How Königsberg became Kaliningrad

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How did German Königsberg become Soviet Kaliningrad? This video gives a detailed overview of the city’s history from 1945 to 1970 and discusses the ideologies behind it, the material problems and why certain, rather controversial decisions were made.
Sources:
- Brodersen, Per: Die Stadt im Westen. Wie Königsberg Kaliningrad wurde, Göttingen 2008.
- Freeman, Jamie: From German Königsberg to Soviet Kaliningrad. Appropriating Place and Constructing Identity, Oxford & New York 2021.
- Gal’cova, Svetlana: Die Geschichte des Kaliningrader Gebietes in der sowjetischen Forschung, in: Nordost-Archiv. Zeitschrift für Regionalgeschichte 3 (1994), H. 2, S. 495-506.
- Hoppe, Bert: Auf den Trümmern von Königsberg. Kaliningrad 1946-1970, München 2000.
- Kossert, Andreas: Damals in Ostpreußen. Der Untergang einer deutschen Provinz, München 2010.
- Sezneva, Olga: Living in the Russian Present with a German Past. The Problems of Identity in the City of Kaliningrad, in: Crowley, David & Reid, Susan E. (Hg): Socialist Spaces. Sites of Everyday Life in Eastern Bloc, Oxford 2002, S. 47-64.
- Smith, Mark B.: Khrushchev’s promise to eliminate the urban housing shortage. Rights, rationality and the communist future, in: Ilic, Melanie & Smith, Jeremy (Hg.): Soviet State and Society Under Nikita Khrushchev, London 2009.
Music Used:
Dvorak - Serenade for Strings
Hallen - Die Toteninsel
Sibelius - Cassazione
Tchaikovsky - Valse Sentimentale
Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:41 Königsberg in Ruins
2:57 A New History of East Prussia
4:48 First Architectural Plans
8:07 The Housing Problem
10:39 Monuments
12:13 The Fate of The Königsberg Castle
14:49 The Current Situation
15:43 Outro

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@christiandevey3898
@christiandevey3898 Жыл бұрын
The most important question is, can you walk across all the bridges in Kaliningrad while only crossing each bridge only once.
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
Pre war it was impossible, but most of the famous bridges are destroyed, and they put the highway through the middle of the old towns, so… yes, you can.
@icrushchildrensdreams4556
@icrushchildrensdreams4556 Жыл бұрын
I’ve won… But at what cost?
@user-fl2ox5me8c
@user-fl2ox5me8c 11 ай бұрын
WELL NO PROBLEM THAT IS MAGIC JOKE.. I'M RUSSIAN LIVE HERE SINCE 1956.. TOO MUCH PEOPLE TRY IT... THAT*S SOPHISTICS..
@OtherlingQueen
@OtherlingQueen 11 ай бұрын
@@Vitalis94based soviets
@Icetea-2000
@Icetea-2000 11 ай бұрын
@@OtherlingQueenWhy? They live in it now, it’s their problem if they make it a shithole
@franklinclinton4539
@franklinclinton4539 Жыл бұрын
Kaliningrad suffered the same fate as Vyborg. Most of the old city was left to ruin, and drowned in concrete.
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
A combination of ideology, lack of funding and the mentality. The communist ideal had cities rebuilt in the “new model”, with modernist architecture in mind. It wasn’t exclusive to communist states, as brutalist architecture and car dependency was favoured by many architects after the war. The lack of funding and the need to quickly rebuild, get people houses, also resulted in the infamous commie blocks. Lastly, as an imperial, conquering power, they just don’t care about the city’s history, so the government didn’t want to rebuild using the historical style. I don’t know about Vyborg, but many local architects tried to rebuild Kaliningrad in the historical style, so it’s not like no one cared.
@TheGrace020
@TheGrace020 Жыл бұрын
always the same with those damn russians no respect no honor.
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
At least the Library in Vyborg is kept the way Saarinen meant it to be
@jimmothy3012
@jimmothy3012 Жыл бұрын
A very large amount of vyborg/viipuri citizens stick speak Finnish, 94% i believe. However the city itself is just and ugly soviet city
@Krushnow
@Krushnow Жыл бұрын
Viborg, Sweden's bastion against the east. Long it held them at bay, truly a tragic tale.
@alexanderdergachev4822
@alexanderdergachev4822 11 ай бұрын
I am from Russian Kaliningrad myself, and the deportation of German population has always been a controversial topic within our city. Funnily my mother would usually argue strongly against it. In an ironic twist of events, my stepsister from Kharkiv had to seek refuge in Germany after the Russian invasion of Ukraine. The family that hosts her happens to be descendants of people departed from East Prussia, and one of the reasons they decided to host Ukrainian refugees was their own ancestors’ troublesome experience.
@patryk3019
@patryk3019 11 ай бұрын
Soviet people has tendency to autodestruction.
@andriyshepard3095
@andriyshepard3095 11 ай бұрын
russians@@patryk3019
@flopunkt3665
@flopunkt3665 10 ай бұрын
Don't a lot of current day inhabitants of Kaliningrad have roots in Ukraine?
@andriyshepard3095
@andriyshepard3095 10 ай бұрын
maybe, but complete majority are russians@@flopunkt3665
@user-lj7gb4vi4t
@user-lj7gb4vi4t 10 ай бұрын
It’s strange that you are from Russia, but instead of Kharkov you use Kharkiv.
@christianheller551
@christianheller551 6 ай бұрын
My mother was born in Königsberg in 1931. Her name was Edith Ruth Perrey, she had two sibling. Reinhold and Christa Perrey. Their parents were Willy Franz Perrey and Grete Dorothea Perrey (Krause). Perhaps someone reading my comment knows of their family. My mother told me about her home town. It was a beautiful city according to her tales. She told me about where they lived on Schröter Strasse. She also told me about the bombing raids that destroyed Königsberg. Her tales of leaving toward western parts of Germany via Danzig and then a ship toward Kiel. She, her siblings, her mother and grandmother settled in Wedel (Schleswig Holstein) where my elder sister and I were born. Thank you for this video. It showed me some images prior to WW2 which I enjoyed. It's where my roots lie.
@erichamilton3373
@erichamilton3373 2 ай бұрын
My mom was from HH...but with East Prussian roots in part...from near Goldap.
@P4Tri0t420
@P4Tri0t420 11 ай бұрын
Wow the "House of the Soviets" looks like a piece of sh** which replaced a beautiful and very old Castle
@iachelovek-ib8rw
@iachelovek-ib8rw 10 ай бұрын
It is already being demolished
@P4Tri0t420
@P4Tri0t420 10 ай бұрын
@@iachelovek-ib8rw Thanks didnt know that
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
If only I had the power to change it back.
@P4Tri0t420
@P4Tri0t420 Ай бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 🙏
@sanneoi6323
@sanneoi6323 Жыл бұрын
Someone proposed to build a house of soviets in the style of a beautiful university in Moscow only for the castle to later be demolished and replaced with that horrific eyesore of a house of soviets wtf If only they got to rebuild it in a beautiful way like the guy planned
@diesesphil
@diesesphil 11 ай бұрын
they just could have used the Königsberg Castle as the foundation of the House of slavs, making both sides happy
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
​@@diesesphilI think being a city park is better. both buildings are symbols of power. better not to build
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
@@diesesphil We baltic people would not be happy.
@wetwillyis_1881
@wetwillyis_1881 Жыл бұрын
I know you try to stick to Germanic History, but since you talked about Soviet city building or in this case, rebuilding, the construction of Magnitogorsk is a super unique story. It was modeled after Pittsburgh PA and Gary Indiana, here in the USA. Stalin wanted to have an ideal steel city, and he that’s why it was the way it was. If I remember correctly, the apartments were built without kitchens, in order to allow women to be liberated into the work place.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Жыл бұрын
Modeling a city after Pittsburg? 💀
@wetwillyis_1881
@wetwillyis_1881 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenfiberwheat238 There ain't nothing wrong with Pittsburgh. It's the greatest city in the world. Also, you forgot the H.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Жыл бұрын
@@wetwillyis_1881 cope
@riograndedosulball248
@riograndedosulball248 Жыл бұрын
...where were they supposed to prepare food then?
@wetwillyis_1881
@wetwillyis_1881 Жыл бұрын
@@riograndedosulball248 That's the neat part, they didn't. If I remember correctly, in typical soviet fashion, they didn't think about that.
@Wn9618
@Wn9618 Жыл бұрын
Another absolutely awesome topic which I’ve pondered about for ages - you keep delivering the best content I’ve seen in a long time and deserve all the praise you’re getting recently
@SirManateee
@SirManateee Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much :)
@kampfkartoffel8994
@kampfkartoffel8994 Жыл бұрын
Very nice video as always!
