He is right - Bunny Lee bought the board & it was working perfectly. Dynamic just upgraded to more tracks. I saw the reverb, and gave it a tap! -it is a basic tank you can still buy for £40. Not sure of the make, it doesnt matter too much, it was how it was inserted & used that is important.

I learned a long while back that Detroit, Jamaica and a few other spots were absurdly influential for modern electronic or dub style music (and the new genres influenced by jamaican dub). The UK played a huge role in that tbh. They were like a vinyl pressing hub. Sort of how like printing presses rapidly distributed affordable books, magazines and newspapers. London and suburbs also had record shops with imports...and people loved the sound. The sound went everywhere. Quickly.

Amen to that. All his techniques are so common and he was so humble it'd b easy for his memory to fade.

Thank you. I'm trying to pass on something to those that don't know yet.

I second that,what a killer tune.

@@rootsoriginals7087 Yes Rootsoriginals, the Talking Love dub was not quite a boofam baffem of a track but it was a great showcase of his skills.

...for me, favourite dub Two Face Rasta/ Cornel Campbell...also Great Stone/Soul Syndicate ❤️💛💚💯💥💣💣💥💥💥

Amen

All totally true. Especially with how the productions were tested for audience reaction. Tubby's sound probably the birth of hip hop. I'm planning on a video on that very subject soon.

It needs to be soon as the FBA of New York are twisting the truth of how the .....let's rephrase evolution of Hip hop evolved . Tubbies was an indirect major influence, esp to the great Herc of Cedar Ave & King Charles Sounds of Queens New York who knew Tubbies .

That's exactly the angle. Herc was a Kingston boy wasn't he? Jamaican's basically invented about 75% of modern music in one way or another.

@MusicEnthuZone You know your reggae & sound system culture . One of the traditional artillery moves an Oppa may use in attack is the version excursion ( u can kill a sound fe dead ) if you drop it correctly ... true ? Herc knows Tubbies is a master of the version the dub mix crowd, wait for the drop ! For me, Herc was aware of Tubbies version excursion & the g8 U Roy vibe the intro of the dub version so in New York Bronx he was aware B boys n fly girls love the break the get down & he extended the break , & transition from Apache to Gangster groove to James Brown Give the drummer Some . He called it the Merry Go Round developed from the version excursion . Also, Carribean people's love disco because of the break & the drum .Sound man like to rough it up , reverb , base , & filter . Peace brother . 🙏

@@MusicEnthuZone Dancehall was the birth of Hip Hop Kool Herc from Jamaica and mixed the same as dancehall, Space in music is the gift Reggae gave House etc... Big Up! from Peoples Sound Records Portobello London UK.

Totally, the man was an absolute genius for tying the whole thing together. Mastered (pun intended) the whole process.

I tried to do the man justice. Thank you.

I'll be honest for years he was just a name on records to me. It didn't really get how little he was actually in the studio till researching all this.

Not only you

They killed him because they knew him impact n wanted to give no credit

Tēnā koe! Really glad you enjoyed the video. I've got family down the bottom of the south island by the way. Seeing the island a big ambition of mine.

So much of modern culture stems from that man's work. Researching this made me realise that all the more.

One problem with keeping this pretty short was I didn't get to mention some of the other great producers he worked with. Yabby You of course, Tapper Zukie. Personally one of my favourites is the 'Noisy Place' dub he did for horace Andy. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gc-Tmdtox9GumZs.htmlsi=bKhGe5946A7XHT8C I've been listening to lots of Deejay stuff recently. Video up coming on that.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pN2kgcmCucjQfKc.htmlsi=4ZT7dV9vfztj4xGr

I thought Galileo polished glass lol? And did maths.

Honestly this has been a learning experience for me totally. I'm gonna clickbait you but you won't believe what else him and u-roy invented... i kind of knew the outline but the real facts have only sunk in recent. It's time to make the case.

3*14=42 Hmmmm????

Haha. I grew up on channel 4 in the 80s so something obviously stuck. Thankyou.

Thank you. For me it's the attention to detail. He knew every aspect of the signal chain inside out. Not many producers actually understand those things.

🙏 There should be statues to this man. Genius.

Thankyou, and welcome. Lots more to come.

Thanks for this, I covered the story really quickly, two decades in 10 minutes so i definitely skimmed over the 80s. I think I'll be expanding on it. To do it properly, you're right, there needs to be voices of people who had dealings. The Connection between Jamaican and UK sounds is massive. People will tell me I'm wrong but it's where rave culture comes from. Same thing really, just the rhythms are weak. I'm imaging having 50 Tubby plates sat in front of me. Insane.

