this is what they want us to do, sure ive worked with similar stuff, unfortunatley quality does NOT go before quantity. arguably these things are nikpicking and doesnt change the function but as a customer and a perfectionist i do wanna make sure it all fits perfect and looks nice. but as a employer all you see is something that takes a little more time and thats not profitable.
@naointernetz7 жыл бұрын
agree hehe
@duncandistortion7 жыл бұрын
it's just a tonearm for a record player.
@Michael-w8v5 жыл бұрын
I see nothing wrong unfortunately
@OjStudios8 жыл бұрын
Straightening by eye, stuffing the cables, wobbly motor and/or spindle. Oh gawd, what did I just watch. Still, simple and kinda elegant TT.
@SianaGearz8 жыл бұрын
+OniJon The disk is much wobblier (and thus worse aligned) than any of the wobbly and misaligned components of this turntable. Still, more designed to dazzle than to impress. Meh.
@gabrielrosales43448 жыл бұрын
4000 bucks msrp
@sellsubz7 жыл бұрын
OniJon oh this is brutal!
@cameranjoun64207 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Rosales
@njm1971nyc2 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more! Horrible soldering job, too! I don't buy into the stupid "audiophile" brands nonsense. Give me a Technics 1200 any day over this handmade crap.
@chuckbear196112 жыл бұрын
I do love it when a old technology stays around because of a feature that makes it better working.
@vicv95036 жыл бұрын
that's how you turn a $5 DC motor to a $3K turntable,gotta love those "audiophile" folks lols.
@xaenon2 жыл бұрын
That's not a DC motor. It's a 24 pole AC synchronous motor. It locks onto the power grid frequency (60 Hz in the US) and operates at a very stable speed of 300 rpm without the need for a regulator circuit. It *IS* inexpensive; in that regard you are correct, though you CAN buy versions that are manufactured to very precise tolerances. If you're not convinced, the most prominent bit of evidence is the two-sheave pulley fitted to the motor. Since the motor operates at a fixed speed, to change platter speed you have to switch the belt from one sheave to another. DC motors don't lock onto line frequencies and therefore speeds can be changed electronically. Other turntables use 24-pole AC motors as well. The U-Turn Orbit, many models of Rega, and Linn turntables all use this type of setup.
@dansolana2 жыл бұрын
and the CNC Tool is not $5
@thevinylloverbrazil11 жыл бұрын
One of the best inventions of all time now revealled. Thanks for posting it!
@4Kandlez5 жыл бұрын
Aligning the headshell with the arm base by eye when a simple jig could be made to do this accurately and faster is not acceptable.
@MichelLinschoten2 жыл бұрын
Yah you're right, it's not like they have no clue how to do that by eye doing it for years and years as a profession. How dare he to excell at the job he does for a living ...
@4Kandlez2 жыл бұрын
@@MichelLinschoten Yes I am right, no matter how good he is at his job no two head angles will be exactly the same. A simple assembly jig with two flat planes set exactly parallel would guarantee everyone was perfect. A tonearm is not an arts and craft project that can be assembled by eye, it's engineering.
@ImRichMuFukr12 жыл бұрын
Still love my Technics 1200mk5's.. Glad i bought them on sale and brand new before they went on the "Discontinued List" i love turntables & especially old & new, dj or non dj..
@Blaze03579 жыл бұрын
Very nice KZfaq video. Thank you for the great quality video Morrison. It's 2015, with all the technology out there today.. the *_record_* and it's player still amazes me. It's such a cool invention.
@AlainHubert9 жыл бұрын
@4:29 we can clearly see that the motor pulley ins't turning straight, probably because the hole for the motor shaft wasn't drilled straight in it. Moreover,@4:55 we can also see that the plastic platter is moving up and down slightly, because of misalignment. And whats' that, expensive carbon fiber tone arm aligned approximately by eye ?? You've got to be kidding me ? I certainly wouldn't buy a $4500US Wilson Benesch crappy plastic turntable.
@techtruth90778 жыл бұрын
It's not not good. No precision in its build at all.
@photosandclips94523 жыл бұрын
This is how it made - clear and correct - new turntables is wrong chose
@Stringbean4218 жыл бұрын
Thank goodness Technics turntables are back this year. You can't beat a nice Direct-Drive turntable.