@tavishnundoo6002
@tavishnundoo6002 Жыл бұрын
Your channel is one of the best things I discovered this year.
@HistoryHustle
@HistoryHustle Жыл бұрын
Very interesting video. Keep up the good work!
@SirManateee
@SirManateee Жыл бұрын
Will do, thanks :)
@enricobortolazzo2651
@enricobortolazzo2651 11 ай бұрын
Excellent video, well done!
@vinesauceobscurities
@vinesauceobscurities Жыл бұрын
Funny how the Konigsberg castle was seen as a symbol of Prussian/German aggression, and then the Soviets proceeded to replace it with the House of the Soviet, which itself became a symbol of Soviet spite and incompetency.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
I think being a city park is better. both buildings are symbols of power. better not to build anything
@ionpopescu3167
@ionpopescu3167 11 ай бұрын
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa I mean a lot of things are symbols of powers lol. At least the castle looked cool af.
@nxs3374
@nxs3374 10 ай бұрын
And how many millions of Russians were killed during the controlled famine times … I question why that is never mentioned . Talk about aggression on its own people … let alone Europe. But that is war and it just trickles down …
@danbaltic9678
@danbaltic9678 10 ай бұрын
Also Lithuanian architects sent proposals to save the castle. Even though originally it was constructed to fight lithuanians
@losabias4723
@losabias4723 7 ай бұрын
​@@hanzeuro28as an architect I can tell you the House of Soviets was built to replace German roots since this was meant to show poder through bulding
@karthago1469
@karthago1469 Жыл бұрын
I just recently stumbled upon your channel. Very well researched and entertaining too! Have a nice weekend!
@Ciech_mate
@Ciech_mate 6 ай бұрын
Great video mate, thank you!
@antonolo4670
@antonolo4670 11 ай бұрын
Interestingly enough not a single new apartment was built in Kaliningrad until 1960. Before this it was all renovations of former German buildings in Constructivist Stalin era styles as seen on Prospekt Mira where there are 3 story German renovated apartments with Soviet ornamentations. The main reason why nothing new was built before 1960 is the fact that the Soviet government weren't sure if the territory would stay in the RSFSR or be granted to the Lithuanian SSR or Poland. After 1960 it was decided that Kaliningrad would stay in the RSFSR and the first Kruschyovka apartment blocks were constructed- but not in the outskirts, on top of the ruins of the old town as seen on Leninsky Prospekt and Ulitsa Proletarskaya. During the Brezhnev years massive housing expansions occurred and tall 9 floor Brezhnevkas were constructed outside the bounds of what had been Old Konigsberg as seen on Moskovsky Prospekt. Despite these expansions the city was still littered by many ruins most of which stayed until the 2000s. It seems that Kaliningrad was never really invested into during the Soviet era- its infrastructure was too complex, too costly, its future was too uncertain, and its history was too German.
@FekalistaGrzybowory-lz8lh
@FekalistaGrzybowory-lz8lh 10 ай бұрын
As a Pole I regret that Kaliningrad Exclave wasn't given to Poland 😭
@antonolo4670
@antonolo4670 10 ай бұрын
@@FekalistaGrzybowory-lz8lh yes, but to be fair Poland was given loads of Land after the war anyway- Bydgoszcz, Gdańsk, and the Western regions were all once German. Not forgetting that Poland got the south of East Prussia. I think it would have been interesting if Kaliningrad created its own state/SSR or ASSR and tried to respect the history of the region in a new lense rather than building over it.
@kyleschafer6275
@kyleschafer6275 9 ай бұрын
​@antonolo4670 Would've been interesting to see a Prussia SSR with respect of its history (maybe a new home for the Volga Germans as Stalin hated them). Post Cold War would've been interesting if they would've joined Germany, Poland, or become an independent state. Instead it became Kallingrad, a city being an example why soviet communism is absolute shit. A boring city with its heart ripped out and replaced with a depressing concrete center.
@sergiy01
@sergiy01 9 ай бұрын
Also, I would like to add that in Soviet times a very large number of the German paving stones were removed from Kaliningrad to Riga and Leningrad.
@legitplayin6977
@legitplayin6977 Жыл бұрын
Everybody knows it’s rightful Czech clay
@Yuyo545
@Yuyo545 Жыл бұрын
maybe you should czech your sources
@quantranminh9203
@quantranminh9203 Жыл бұрын
@@Yuyo545 we've czech-ed, of course, what was founded by king Ottokar II is rightful Czech clay
@gerbrandt7213
@gerbrandt7213 Жыл бұрын
​@@quantranminh9203 it was not. It was founded by teutonic knights who named it Königsberg in honor of a bohemian noble who helped them in their campaigns
@andso2152
@andso2152 Жыл бұрын
@@gerbrandt7213 They've founded it on ground of old Prussian settlement "Twangste" and in honor of not some noble but king Ottokar II who helped in their crusades immensely
@gerbrandt7213
@gerbrandt7213 Жыл бұрын
@@andso2152 yeah of course it's a reasonable argument. I guess it depends how far back in history you want to go. the baltic fortress twangste existed, but I wouldn't say it had a significant influence on the development of the city Königsberg.
@darkbrightnorth
@darkbrightnorth Жыл бұрын
Yet another great video
@starkillerdude1914
@starkillerdude1914 Жыл бұрын
This sorta shows that even if you deport a native population and destroy its culture, it still shows its presence
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
No it doesnt. Kēningsberg doesnt exist anymore only Kaļiņingrad does.
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! The Soviet arguments about East Prussia (the original Prussia) being "an ancient Slavic soil" is so hilarious. 1. Because it's an example of extreme, almost mystical, backward-looking ethnonationalism comming from the alleged "progressive" internationalists. 2. Because the Old Prussians were obviously and indisputably Blats (like Lithuanians and Latvians), not Slavs. Although the Baltic and Slavic peoples are relatively closely related deep down, certainly closer with each other than with the Germanic peoples (speaking mostly in linguistic categories).
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
Well, seeing how the Soviets/Russians viewed the other Balts, it isn’t that suprising.
@esteebangus
@esteebangus Жыл бұрын
Also, to add, East Prussia had significant Lithuanian heritage, culture, language and contributions to Lithuania and other European countries up to the early 20th century.
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't have put it better myself, whether the Prussian language went extinct is debatable insofar that it fell out of public use completely. A restored version exists today (I happen to learn it) - it had to loan quite a bit of vocabulary as a result from Lithuanian. Of all Baltic and Slavic languages nawaprūsiskan is arguably the most archaic - meaning that it retains old linguistic features that fell out of use in other languages and can be considered to be the language that retains the most Indo-European features.
@user-sp6lo3wp5u
@user-sp6lo3wp5u Жыл бұрын
Генетика подтверждает, что восточные немцы и русские имели общих предков. Конституция Великого княжества Литовского была написана кириллицей на русском языке, эти люди позже стали белорусами.
@Oberschutzee
@Oberschutzee Жыл бұрын
@@user-sp6lo3wp5u 🤣🤣
@ussom1377
@ussom1377 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting topic since as of recently Poland renamed Kaliningrad to Królewiec which afaik is the polish translation of Königsberg
@SamAronow
@SamAronow Жыл бұрын
That's always been its name in Polish; the English Jewish surname Krulwich comes from it.
@gerbrandt7213
@gerbrandt7213 Жыл бұрын
Germany should do the same lmao
@quan-uo5ws
@quan-uo5ws Жыл бұрын
@@gerbrandt7213 Thats not how its works, you cant just rename a city if you arent controlling it. Poland is just being a smartass and trowing a fit over the name because they hate Russia.
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
@@quan-uo5ws Um, but exonyms exist? People use different names all the time? Sometimes they even force different nations to use those, like Turkey for example.
@quan-uo5ws
@quan-uo5ws Жыл бұрын
Yeah but that isnt "renaming".
@OffGridInvestor
@OffGridInvestor 2 ай бұрын
I was ALWAYS INTERESTED in this as it was a fully German coty that became fully Russian. I saw a doco on it of a jewish German who went back to see if his grandfathers brock factory still remained. It was TOTALLY soviet era buildings with the factory completely gone.
@gmicg
@gmicg 11 ай бұрын
Superb!
@NoSTs123
@NoSTs123 11 ай бұрын
What a sad place it has become.
@NoSTs123
@NoSTs123 11 ай бұрын
It is always the reactionary fanatics who destroy without thinking.
@steffenrosmus9177
@steffenrosmus9177 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention the nuclear waste deployed in the Kaliningrad Oblast since 1956.
@greyfells2829
@greyfells2829 10 ай бұрын
​@@NoSTs123don't think you're using that word correctly. The soviets were a lot of bad things, but it's usually us monarchists that are labeled reactionary, for a desire to return to older ways.
