How Jimmy and Kim RUINED Howard’s Life BREAKDOWN + EXPLAINED! Season 6 Episode 7 Better Call Saul

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TheVividKiWi

TheVividKiWi

Күн бұрын

Hey guys, in this video I'll be breaking down and discussing Jimmy and Kim's Mediation Meeting con against Howard and the Sandpiper settlement case throughout Better Call Saul Season 6 Episodes 5 to 7!
Be sure to leave any opinions in the comments section below, and possibly a like if you've enjoyed the video :)
I'll see you guys next time with more Better Call Saul!
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0:00 - Intro
0:49 - Episodes 605 - 606
5:32 - Episode 607 Pre-Game
9:47 - The Mediation Meeting
21:06 - Final Thoughts
22:18 - Outro

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@Pangloss6413
@Pangloss6413 2 жыл бұрын
"Jimmy snuck in and-" "-DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!" That made me spit tea out my nose
@supervegito2277
@supervegito2277 Жыл бұрын
That wasnt necessary for VividKiwis argument, but goddamn if it wasnt funny.
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE 2 жыл бұрын
Man I remember watching this and it was just so hard to watch whenever the plan goes into full effect. Especially when he gets the photos back it kills me every-time. I can’t wait till July 11th Fr!
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE 2 жыл бұрын
Also good job as always Kiwi! I found your channel during the pandemic and you convinced me to get into this show and I’m so grateful!! Appreciate you as always my friend your analysis are the best!
@worldrecordmethod7119
@worldrecordmethod7119 2 жыл бұрын
Please stop saying “whenever” when you just mean “when”
@CoryTheNorm
@CoryTheNorm 2 жыл бұрын
God, I couldn't help but cringe when Kim and Jimmy were getting hot and heavy during the mediation.
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE 2 жыл бұрын
@@worldrecordmethod7119 thanks for the vocab lesson teacher 😤
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE
@DCANNONSTEPSBYKE 2 жыл бұрын
@@CoryTheNorm Same here it was so sick to watch. The worse feeling I swear
@nont18411
@nont18411 2 жыл бұрын
No matter how tough their financial situation are, Jimmy, Kimmy and Lalo still managed to send Howard on a trip to Belize.
@colbybryant4534
@colbybryant4534 2 жыл бұрын
such great friends honestly I’m jealous
@jeffreyjimenez3112
@jeffreyjimenez3112 Жыл бұрын
This had me rolling 🤣🤣
@stogz284
@stogz284 2 жыл бұрын
I felt bad for Howard being framed. I never felt bad for Chuck during his chicanery outburst. I actually enjoyed watching Chucks downfall and his psychosomatic illness being exposed.
@amipadme3985
@amipadme3985 2 жыл бұрын
Hard same.
@lukecockburn1140
@lukecockburn1140 2 жыл бұрын
Do you think anything he said during his chicanery outburst was inaccurate?
@Jidom_101
@Jidom_101 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck was right tho 🤷‍♂️
@davidshatto7604
@davidshatto7604 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I didn’t like chuck, it was hard for me to watch a mentally ill man lose his mind
@stogz284
@stogz284 2 жыл бұрын
@@lukecockburn1140 it wasn’t inaccurate but him saying things that are true doesn’t make him a good person. Also, jimmy did make an effort to change his ways but every time he was beat down by Chuck assuming it was fake. So really, Chuck kept jimmy in a cycle of reverting back to slippin jimmy
@dani.phantm
@dani.phantm 2 жыл бұрын
They totally expected Howard to come to the house. When Howard first knocks on the door, Kim says "We should probably get this over with." and Jimmy says he'll get the door "in case [he] comes in swinging". So it's not like Howard's presence at their house was unexpected, it was still part of their plan and he died because of it. They're almost directly responsible for his death, intended or not.
@paratatruc
@paratatruc Жыл бұрын
what was unexpected was Lalo's presence at their house. If they had invited Howard to have a dinner with them, they still would have been responsible for his death? As much as I despise Jimmy and sympathize Howard, Jimmy has absolutely no responsibility in his demise.
@dani.phantm
@dani.phantm Жыл бұрын
@@paratatruc obviously they never expected Lalo at their house but that’s where Kim is at fault because if she told Jimmy that Lalo was still alive he would’ve never done the Howard scam, and then Howard would’ve never been at their house that night. they’re both culpable in it for different reasons
@ZlimeH38D
@ZlimeH38D Жыл бұрын
@@dani.phantm you have a point!
@phulatrox5296
@phulatrox5296 Жыл бұрын
@@paratatruc he does have a little bit of responsibility considering he released lalo from jail
@victoriaa9933
@victoriaa9933 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that Lalo even knows where Jimmy lives is also an unintended consequence of something Kim does that turns out to be a huge misstep. I don't think Lalo even knows his real name, but when she panics that he doesn't come home that night from the desert, she goes to the jail the next day and has to give her real name to get in. Of course Lalo has no useful information for her about what's going on in the desert right now (how could he?) but once he has her name and who she is, he finds Jimmy. That's her place and her lease. There was no way to know without this incident. More escalation and unintended terrible consequences.
