How it Works: Deep Inside a Cutaway Espresso Machine

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Whole Latte Love

Whole Latte Love

8 жыл бұрын

In this video you will learn how a semi-automatic espresso machine works. Using a machine with cutaway components, Todd and Marc from WholeLatteLove.com trace the path of water movement through the machine. Get an inside look at cutaway components, their purpose and how they operate. Components include: E61 brew group, heat-exchange boiler, solenoid valve, thermal siphon system, steam valve, one-way valve, anti-burn wands, rotary pump, OPV valve and much more.
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The machine featured in this video is the ECM Technika IV Profi Switchable. It's a semi-automatic espresso machine with heat-exchange boiler and rotary pump. Special thanks to ECM for providing the machine for this presentation!

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@richykim4868
@richykim4868 3 жыл бұрын
The two of you guys make the best technical espresso machine videos.
@al-wilsonalino6091
@al-wilsonalino6091 3 жыл бұрын
This video helped me get a job as a coffee tech. Now i have been fixing machines for 3 years! Thanks Guys!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi AA, That's awesome! Happy to help and hope you are enjoying your profession! Marc
@al-wilsonalino6091
@al-wilsonalino6091 3 жыл бұрын
I am loving it. I'm based in melbourne and im planning to sell refurbished machines in PH. hope all goes well! Thanks heaps guys
@TheEndofThis
@TheEndofThis 3 жыл бұрын
I would buy an espresso machine from this man
@PeaceChanel
@PeaceChanel Жыл бұрын
Thank You Everybody for All that you are doing for our Planet Earth.... Peace.. Shalom.. Salam.. Namaste .. 🙏🏻 😊 🌈 ✌ 🌷 ☮ ❤🕊
@charithdayantha
@charithdayantha 11 ай бұрын
the only video in the youtube which describe the coffee machine at the time
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 11 ай бұрын
Hey cd, Thanks for the comment!
@cwsears
@cwsears 5 жыл бұрын
Fabulous walk through under the cover of the Technika, thanks for this video. It's very helpful to have a better understanding of how things work.
@himesjon
@himesjon 2 жыл бұрын
This dude loves his job
@Delmar829
@Delmar829 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this. A very well informed instructor.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi D, You are welcome and thank you for the kind comment.
@bobbuell5968
@bobbuell5968 7 жыл бұрын
cut-aways are the best
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
Yes they are! Thanks for the comment Bob!!!
@nightshift4587
@nightshift4587 4 жыл бұрын
This was a great 17min + video. Thank you for making and sharing this.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
HI, You are welcome and thank you for taking a moment to leave a comment! Marc
@rodsnyder6020
@rodsnyder6020 4 жыл бұрын
That was so awesome! Thanks a lot for these deep insights here! Learned a lot watching this. Thank you guys!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rod, You are welcome and thank you for taking a moment to leave your comment! Marc
@jasonkarriker3134
@jasonkarriker3134 5 жыл бұрын
Wow! Amazing explanation every single detail.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi JK, Thanks for the comment!
@StephenEBall
@StephenEBall 9 ай бұрын
Very good teaching!!! Thanks for the absolutely wonderful explanation.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 9 ай бұрын
Hey SEB, You're very welcome and thanks for the comment!
@abdullahali5999
@abdullahali5999 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant, I have been really looking for such a video for ages. Respect for all the team.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hey aa, Marc here from Whole Latte Love... Happy you found the video and thank you for the respect!
@mikeausmunchen4211
@mikeausmunchen4211 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this outstanding explanation video and all the effort you've put in the cut model.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 2 жыл бұрын
You're very welcome!
@HiiImChris
@HiiImChris Жыл бұрын
The magnetic component is cool
@golfbofai
@golfbofai 5 жыл бұрын
from Thailand thank you for knowledge thank
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
You are welcome and thank you for the comment!
@miguelangelmichelruggerio1128
@miguelangelmichelruggerio1128 7 жыл бұрын
amazing piece of art .
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Angel, Thanks for the comment!