@NoSTs123
@NoSTs123 10 ай бұрын
@@greyfells2829 ok
@magnumass
@magnumass 10 ай бұрын
Karaliaucius - original baltic name. Still has Lithuanian walls in the city
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
I always find it funny how Königsberg is present in the mainstream perception, viewed almost like this Baltic Atlantis, once magnificent city, lost to history. And while yeah, the city looked quite good, people are focused on this one city. Why no one cares about Allenstein, Tilsit, Marienburg? Königsberg was the biggest city in the region, but it seems like the rest of East Prussia isn’t even acknowledged by the people who even know about it’s existance. Seems like no one cries for Allenstein. Is it because it looks better right now? I mean, I get it, it was the capital of the province, but it looks like Polish and Lithuanian parts of the regions don’t get the same recognition, and it just makes me sad as a Masurian. :P
@gerbrandt7213
@gerbrandt7213 Жыл бұрын
Maybe because the city of Königsberg was a very important city in German and Prussian history. Also the before/after pictures of the city are shocking. In Poland and Lithuania buildings got more preserved
@countdown4725
@countdown4725 Жыл бұрын
Compare Marienburg castle today to Königsberg castle today to find your answer
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
@@countdown4725 Funny you mention Marienburg, because just outside the castle, there are commie blocks where the old town used to be. Although they are rebuilding the riverside houses at the moment. So not that different from Kaliningrad itself.
@bahnspotterEU
@bahnspotterEU Жыл бұрын
@@Vitalis94 Unlike the Soviets/Russians, the Poles have approached their (partially newly gained) cities with far more respect. Of course there are big reminders of communist rule everywhere in Poland, but most cities also had their historic centres faithfully rebuilt/preserved after the war. That‘s why there is little point to lament the fate of Olsztyn, because it‘s not so bad at all. Königsberg died in 1945 as both a city and a concept. The other cities didn‘t. They merely experienced a nationality change.
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
@@bahnspotterEU True, you could argue that Kaliningrad is a completely different city. Funnily enough, Kaliningrad and Königsberg have separate wiki entries in German wikipedia. Modern Kaliningrad is much bigger than Königsberg ever was, and while the pre war city was densly populated and centered around historical core, this historical core of modern Kaliningrad is mostly empty, full of parks and highways. Instead, modern Kaliningrad city centre lies where the pre-war outskirts were. And yeah, Poland has seen the surge of rennovations in the last years. I’m just not too happy with it’s direction - it mostly immitates the pre war styles, more akin to Frankfurts rennovations, than those of Warsaw or even Gdansk.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un 10 ай бұрын
That whole House of Soviets in Kaliningrad not coming to fruition reminds me of the fact Moscow didn't get the Palace of the Soviets! It was supposed to be a 416-metre-tall palace that was to house sessions of the Supreme Soviet in its 130-metre wide and 100-metre tall grand hall seating over 20,000 people, built on the site of the demolished Cathedral of Christ the Saviour. If built, it would have become the world's tallest structure. The German invasion in June 1941 ended the project, with engineers and workers diverted to defense projects or join the army, and the structural steel was disassembled. A swimming pool was built on the site by 1960, and after the USSR collapsed, the cathedral was rebuilt and consecrated in 2000. The territory is neither Russian nor German! The land rightfully belongs to Bolivia! Bolivia has been yearning to have a coastline again, and this would give them the economic boost they need! It is a peaceful solution that wouldn't cause any violence once they see the alpacas, and I'm sure the locals will welcome their new Agwa and Yerba Mate overlords! They should take the rest of the world's coastline while they're at it. Chile may be known as hogging up South American coastline, but Bolivia will get its revenge.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
No, the land belongs to Baltija.
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
@SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Ай бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 The Bolivia thing is a joke lol
@pax_carburendiana
@pax_carburendiana 6 ай бұрын
The Prussian architecture was beautiful 😢
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
You mean german, prūši lived in simple log houses with thached roofs.
@pax_carburendiana
@pax_carburendiana Ай бұрын
@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Lol right.
@745niklay
@745niklay Жыл бұрын
Hello! Thank you for a very good video about my city. You are a true historian for not trying to manipulate the facts and opinions. I see a lot of Europeans are rooting for restoration of historical buildings but the biggest problem is funding, it's extremely difficult to attract investors to rebuild some 100x100 meters ruins in the middle of nowhere. But the good thing is that the cities are slowly getting renovated and repaired, sometimes when I take a ride around the region I can see the small towns actually begin to look better and not like 10 years ago.
@diesesphil
@diesesphil 11 ай бұрын
I hope that is true! Part of my family was originally from Königsberg and were sad to see what happened to it
@jontalbot1
@jontalbot1 10 ай бұрын
That is interesting. In the UK we have had laws to protect historic buildings ( for aesthetic and social reasons) since 1947. The cost of repair is on average five times greater because of the materials and skilled labour they require. But there is no problem finding commercial owners for such buildings as they add prestige to the business. This is especially the case for banks who like to have the best buildings in town to suggest stability, continuity and wealth
@jcoker423
@jcoker423 7 ай бұрын
@@jontalbot1 Coventry was a gem of a medieval city, sure the Luftwaffe destroyed alot, but much more was destroyed between 1925 and 1960 by the town planners. I've even seen models from the 1930's which look like today's Precincts. If the Germans can rebuild Dresden and the Frauenkirke you'd really think the British could rebuild Coventry
@jontalbot1
@jontalbot1 7 ай бұрын
@@jcoker423 Yes l know it was a fine medieval city before it was bombed. Personally l agree with the grouping of what was left in Spon Street. I also think the ring road and precincts a good idea so that driving around Cov is a lot easier than most cities while the centre is fine to walk around. The detailing of the individual buildings is poor as it was everywhere in the 50s and 60s. I dislike the modern cathedral but again nothing much built anywhere at that time was much good. The centres of Southampton, Portsmouth and Plymouth are all pretty bad. If you want to good examples, visit Leeds, Liverpool and especially Manchester. It looks like Manhattan from a distance but they have invested in good quality design
@jcoker423
@jcoker423 7 ай бұрын
I am sure you know there was push back about relocating old buildings to Spon St as opposed to leave them be. But I'm pleased they did. There was also concern about the demolition of Butchers Row in the 1920's. Gibson already had plans in the 1930 for the redevelopment on the center. I'm with you over the new Cathedral, vrs making one of the other 3 spires the Cathedral. It is impressive, but I find it soulless. You like the Ring Road (which follows the old walls)? Well may Dad (born Holbrooks) was the site manager for Gallifords for 5/6 sections. So I am invested in liking it. Dad did say there should have been 2 ring roads (which I think there are now), with one outside the greater city. But at the time it was all about the CBD. Today I think we'd make the central area trams/walking with parking by the inner ring road and with a lovely medieval city like York given over to sights and student accommodation. Shopping malls on the edge of the city. All in hindsight. The English didn't have the foresight or money after WW2. I also have family ties to Guz and Pompey and visited them in the 70's, with my parents. Yup, L'pool, Man seemed to have retained their character. Hopefully I'll get back to Blighty in the next couple of years and some soccer, Pompey, Plym or the Sky Blues. Rgds. J
@peterasp1968
@peterasp1968 11 ай бұрын
It was a very good presentation, and your channel deserves more viewers than it has so far. My small suggestion is that you should concentrate on German political history, especially of the formative 19th century and also the 20th century.But you should not keep beating your chest all the time for "German aggression" since most European countries did it. Spain did it in South America, France did it in Haiti and North Africa, Belgium did it in the Congo, and the British did it equally badly in India from the famine of 1773 to that of 1943. None of them have given apologies as Germans have given, and I feel that Germany should draw a line somewhere. But keeping that aside, please give us more such videos from a German perspective. Something on the Austro-Prussia relations between 1814 to 1815 or on the course of German unification.
@durango.j-onez
@durango.j-onez 5 ай бұрын
We've got a little Hitler here
@paulwebbiweb
@paulwebbiweb 11 ай бұрын
Sir Manatee has a fascinating English accent, which I (British English language teacher) find impossible to place. "Soviet" sounds almost like "Surviet" and dove (the bird) comes out rhyimg with "drove" (instead of with "love"), but in general it sounds like that of a native speaker who has sinus problems. Where is this man from?