@SC1089
@SC1089 Жыл бұрын
Lalo finds out about Kim, but this does not lead right to Lalo finding out where they live. Hello? Lalo is a boss in a powerful Mexican Cartel! You think finding Saul's address is a problem for him? Lalo finds out about Jimmy through Nacho, who knew his name was McGill since he lifted his business card back in Season 1. The first time Nacho appears on screen he finds out Jimmy's name. Even without that, Lalo tracked down Ziegler when he was on the run, and discovered Gus's meth lab, completely on his own! You think finding where Jimmy lives will shake him a Hell of a difference? That's nothing. The real error is that Lalo doesn't already know... Cartels become powerful by fully vetting absolutely everyone they do any type of business with, so would actually expect Lalo to know every last detail about Jimmy/Saul, before contact. We are given an explanation for this, by Lalo being the third boss needed for. First Tuco, then Hector and the twins need to be replaced. Salamanca territory must always be run by the Salamancas, so the cartel can't hand it off to a different boss while there is a living Salamanca who is able to run it. So Lalo has to take over the USA Salamanca territory on his own. Since Lalo is doing so much hands-on, micromanaging, with Nacho, the marital status of Saul/Jimmy, is disregarded
@jamiegray7822
@jamiegray7822 2 жыл бұрын
I like the scene of Howard running up the spiral stairs showing him spiralling out of control.
@victoriaa9933
@victoriaa9933 2 жыл бұрын
This storyline reminded me of Mike & the Ice Cream Truck. Mike wants to get the DEA on Hector (which would also mean Nacho) , and does a DIY project with his granddaughter to hit Hector's smuggling truck. His succeeds in hitting the truck but, unintended consequences, a random person stops to help the driver and gets killed by Hector. Then the cartel kills the driver, which Nacho participates in but clearly doesn't WANT to do. He just knows he has to. Mike wasn't trying to get the driver and a random person killed, but everything escalates beyond his intent and that happens as an indirect result of his plan.
@WhiskeyShred
@WhiskeyShred 2 жыл бұрын
Watching the whole series again from the start, so much stands out...this show is BRILLIANT
@sauerfamily
@sauerfamily Жыл бұрын
Freaking same
@vinczerobert1472
@vinczerobert1472 2 жыл бұрын
Its interesting how before dying Howard says that he will dedicate his life to making sure that everybody knows the truth about Jimmy and Kim and 1 minute later he dies and by doing so it may very well happen that he accomplished his goal.
@jayson8070
@jayson8070 2 жыл бұрын
Every detail of the long con was brilliant! I never picked up that the guy was holding out the branch so the staged photo would look like it was covertly taken by the PI from behind a tree. I love the 'show don't tell' aspects of this show that reward you for paying attention.
@LordofLumber72
@LordofLumber72 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I assume they ruined his life because they also unintentionally ended it.
@nikkithackway3802
@nikkithackway3802 2 жыл бұрын
that makes no sense.
@badassbard3295
@badassbard3295 2 жыл бұрын
They didn’t know they would end it 💀🤣 they thought he’d bounce back which he would off
@amberrj.
@amberrj. 11 ай бұрын
​@@nikkithackway3802 it really doesn't make any sense. & 33 ppl still upvoted it😂
@HappySqrl
@HappySqrl Жыл бұрын
One thing you missed is how the Kettlemans went to Mesa Verde and talked to Erin Brill about Howard's "drug addiction." Almost everyone in that room was primed to believe that Howard was using cocaine.
@lash570
@lash570 2 жыл бұрын
Remember- Jimmy never would have been screwing around with Howard had he known Lalo was alive- Howard’s literal death is Kim’s fault- And let’s take a moment to consider- Kim wasn’t even worried about Lalo because she was so in love with her Howard plans - KIM IS TRULY SICK
@iluvanimals4evr
@iluvanimals4evr 2 жыл бұрын
If Jimmy finds out that Kim knew about Lalo still being alive and the fact that she hid it from him, I think Jimmy is going to take it very hard and also blame Kim for Howard’s death; and be disgusted that she still wanted to go through with their Howard plans; I hope they don’t break up over this, but, I think this is not something Jimmy will not be able to let go. I like Jimmy and Kim as a couple but I too think she is just sick after this!
@patriciaw636
@patriciaw636 2 жыл бұрын
@@iluvanimals4evr dont think they would 'break up' they barely seem romantic, its more of a business relationship. You cant force someone to testify about their spouse
@harryb12993
@harryb12993 Жыл бұрын
@@iluvanimals4evr kim’s dying by the end of this. The top of the bottle she stole was picked up by people clearing out a house (think it may have been Gus’s?) which is probably where she dies. No clue how this happens but I guess we’ll see soon enough.
@sauerfamily
@sauerfamily Жыл бұрын
I think her not telling him is going to be a big problem for Jimmy. Definitely
@nont18411
@nont18411 Жыл бұрын
Kimmy: being mad at Jimmy for hiding about Mesa Verde from her. Also Kimmy:
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 жыл бұрын
Kim also doesn’t seem nearly as shocked/scared when Lalo enters their house and shoots Howard.
@lucasf1035
@lucasf1035 2 жыл бұрын
Because Mike told her he was alive, she was only scared to see him, but Jimmy thought he was dead, so to him, it was like watching his personal boogeyman come back from the dead.