@Stringbean4218 жыл бұрын
No you can't!!!!
@HybOj8 жыл бұрын
those new technics are expensive as a herd of whores, glad I have mine 1210mkII man... they are from 1984, and Im from 1983, I think they are in a better shape than me :)
@HybOj8 жыл бұрын
Delta Fox man stop talking the supremacy bullshit and enjoy your vinyls ok? silly DJ TTs... so you call a Technics turntables silly? Thats the end of discussion, because of your shitty attitude. No room for reasonable talk unfortunatelly.
@HybOj8 жыл бұрын
Delta Fox thanks for letting us all know which company we will never support, u dont know what vinyl love is, u just full of hate and shit. Nice advertisement customreference.wix.com/redbeard-bearings stay away from this toxic man. I cant even believe this is happening, you must be out of your fuckin mind man :( I hope you get better very soon
@HybOj8 жыл бұрын
Delta Fox thanks for offer but I dont want to have ppl with raped vermin filled assholes in my vicinity, nothing personal mate
@basspig8 жыл бұрын
soldering looks a mess.
@TD402dd8 жыл бұрын
+basspig When I rewired my Rega RP1 (all will eventually have to be rewired), it looks just like that, but I do have a screw which holds the cardas in place to avoid wire contact.
@aadrianogamino8 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with you.
@basspig8 жыл бұрын
Looks like we're gong to have a nearby neighbor moving in for the first time in 4-1/2 billion years. It's going to be interesting to see their reaction the first time I listen to J pop at elevated volume levels. Things are more complicated because across the road is another town in an neighboring county. So if they call their local cops, I'll tell them no jurisdiction and they'll have to call my town's cops, which don't respond to noise complaints before 10 pm. It's going to be an interesting summer.
@basspig8 жыл бұрын
17kW. I once calculated displacement.. I think it was around 1700 sq inches. I maybe in error, as that was calculated in 2006 and I'm going from memory. I do know the woofer array is 112dB efficient at 20Hz with 1 watt input.
@ethaneade49378 жыл бұрын
that turn table looks so cool
@mrhoffame12 жыл бұрын
That is a work of art!
@ricknbauker10 жыл бұрын
This is a joke, right? First you fracture soldered joints, melt the shrink wrap tubing with the soldering iron over said fractured joints, eyeball the alignment, and then try to charge 4400.00US for this POS?! I can't believe the company allowed this video to be released to the public. I can honestly say I will NEVER purchase this or any other product from this company knowing this is how they do things.
@techtruth90778 жыл бұрын
Exactly this. Shocking!
@drewscruis3 жыл бұрын
Not to mention this isn't a direct drive turntable...
@tim.honiss2 жыл бұрын
@@drewscruis Not all high end turntables are direct drive. Direct drive is best suited for high torque applications (eg in radio stations and for DJs.) DD motors have more noise and introduce more vibrations compared to belt driven turntables. 99% of "audiophile" turntables are belt driven (eg. Thorens TD160) or driven by an idler wheel (eg. Garrard 301)
@romankolosov5771 Жыл бұрын
Ill never gonna buy from this brand. This assemly dude is incopetitant hence the owner who released this video as well. Eyeball alignment??)) Im gonna stick with my Thorens 124, 126 toys.
@georgeanastasopoulos58653 жыл бұрын
A wonderful video presentation! Thumbs up. I aim to make a DIY turntable belt drive; have almost all the parts, and materials. However, a linear tracking tonearm turntable should be considered, even though there is the problem of friction.
@Richardfckr19792 жыл бұрын
Use an Eminent Technology air-bearing tonearm. No friction at all.
@dingalarm12 жыл бұрын
+1 Also, the soldering technician should be using a heat gun to shrink the heatshrink tubing, and not the tip of the soldering iron (see 3:30).
@Radfordperson7 жыл бұрын
ThorensTD124 mk2, Ortofon RS212 arm and Ortofon SL15E here, was quality in 1970 when my uncle bought it, still is quality today.