@user-fl2ox5me8c
@user-fl2ox5me8c 11 ай бұрын
WELL THAT*S SOCIAL DEMOCRATS ORGANIZATION FROM SWEEZATLAND... TOO MUCH PROJECTS HAVE DONE BY THAM THAT IS WHY PRONOUNCE ENGLISH WITH SWEESS ACSENT... I'M RUSSIAN little bit speak English & understand & agree with YOU CONGRATULATION FROM KONIGSBERG /КАЛИНИНГРАД НIS NAME IS BULU /HAL:OCHEN /HISTORY STUDENT FROM CENTRAL DOUICHLAND... SIR MANATEE IS NICKNAME OF CHAN IN KZfaq /ЛАМАНТИН ТАКОЙ МЛЕКОПИТ СЕВЕРНЫХ МОРЕЙ /... I HAVE BEEN IN USA CANADA UK ANGOLA... ECT & KNOW HOW SPEAK ENGLISH HERE THERE & EVERYWHERE...
@sandraobrien8705
@sandraobrien8705 4 ай бұрын
Sounds Scandinavian to me.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
You do realize his german, right? Id bet hes from Hesse.
@thegamingrhino5864
@thegamingrhino5864 Ай бұрын
His channel says central germany
@wolfgangpagel6989
@wolfgangpagel6989 Жыл бұрын
The use of "VEB" at 9:30 as a distinct name of a company is wrong. VEB means people owned factory and every single company in the GDR had that in the name. It needs an additional name behind.
@tHYRR3N
@tHYRR3N 10 ай бұрын
The ethnic erasure of baltic germans a historical fact almost never talked about.
@PerryKobalt
@PerryKobalt 7 ай бұрын
Baltic German are just German Lebensraum Colonists
@MenwithHill
@MenwithHill 6 ай бұрын
It's adressed exactly as much as most other forms of ethnic cleansing of the era.
@durango.j-onez
@durango.j-onez 5 ай бұрын
Nor the natives of the region at the hands of the Germans
@durango.j-onez
@durango.j-onez 5 ай бұрын
Nor is the ethnic erasure of the native prussians at the hands of the German teutons
@rudolfkraffzick642
@rudolfkraffzick642 3 ай бұрын
Officialy and in the big media not or very few mentioned. But through millions cases of intermarriages between expelled eastern Germans and other Germans in former West Germany and the German Democratic Republic (DDR) this history is widespreadly known within the German people.
@mithrandil420
@mithrandil420 Жыл бұрын
Briliant video, keep going with this fantastic less coverd and special topics.
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
I visited the city in 1996 and while there you would see people visiting from Germany wandering around with pictures of locations of where they lived. I was told that Immanual Kant is Russian and his philosophy was Russian!!!! Its a very sad place
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 Жыл бұрын
Immanuel Kant was not at all Russian. The reason he was so esteemed in Russia was because he became a member of the Russian academy of sciences late in his life and was popular with the tsar. if you want to dig into the nitty gritty his maternal side were Bavarian colonists from Nuremberg while his paternal side was Prussian-Curonian (the Baltic kind). Ethnically he was not linked to Russia.
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
@@aniinnrchoque1861 I am relieved that the frustration you feel is revealed and vented. I grew up studying Kant and the seven bridges of Konigsberg and seeing a place ripped apart and then mocked as a cautionary tale was enough. If the Russians return the city to the way it was in 1939 would hardly do justice to the heritage and spirit of the place
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 Жыл бұрын
@@Luxnutz1 yeah, I went there in 2016 and there is some good some bad - but mostly bad imo. I am learning nawaprūsiskan now and hope to help bring back Baltic Prussian culture from pre-colonial times.
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
@@aniinnrchoque1861 Revival of both parts of what was the Order of the Teutonc knights taken by Russia and Poland be restored to a degree. The Brick Castles and structures made by craftsmen who could neither read or write that were beautiful sight to see gone out of spite
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 Жыл бұрын
@@Luxnutz1 yeah Poland has done a half decent job. Unfortunately (or perhaps unsurprisingly given history) Poland is ultra nationalistic, trying to consolidate all the territory it controls as homogeneous as possible. As such numbers of other minorities such as semi native Kashubians and Silesians have gone down and their cultural-linguistic heritage is not encouraged, much less in western Pomerania and Dolnyslaske where both of these were present until German assimilation pushed everything eastwards. Most people won't care enough to care, that's how it is with societal complacency until war is brought to one's own doorstep.
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y 11 ай бұрын
Amazing
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
No people in West Germany wont be the only ones who would congradulate you for the castles restoration, my ancestors spent 700 years under german yoke and had I the power I would see the castle rebuild to be exactly as it was, for it was beautiful. Last year I visited Bauskas castle, also build by german crusaders trying to conquer our lands, and under the rule of baltic people it has been recunstructed (half way do to lack of money) and you can feel well sitting in its great halls or looking out over the town and forrests from its high towers. Castles are of no military value today, they are merely beautiful architecture, they give a place a sense of place. Nobody ever travels to fotograph a hruščovka for its beauty, plenty of people visit castles to admire them.
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
Sir Manatee!!! If you could tell the story of the Revolution of Geneva of 1782 it would be appreciated
@bernd_das_brot6911
@bernd_das_brot6911 Жыл бұрын
What happened there?
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
@@bernd_das_brot6911 It was like the WEF following through with their plans but with Klaus Schwab wearing a powdered wig
@m3ats
@m3ats 11 ай бұрын
Always wanted to go there because my whole Family comes from there.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
Your family comes from a place which no longer exists, what you will see there is what modern Russija looks like.
@frankcienciala3328
@frankcienciala3328 11 ай бұрын
Very interesting
@adifreitag8579
@adifreitag8579 11 ай бұрын
Koenigsberg song: are over, over all the beautiful hours which we passed on beautiful Baltic Sea beach. we had each other Yes we found each other so nicely. it was for us the most beautiful place. Oh Koenigsberg, The die is cast and soon you too will leave the Baltic Sea beach. Closed to the heart are you from all of us You most beautiful ornament in the German Fleet Association kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aNV1qrmWzMm-emg.html Lili Marleen kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pKqWpchm0r_TnnU.html
@D.S.handle
@D.S.handle Жыл бұрын
It’s so funny how the Soviet Government was using the blood and soil argument to justified their settlement.
@justacommonman5935
@justacommonman5935 Жыл бұрын
welp dude, if i were the soviets who have lost 27 million citizens in 4 years to those "Krauts"...of course i would take their proud *"Holy German Land"* ,renaming the city after one of the soviet Communist leaders and guarantee that 90% of the city will no longer have Germans as the *last middle finger* for future descendants of Germans....why? because fuck them, that's why
@olivierschraepen5451
@olivierschraepen5451 11 ай бұрын
The regime maybe, not the inhabitants.@danielhalachev4714
@kasugaryuichi9767
@kasugaryuichi9767 10 ай бұрын
@danielhalachev4714 Considering communists and nazis are pretty much the same thing, not surprising
@freealter
@freealter 2 ай бұрын
@@kasugaryuichi9767 hur dur horseshoe theory. Shut up.
@Konradthe1st
@Konradthe1st 2 ай бұрын
@@kasugaryuichi9767 I don’t really see how communists and nazis are the same tbh
@DGAMINGDE
@DGAMINGDE Жыл бұрын
No watter what you think about Königsberg. The greatest shame is that the anthem of Ostpreußen isn't in use anymore, even in Russian. I think many anthems in German are overhyped and the anthem proves how beautiful the German language can be, if you actually want to do something poetic and good sounding with it. Ironically I feel like every German entity beginning with "East" seems to have had a beautiful anthem.
@kaiserredgamer8943
@kaiserredgamer8943 11 ай бұрын
I suppose it is part of the perfect punishment for Prussian militarism... Isn't it such sweet revenge for the Poles and Slavs to have the German legacy and history of these lands nearly completely forgotten?
@diesesphil
@diesesphil 11 ай бұрын
@@kaiserredgamer8943 No it really isn't. Also the Poles kept German Infrastructure and restored German Castles and buildings too.
@PLKartofel
@PLKartofel 11 ай бұрын
@@kaiserredgamer8943 Completely forgotten? Have you visited this territory?
@thedane6483
@thedane6483 11 ай бұрын
Land der dunklen valder?
@adifreitag8579
@adifreitag8579 11 ай бұрын
@@kaiserredgamer8943 Prussia was no more militaristic than other states. All major states have waged wars of conquest without being accused of militarism. The Roman Empire grew through wars of conquest and not through persuasion of the subjugated peoples. All great colonial empires came about through aggressive wars. In its heyday, Poland also waged wars against other peoples and annexed their territories. So stop telling the tale of Prussian militarism. The Prussian Army was more effective than many other armies, but not more aggressive. The Prussian army was characterized above all by the discipline and sacrifice of its soldiers. In addition, the order principle was preferred in the Prussian army. In contrast to the command, only the destination is specified for the order, but not the route. This made warfare more flexible and effective. The German Wehrmacht has won many battles despite being outnumbered and outgunned. As in France in 1940. Quotes that say something about the Prussian army: "I made you a staff officer so you would know when not to obey." Frederick II, the Great, Prussian King "Unforeseen opportunities are to be used immediately, and unforeseen difficulties are to be reacted to immediately." Carl Philipp Gottlieb von Clausewitz (1780 - 1831) Prussian major general and military scientist Prussian traditions kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n699d7uc376vmoU.html
@Luxnutz1
@Luxnutz1 Жыл бұрын
Sir Manatee how about the story of Graham island off the coast of Italy and the dispute with the king of Naples.