@Jared_Wignall
@Jared_Wignall 2 жыл бұрын
The storytelling in this series is truly astounding. Thank you for the video man, keep up the great work!
@JollyWailmer
@JollyWailmer 2 жыл бұрын
Me: takes a shot everytime Kiwi says "unhinged" Also me: dies of alcohol poisoning
@TheVividKiWi
@TheVividKiWi 2 жыл бұрын
That being said In regards to With that in mind
@JollyWailmer
@JollyWailmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheVividKiWi 😂🤣
@SpaceWindu
@SpaceWindu 2 жыл бұрын
"In a much more brutal manner." No, Kiwi. Being burned alive (Chuck) is way worse than being shot in the head. At least, that what I'd imagine. Burning alive has got to be the worst death.
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 жыл бұрын
Yup, suffocating while every part of your body is burned is objectively worse than a quick bullet through the brain.
@ThaisNunesYoutuber
@ThaisNunesYoutuber 2 жыл бұрын
based on science, you're right!
@piggysew797
@piggysew797 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck did choose his death however, Howard's was brutal in that it was taken from him in an instant with no closure on anything.
@jackmcg0
@jackmcg0 2 жыл бұрын
I think most of your nerves would be burnt to the point of being unable to feel pain pretty quickly, but the moments before would be horrific
@raydavison4288
@raydavison4288 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackmcg0: From what I've read, burn victims are subject to horrific pain right uo till the end. I would much rather he shot in the head. Howard didn't even have the time to realize what was happening. 💥! You're dead. 😬
@ryansheedy5187
@ryansheedy5187 2 жыл бұрын
Kiwi blessing us on a Monday! Made my lunch break very enjoyable keep up the good work brother
@pooky1972
@pooky1972 2 жыл бұрын
I just rewatched all of BB and now I am at Season 4 of BCS. The shows mirror each other at times. Even down to the support groups in both, the one Jesse attends, then Mike in BCS. Mike has the same kind of relationship with Nacho and Jesse, he seems to want to save them both, possibly due to losing his own son. Some of the characters also share similar traits and the demise of them. On top of that you have the drama and suspense that reaches high levels and the twists and turns not to mention all the Easter eggs. The writers, directors and actors all make these shows some of the best tv ever made in my opinion. Love your channel Kiwi x
@charlescooper1349
@charlescooper1349 2 жыл бұрын
Good point that Kim and Jimmy lucked out that Howard didn’t go upstairs to get the photos himself. But even luckier is that he left evidence like this on his desk. Me, I give the evidence to staff to get copied immediately and the originals locked up.
@bambulkomccloud3983
@bambulkomccloud3983 2 жыл бұрын
He already accused the mediator at that point, so the damage was already done. The fake photos were not really necessary, but the icing on the cake.
@lash570
@lash570 Жыл бұрын
Howard had an alibi of being in therapy but didn't care enough to prove anything to cliff
@hashvendetta7226
@hashvendetta7226 Жыл бұрын
At the point he got the photos, it wasn't really "evidence" it was just information. He didn't know who was in the picture with him yet.
@stepha2642
@stepha2642 Жыл бұрын
Investigators (and it will be investigated) will determine that his mental and emotional state prior to his "suicide" was caused by prolonged and deliberate attacks against Howard. While they did not intend for Howard to die, and probably didn't even consider it a possibility (therefore not murder) everything up to that point was their intended outcome. They did a very poor job carrying out their plan. They left evidence everywhere and recruited too many people (all unaware of the plan)
@tony_dogs
@tony_dogs 2 жыл бұрын
14:10 "Somehow he switched them. No, Jimmy, he snuck in somehow and-" "DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!!" Bravo Kiwi for that edit job
@ominousjerry703
@ominousjerry703 2 жыл бұрын
Staying on top of the game per usual. Good stuff wiki, like always
@victoriaa9933
@victoriaa9933 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever do a video tracking the timeline and their relationship? A friend and i are watching this series for a 3rd time ahead of the last 6 episodes and now that we can work backwards we caught so much great stuff. Looks like they had to take some creative liberties with what ages the actors appear because they had the same Saul actor. In episode 1 Kim and Jimmy are only supposed to be 34/41. Jimmy arrives in ABQ/HHM 10 years prior to episode 1, right after his SECOND marriage ends in a dramatic blowout with his wife leaving him and he gets out of jail. He'd be 31. Kim starts working there around the same time and we see the mail room and office park isn't that big - so she'd only be 24. Further episode tell us she was broke, lonely with nobody to look out for her, and raised by an alcoholic. He's a charming but scammy 31 year old guy who's already been divorced twice, who befriends a really young woman. She goes to law school then he goes after she finishes. Chuck doesn't know he was in school but she did. Add in that neither of them look like bridge trolls, even though it takes 10 years due to a number of potential factors (plus what they want the trajectory of the relationship to look like in the timeline we see), from day 1 this was destined to be serious drama and codependency. We only see the relationship 10 years from the start, and the brief interaction shown in episode 1 looks so intimate even if the relationship is still "just friends". They've got a long history together which spans most of her adult life - and it appears he's the only close/consistent person around in her adult life, ever. Chuck says something but only around the 10 year mark so it's way too late to intervene. It's all set up so perfectly. We could see the boundaries break down to nothing as the episodes go by, although they have few boundaries even at the start. Early on Jimmy "takes care" of Chuck like making the space blankets, but his relationship with Kim has a strong caregiving element too, more so as the episodes go by . Looking at it in the context of this started as a 31 year old man who had 2 wives leave him / 24 year old young woman who was broke and had nobody, even the fast-forward 13 years later (the current episodes we see) make a lot of sense as to why the dynamic is what it is.