@caffhuang
@caffhuang Ай бұрын
Really great video love it!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage Ай бұрын
Thanks so much!
@houshanghemmaci618
@houshanghemmaci618 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks It is very good for me .You show inside of machine and how actuator work together
@user-ok3wb5hc4j
@user-ok3wb5hc4j 5 жыл бұрын
such a great video I have ever seen. I need this kind of videos as I really want to study about espresso machine. Thank you so much for nice information!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi thanks for the comment and you are welcome. If you want to learn more about a variety of machine be sure and check out our other videos and our support wiki which has manuals, diagrams and more for most popular espresso machines. It's available here: wiki.wholelattelove.com/Main_Page Marc
@cristianiuhas4079
@cristianiuhas4079 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! LOVE my Rocket, finally know how it works...
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi CL, Thanks for the comment!
@gottahavegoalsset
@gottahavegoalsset 8 ай бұрын
So amazing and impressive.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 8 ай бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@ThingEngineer
@ThingEngineer 5 жыл бұрын
Amazing machine for such an amazing product! Thanks for the awesome teardown and explanation.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Josh, You are welcome and thank you for the comment!
@chairattangthong
@chairattangthong Жыл бұрын
I just understand how espresso machine works, this is very good video sharing Thank you very much sirs.
@CorrupteddSanity
@CorrupteddSanity 4 жыл бұрын
you guys are an institution on this subject - thank you
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi h22, You are welcome! We do our best. Thanks for taking the time to leave a comment! Marc
@MrStinkystink
@MrStinkystink 4 жыл бұрын
Great video and helpful in understanding the operations of E61 and other general machines
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chris, Thanks for the comment! Marc
@pederkimlunding3352
@pederkimlunding3352 6 жыл бұрын
From Denmark - thank you for a fantastic stream. Really cool and informative😉😄
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi pdk, Glad you enjoyed it and thanks for the comment!
@TINGSTARR
@TINGSTARR 7 жыл бұрын
Todd and Mark, great video as most of yours are. I'm very glad I came across this one in particular which gave a me a greater understanding of the internals (I'm a car guy as much as an espresso guy - gear-head as they say). Love how this evokes the Audi/Lamborghini partnership. German engineering / Italian flare. Thanks again!!!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
Hi T, You are welcome and thanks for the comment! I (Marc) am a car guy too! Although more of the American muscle car variety.
@TINGSTARR
@TINGSTARR 7 жыл бұрын
Whole Latte Love Marc, I also have a 1999 SVT Cobra which is my pride and joy. And it's a convertible. I love to bring it to cars and coffee events. Now that's living, right?
@murphyrp01
@murphyrp01 4 жыл бұрын
Great video team. Very explanatory.
@wursthans5921
@wursthans5921 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explaination. Good work!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi WH, Yopu are welcome and thank you for the comment!
@44Bigs
@44Bigs 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I finally understand what’s going on in my Bezzera Mitica.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thanks for the comment.
@GC-fb5qb
@GC-fb5qb 6 жыл бұрын
Wow awesome video that is so informative, thanks for the effort in making this video, the engineer in me loves to understand how all the items function as a complete system. Also shows the quality of the parts used by ECM
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Glenn, You are welcome and thanks for the comment!
@longfade
@longfade 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, what an ingenious system.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Zach, Thanks for the comment! Marc
@ronstar8857
@ronstar8857 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you both for an outstanding "learning" video. Excellent inside review of the workings of a espresso machine. Great to know how things work! Cheers, gents!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Ron, You are welcome and thank you for the comment!
@littleberriesalongthepath
@littleberriesalongthepath Жыл бұрын
Appreciate your work
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Appreciated
@sylc9161
@sylc9161 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent videos to learn about anything coffee
@MathewClips
@MathewClips 5 ай бұрын
Ahh now I will fix my espresso machine... Y'know if I had one ( Pretty cool though )
@AndreasZimmerman
@AndreasZimmerman 4 жыл бұрын
This has helped me so much
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi AZ, Thanks for the comment! Marc
@philipp9559
@philipp9559 5 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video. Thanks!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi P, You are welcome and thanks for the comment!