@DoubleACbg
@DoubleACbg Ай бұрын
I’ve read that as a child during the war, John Kay (born Joachim Kraudulat in Königsberg), who would later form the band Steppenwolf, had to flee East Prussia with his mother when the Red Army arrived. They first lived in what would become East Germany before escaping there, finally ending up in Canada.
@comrade3459
@comrade3459 10 ай бұрын
I am from Kaliningrad myself, my great-grandma is actually one of the first people to be settled there, she was originally from the Belarusian SSR, but she was put in an orphanage near Minsk since her stepmother couldn't take care of all her children since her family just survived the German occupation after living through terror and destruction, when Kaliningrad was established, the orphanage was relocated there to expand the new city's population, my great-grandma never ended up moving back to Belarus and lived in Kaliningrad until she died in 2017. I always found it very sad how they destroyed great architecture and I actually think that the city could end up having a very great design if we create a mix of Russian and German culture, it will make Kaliningrad very unique and could potentially become a good tourist destination.
@frihusiola4339
@frihusiola4339 10 ай бұрын
Kaliningrad would have been so beautiful but the soviet ego and the love for concrete detroyed those hopes a long time ago
@adifreitag8579
@adifreitag8579 10 ай бұрын
There is no German-Russian synthesis without a German population. The Russians drove out the Germans and wiped out German culture. They have turned a cultural landscape into a wasteland similar to many areas in the Russian heartland. I don't blame the Russian people who were resettled in northern East Prussia after the war. In many cases they were also victims of war and pawns of the powerful. But the Russians living there have no connection to the German culture that existed there until 1945. With the expulsion of the Germans, the German soul of this area died out. In 1945, a new era began for northern East Prussia - as well as for the German eastern provinces annexed by Poland. The undestroyed German monuments are only attractive backdrops for a foreign population. For us Germans, the loss of our eastern provinces is a painful memory. With their loss, part of German culture, part of German identity has been lost forever. Funeral march from the oratorio “Saul” by George Frideric Handel kzfaq.info/get/bejne/aJhyl8R3zq_Sopc.html A personal note: Part of my family comes from the northern part of East Prussia. They had to flee from the invading and marauding Red Army in minus 20 degrees and a snowstorm. One of my male relatives was a young pilot in the German Air Force. His last mission was in Northeast Prussia. His mission was to stop the invading Red Army in order to enable the German civilian population to escape west. It was a kamikaze mission. He knew it wouldn't come back alive. His body lies somewhere in northern East Prussia. His grave is in my heart. Friedhelm's death kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rc9mksaYrs65g6M.html I had a comrade kzfaq.info/get/bejne/g8x9hNdkldXckYk.html
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
Ū a person from Kaļiņingrad, I have a question. So to figure out what Im really like I ran a thought experiment of what Id do with godlike powers, if logic allows of it I can do it phisics be damned. But I god bored of that and decided to do a second with with more limitations. In my hypothetical I only have stuff like being buletproof, running at the speed of a car and an undulling sword that can cut metal, think Adam Taurus for aestetic. My plan for my second year with these powers is to invade Kaļiņingrand and give the ultimatum that everyone in it must submit, die or leave. Then the question is - What precentage do you think would leave, submit or die failing to realize that Im not bluffing and wont be stopped?
@notthefbi8707
@notthefbi8707 Жыл бұрын
I like your videos but watching this is just to depressing for me…
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
Tho I can shed no tiers I feel like I want to cry.
@MyLateralThawts
@MyLateralThawts 11 ай бұрын
My parents are both descendants of East Prussians. They both came from different regions too. Recently I took a DNA test and found something interesting, which I believe reflects most of the people expelled from East Prussia. It turns out I’m only 11% French and German, there being some Huguenot ancestry suggested in my father’s family. There is zero percent Polish or Lithuanian DNA. Over 70% of my DNA is in fact from the old Prussians, which I believe applies to most of the East Prussians who were ethnically cleansed from their ancestral lands. We were punished for being Germans, yet, ethnically at least, we were the least German of all the German lands at the end of the Second World War. Yes, we were culturally German, but the land had been ours centuries before either the Germans or the Poles tried to conquer us. When the Germans, through the Teutonic Knights, actually succeeded, they didn’t expel us, but over the course of centuries gradually assimilated us. Ironic that we had to bear the brunt of the punishment for the crimes of the Nazi regime.
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044
@charlesburgoyne-probyn6044 11 ай бұрын
I believe the old Prussians were a Baltic people akin to Lithuanians, it's also curious how the current Russian population has become more sympathetic to the heritage and culture of the previous inhabitants and see themselves as more progressive than Russia itself. It will be interesting to see what the future holds for the region especially with the current conflict
@davidm3118
@davidm3118 10 ай бұрын
There is a strong likelihood that many Palestinians are ethnically closer to the tribes of Biblical Israel than most modern Israelis......
@compatriot852
@compatriot852 10 ай бұрын
I highly doubt you have 0% Lithuanian DNA considering how heavily intermixed Baltic tribes were with one another even before the crusades. In fact, the Old Prussians later became known as Lithuanian Prussians in the 1500s according the scholars like Simon Grunau
@alexanderryan1176
@alexanderryan1176 10 ай бұрын
You realize though that if the old Prussians were ethnically cleansed as you say, ie exterminated, you wouldn't be 70% old Prussians.
@danbaltic9678
@danbaltic9678 10 ай бұрын
Okay so how was that "Old Prussians" classified in your test? What is the name of the testing company? None of the major genetic tests have "Old Prussians" classification. If you done ancestry DNA, it should be either Baltic or Northwest Poland/Southern Lithuania (Yotvingian and Old Prussian). I had ancestors from a close by Lithuanian region. I got 87% Baltic/Lithuanian) and 13% Northwest Poland/Southern Lithuanian
@80796andrea
@80796andrea Жыл бұрын
Clearly ancient Japanese soil….
@Styrbjiorn
@Styrbjiorn 11 ай бұрын
Ancient Emperor Konigu from the Shizue clan founded the city, its real name is actually "Kounigusuberugu". Ancient japanese fishing city
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
No its baltic!
@meirionowen5979
@meirionowen5979 Ай бұрын
Thank you. This is very well made production. Intelligent, highly informative--it stands out head and shoulders above the usual sub-mediocrity that blights the KZfaq of recent years.
@dams6829
@dams6829 Жыл бұрын
5:57 maybe you already know but that victory monument was demolished last august.
@StalinWasntThatBadTbh
@StalinWasntThatBadTbh Жыл бұрын
sadly..
@airsmellnice4133
@airsmellnice4133 Жыл бұрын
Why?
@StalinWasntThatBadTbh
@StalinWasntThatBadTbh Жыл бұрын
@@airsmellnice4133 neo na7ism
@ekesandras1481
@ekesandras1481 Жыл бұрын
@@StalinWasntThatBadTbh since 1945 was no victory for Latvia, why should they have a victory monument.
@StalinWasntThatBadTbh
@StalinWasntThatBadTbh Жыл бұрын
@@ekesandras1481 To honor the Soviet Liberators of the glorious Red Army. That's why.
@AverytheCubanAmerican
@AverytheCubanAmerican 11 ай бұрын
The flag of the city of Kaliningrad still has German influence! The arms display a medieval ship, representing Kaliningrad's harbor and how important said harbor has been since its foundations. The ship flies a pennant of the Russian Navy Ensign, however within the ship is a small shield that is the same shield used when it was called both Altstadt and Königsberg! The shield features a crown, representing the fact Königsberg means "King's Mountain". Originally just the castle was called Königsberg, and it wasn't until 1724 that Altstadt along with the neighboring towns of Kneiphof and Löbenicht merged and called the new city Königsberg. The flag of Kaliningrad Oblast on the other hand has a more different design. It has a thick red bar, a yellow stripe, and a thick blue bar. The upper left corner of the flag features a castle with open gates and the monogram of Empress Elizabeth Petrovna. Her monogram was chosen because under her rule, parts of what is now Kaliningrad Oblast was briefly under Russian control during the Seven Years' War. Though the Russians couldn't actually take the city itself as they used up their supplies of cannonballs at Memel (now Klaipėda, Lithuania) and Gross-Jägersdorf (Chernyakhovsky District in Kaliningrad Oblast). While the colors have no official meaning, it has been said the yellow represents Kaliningrad's huge deposits of amber.