@Steven_Edwards
@Steven_Edwards 2 жыл бұрын
It is only because of Kiwi and The Boys that I am able to stand this break waiting on the second half of the series. Thanks Kiwi
@jondocs6071
@jondocs6071 2 жыл бұрын
yes, the boys and barry help during this break!
@TheDealMaster
@TheDealMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping the videos coming during the mid-season hiatus. It helps keep everything fresh in my mind. It also is inspiring me to watch all the episodes again in season 6 up to this point. 👍👍
@ZlimeH38D
@ZlimeH38D Жыл бұрын
“No, Jimmy, he snuck in somehow and… DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!” 🤣
@sihlesoldati5593
@sihlesoldati5593 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the vid. We appreciate them a lot 🎁🌞🥳
@UDreviews
@UDreviews 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown!
@Dilllonm
@Dilllonm 10 ай бұрын
Stuff like this makes you realize the timing of the show in terms of the year make it a perfect moment in history, where a technology is good enough for the stuff to happen, but not so good that stuff like the printed out photos or the copy machine could even happen since nowadays, the photos would be digital and emailed
@wetcatfud6108
@wetcatfud6108 2 жыл бұрын
I would LOVE to see a flashback with Michael McKean and Ed Begley Jr. playing musical instruments together. EBJ was the first drummer of Spinal Tap as John 'Stumpy' Pepys.
@hashvendetta7226
@hashvendetta7226 Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. You're right
@indiatastic
@indiatastic Жыл бұрын
i felt so bad that howard was suspicious and still fell for it.
@EnjoySackLunch
@EnjoySackLunch 2 жыл бұрын
Ohhhh he was doing a fishing reel , I thought he was miming sharpening a pencil and was like huh
@Diggz24
@Diggz24 2 жыл бұрын
This was an amazing episode absolutely! But I'd have to say episode 603 'Rock and Hard Place' was the best episode of BCS ever!! Also 'Five-O' from Season 1 was up there too!
@ryanbobyan
@ryanbobyan Жыл бұрын
Five-O was easily my favorite episode until s4e2
@sgman9058
@sgman9058 2 жыл бұрын
Fighter jet? That's a B-29! 16:05
@renerocha6334
@renerocha6334 2 жыл бұрын
I remember developing film in a dark room. Prior to enlarging the prints, you had to develop the film. That was a pretty lengthy process from what i remember. It’s a timed process determined by the film manufacturer. How long exactly did Jimmy and Kim supposedly perform all these task?
@M_Baker9ersFan
@M_Baker9ersFan 2 жыл бұрын
26K subs!! Go Kiwi!!!
@maywoodsfinest2705
@maywoodsfinest2705 2 жыл бұрын
Why do you keep blaming Jimmy, when it was Kim's idea and actions that led to Howard's death.
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I also noticed how he keeps saying Jimmy and not Jim&Kim.
@daggy5505
@daggy5505 2 жыл бұрын
i think it’s just general discourse of the show ngl, yes Jimmy does share some blame but what most people overlook is that Kim is just as much to blame, this seasons been showing that Kim has been pulling the strings as much as Jimmy for this entire scheme. Gotta remember how reluctant Jimmy was with this in the beginning, if anything Kim’s arc parallels walts arc where they were given a way out but enjoy this other type of lifestyle
@bryanhenry6871
@bryanhenry6871 2 жыл бұрын
As much of it was Kim's idea, Jimmy at the end of the day still went along with it. Yes Kim pushed for this and despite Jimmy's initial reluctance, he caused Howard's death just as much as Kim did.
@maywoodsfinest2705
@maywoodsfinest2705 2 жыл бұрын
@@bryanhenry6871 True, but it's more Kim's fault than Jimmy's.
@jposensei
@jposensei 2 жыл бұрын
It was both. Jimmy did corrupt Kim for sure. He got her into conning people and she enjoyed it.
@jposensei
@jposensei 2 жыл бұрын
I did not like the story line of Saul and Kim planning this revenge of Howard. I was asking the same questions Howard did, what did he do that was so wrong to ruin his life. He may have landed on his feet but drug abuse as a lawyer could have ruined his career. I felt bad for Howard.
@victoriaa9933
@victoriaa9933 2 жыл бұрын
I'm watching this series for the 3rd time right now and I'm on the other side of this. From episode 1 they set up that Howard's an asshole. it's "just business" but he screws over the two of them (and Chuck) multiple times as the seasons go by, in big ways that could affect lifetime earnings and career trajectory. It makes sense they eventually try to ruin one of his deals, try to get a sum of money that they wanted to dump into helping people, and get the nursing home residents theirs too. Those firms have a ton of money. Worst that happens is he gets chewed out by someone then moves on to the next thing. It's said explicitly in Inventing Anna. Guys like that only fail upwards. The audience knows Howard has problems in his personal life already, but they don't know that and couldn't possibly have a clue. Like everything on this show it's some "low level" thing that escalates through unfortunate coincidences then has serious unintended consequences: like trying to put one over on those asshole Kettleman's but accidentally walking into Abuela's house instead. There was no reason to think anybody would die here, or anything would happen except Howard looks like an idiot in that board room but moves on to the next deal, as usual. Yes they were expecting Howard but there was no reason to think Lalo would show up and kill him. Mike even said it's highly unlikely Lalo would make contact. When Mike finds out about this he's probably going to blame himself for pulling the security off. I love how everything escalates on this show and coincidences of wrong place/wrong time have such a huge impact. I can't wait to see how they're going to resolve this. My guess is someone else has to get shot with that gun, and badly, to make it look like a murder attempt/suicide.