@tarikabderrahim9442
@tarikabderrahim9442 4 жыл бұрын
Very well explained. Great job
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Tarik, Thanks for the comment!
@katakis1
@katakis1 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating stuff.
@CorrupteddSanity
@CorrupteddSanity 4 жыл бұрын
Good job, Todd! Very clear.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Paddington2000
@Paddington2000 6 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Harvey, Thanks for the comment! This is the stuff we like doing the most.
@sidrungkapun2082
@sidrungkapun2082 7 жыл бұрын
thanks for this helpfull video
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
Hi JC, You are welcome and thanks for your comment!
@matthiasmartin1975
@matthiasmartin1975 3 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant! Thanks, now that I know what all that stuff does I stand a chance of repairing it. Mine has a ruptured heat exchanger, no wonder it didn't work properly. I had a hunch that I was dealing with a heat exchanger, but having certainty gives me great peace 😉.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hey MCB, Thabks for the comment and good look with repairs! Marc
@alunroberts1439
@alunroberts1439 Жыл бұрын
Excellent description.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@alunroberts1439
@alunroberts1439 Жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage am working on one my self needs a good clean. The motor has given in won't turn the pump as was lime scale in it changed pump did not help all runs ok on a drill so waiting for a new motor.
@mgp-bct7723
@mgp-bct7723 3 жыл бұрын
Wow you guys are the best one sow far how many I seen only u the guys explaining everything teaching everything :) Nice 👍 thanks 🙏
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@inferno493
@inferno493 2 жыл бұрын
Really great video, although I believe there is one small error. The top of the bottom chamber is for pre-infusion. It uses a low pressure spring to allow water to flow into it at the same time that the portafilter is building pressure and prevents the coffee from receiving a sudden burst of pressure. When you lower the lever fully, it opens both chambers, allowing the preinfusion chamber to drain so it can be used for the next shot. The lower valve uses a much higher tension spring so that it would only open on it's own in the case of excess pressure in the grouphead.
@richardau7580
@richardau7580 2 жыл бұрын
Correct!
@PacoOtis
@PacoOtis 4 жыл бұрын
Dudes! Excellent! Thanks for the video and we definitely owe you a beer, I mean brew!!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi JS, You are welcome and thank you for the comment! And I'll take the beer!!! Marc
@01cortese
@01cortese 8 жыл бұрын
well done guys
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 8 жыл бұрын
+paolo cortese Hi Paolo., Thanks for your comment!
@szesccztery
@szesccztery 4 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, thanks for the great video, I really appreciated it. Did u know, that the pressure chamber below the valve has a prebrew-function? Starting the process by pulling the lever in the up-position, the upper chamber will be filled with about 9 bar pressure, and opens the lower chamber at about 2 bar. The water drains and soaks the coffee at about 2 bar until the lower chamber is completely filled. After this, the full pressure of about 9 bar will reach the coffee and the extraction will start. Cheers from Germany! Gregor
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Gregor, Thanks for the comment! Yes we use that on rotary pump and plumbed machines from ECM and Profitec to do a true line pressure pre-infusion.
@saidaksas928
@saidaksas928 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Gregor thanks for the Info, any idea on how to learn more about fixing coffee Machines, would like to do this as a job Please advise
@aj4901300
@aj4901300 6 жыл бұрын
great job!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks and thanks for the comment!
@eglichristian1546
@eglichristian1546 7 жыл бұрын
very nice video man seriously
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
Hi Egli, Thanks for your comment we seriously love getting the a whole latte! If you like this video, we have a similar one coming out in the next day or so featuring a cutaway Profitec Pro 700.
@jensbaufeldt7543
@jensbaufeldt7543 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic educational
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jens, Glad you enjoyed it! Here's another that's very similar which takes you inside the 4 types of boilers used in most espresso machines: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbupqtKD2JrRlY0.html Marc
@alikale4851
@alikale4851 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for information
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Any time
@headoverbars8750
@headoverbars8750 3 жыл бұрын
Wow...I get some new projects with a nice little raise on the horizon and not only have I purchased a new espresso machine in my head, but now I am servicing it already Lmao... Focus! I still need to work on getting that grinder!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Sounds great!