@paulj0557tonehead11 жыл бұрын
...also, I've discovered that all of the 78 records that I acquired, and wondered if I'd ever be able to overcome the shortcomings of this recording medium, I did overcome. There is a fine line that we as listeners can navigate. Actually, we as humans can navigate, but I won't get into it, all I can say is that after about 50 listens of all of the incredible late 1920's to mid 1930's music electronically recorded 78 records that I own, I began to just tune out the scratches, music is THAT good!
@TheAnunnaki-NYC11 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's what I was hoping too. Technics 1200 are mostly hand built too from what I heard.
@pikuorguk12 жыл бұрын
mmm postmodern hipster fashion accessory that'll look nice sat on a wooden stand and never be used. Belt-drive too, you can almost smell the quality ;-)
@boboutelama57488 жыл бұрын
@morrisonav : Do you really test your motors in "a test spin". Do you not have any bench at all to mesure vibrations ?
@TMIGT12 жыл бұрын
thank you, ive never been a legend in my life before :D
@1996theawesome112 жыл бұрын
depends on what type of electrical contacting you are doing. You have to solder sensors and LEDs and motors to get the best performance and the electrician is the one in charge of making sure all the electrical components work as intended
@barrywonderdog11 жыл бұрын
Forget vinyl for the moment. MP3 does not remove noise; it compresses the original PCM data file, by removing recorded signals that are masked by louder signals at the same or similar frequency. Noises (as opposed to music content) generated in the recording process will still be reproduced because they cannot be masked, by definition. That's why they are noises. Which is why saying MP3 'removes noise' is so fundamentally wrong, it throws everything else you have to say into serious doubt.
@tiresiasreviews88293 жыл бұрын
I own this TT with the carbon 2.0 arm and an AT33PGT MK2 cartridge. It is a little harder to set up than something like a Rega but once done so property the sound quality is excellent. It won't be a TT for everyone and at this price it will divide opinion regarding value for money. I was fortunate to purchase pre owned. I can say that it is very well engineered and solid in construction. Exceptionally balanced and detailed sound. To pass judgement one would have to examine it in person and listen to its comparative performance in the context of your own system. There are plenty of brilliant turntables to choose from at this price point. I couldn't comment them because I haven't owned them. However the 2.0 arm is something of a classic. Love or hate it, it will always be a great TT in terms of sound and a talking point because of the cake like design. Nothing wrong with a Technics, Roksan, Linn, Gyrodeck etc all personal choice. But mine was this, from a UK company with a great reputation. I don't work for them by the way but just like what I hear.
@SiriusXAim12 жыл бұрын
Actually, A pro turntable like a Technics 1200 Mk2 should make an interesting "how it's made" vid. Those ones are made very differently than 21'st century audiophile turntables like the one shown in this vid. Direct Drive motor, aluminum platter, the series of strobe dots, the chassis, damper feet, Pitch control... All of this is very interesting... And Unique to the 1200's....
@OffCentreDJ8 жыл бұрын
these are some sleek looking audiophile turntables
@tomwilkinson463010 жыл бұрын
Why the hell is he heating the heatshrink with a soldering iron. That's electronics 101 no nos.
@Boemel10 жыл бұрын
Yeah any pro uses a zippo :P
@maxbauer61989 жыл бұрын
Right... botch
@tealosophy9 жыл бұрын
Tom Wilkinson a heat gun would melt the silver wiring
@maxbauer61989 жыл бұрын
I dont think so because even on medium temperatur the tubing shrinks in an instant so there is no time were the wiering could melt.
@billyboi576 жыл бұрын
The soldering iron gets a lot hotter than a heat gun and there is also the direct contact with the soldering iron. Big no-no.
@classalpha8 жыл бұрын
look at the manufacturing and assembly process... no balancing of the platter. using eyes to level the tone arm How much is this turntable ?
@ElectoneGuy8 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my Technics tables.
@njm1971nyc2 жыл бұрын
My sentiments EXACTLY!! ❤️
@sashablfc12 жыл бұрын
@perpetualjon The sound wires are not exposed, they are all coated.
@BretHelmsLifeOnThisPlanetBlog10 жыл бұрын
Splendid.
@dryiceage11 жыл бұрын
I have a Stanton Str8150 and they are perfection
@gilmaringa11 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Maybe they think that the noise is conducted by the vinyl material to the shell? What you think about this?