@HopUpOutDaBed
@HopUpOutDaBed Жыл бұрын
this is why the writers make such a point to point out that howard will "land on his feet again." They're trying to hammer it in that even though Kim and Jimmy are making Howard have the worst day of his professional life, it's actually not that big of a deal in the grand scheme of things. He wasn't going to kill himself or anything like that, he would have just moved on if not for Lalo.
@chinmaytope622
@chinmaytope622 Жыл бұрын
I personally believe that's naive - Kim knows Lalo is alive because Mike told her, and she lies to Jimmy to continue the plan that keeps spiraling out of control. Nonetheless, I find that Howard ultimately was far more redeeming than any other character here - he is continually shown bettering himself. After his dread and grief from Chuck's passing to HHM's supposed "hiring spree" (Cliff mentions it), we observe Howard's ability to "land on his feet". Additionally, seasons 1 and 2 both reveal that Jimmy is truly subjugated by chuck, who despises Jimmy's knack for disrespecting the law. Jimmy does not appreciate a by-the-book approach to his work. Howard is then revealed to also be somewhat at the behest of Chuck (he helped pay for law school and is obviously older and more conventionally wise) and it's evident that Howard was largely caught in the middle of the two brothers' conflict. The " unfortunate coincidences" is something that Jimmy as a character is created. It's through this pressure that his nature truly unfolds. Additionally, an unintended consequence is something that is bound to happen when someone commits a scam as he does.
@piccolo9365
@piccolo9365 2 жыл бұрын
Once the mid season finale ended I still couldn’t process what truly happened. Not only was Howard’s legacy tarnished, he doesn’t even get the chance to recover it.
@doyoulikedags3534
@doyoulikedags3534 2 жыл бұрын
14:14 "Jimmy, he snuck in somehow and DEFECATED THROUGH A SUNROOF!"
@rinzaigigen2640
@rinzaigigen2640 2 жыл бұрын
I must add, however, that your assertion that "if someone tells you he's not crazy, he most likely is" makes no sense whatsoever, just as do these situations wherein they occur. In either case, we know exactly what events conspired to produce these totally legitimate responses. Chuck's account for Jimmy's sins is one of the most truthful moments in the story, as is Howard's bold conviction that this all was Jimmy's doing. Obviously, if somebody tells you he's not crazy, it's because *he's not,* and this must be asserted to negate the notion that he is, which is a constant accusation whensoever one bears witness to extreme phenomena. *[({R.G.)}]*
@TheVividKiWi
@TheVividKiWi 2 жыл бұрын
It just makes the person initial sound bad even if they aren’t actually crazy
@bingingbinging8597
@bingingbinging8597 Жыл бұрын
@@TheVividKiWi lol this guy himself is crazy. Look how he signed his initials😂 he/she has definitely had to tell people “I’m not crazy”
@tay2229
@tay2229 2 жыл бұрын
The judge inadvertently helps Jimmy and Kim by saying the exact things that someone who had been genuinely paid off might have said - talking about 'compromise' etc. He also has a kind of charming personality and cracks a mild joke or two which might further remind Howard of Jimmy.
@rporta
@rporta 2 жыл бұрын
the mediation scene was incredible
@Buford_T_Justice1
@Buford_T_Justice1 2 жыл бұрын
As a BB/BCS junkie, I would like to say that Kiwi, your videos are like finding a baggy of blue meth on my doorstep every time you upload. Also, crazy people say “I’m not crazy!” Sane people ask “Am I crazy?”
@GHoover
@GHoover 2 жыл бұрын
best content on youtube, july 11 can’t come soon enough
@stevem.o.1185
@stevem.o.1185 2 жыл бұрын
I love that all of the recommended videos on my sidebar are along the lines of "SIX CRAZY TROPANE ALKALOID STORIES! featuring shadow people!". I'm 100% convinced that the vet drug had to be something like atropine and/or scopolamine. Definitely a tropane.
@lloydedwards968
@lloydedwards968 2 жыл бұрын
It answers Jimmy’s question to Kim last season, “Am I bad for you?” Their powers together have gotten people killed. I think Kim survives Lalo but Kim and Saul know they can’t be together. But, I don’t think I’ve guessed right this entire series so who knows. July 11, 2022 can’t get here fast enough.
@mickk8519
@mickk8519 2 жыл бұрын
I do wonder about Kim's demise, because Jimmy doesn't seem to be hung up about Kim in Breaking Bad, he doesn't show any signs of a huge personal loss or trauma, and he should be showing signs of enormous depression if he'd witnessed her death.