@douglasmaclean5836
@douglasmaclean5836 3 жыл бұрын
that was absolutely awesome, thanks !
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi DM, you’re welcome. Thanks for the comment and glad you enjoyed! Marc
@baswouwenaar8530
@baswouwenaar8530 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. However you didn’t explain the preinfusion chamber. The top spring on the release end of the grouphead opens at about 1,5 atm allowing the chamber to fill resulting in some time before the pressure on the puck builds up to full brewing pressure. This is one of the unique design features of the e61’s patented design.
@hassanalsebaa
@hassanalsebaa 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. If I use meter on 2k ohms setting to test the solenoid will enough?
@riskihdi392
@riskihdi392 4 жыл бұрын
From Indonesia,terimakasih telah berbagi pengetahuan
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi le, Anda dipersilakan dan terima kasih atas komentarnya! Marc
@MatthewFura
@MatthewFura 5 жыл бұрын
Nice. That's my machine!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Matthew, Thanks! A very nice machine!
@kuldilakh7557
@kuldilakh7557 5 жыл бұрын
CooL Explanatory x
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi KL, Thanks for the comment! Marc
@bigmedge
@bigmedge 10 ай бұрын
This is a great tutorial !! But are you guys planning to make a video about the circuit paths/components of the power board ? Like which the power paths within the circuit , PCB components that frequently malfunction , symptoms of each malfunction , & how to troubleshoot them with a multimeter ?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 10 ай бұрын
Hey b, Thanks for the comment! We have a variety of support videos including some on electronics. Those are machine specific so best bet is to go to our support section here and search by brand and then the machine you are interested in: support.wholelattelove.com/hc/en-us
@beck007able
@beck007able 3 жыл бұрын
Beautiful piece of machinery!! Why can all brewing machines be made this serviceable!! Oh yeah, everyone wants them cheap!!
@ek9772
@ek9772 4 жыл бұрын
Todd the Professor 🤓
@jean-simondesjardins2819
@jean-simondesjardins2819 5 жыл бұрын
Now I'll be able to make my machine out of spare parts yay !
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi J-SD, That's a lot of spare parts!
@natsoray
@natsoray 5 жыл бұрын
This is so cool! It's really interesting how straight-forward and simple the actual mechanics of this machine are. For some reason I always imagined these machines to be much more complex.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi natsoray, Thanks for the comment. I will say ECM machines tend to be some of the most straightforward under the hood. Well engineered using the K.I.S.S. principle! Marc
@bernhardtabert5900
@bernhardtabert5900 7 жыл бұрын
Well made :-)
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
It's a fine machine indeed!
@wearashirt
@wearashirt 6 жыл бұрын
is the cam accessible at all, for example during a total cleaining and rebuild of the e61 system?
@malofx
@malofx 7 ай бұрын
"just a few pieces, not a big deal" lol
@AbuSalem2099
@AbuSalem2099 3 жыл бұрын
thank you for your valuable video. i am an engineer whos starting to study espresso machines to make my own top notch one, and maybe open my company sometime later when i master the craft.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi AS, Thanks for the comment. If you like this video you should enjoy this newer one with cutaway models of toher Espresso machine boiler types: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbupqtKD2JrRlY0.html Marc
@AbuSalem2099
@AbuSalem2099 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Hi Marc, Already did, i am honored talking with you.
@payamirani5298
@payamirani5298 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very helpful video. In watching this, it seems that a lot of the need for cleaning or maintenance required (eg backflushing) is caused because of the shared pathway to exhaust pressure from the group and end up with a dry puck. Are there any designs on groups that address this issue?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi PI, Thanks for the comment and question. No designs I'm aware of other than cheap entry-level espresso appliances which do not have a 3-way valve. With those you end up with a soupy mess in the filter basket and residual pressure after an extraction. Marc
@Jodiejjp
@Jodiejjp 2 ай бұрын
I still don’t understand how the coffee water goes through the tiny hole in the handle thing where you actually put in the coffee! Why is there literally no video explaining this part! 😂
@mrpeterpotts5106
@mrpeterpotts5106 Жыл бұрын
Interesting demonstration of how people who know intricate details do not the best teachers make.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Lol
@saraozer845
@saraozer845 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Sara, It sure is - Thanks for the comment!