@TroIIestia12 жыл бұрын
"It's time for the VINYL test." OH MY GOD THESE PUNS.
@6488ott12 жыл бұрын
No, what you mean is the vinyl record has limitations. Analogue is merely a form of information storage, and ultimately has no upper limit to information density. Digital has a finite predisposed limit...you stand corrected.
@gerryroberts6627 жыл бұрын
That is really nice work.. but i perfer a 1970s sears.. that was used when i got it.. like flipped a double sided needle..
@johneygd8 жыл бұрын
But there are soo many more things to test out such as speed, how do you make sure that the speed is correct,how are those wires wired to the needle. And so on. Still incredible to see this video.
@djcam81978 жыл бұрын
How long does it take?
@luisantoniomarrega11206 жыл бұрын
Perfeito, muito bom. Rio RJ Brasil
@georgeanastasopoulos58653 жыл бұрын
By the way, what is the brand name, and how much is this wonderful, super hi fi turntable, anyway?
@hoseinqadam12 жыл бұрын
the way HOW IT'S MADE is meant to be watched, in HD :D Saying this with a big smile on my face.......
@TD402dd8 жыл бұрын
I've never seen a tonearm quite like that one. I guess my Rega just uses two post bearings with shaft that don't require glue.
@AlexStavi10 жыл бұрын
What rotations per minute gives the electric motor? This is how much the bpm remains standard..hard to explain myself..
@supernintendo18210 жыл бұрын
Judging by the record size, probably 33 RPM.
@SlayerDarkRaver11 жыл бұрын
In many ways this is an elegant work :) I do not like the beltdrive, even though it kills the eventuality of rumble noise from the motor. This is because I know you can get an direktdriven turntable without rumble noise :)
@OUWATZAHLE0811 жыл бұрын
but can you scrach on it ?
@barrywonderdog11 жыл бұрын
No. Lossy compression systems like MP3 attempt to play the music 'as it sounds' instead of 'as it is'. They rely on our difficulty hearing quieter sounds in the presence of a louder sound at the same (or similar) frequency. There is a cut-off as a by-product of the compression process, which increases in line with the amount of compression used. But I think you are confusing this with the Nyquist-Shannon brickwall in digital sampling (16bit, 44.1kHz PCM files have a strict 22kHz limit).
@WendigoPsycho7 жыл бұрын
I was brought here when I read my USB turntable's manual and it said "Us of controls, adjustments, or performance of procedures other than those specified may result in hazardous radiation exposure". I was hoping How it's Made would explain why turntables are nuclear powered. Seriously, type "turntable"hazardous radiation exposure" " into Google and you'll find this is a common thing with USB turntables. I'm thinking it must have something to do with the aluminum alloy but cannot find information on what's making them radioactive or why it's there. Not as concerned as I am curious. Anyone have any idea why there's a risk of radiation exposure?
@gavincurtis7 жыл бұрын
If it is a Crosley, that is the depleted uranium that got into the chinese pot metal... standard warning. Otherwise, is there a CD player in the unit? If so, it is referring to laser radiation... if no CD player, then I suspect it is simply a generic warning overall.
@battlestarvfx11 жыл бұрын
Would love to see your "facts" on that statement. I have records from 10 years ago that sound identical to when I bought them and I have played them a lot more than 30 times.
@soundadapter8 жыл бұрын
fantastic device
@BrothersFreedive12 жыл бұрын
Would anyone care to explain what was wrong with the soldering? I am genuinely curious to know. Thanks!
@digranni10 жыл бұрын
how many rotations it have?
@JoshuasRecordings9 жыл бұрын
It is a LP record or 33.5RPM. I am not sure if it is switchable to 75RPM you would think for how much it costs!
@johncrossland895512 жыл бұрын
Whats the RCA block?
@MrKhwai11 жыл бұрын
what about the anti skate?
@Sockaci11 жыл бұрын
Damn I was hoping this was a technics 1200 turntable being made...
@cengeb12 жыл бұрын
How would I listen to the obsolete LPs I got?
@johncrossland895511 жыл бұрын
That's funny. You see the Wilson Benesch Turntable that preceded the Circle actually sells for more than it was sold for new when it was first released more than 20 years ago!