@@MusicEnthuZone I'm telling you the truth. Taurus was SO impactful in 89, they or whoever they were found out where Taurus was stored, broke in smashing the locks. They stabbed ALL & EVERY SPEAKER. Bass bins the lot. Smashed up the pre amp & broke everything they could lay their hands on. Worst of all they STOLE the dub box with all of the hot dubs plus our first batch from Bobby Dixon. I'm sure those Digital B dubs came on DAT cos we had to go to Music House to cut them. So I'm sure Mikey could cut them back. The Tubbys came straight on acetate. I recorded some Robert Lee, Thriller U, Wayne Wonder, Hugh Griffiths, Johnny Osbourne, Panbird aka Trevor Levy, Little John, Sugar Minott, Woody Noble & Pliers singing Murder She Wrote on cassette that I burnt on a CD. Which I wasn't supposed to do as a youth in the sound but Jeremiah knew I was a sincere youth & trusted me. Whoever did that to us KNEW THEY HAD to stop TAURUS.

Taurus a one dangerous sound nuff Thriller U 🔥🔥🔥🔥

Thank you I went really hard on this video. The man deserved my time at least and it's great people are enjoying the video.

Much appreciated and thank you. And yes, it's important music I totally agree.

You're welcome. The best thing is people are enjoying them.

This is totally true. Crazy that's just part of his legacy. He was so humble he let the world forget just how much he did.

I don't know if you use Reaper but it's very good for doing dub feedback loops. I'm considering doing a 'how to' on some of the Tubby effects I've tried to emulate.

@@MusicEnthuZone I used Fruity loops.

One love and all that

The world needs more loud Dub music. The echo and Bass clean you from the third eye to the chakras. Love that people are getting something from the video. Researching and making it gave me a new perspective on his work. I've got a few of the old Blood and Fire reissues in the car (it's CD only) they just sound so good. I'm kind of obsessed with the DeeJays at the moment. There may well be a video on that subject coming soon.

Thankyou. I've loved the music since I was a teenager. Thought I knew a bit about him before researching this video.

@@MusicEnthuZone Later on, Tubby took a backseat & let Peego & Fatman do the recording. In truth, he only made 4 Dub albums 1. King Tubby Presents The Roots Of Dub 2. King Tubby The Dub Master Presents Dub From The Roots 3. Brass Rockers with Tommy McCook 4. Shalom Dub. A very interesting truthful book is Reggae Going International 1967 - 1976 The Bunny 'Striker' Lee Story. I recall receiving a message on Facebook from Bunny Lee saying he would be in London,but, sadly I never went to see him, what a HUGE mistake that was on my part. Bunny Lee talks at great length on Tubby in the book. You did very well with this video.

Me too. Other people have called me that so it must be true.

Wow, thankyou, only a snippet but amazing to see the man moving.

Thanks 🔥

And that tidies up a few loose ends of various videos I've done. He worked with New Order, took some bits of Kraftwerk for Planet Rock.

I could never forget Pipecock Jackson kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ms1pftZm0pu0d3U.html

You're onto something there. I'll tell you who was an introvert producer, Daniel Dumile. by a mad co-incidence I'm from Leeds where DOOM spent his last years. Figure a fellow fan may appreciate some trivia about that time. He used to visit a radio controlled car. Once he left a on star yelp review when they didn't fulfil an order (Real Supervillain Stuff that). Also apparently he made a CDs worth of beats with him rhyming over Aphex Twin (another introvert producer) samples. Nobody knows where this is, maybe on some hard drive, unlabelled.

Rick Rubin seems to be an odd form of hippy mode extrovert. Yet to be fair...he is a very interesting type of music producer. His skills and knowledge are subpar, yet his abilities to organize people in peaceful and interesting ways definitely changed this reality we all experience. He was also kind of an encyclopedia of music history to a degree.

Nailed it

It's actually my own version of Joy Division's 'Disorder'. I make all the music for my videos (that way no one can copyright claim me for a start, also i like tounderstand how people made music before talking about it, helps me get in their head space. There's a different mix of it here: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8p0Y7epqdaclWw.htmlsi=4mn1YlqKwc_WeULp I may well put out the mix from the background as a video by itself. I've had fun trying to replicate some of the techniques.