@BillyBobpeeps
@BillyBobpeeps 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant vid, full of detail and exceptionally well presented, many thanks. The capacity, guesstimating, of the heat exchanger and associated piping, could be less than 300ml. Using a short purge and pulling one shot would use approx 100ml. Cold water fed by the pump would replenish this. This would suggest that the temp would take a nose dive, during and for some time after the shot. Reheat might take some time as there are no fins on the exchanger. Do you have any figures on this, please?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi BB, Thanks for the comment, question and request. If you like this video you'll love this newer one with a look inside cutaways of single, HX and dual boilers: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hbupqtKD2JrRlY0.html Reheat times are fairly quick, in most HX machines you'd be all ready to go by the time you prepped the next shot. Large thermal mass with water in boiler and the 6 or so pounds of metal in the group. Marc
@s0ccerFreakTT
@s0ccerFreakTT 4 жыл бұрын
you should do the same thing using an entry-level model
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi zg, We have some videos featuring internals of premium entry-level machines like the Gaggia Classic. Here a video showing a complete rebuild of that machine: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hJ-ZYKh5nNe8f5c.html Marc
@DanielBegin1
@DanielBegin1 6 жыл бұрын
Gents, thanks for the video. On my machine, the brew lever is very stiff when closing at the end of the shot. Is there any maintenance required for this aside from regular back flushing? Or should I open the brew head where the cam is? Thanks
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi Daniel, You are welcome and thanks for the question. So the machine should be descaled on a regular basis depending on how hard you water is. As to the lever being stiff... There is a cam internally which actuates a valve. Could be some build up on that or some wear. Can't be certain that's the issue but maybe. Here a video showing how to clean an E61 mushroom, jet and top valve: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aq5larSEqrOomKc.html
@showoffvideo
@showoffvideo 6 жыл бұрын
Pretty sweet video. Makes me sad my machine lacks a few of these features. The only thing I’m curious about is the temperature of the heat exchange. I thought heat exchange units keeps 2 temperatures. But here brew water heating up the brew head and then going through the coffee isn’t temperature controlled/monitored? Edit: I think I figured it out. Main boiler is temperature controlled at steam/hot water temp and pressure. Heat exchange inside cycles outside the boiler into the group. But the speed of the pump pumping the water out and back in from the heat exchange loosely controls the temperature to be cooler than boiler temperature.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi James, Thanks for the comment! Very close to correct on your edit. Here's what's going on: Water circulates from the heat exchange section inside the boiler out to the brew group and back. No pump involved in making that happen just thermodynamics in the thermo-siphon loop. Most E61 group machines uses a flow restrictor which controls the flow rate of the thermo-siphon. Changing the opening size of the flow restrictor affects the temperature of the group. Most heat-exchange boiler machines require a short cooling flush prior to brewing to get rid of over-heated brew water. There are a number of newer HX machines with PID temperature control which do not require cooling flushes. PIDs give very accurate in boiler temperatures. Manufacturers can then engineer the thermo-siphon with a flow restrictor sized to produce a certain brew temp say 200F even when the main boiler is running in the 260'sF.
@Giannixeneize
@Giannixeneize 4 жыл бұрын
it's very interesting i have a question i have a rocket similar to that and from the steam lance I get steam and plenty of water? I should just go out steam right? that water might come out
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi G, Thanks for the question. It's normal to have some water come out when steam is first turned on. Within a second or two it should go to steam only. The initial bit of water is from condensation. Marc
@jekciso
@jekciso 8 жыл бұрын
Nice piece of engineering, but could that contraption can be easily replaced by an overhead reservoir?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 7 жыл бұрын
Not sure we fully understand the question. Do you mean overhead such that it could be gravity fed? At some point a pump is required to create the ~9bar pressure used in the espresso brewing process.