@DocRoc94
@DocRoc94 2 жыл бұрын
The fact writing occurred in order for the script to exist is just a testament to how brilliant the writing is on this show!!
@mrfarenheit0323
@mrfarenheit0323 9 ай бұрын
This show makes breaking bad feel like a sequel
@supervegito2277
@supervegito2277 Жыл бұрын
19:20 Schadenfreude is only sickening if its not deserved... Kim and Jimmy fully believes it is no?
@hailmaryrecordings8255
@hailmaryrecordings8255 2 жыл бұрын
Best episode of television I’ve ever seen.
@kevinobrien9626
@kevinobrien9626 2 жыл бұрын
Has anyone asked whether the fake PI correlates to an entry in the Caldera book?
@SC1089
@SC1089 Жыл бұрын
There is no such thing as a law firm that does not have a detective agency on contract, or at least having one they are familar with and often hire. You think people tell their girlfriends, wives, friends, bosses, co-workers, relatives, the truth? You think companies tell each other the truth when suing one another? Or when companies work together? Or when they are merging, you think they tell each other all about the other's balance sheet in full? Sure they are supposed to, but you don't think they try and cheat anyway? District Attornys and United States Attornys have their own forces to uncover the hidden information. Any attorney in the private sector in any way though, has a private detective or detective agency on call or contract
@sauerfamily
@sauerfamily Жыл бұрын
OMG I JUST THOUGHT OF SOMETHING!!! What if the Trip to Belize bit comes from how they cover up Howard’s death?!?
@rporta
@rporta 2 жыл бұрын
Kim's and Jimmy's plan was genius
@nont18411
@nont18411 2 жыл бұрын
Jimmy should have said “No” to Howard’s job offer like a normal person. Unfortunately, Jimmy is not a normal person.
@jackrichardson4089
@jackrichardson4089 2 жыл бұрын
Can we an analysis of Finger at some point please?
@ottersirotten4290
@ottersirotten4290 Жыл бұрын
It didnt made Sense to me that Howard hired the Conman given that a big Law Firm like HHM would have a bunch of exeptional PIs, heck the would have Investigators employed. He would have never hired an PI he never seen before and worked with
@Scottdick6
@Scottdick6 2 жыл бұрын
For those completely blaming jimmy and Kim for Howard’s death, consider the fact that if they invited Howard over for dinner that night the result would’ve been the same. He died, because he was there. Whether he was there because of the con or any other reason, the result would be the same.
@ronanshanley7829
@ronanshanley7829 2 жыл бұрын
I agree and disagree at the same time. I agree that this kind of casual causality can't really be blamed on them, that is, if Kim and Jim were good friends of Howard's, invited him over for dinner and a random robber broke in and killed Howard it wouldn't be their fault at all. However it wasn't a random act of violence that Howard happened to walk into due to an unrelated action by the couple. Lalo and more importantly the Cartel were known to Jimmy and Kimmy, even though they had no reason to believe that on that night both Howard and a violent psychopath would cross paths in their apartment they were playing a dangerous game. Working with murderers and screwing people over never necessarily means that people get killed specifically, but the reason why its wrong flirt with danger is in part because no one can have full control of the consequences of their actions. What if, for example Howard was in the throes of depression during this scam and he killed himself over it? The couple still did not directly kill him and committed the exact same actions but I imagine most people would be far more horrified at this. This specific death cannot be attributed to Kim and Jim, ultimately Lalo is the murderer, but they are playing a dangerous game and for some reason it takes a man being murdered in front of their eyes for them to realize this (temporarily at that). This is why they are terrible people.
@victoriaa9933
@victoriaa9933 2 жыл бұрын
@@ronanshanley7829 I think Mike will blame himself when he finds out, he's the one that decided to pull the Lalo security off all the "low level targets."
@Diggz24
@Diggz24 2 жыл бұрын
@@victoriaa9933 I can't wait until Mike finds out!! I really hope they go into detail with the disposal of Howard's body too! Because they definitely would have in Breaking Bad!
@patriciaw636
@patriciaw636 2 жыл бұрын
@@victoriaa9933 definitely gonna have to see mike in action cleaning up that mess. I can imagine theyd do a sad mirroring of jesse and jane..
@jerrym7987
@jerrym7987 2 жыл бұрын
At the end chuck was right jimmy is always going to hurt everyone around him and that is going to include Kim.
@bernielomax4702
@bernielomax4702 Жыл бұрын
So what does everyone think? Does Cliff ultimately believe Howard or not?
@TrishD33LGK
@TrishD33LGK 2 жыл бұрын
I recently rewatched BB and BCS before the Season 6 premier and I feel like I forgot everything. For example, Jesse doesn't know Walt killed Mike does he? And that Gomey and Hank are also dead. Peter & Vince don't need to mesh BB and BCS together for me bc apparently, my brain is mushing them together all on its own.
@tyleryoung8958
@tyleryoung8958 2 жыл бұрын
"Pinkie promise?" "Pinkie, All the other fingers.." Sounds like some grim foreshadowing..