@gavincurtis7 жыл бұрын
So where are the Crosley made?
@76Gazz12 жыл бұрын
Kids today love DJing and they want vinyl decks to do it on so the turntable lives!
@mrhoffame10 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!
@ssnoc5 жыл бұрын
All cold solder connections - I can hear the crackling from here
@barrywonderdog11 жыл бұрын
That is not noise. It's more like firing half the choir, because their voices are masked by louder voices singing the same parts. 'beyond the auditory resolution' does not mean noise reduction, or even necessarily truncated frequencies above 20kHz. It means one sound being masked by another at the same (or similar) frequency.
@mpuppet197512 жыл бұрын
What brand TT is this? I have never seen one like it. Btw, all u analog haters never heard a blue note. Jus sayin.
@LittleMissEmoGurl11 жыл бұрын
wouldn't the wires at 3:38 short?
@lobecosc10 жыл бұрын
I need that turntable in my life. Where can I get it and how much does it cost?
@DjRjSolarStar10 жыл бұрын
$7000
@lobecosc10 жыл бұрын
I think I'll get a Stanton instead.
@AudioFileZ11 жыл бұрын
Direct drive reached great sophistication in the late 70's into the 80's. Problems with wow and flutter, cogging noise, and vibration in general reached lows commensurate with excellent belt drive models. The instantaneous torque provided by these evolved direct drive models always trumped the belt drive units simply due to the nature of the direct transmission of power (i.e. motion). But, as refined as the best direct drives became the best belt drives had lower rumble and as such are king.
@phililps170t9 жыл бұрын
OMG! using eye power to align the tonearm and a RS component motor with its mounting "ear" cut.
@iiredeyeiiredeye15699 жыл бұрын
B Keat There's absolutely nothing wrong with "eyeing up a component" I have worked in engineering for more than 25 years and I can tell you that a well trained eye can spot a mismatch in parts down to a couple of thou of an inch quite easily. Apart from that the azimuth is almost certainly adjustable on this tone arm.
@music955612 жыл бұрын
thats the circuit board that has the armtube wires and rca cable to amp. or female rca jacks. and grounding wire.
@acodike11 жыл бұрын
sure... those are mainly for audiophiles...
@jimmy45d12 жыл бұрын
I do love a good machine lathe video!
@scrfce12311 жыл бұрын
True and true. That's why I have an old collection that's purely analog. Buying records that have been recorded digitally and then pressed from a digital source defeats the point. Look up studio reel to reel - BEST QUALITY AUDIO comes from reel to reel. Also, if the record is clean and in good condition, you won't hear even a fraction of static.
@chrissyman778 жыл бұрын
very nice turntables, the tonearm is damn simple and yet so effective though I don't like using unipivots, they do sound good.
@Sigmorecord11 жыл бұрын
Hello. Help please. Who can write the text word for word everything that they say in this video?)))
@gilmaringa11 жыл бұрын
This is a masterpiece, but why not make with direct drive instead of belt?
@nicholassusantio583010 жыл бұрын
Just amazing. Turntables FTW!
@bodhiveeren Жыл бұрын
Have you seen the wobble on the motor pulley (smooth running?) I thought that the wobble on my VPI was not so good, Ha ha. Not comparable to any Thorens I ever owned and that were at least 8!
@paulj0557tonehead11 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's easier to understand why a person with very refined hearing and a special sense for the finer textures of music would prefer certain mediums over others if you examine the reel to reel tape. Quality tape recording retains every nuance in the music just as a compact disc ( recorded well that is), but it has a definite character which is not part of the music that was actually recorded onto the tape. This experienced listener grew to accept and adore these characteristics as qualities!
@ahdennis12 жыл бұрын
@conoba I use my soldering iron (provided its very clean) on heatshrink, better than a flame, or having to buy a heat gun! geez dont be so harsh.