@vlariz
@vlariz 8 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this vid guys really informative. One question I have is that if you wanted to increase the steam pressure, is it only possible via the pressure stat? thanks in advance
@vlariz
@vlariz 8 жыл бұрын
+vlariz nevermind just found your video about adjusting the sirai pressurestat you guys are awesome
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 8 жыл бұрын
+vlariz Thanks for your question and well answering it yourself! Well I guess we did but you found it on your own so you are awesome too! If you have more ?'s ask away. We're always happy to help.
@graphene1487
@graphene1487 3 жыл бұрын
played at .5 speed is a stoner's paradise. Real trip.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
OMG, bringing back high school memories - thanks! Marc
@graphene1487
@graphene1487 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage like the Magic School Bus mannnn 🧙‍♂️🥬🔥
@alekzzisrec
@alekzzisrec 8 жыл бұрын
MEGA !!
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 8 жыл бұрын
+Aleksander Gustyn If you like that, you'll get a kick out of this one: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e5qgZ86X3JumfH0.html Just don't try it at home. We are not responsible for lost digits!!!
@tdaiuto
@tdaiuto 2 жыл бұрын
Great Video. Just purchased the Mechanica V Slim. My biggest issue with the design is the lack of drainage for the Anti vacuum valve. The amount of water that leaks prior to a seal can't be good for the electronics inside the machine. I've noticed that other machines have the new type of vacuum valve that takes the excess water to the drain tray. The Profitec Pro 600 comes to mind. Is it possible to modify machines that don't have this using the new style valve? Maybe cut into the drain tube for the expansion valve and splice in the tube for the vacuum valve?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Todd, thanks for the comment and question. I don’t see a reason why you could not do that. Many machines use a T into the line going to the drip tray. Like you I prefer that setup. That said, it’s a very small amount of moisture released from the open relief valve, the boiler is hot so it evaporates rapidly and convection rapidly moves the water vapor up and out of the machine. If you decide to route to drip tray be sure the tube off the VR valve doesn’t get kinked. Kinks can prevent the VR valve from closing by causing back pressure on the valve. Marc
@AlienOne2
@AlienOne2 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing, very helpful but my machine is slightly different. Would you happen to have a video on how to replace the non-return valve on "Rocket Mozzafiato Type V"?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
No, sorry
@hizkiakumaat2206
@hizkiakumaat2206 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video. But, how much water in the heat exchanger? Is the heat exchanger path is always full of water?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 2 жыл бұрын
Hi HK, You are welcome. Heat exchanger is always full of water and once heated up is constantly circulating water out to the E61 group head. Marc
@DavidFederLimitlessGuitar
@DavidFederLimitlessGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
This is great! Do you have a teardown video for the Isomac Milano?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi DF, Sorry we do not.
@DavidFederLimitlessGuitar
@DavidFederLimitlessGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage OK Thanks
@davidkennerly
@davidkennerly 6 жыл бұрын
Is that Kevlar wrapped around the tank? I would have to guess that it is a safety measure to prevent an uncontained, over-pressure explosion, like a jet engine nacelle.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi David. Does look like kevlar but it's not. Just a high-quality jacket around insulating material. Boilers are protected from bad things happening by thermal safety switches and/or relief valves.
@corneligel1449
@corneligel1449 3 жыл бұрын
Very informative! Could you please tell me if there is a heat exchange machine available that does not have a teflon tube inside the small section of the boiler, dedicated to brewing? Does the Rocket machines also have the teflon tube?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi CG, I'm checking on Rocket but I know for certain Crem machines do not have a Teflon tube in the boilers. Check out current Crem machines here: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/semi-automatic-espresso-machines?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Crem
@corneligel1449
@corneligel1449 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the interim feedback!