@theagrome4592
@theagrome4592 2 ай бұрын
We should bring back the Old Prussian language
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
Impossible, there isnt enough of it recorded to be able to speak it.
@andrewgreig1886
@andrewgreig1886 10 ай бұрын
Ihr Englisch ist außergewöhnlich! One comment though, 'Dove' rhymes with 'glove', 'love', 'tough'. Otherwise, perfect!
@handle_unknown
@handle_unknown Жыл бұрын
Aaaahhh, Tjajkovskij, a perfect choice, sir!
@zowenladfs
@zowenladfs Жыл бұрын
I think if these cities stayed with East Germany and lasted until German unification. Maybe it's better to stay with Germany in managing the city.
@justlukas701
@justlukas701 Жыл бұрын
Tagsüber wird in Königsberg Russisch gesprochen, doch Abends flüstern die Bäume in Deutsch 🕊.
@vornamenachnameinklammernoptio
@vornamenachnameinklammernoptio Жыл бұрын
Das erste kann man auch schnell wieder ändern
@nsdapcommunism2780
@nsdapcommunism2780 11 ай бұрын
@Allahcunny modern Germany isnt german anymore and you still want more land? Калининград is and will be Russian forever.
@nsdapcommunism2780
@nsdapcommunism2780 11 ай бұрын
The fact that you still express desire to conquer Kaliningrad, despite Germany lacking any military or nuclear capabilities to do that is baffling. You dont even have the people to populate the region, since the whole German nation is on track to become extinct. Besides, Kaliningrad oblast is rightfully Russian as a retribution for all the sins Germany committed in Ussr. Have some decency to accept your defeat and live on
@nsdapcommunism2780
@nsdapcommunism2780 11 ай бұрын
​@Allahcunny Ah, the infamous "will of the German people". 1) Only 18% of the Germans are willing to fight in a war for their country. 2) Germany has 1.58 fertility rate which means it cant even re-populate itself - there is no way for you to populate new land. And most importantly - German army will not help you against nuclear armageddon. So I hope you understand why you cant get this land back and why you dont even need it. If you think otherwise you can tell me your plan of proving me wrong. The thing is, I dont even understand why would you be so petty about an already lost clay. Do you plan to also attack Poland and France for taking your land, or do you want Kaliningrad specifically? Also, my name is irrelevant to this conversation
@leomierisch921
@leomierisch921 11 ай бұрын
Königsberg 🇩🇪
@lucacoccioli9244
@lucacoccioli9244 Жыл бұрын
There's one thing I've been wondering for a very long time though. What do you call a person from Kaliningrad????
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 Жыл бұрын
An occupier.
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Жыл бұрын
Kaliningrader
@lucacoccioli9244
@lucacoccioli9244 Жыл бұрын
@@goldenfiberwheat238 is that supposed to rhyme with cheese grater or ladder?
@goldenfiberwheat238
@goldenfiberwheat238 Жыл бұрын
@@lucacoccioli9244 depends on your accent I guess
@durango.j-onez
@durango.j-onez 5 ай бұрын
A smear on the earth
@JanuszKrysztofiak
@JanuszKrysztofiak 6 ай бұрын
A side note: recently in Poland, after the invasion of Ukraine, the office for regulation of geographic names reverted the recommended name of the city from "Kaliningrad" back to the historical, pre-1946 one: "Królewiec".
@postgradsibstud9321
@postgradsibstud9321 2 ай бұрын
So?
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Ай бұрын
Based poles
@lordpazo6784
@lordpazo6784 8 ай бұрын
Great video but it wasnt as tragic as Warsaw
@rennor3498
@rennor3498 Жыл бұрын
Soviets claimed that they were against nationalism and right-wing agendas and historic imperialist claims. As they 'liberated' from the grasp of the fascists and imperialists. Also Soviets, appeal to ancient slavic history and nationalist specualtion to justify the annexation of territory in Poland, Romania and most noticeably, Prussia.
@pierren___
@pierren___ Жыл бұрын
Nationalism is not bad when it comes from oppressed people breaking empires apart.
@supaman6713
@supaman6713 Жыл бұрын
They were and still are against other countries nationalism expect their own, because they know there's so many smaller ethnicities they have conquered and oppresed and they fear them breaking free
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
​@@pierren___napolion
@LoboalphaMASTER
@LoboalphaMASTER 11 ай бұрын
Nationalism is not a right or left thing, it exists in both sides of the political spectrum, its only the modern left in places like Europe and North America that think otherwise.
@RedemptionDenied666
@RedemptionDenied666 11 ай бұрын
​@pierren___ so germany under the Versailles treaty?
@chrisalex82
@chrisalex82 4 ай бұрын
This is legit sad like really, it reminds of Warsaw... :(
@BritishJaguar
@BritishJaguar 3 ай бұрын
Всё обязательно будет восстановлено!
@user-pz6ls4uk8k
@user-pz6ls4uk8k Күн бұрын
За чей счёт
@ontheline3077
@ontheline3077 2 ай бұрын
The amount of dumb nationalism in comments is truly sad
@rafalkaminski6389
@rafalkaminski6389 11 ай бұрын
The same attitude, although on the power scale, soviet russia implied to Baltic states with deportations of Estonians, lithuanians and latvians to siberia and replacing them by russians, belarussians and ukrainians. 😅
@rudolfkraffzick642
@rudolfkraffzick642 11 ай бұрын
There are similarities in the Sovjet treatment of the Balts and Germans. Big difference is, that the newly arrived Slavic people in the Baltic were additional settlers while the complete German population of historic east Germany suffered genocide or deportation.
@robertwaite6401
@robertwaite6401 11 ай бұрын
The victory monument in Riga has been demolished.
@azill1137
@azill1137 Жыл бұрын
7:11 Кенигсберский замок кстате не снесут до 1968, в 1968 году кёнигсберский замок будет снесён.
@heh9392
@heh9392 Жыл бұрын
so sad
@johnlion23
@johnlion23 11 ай бұрын
Koeninsberg and the Slavs: the city was erected by Bohemian king Premysl Ottokar (that is why Koeningsberg - the king's hill), from a Slavic dynasty. Yes, it was erected on lands conquered from Prussians (Prusovians). For 2 centuries it was vasal to the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, under a Lithuanian dynasty, later under elected kings. Concerning some comments below: Wrocław (Breslau) is first mentioned as a Polish city becoming a bishop's seat and during the whole millenium had a Slavic autochtonic population. Szczecin (Stettin) thrived from the Baltic trade long before the Germans came - it was ruled by a local Pomeranian (Slavic) dynasty until the 17th century. Gdańsk (Dantzig) was erected by Polish duke Mieszko, several centuries later was conquered by the Teutonic knights, but later returned to Poland (and peaked in prosperity) until being taken by Prussia (together with Toruń (Thorn)) in the end of the XVIII century. Genetic studies showed, that Slavs did not migrate into Poland around 4-5th century, they were already there for millenia.
@adifreitag8579
@adifreitag8579 10 ай бұрын
"Genetic studies showed, that Slavs did not migrate into Poland around 4-5th century, they were already there for millenia." Don't say such nonsense. At the time of Christ's birth there was not a single Pole west of the Memel and Vistula rivers. The Poles originally come from the vastness of Russia. They moved west and took possession of areas already populated by Germanic tribes. The Poles are writing their own history. They may also claim that the DNA of the Neanderthals matches the DNA of the Poles. I'm still waiting for the Poles to claim that Adam and Eve were the first Poles and therefore the whole world belongs to the Poles. If we Germans argued like the Poles, then half of Europe belonged to us. The Germanic Franks under Charlemagne ruled over what are now the Netherlands, Belgium, France, Austria, Switzerland and northern Italy. So we could claim these areas today. The Angles and Saxons come from northern Germany and have our DNA, so we would also have claims to England. Frederick II from the German Hohenstaufen family was not only emperor of the empire, but also king of Sicily. The German Hanover dynasty had ruled Great Britain since 1714. From 1840 it was replaced by the German dynasty of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, which changed its name to Windsor after the First World War. Since the 15th century, Denmark has been ruled by the German dukes from Schleswig and Holstein. The German Habsburgs ruled not only over the empire, but also over Spain and Portugal and their colonies. Austria, Switzerland, Belgium and the Netherlands were part of the empire for centuries. The Dutch city of Amsterdam received city rights from Emperor Maximilian. The Dutch royal family comes from Nassau in Hesse. The ancestors of the Belgian royal family come from Saxe-Coburg-Saalfeld. Many areas in Eastern Europe were developed for agriculture by German settlers. Many cities in Eastern Europe - such as Riga and Kulm - were founded by German settlers. Given all these facts, we could follow the Polish example and assert territorial claims. Or?