@1996theawesome112 жыл бұрын
I should have mentioned that FRC is a robotics competition. We use all DC so we use solder. and electrician may not be the official term, but it is frequently used at our shop so i don't really care
@RachelMant12 жыл бұрын
Yes, the equipment's converter bandwidth matters hugely which is part of why I'm trying to say even with digital you need at least midrange gear for decent output and reproduction. But, I'd argue that the analogue part of the reproduction stage and the quality of it's electronics matter even more as by your argument we're back to pure-analogue problems like wow, pop, click, hiss, distortion, etc. Digital also has distortion, it's just at-headroom truncation instead.
@MegaBigDik699 жыл бұрын
At least the counterweight is protected against jet fuel.
@uo11478 жыл бұрын
+MegaBigDik69 7/11 was a part time job
@damon26926 жыл бұрын
I give that joke 9/11...
@6488ott9 жыл бұрын
There seems to be confusion in some viewers of the potential in Analogue data systems. Put simply, digital has predetermined, finite upper limit to its information saturation- analogue does not. Therefore if you could read the information stored in ever increasing detail, there still would be more to see.
@battlestarvfx11 жыл бұрын
Vinyl may have its draw backs, but I will gladly take those over an mp3 any day at any bit rate.
@gilmaringa11 жыл бұрын
Or maybe is a vibration thing?
@crisrobles34256 жыл бұрын
Is this how you make a plumbus?
@RadostinVelchev11 жыл бұрын
The most expencive audiophile turn tables are belt drive and even the motor is on a separate chassis. Direct drive is better for DJing but the best sounding machines are belt drive.
@jjysoserious10 жыл бұрын
Why would you put the felt mat over the acrylic platter haha it totally ruins the point of having an acrylic platter.
@hifijohn12 жыл бұрын
you're they should have a jig for that very critical bit of alignment!
@6488ott12 жыл бұрын
since you were debating the superiority or digital over analogue, it's only fair to point out that technically analogue is superior, its just the implementation that's the problem. Did you know that sound is analogue like all nature and is sampled to a finite degree, and then later converted back to analogue?- the more processes, the more signal degradation....
@volkerking763410 жыл бұрын
Oh God - this guy who installing the analogwire from the Pickup burns the shrinktube wiht his soldering iron. damn!
@noidear7210 жыл бұрын
You can keep your mp3's thanks.
@radiofun2326 жыл бұрын
on 4.31 it wobbles.
@battlestarvfx11 жыл бұрын
IF you want to get into general terms you would need a sample rate of 360Khz or better to replicate what can be put into a vinyl record. That's how much range is in a top end cutting solution.
@syugo12 жыл бұрын
good stuff. very satisfying to watch 1:21 to 1:48
@johncrossland895512 жыл бұрын
Cheap things will always be cheap. Nice things have a habit of retaking value and becoming a pleasure for the next generation. If you think this is expensive check the new speaker from Wilson Benesch. The animation....... is well ....really cool!....these guys are on something!
@theotherchannel22795 жыл бұрын
Please switch on after you put the record on the platter...
@Bandicoot80311 жыл бұрын
They haven't mentioned anything about the pickup needle!
@6488ott12 жыл бұрын
kissa 1512... not on my android phone there isnt...
@TD402dd5 жыл бұрын
The wires aren't stuffed in the cylinder like that. There is a plug in the bottom that holds every wire in position to those going through the arm. Since this type is internally grounded, there is a ground wire attached to the blue wire that is grounded to the side of the metal cylinder. That's tricky because you have RCA cable wire, the tonearm blue wire, and the ground wire that is soldered together. The entire assembly is inserted into the cylinder with a screw or glue holding it in place so it cannot move. There is enough slack going through the arm so the assembly never receives any pulling from above or below. Cardas makes a complete assembly for rebuilding the arm, but I choose to do my own. That is absolutely necessary if you buy Rega turntables because the wire is too thin (breaks) and the clips are laughable at best. My RP1 had to be rewired, and the sound is better than the original with higher quality wire, RCA cables, and high quality clips. It isn't easy, but if you can solder properly, you can do it.
@benjaminengel373811 жыл бұрын
It's not about djing at all. For djing you are correct a direct drive unit is better, but for record playing with units shown in the video belts are smoother than direct drive and allow for the use of magnetic or quartz bearing drives. For pure audiophile playing belt drive s better. Also a well taken care of belt can last a very long time, and even so a belt is pretty inexpensive.