@brozbro
@brozbro 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the good info. I have a Quick Mill HX, so I assume the internals are similar to your model. My manual states that the machine should "reach temperature in approximately 15 minutes, but to make delicious espresso with thick rich crema it is necessary to allow the machine to be heated for 30-45 minutes with the portafilter kept in the grouphead." What I don't see in your video is what the extra 30 minutes of heating time is actually doing, given that the boiler has reached its maximum after 15 minutes. Do you?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Rich, I sure do! That extra time allows the group head to reach full temperature. In E61 groups there's a thermo-siphon which through convection is constantly circulating water through the group to heat it up. In order to get stable brew temps the group must be fully warmed prior to use. In this type of machine full heating of all the metal in the group head does take about 30 minutes. Marc
@brozbro
@brozbro 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage I thought releasing water thru the group head prior to pulling the shot was supposed to do that. In a world of espresso nits this is just one more to pick.
@kekelapp0r
@kekelapp0r 3 жыл бұрын
@@brozbro In HX machines, releasing water before pulling the shot is actually known as a "cooling flush" that gets rid of the water that has heated up too much in the HX. Just letting water run through the group head will only contribute a little to heating it up faster, but it takes a lot of time (and water) to heat it up completely.
@moulayelalami3042
@moulayelalami3042 5 жыл бұрын
Bonjour, même si je comprend pas beaucoup l'Anglais c'est tellement bien détailler qu'on vois les étapes, merci j'aurais aimer avoir cette vidéo en français ça aurait été le pied
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Je vous en prie. Merci pour le commentaire!
@petarrusev1259
@petarrusev1259 8 жыл бұрын
Very useful video! :) Thank you WWL guys! I need Todd's advice, please! Dear Todd, do you recommend to use blind filter and set the rotary pump pressure to 10 bar, as you already showed this for vibration pump on Expobar Brewtus? ... And what is going on with the Alex Duetto Review and comparison video? Thank you! :)
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 8 жыл бұрын
+Petar Rusev Hi Petar, Yes, we recommend setting pressure to 10 bar with the blind basket in place - that will give you ~9 bar when actually brewing. Sorry on the Duetto review. Still on the list but other priorities at the moment. Wish there were more hours in the day!!!
@petarrusev1259
@petarrusev1259 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you WWL guys! I know that you are # 1! 😃 I am happy to hear that Alex Ditto III is in your list with forthcoming reviews, because I think it deserves it! BTW, I see the decrease in its price compared to those of R58 V2. In the US ADIII is cheaper than R58 V2, while in Europe the ADIII has equal or a bit higher price than R58 V2. I saw that ECM, ADIII and R58 V2 have one and the same E61 brew group, which lead me to the conclusion that all of them are produced in Bezzera factory. Only Expobar has their own newsgroup with the cavity around the water diffuser. So, I will be more than happy to see your comparison video between Alex Ditto III, Rocket R58 V2 and Expobar Brewtus -R. 😃
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 8 жыл бұрын
+Petar Rusev Hi Petar, Can assure you that ECM, AD, Rocket and Bezzera machines are not assembled in the same factory. They may share some components made by other manufacturers but machines are made in their own shops.
@petarrusev1259
@petarrusev1259 8 жыл бұрын
Hi guys, Sorry about my inaccurate expression! Yes of course, that they are being produced separately. I meant that only their E61 brew group are one and the same. If you look them below the brew head, you will see that the diffusers are the same. Only Expobar brew head design is different. BTW, has the Faema E61 patent expired already on 2011?
@shihster88
@shihster88 7 жыл бұрын
The water goes through the injection pipe during brewing and mixes with the hot water in the heat exchange pipe at 9 bar. There is still a little gap at the bottom of the connecting piece grouting pipe where the recirculated water comes through as shown in 6:01. How does the pressure of the water in the pipe during the brew process at 9 bar during brewing not push backwards out of the exchanger and backwards through the cold side of the thermosiphon?