@georgewashington6497
@georgewashington6497 7 ай бұрын
Next video: how Strasbourg became Strasbour.
@azill1137
@azill1137 Жыл бұрын
3:52 Ну они бы итак поехали, типо выселить немцев, и привлекать людей туда мигрировать что тут есть кучу свободных рабочих мест с высокой Зарплатой, много пустых домов (которые могут переселенцам быть отданы, и плюс эти дома отдавать рабочим и семьям рабочих что поедут в Калининград работать, да и просто переселившимся), плюс много пустующей земли (которую им могут отдать бесплатно или под аренду если поселятся в сёлах Калининградской области), и всё, люди сразу туда поедут (даже не спрашивая чья эта земля была 1000 лет назад, немецкая или славянская).
@aniinnrchoque1861
@aniinnrchoque1861 Жыл бұрын
Labban deīnan wissas ginnis en Prūsa. Kaigi eraīnai ēit?
@nomedan
@nomedan Жыл бұрын
Laba diena :)
@nunocbnunocb5875
@nunocbnunocb5875 Жыл бұрын
Quite normal a territory change sovereignty but always keeping the inhabitants there. It happened many times in European history. After WW2 was a different story, specially regarding Prussia, Pomerania, Silesia and Sudetenland. Scandalous.
@Vitalis94
@Vitalis94 Жыл бұрын
You know what was scandslous? Starting a war in the first place. I don’t support the population exchange, but the Nazis did start the war with the goal of cleansing the conquered lands of its inhabitants.
@polonianova
@polonianova 11 ай бұрын
Germanophile cry? This land are rightfully slavic from 1000 years
@DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik
@DeutscheDemokratischeRepublik 11 ай бұрын
@@polonianova The 1000 years before these 1000 years, this land was germanic, even most of poland and czechia were germanic at some point. I therefore determine your reply to be nationalistic cope.
@999mi999
@999mi999 11 ай бұрын
@@polonianova Funniest thing about slavs is that they always focus on a specific 10 year span in history that is the most optimal for their ethnicity. Poles always look at 10th century slavic principalities in eastern germany, but for some reason they never look 100-200 years before that when their people hadn't even migrated into the region and was 100% eastern germanic up to the vistula. I'm latin, by the way, before you ask, and they do the same shit with us. You have slavs arguing that italians are actually slavs because 100 bulgars migrated into the italian peninsula in the 7th century. Pathetic, really.
@juliane__
@juliane__ 11 ай бұрын
@@polonianova No, Baltics lived there no slavs. Gaslightning is an outcry of inability to cope with life.
@viktorpetukhov727
@viktorpetukhov727 11 ай бұрын
Main flaw of communism is that that party-loyal and loud diletants achieved so much power (It started to show right after the revolution and I couldn't imagine how it didn't end at some point), neglecting work of many talented men USSR always had.
@realhawaii5o
@realhawaii5o Жыл бұрын
15:45 I guess it's Спасибо большое after 1945 🙃
@thomasfx3190
@thomasfx3190 10 ай бұрын
I haven’t ever really had any sympathy for the ethnic Germans who were kicked out of East Prussia & Koningsburg. The Germans and the Russian both were brutally savage people to each other and others. Einstagruppen squads just murdered every Slav they could and Stalin certainly did the same back in the other direction. Bottom line, Konigsburg was a warm water port and Stalin wanted it. The Germans started WW2, lost it and didn’t get to make the decision about this territory.
@Chameleon1616
@Chameleon1616 2 ай бұрын
To make a moral dismissal for the cleaning of a group of people because of your general opinion on that people is the easiest opinion to have that is the furthest possible from reality. You can’t understand the pain and injustice of an entire population being wiped from the territory in which they lived or killed/abused on mass. People are swept up in or subjected to grand historical trends that they have little persistant influence over or ability to predict. Often they don’t really even choose what they believe, especially under fascism and communism. You can hold the many leader figures to ideas of just deserves and retribution for their actions, but to extend the same concept to the great mess of guilt and innocence that is a civilian population for the sake of moral satisfaction is completely unacceptable. Every retaliation is just another crime in the interest of either a few men or an abstract idea. In this case, Russian revanchism and Stalin, previously German facism and the Nazi party.
@justanormalyoutubeuser3868
@justanormalyoutubeuser3868 Жыл бұрын
People always assume soviet journals only voiced one, propagandistic view. However, an actual overview of the articles reveals this to be false, even the official party publication (Pravda) reflected a rich debate, I would say even reacher than western business owned media.
@juliane__
@juliane__ 11 ай бұрын
But the totalitarian regime chose what to do, not all the bright diverse minded people. By western media you are thinking of especially us and british outlets? You maybe right. But otherwise for certain not.
@justanormalyoutubeuser3868
@justanormalyoutubeuser3868 11 ай бұрын
@@juliane__ There was never a totatitarian regime, the word "totalitarian" is meaningless. There was a system of grassroots participation in political participation based on the soviets (workers' councils) which was the basis of all political activity. Even party membership was regularly vetted by the soviets, at least before the Great Patriotic War. We may not want to call it a democracy because of the censorship and persecution of reactionaries but it wasn't a top down system.
@mikeblatzheim2797
@mikeblatzheim2797 11 ай бұрын
​@@justanormalyoutubeuser3868 Just because local politics weren't directly managed from Moscow doesn't make the Soviet system not 'top down'. All major decisions and power over every institution of the state was held by a small council of Party cadres with a single leader. It doesn't get more top-down than that. And the notion that the CCCP wasn't totalitarian is ridiculous. Sure, there was controlled opposition, much like elsewhere, for example in the GDR, but nothing was allowed without the state's approval. Actual opposition was persecuted severely, and activism not along party lines would yield you at least a lengthy prison sentence. That is the very definition of totalitarian, the fact that all actions and ideas must adhere to the ideals of the state, and any divergence is severely punished. I don't know what you're trying to achieve by whitewashing the authoritarian history of such regiemes, but it won't change history.
@justanormalyoutubeuser3868
@justanormalyoutubeuser3868 11 ай бұрын
@@mikeblatzheim2797 Every state that has ever existed has had a hierarchy with a small group at the top. In the Soviet Union was the Supreme Soviet, a large, elected body. If that makes the Soviet Union authoritarian than every state that has ever existed would be equally authoritarian, which is why marxists reject the term. The political system was not organized along government and opposition in order to prevent functionalism, every delegate was an equal member of the Soviet. This does not mean there was no political freedom, all matters where thoroughly discussed at all levels of government. Political work was never restricted to party members only, as every worker had right to political work through the trade unions and other social groups. Many delegates at Soviet elections were independent. What you confuse with political repression is the fight against terrorism and sabotage, of which the soviet union was a major victim. If the FBI found you to be affiliated with ISIS you would be arrested just like a Trotskyist would be arrested in the USSR. In addition the USSR persecuted racism and fascism, hardly a questionable policy. There is no political freedom in the US, both parties serve the same capitalist system and are in agreement about everything except mere aesthetics, public opinion has no impact on policy, unlike in the Soviet Union. No state allows or ever allowed real, systemic opposition to gain strength and survived, if the USSR was totalitarian than so was every state ever. The state is instrument of political power, its character depends only on the class it serves.
@spacecommie7447
@spacecommie7447 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful video! Fascinating insight into utilitarian architecture, the utopian dreams of socialist architects and urban planners as well as the coarse yet endearing fusion of a neoclassical Teutonic town and a Soviet city. The land and materials were brought by the Old Prussians, the art and symetry was brought about by the Germans, the productivity and modernity by the Soviets.
@nissethepear4743
@nissethepear4743 Жыл бұрын
babe wake up new manatee video
@francisdec1615
@francisdec1615 11 ай бұрын
Destroying old buildings because they were part of a class system was sadly an idea in Sweden in the 1960s and 1970s as well, though they were our own. And just as in the Soviet Union they were replaced by horrible concrete slabs.
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
US also destroyed black housing for the freeway during this time😂
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
while in Africa and Asia European buildings symbols of colonialism were also destroyed
@carkawalakhatulistiwa
@carkawalakhatulistiwa 11 ай бұрын
many old buildings were demolished to make way for parking lots
@Styrbjiorn
@Styrbjiorn 11 ай бұрын
Ja, sannerligen en mycket tråkig del i vår historia. Kriget kom aldrig till vårt länd så våra politiker bestämde att vi själva skulle spränga vår historia för "modernt" nybygge. Ännu idag pågår det.