@okay9407
@okay9407 2 жыл бұрын
Me and all my homies hate jimmy and kim. Rip howard
@bathcat3759
@bathcat3759 2 жыл бұрын
I knew when Jimmy and Kim’s plan went off without a hitch something bad was going to happen. But I did not expect that, I must admit. Howard was an amazing character and one of the best in the universe
@modenavigationprivee1227
@modenavigationprivee1227 Жыл бұрын
Howard was such an interesting character to me it was sad to see him go though
@ButtersCCookie
@ButtersCCookie 2 жыл бұрын
Real tough stance there on Kimmy and Jimmy.
@thomascolauto
@thomascolauto 2 жыл бұрын
poor howard! :(
@Yung_Jesus
@Yung_Jesus 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn’t say they ruined his life, lalo did.
@youtubeman2001
@youtubeman2001 Жыл бұрын
Lalo took his life. Jimmy and Kim ruined it
@beakyturf6336
@beakyturf6336 Жыл бұрын
So similar to Walter and Hank. I hated Hank and loved Walter at the start of Breaking Bad. I hated Walt and loved Hank at the end of Breaking Bad. I loved Jimmy at the start of BCS and hated Howard. I hated jimmy and loved Howard at the end of BCS. Tell I'm crazy here.....but i don't think I'm wrong.
@fruity8656
@fruity8656 2 жыл бұрын
These videos are holding me down until July 11th
@fruity8656
@fruity8656 2 жыл бұрын
Rand Casemiro spoke like a wise man
@trevia9941
@trevia9941 Жыл бұрын
You have to remember the older seasons when thinking about why. Jimmy had thought that Howard was the one that didn’t want him at HHM and that when offered the job after Chuck passed, that it was out of pity. Almost like a smack in the face. We know Chuck made it seem like Howard was the one who didn’t like Jimmy but from Jimmys perspective, it was years of hate from Howard. Jimmy literally lived in a nail salon because he didn’t have the money because in his mind Howard wouldn’t let him in. Jimmy thought Howard was the one who was ruining his life for so long and that this was his way of fighting back. Finally getting revenge. He wanted Howard ruined because in his mind Howard had ruined him for so long.
@PlacidSine
@PlacidSine 2 жыл бұрын
Kims u turn basically killed howard
@JimNH777
@JimNH777 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention motivations at all. Why did they do it - that's the most important part about characters development. It seems Jimmy does it for fun (Chicago times) or to help people (Kim mainly - mr acker, mesa verde) or even for himself to help his career or money or ambition. That's why he wasn't keen on doing that scheme on Howard at the beginning. Kim on the other hand - ... fucking hell.
@TheVividKiWi
@TheVividKiWi 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll be doing a separate video on why Jimmy and Kim “hate” Howard 👍🏻
@84Actionjack
@84Actionjack Жыл бұрын
Can't forget that Jimmy didn't want to do this con and tried several times to back out. This is essentially Kim's con.
@secondcomingofbast9908
@secondcomingofbast9908 2 жыл бұрын
I'm seeing 157 comments listed under the video but when I click I can't see a single one of thrm.
@wojurera3131
@wojurera3131 2 жыл бұрын
It's worth noting that Kim literally drives a U turn Through the mud↩️⛔️⚠️➿️ What Jimmy and Kim did to Howard was horrible, and I literally wanted to give Howard a hug, he deserved to have a much better life. Despite his wealth and status, he sought to be a good man😔
@konglee4632
@konglee4632 Жыл бұрын
Might just be me but I believe Howard mirrored Hank from Bb at first they were assholes, but turns out they were the good guy all along
@x8abood3
@x8abood3 2 жыл бұрын
poor Howard 💔💔
@ericbosken3114
@ericbosken3114 2 жыл бұрын
I did not see Howard's brutal end coming. I thought the liquid would transfer to Irene from the wheel chair and give her a stroke or heart attack
@dumfriesspearhead7398
@dumfriesspearhead7398 Жыл бұрын
It still might. Maybe there was a reason (other than greed) for Howard putting Irene in the wheelchair.
@ObeyKarl
@ObeyKarl 2 жыл бұрын
Is Howard going to be the reason Mike is in the body disposal business??
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck was so right and his death is also super sad. He saw all this from miles away to the point where it drove him literally insane and take his own life.
@mickk8519
@mickk8519 2 жыл бұрын
Chuck had the chance to help Jimmy, and nurture Jimmy. Do you forget what chuck did to Jimmy around their mothers death? Chuck always despised Jimmy, he was jealous of Jimmy having their mothers love, so, Chuck was every bit to blame, although Jimmy was a bad boy in his younger days, Chuck turned Jimmy into what he became, he never gave the adult Jimmy a chance to prove his worth.
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickk8519 Jimmy didn’t know that Chuck witheld his mother’s last words so how exactly does that make Jimmy’s behavior Chuck’s responsibility?
@hashvendetta7226
@hashvendetta7226 Жыл бұрын
@@LesterBrunt it's more than that. He deliberately hamstrung Jimmy's success and cut off a path his life would take that could have cemented him as legitimate. By doing what he did, he basically made it a self fulfilling prophecy. It's ridiculous best way to get Jimmy to straighten out was to ruin his career and get him disbarred. You need to remember. Jimmy never intentionally hurt chuck or Howard in the beginning. They, however, did. They made it a point to stop Jimmy from bettering himself all because his brother thought he didn't deserve it.