@emilycarpenter5965
@emilycarpenter5965 Жыл бұрын
Late to the discussion, but I had the same thought as you did. I am assuming that once the pump pressurizes the heat exchanger, water will flow from high pressure to low pressure meaning that water will flow through both lines of the thermosiphon to the back of the E61 group. However, since the colder water comes into the middle of the Hx, water leaving the Hx through the hot water line and through the recirc line of the thermosiphon should both be close together in temperature. Even if they are off by a few degrees, they will mix in the first chamber of the E61 before moving through the mushroom. I hope that makes sense, I've only been studying these machines for a few months.
@chaoswr
@chaoswr 5 жыл бұрын
So there are actually two reservoirs - 1. the boiler 2. heat exchanger and top chamber. The pressure gauge and the pump setting only relate to the boiler, but the brew pressure is needed at the top chamber. Can you explain this discrepancy?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 5 жыл бұрын
Hi c, Thanks for the question. A little unsure of what you are referring to. One gauge measures pressure in the section of the boiler producing steam. The brew pressure gauge measures pressure in the brewing circuit - water which comes from the heat exchange section of the boiler. That's only active when brewing.
@zruban
@zruban 2 жыл бұрын
One quick question: In the video (time 14:43) you are explaining how the pressure of E61 is released. What could be wrong if my Bezzera stops doing this back pressure thing from the brew group? I stop the coffe extraxting when coffe is done but no pressure from the bototm of the Group is released aftewards ...no ideas anywehere. Any suggestions?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 2 жыл бұрын
Hi MZ, Thanks for the question. Wish I knew which model Bezzera machine you have. Does your machine use an E61 group with a lever to start and stop the extraction or the BZ group? if E61 it may need a cleaning. If BZ group it has an electrical solenoid valve which may need attention if not blowing off pressure at end of extraction. Here's a video showing how to clean E61 group which may help with your problem: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aq5larSEqrOomKc.html Marc
@zruban
@zruban 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage Thank you Marc. It´s Bezzera Mitica TOP with E61 group (HX boiler and ROTARY pump). I´m your big fan so I have already checked all avaliable videos out there and E61 group has been cleaned on regular basis (every 3 months)...it´s true that for a short time it helps (and by short time I mean 5-6 espresso :) )
@nightcoder5k
@nightcoder5k 3 жыл бұрын
Do the lines have to coil like that? If so, what's the purpose?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Coder, Great question! I do not know the answer with 100% confidence but it's likely to keep excessive heat and/or water from getting to the gauge.
@corneligel1449
@corneligel1449 3 жыл бұрын
Is there any heat exchanger machine available, that does not have a teflon tube inside the small boiler section?
@corneligel1449
@corneligel1449 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! The video is very informative.
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 3 жыл бұрын
Hi CG, I'm checking on Rocket but I know for certain Crem machines do not have a Teflon tube in the boilers. Check out current Crem machines here: www.wholelattelove.com/collections/semi-automatic-espresso-machines?_=pf&pf_v_brand=Crem
@lowspeed2000
@lowspeed2000 6 жыл бұрын
Do this won't work with distilled water? Essentially the boiler will never know if it has water or not?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage 6 жыл бұрын
Hi lowspeed, The boiler water level probe probably will not work in mineral free water. You can get around that by adding a pinch of salt to the water. However, we do not recommend using distilled water in espresso machines. Mineral free water makes bad tasting coffee. Espresso will over-extract due to lack of mineral content. No scale will form but there is a risk of corrosion and leaching of boiler metals. Ultra-pure water is a fairly strong solvent. That's the reason why distilled and RO purified water is never delivered in or piped through metallic components.
@cjeccher8128
@cjeccher8128 4 жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage I ve been using RO water in my Cimbali Jr for 20 years!
@Eiji_Kisaragi
@Eiji_Kisaragi Жыл бұрын
3:30 a checked valve? is it the same as what people called it a non return valve? whereby water does not flow back?
@Wholelattelovepage
@Wholelattelovepage Жыл бұрын
Hi a, yes. Check valve and non-return are used interchangeably.
@Eiji_Kisaragi
@Eiji_Kisaragi Жыл бұрын
@@Wholelattelovepage duly noted. you guys are awesome in what you are doing.. 👍👍👍.
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