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
If a lot of wealth in the past was concentrated to build a few beautiful buildings the last thing you should do is destroy them, youre toching everything your ancestors worked twords!
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217
@karlheinzvonkroemann2217 5 ай бұрын
3 days of fighting? Check that again!
@MrBrookcantdance
@MrBrookcantdance 2 ай бұрын
I’m very glad you managed to get that piece in there about German aggression. You shall be spared
@user-pr9qb6yi9w
@user-pr9qb6yi9w 2 ай бұрын
Corny
@xandervk2371
@xandervk2371 2 ай бұрын
Cringy.
@mahammadmammadov-ne8os
@mahammadmammadov-ne8os 11 ай бұрын
I am still mad at their decision to demolish once magnificent Prussian palace and build an ugly concrete box for matches. That was so poorly planned that the “engineers and architects” did not take in account the underground dungeon system of Koenigsberg that may be th reason the building started slowly sinking and was abandoned anyway…. Where was Unesco then what about these people’s heritage? After not all them were Nazies… this was once Capital of a great nation that contributed to philosophy, mathematics, best firefighting techniques and etc…😅
@alexanderlunacharsky96
@alexanderlunacharsky96 Ай бұрын
Maybe the british should not have demolished the city with aerial bombs, and then the historical buildings would have been preserved? Watch your own contry, mr. "Mad of their Decision".
@riconeu873
@riconeu873 10 ай бұрын
Making it Königsberg again!
@Aeg0r
@Aeg0r 7 ай бұрын
You wish)
@eflex8543
@eflex8543 2 ай бұрын
No way Czeachian sea mentioned
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Ай бұрын
I had always known Pravda to be the opposite, but I had never realize just how comically wrong everything they wrote was. There is no atempt at spinning the narrative by cherypicked tid bits of truth, its literally just 2+2=16.
@Mr.barba97
@Mr.barba97 Жыл бұрын
Man the soviets really mismanaged this situation. This shit sucks
@Mr.barba97
@Mr.barba97 Жыл бұрын
@@Nordbon1523 after this Ukraine war it is all to clear unfortunately
@thomaswatson1739
@thomaswatson1739 Жыл бұрын
Russia isn’t Soviet anymore
@rudolfkraffzick642
@rudolfkraffzick642 11 ай бұрын
The Kaliningrad/Koenigsberg experience proves that it is impossible to create a sovjet (or leftist) society without historic and geographical background, only based on pure intellectual ideology. Consequently many inhabitants of Kaliningrad call the city "Kenig" and the university name is Kant, named after the German philosopher of the 18th century.
@adifreitag8579
@adifreitag8579 10 ай бұрын
With the annexation of the German eastern areas by Russians and Poles and the expulsion of the German population, the German soul of these areas has expired. Only the stones speak German and the trees whisper German in the evening. German history ended there with the Russian and Polish occupiers. The new population has no roots there. Land of Dark Forests (East Prussian Anthem) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qNmRhdZz0NjKqWQ.html The East Prussian Riding Song (Your Sons, Land in the East) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fKmEgZCKndrTgaM.html Well done, comrades on the horse kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qr18fs2S19u9cn0.html On Baltic watch kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fdh6rLZ2nq7HpH0.html
@Maltheus_
@Maltheus_ 2 ай бұрын
Saying that all the lost architecture in Germany during WW2 was entirely a "direct result German aggression" isn't really fair, since the Brits and Americans didn't need to excessively firebomb the shit out of German cities to win the war, and saying it was a "direct result of German aggression" kind of frees the Brits and Americans from their responsibility for their deliberate strategy of levelling German cites with the ground via the firebombing campaigns. It also takes away Soviets' responsibility for their mismanagement. The unfortunate fate of Königsberg was a direct result of German, British, American and Soviet actions, not just the actions of the Germans.
@user-vt4je9ym6h
@user-vt4je9ym6h 2 ай бұрын
It was totally Germany's fault, as well as millions of dead, thousands of stolen and lost art pieces, countless destroyed old buildings by nazis
@baneofbanes
@baneofbanes Ай бұрын
Buddy the Germans carpet bombed cities as well, in fact they did it first. If it wasn’t for Germany starting the war they wouldn’t have had their cities carpet bombed, so it was entirely on them.
@bbenjoe
@bbenjoe 10 ай бұрын
The Soviets needed it's ice free port.
@vorynrosethorn903
@vorynrosethorn903 Жыл бұрын
Personally I would blame socialist architects for rebuilding in butt ugly styles rather than the Germans for engaging in yet another European conflict which led to a massive amount of destruction, sure it was the biggest one yet but there have been plenty similar and the decisive difference is not the destruction but how things were rebuilt.
@archer8849
@archer8849 10 ай бұрын
More like who rebuilt. If Germans didn't start said conflict (and lost it) this city would still be theirs.
@jayzandstra1830
@jayzandstra1830 10 ай бұрын
@@archer8849 more like if only the west didnt spout out empty promises of a free poland (and free europe) just to carpet bomb everything to the ground and leave half of europe to litteral bugmen from moscow.
@Filon2137Potocki
@Filon2137Potocki Жыл бұрын
Poland changed the name to Królewiec lately, the Germans should follow and call it Königsberg.
@nunocbnunocb5875
@nunocbnunocb5875 Жыл бұрын
yes, historically the city will be always German.
@mastersafari5349
@mastersafari5349 Жыл бұрын
Some Kaliningraders suggest to return the old city name Königsberg as a part of decommunisation. Königsberg doesn't really sound out of place in Russian. Many great Russian cities have German names. St. Petersburg, Ekaterinburg, Kronstadt, Peterhof, Adler etc.
@Nakla
@Nakla Жыл бұрын
Not allowed Doing this would break the 2+4 Vertrag
@Argacyan
@Argacyan 8 ай бұрын
@@Nakla It should be broken, or formally disbanded to the same end result. Whatever positive you may think of that treaty, it could be negotiated in a new treaty anyhow.
@Itsmussolini
@Itsmussolini 2 ай бұрын
@@Naklawho cares about what some gay soviet whores think. Think freedom🇺🇸
@Munchausenification
@Munchausenification Жыл бұрын
nice video, i would have personally liked a little more volume on the music in the background. Had to turn up the volume quite a bit to hear it properly
@smallcat848
@smallcat848 Жыл бұрын
entirely random thing: w hy do you kinda sound english & don' t seem to at all h ave any kind of accent idk just something kinda intresting t o me meow
@cavscout1418
@cavscout1418 10 ай бұрын
It is truly astonishing how much land the germans have lost since WWI. Maybe that could be a video.
@BB-km5nv
@BB-km5nv 10 ай бұрын
For example austrian German lose südtirol to Italian
@frihusiola4339
@frihusiola4339 10 ай бұрын
Close to everything, yes.
@carlmetaltaku3150
@carlmetaltaku3150 Жыл бұрын
"ancient slavic soil" The Pruzzen where baltic people. But what am I to be in the position to speak out against the propaganda machine of the winning powers.
@e7eezzz
@e7eezzz 10 ай бұрын
But there is also the theory that germans just deny their slavic heritage, as if they insist the so called german tribes never mixed with slavs
@emanuellopes6166
@emanuellopes6166 11 ай бұрын
Sometimes I see some brutalist buildings and I think soviets actually had an interest vision, but then I see all of the rest of the modernistic bullshit then I realize they the soviet union was truly tasteless in its core.
@user-pz6ls4uk8k
@user-pz6ls4uk8k 10 ай бұрын
Как хорошо что город навсегда русский. Это наша родина в четвёртом поколении. Сейчас город хорошо отстроен и комфортен для проживания
@JD-rt5sd
@JD-rt5sd 10 ай бұрын
Kherson was also "forever russian" lmao
@frihusiola4339
@frihusiola4339 10 ай бұрын
It’s funny how they try to support everything they did and put in the shine of glory. The architecture of the new kaliningrad is beyond ugly, concrete boxes over concrete boxes with not even a slightly reminder of the past. It’s an erased city with no personality anymore, just concrete. I’m just talking about the architecture but it’s just sad what was destroyed to push the soviet ego.
@durango.j-onez
@durango.j-onez 5 ай бұрын
Remember how the soviet union fell apart?
@ddggfcff
@ddggfcff 2 ай бұрын
Give it a while. The Germans would have said the same at the beginning of the 20th century. Plus the Baltic Republican Party enjoys great popularity, so let’s see how long it stays in the federation
@wladjarosz345
@wladjarosz345 Күн бұрын
@@user-pz6ls4uk8k Königsberg will wieder nach Hause!
@ZetaPrime77
@ZetaPrime77 8 ай бұрын
What happened to Königsberg is tragic. Hopefully it can be restored one day
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