@InfectedJello
@InfectedJello 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Howard 😭
@vrabo3026
@vrabo3026 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so conflicted by Howard's death. On one hand, he didn't deserve it whatsoever, it's no far with Walter Jr. being bullied in school, abandoned by his parents, thrown into legal trouble by Hank and then killed. But on the other hand... if he didn't die the way he did, Jimmy and Kim would've NEVER felt guilty over what they did to him.
@patriciaw636
@patriciaw636 2 жыл бұрын
Thats assuming they actually do feel guilty.. They were out to absolutely wreck this mans personal and professional life.
@hashvendetta7226
@hashvendetta7226 Жыл бұрын
Wait, I'm confused. What happened to walt jr?
@AMD7027
@AMD7027 Жыл бұрын
I think Howard landed on his face not feet.
@leonfontius5300
@leonfontius5300 2 жыл бұрын
20:35 This didn't age well at all 😐 "yes I will always land on my feet"
@stepha2642
@stepha2642 Жыл бұрын
They are now guilty of involuntary manslaughter. They aren't going to declare Howard's death a suicide and just leave it at that. They're going to try to determine what would motivate him to do it. They will talk to many people who will tell them "Howard was acting strangely and claiming that Kim and Jimmy are setting him up" They will then talk to the film crew who will admit to taking the photos (they aren't in trouble as they had little to no idea what was going on) then they will talk to the people at the club who will confirm Jimmy was there and making a huge scene. The same day his career was ruined he kept saying "I didn't do this" he shows up to Kim and Jimmy's apartment where he was "inebriated and not making any sense" he then allegedly drove to the beach and killed himself. They did a very poor job with both planning and execution.
@torvaldf7864
@torvaldf7864 2 жыл бұрын
I love your videos but can you please change up the background music? It loops over and over and it makes them hard to listen to (even though the soundtrack is fire).
@TheVividKiWi
@TheVividKiWi 2 жыл бұрын
I can never find anything that fits, but maybe someday thanks to YT music studio. I know that if I ever do I’ll get equal complaints as I did when I changed my intro music lol.
@torvaldf7864
@torvaldf7864 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheVividKiWi true lol
@mickk8519
@mickk8519 2 жыл бұрын
KZfaq shows you have 153 comments, where are they? I can't see one?
@beakyturf6336
@beakyturf6336 Жыл бұрын
Patrick Fabien should win all the awards for this performance....no joke. (edit because i forgot).....He literally stole the show.
@stepha2642
@stepha2642 Жыл бұрын
Season 6 kills off all of the main characters. Every. Single. One.
@rejectionisprotection4448
@rejectionisprotection4448 Жыл бұрын
Apart from Jimmy.
@dry-bones
@dry-bones Жыл бұрын
I don't get why mike only told Kim about Lalo.
@rejectionisprotection4448
@rejectionisprotection4448 Жыл бұрын
He said that she was stronger than Jimmy. Less liable to panic.
@shannonmayer18
@shannonmayer18 2 жыл бұрын
I always knew that Howard was going to win that boxing match. Physical things are not Sauls' strong suit. What about anyon e else? What did you think?
@rejectionisprotection4448
@rejectionisprotection4448 Жыл бұрын
Howard wanted Jimmy on his territory where he could beat him (quite literally). It's a really old fashioned way of dealing with things, but it shows what Howard is about.
@skyleague9844
@skyleague9844 2 жыл бұрын
For the Season 6 tier list, instead of making one just for the first seven episodes why not wait until the whole season is over to do it all at once? We’re only four weeks away from the return, and I’m sure the Seasons 3-5 tier lists + whatever else you have planned will be enough to pass the time by
@TheVividKiWi
@TheVividKiWi 2 жыл бұрын
I want to split up s6 Cus there’s more episodes this season and more to talk about but we’ll see if I can get the other tier lists done in time
@margarethmichelina5146
@margarethmichelina5146 Жыл бұрын
Howard is basically Hank in BCS. They both are just regular guy who just doing their jobs but the protagonists (Walt in BB and Jimmy/ Saul in BCS) become greedy for money and power, they have to work extra hard to outsmart them. In Hank's case, Walt tried to fool him many times that he is not Heisenberg and Hank missed this while in Howard's case, Jimmy has to proof himself that he is a capable lawyer because Howard is just like Chuck, not trusting Jimmy 100%. After losing Hank, Walt's life becomes a downward spiral, his family hates him, he betrayed Jesse to Neo Nazi and he becomes a wanted man. Meanwhile, after losing Howard, Jimmy broke up with Kim and decided to cope his grief with his Saul Goodman persona only later he got involved with Walter White, and run away to be Gene Takavic. Walt paid his consequences by dying in gun shots while Jimmy paid his consequences by going to prison for 86 years.
@chonchjohnch
@chonchjohnch Жыл бұрын
Howard deserved better
@darkrider962
@darkrider962 2 жыл бұрын
Was it ever explained exactly _how_ Jimmy ensured that the PI Howard hired was specifically the one that was actually working for Jimmy? Absolutely love the show but that seems really farfetched unless the actual explanation just flew over my head!
@TheVividKiWi
@TheVividKiWi 2 жыл бұрын
It was specifically the fake PI’s number
@hashvendetta7226
@hashvendetta7226 Жыл бұрын
They plant his contact info with the secretary
The delivery rescued them
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