Totally, i nearly said in the video that Tubby is the most influential person in music to maybe never even touch a musical instrument. Mind blowing how he took all that knowledge and changed the shape of history from one of the roughest parts of a poor island. I wish he'd been less humble and willing to talk up his role, There'd be more interviews for a start, and Money for him. Robbed of his throne.

@@MusicEnthuZone the truth is because nobody really cared it was just about enjoying music. I'm Jamaican btw. Nuff respect

Too true, soundsystems are a physical thing. Too much fun to sit around stroking your chin. Thanks again.

Duke Reid was before all of them using the same technology tapes and reverb, they learnt from him. I always thought the Aggrovators were King Tubbys house Band? Ive never seen Aggrovators on a version of a Lee Perry? was not that the Upsetters?

@@alimantado373 dubbing itself was created by an accident. What's wrong with you guys?

The answer is probably surprisingly few. i just picked out my blood and fire copy of 'Dub Gone Crazy' (the evolution of dub at king tubby's). I think of the 12 tracks 3 of them were actually engineered by him. Here's one: 'Satta Dread Dub' kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbypmtd2mtu3iqs.htmlsi=gfhHjUt8xB1y8rBH this is 1975-79 though and the earlier you go in his discography the more probable it is that he didn't subcontract out the work under his brand name. All that said, he created the instrument they played.

@@MusicEnthuZone Satta Dread was a dub side of a BAR BELL releases (Sly & Robbies early label). I was told that all the dubs for that label were by Prince Phillip Smart....the most under-rated mixer ever, as he did many cuts folk presume were Tubby. Satta is a strange one as it is more Tubby-like than most PPSmart mixes but not as 'involved' as many of his own mixes at the time (re Glen Brown, FreedomSounds & A.Pablo mixes). It may be that some TUBBIES mixes were actually two pairs of hands on the board... also some mixes were done & mixed onto 4 track then fed back in and slightly overdubbed to get a fuller mix (?). I've seen the actual reverb Tubby used, Bunny Lee had it on one of his regular London visits to his mate Reggie Lowe (3 Kings-RIP) . It is a standard tank reverb you can pick up for about £40 still. It is great to see you mention unsung Heroes like Pat Kellys involvement & Thompson, they are key ingredients to the sound & vibe of Tubbies studio.

It's true. Of course downloading is wrong, but let's bear in mind that most of involved never got paid, so... With that in mind google the words 'archive jillem'. There's quite a few albums there in FLAC, not just Tubby, lots more roots and dub along with a load of African music and more.

A perfect track can result in money. Money can be used to manipulate reality. Perfect sound is rare though. Perfect sound alters global consciousness.

Yep, you are totally correct. Of course acetates are on a lathe not a press. Not just semantics, different process so thank you. I just got the common collocation 'press records' in my head.

@@MusicEnthuZone Yeah, I am just in an unhealthy way interested what these guys were doing :-) Another thing that must be interesting for you is that despite the discipline that guys like King Tubby and Lee Perry were having in getting the right sound, equipment was also being abused... e.g. Perry liked to blow the smoke from his spliff onto the heads of his Teac 4 track recorder. and Tubby was slapping on his Fisher spring reverb unit to get these cracking sound effects. Giving Dub some kind of a "spiritual" twist; while in Europa and the US studio technicians were trying to create a "true" sound with holistic stereo imaging these guys were creating with dub a portal to the inner world and center (preferably in mono) of the listener by fleshing out frequencies to the bone.... a nice piece of Jamaican Voodoo.

There's one guy who connects the two schools I think, Connor Plank. He was trained to do all the 'proper' stuff (recorded orchestras and Jazz Bands) but went off on tangents with the likes on NEU! And early Kraftwerk. I'm planning to do a similar episode on him in due course.

It's actually my own version of 'Disorder' by Joy Division. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q8p0Y7epqdaclWw.html This is a different mix. I'm uploading the one from the video in a few days.

It's probably not just you. I think a big part might be age. Tubby was an adult working. Scientist was still a kid and playing. It must have been very exciting being allowed to make dubs in there. Nice track too, that's a great album. Amazing how stripped back the arrangements are.

The legendary Cuss Cuss riddim, there's two versions on the "King At The Control" LP, the other one is well worth a listen as well. Here's a mix I did just recently and you can definitely hear the weed in mine LOL. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obdooKaj3qqZYn0.html

That is a Scientist (...or maybe even a Barnaba's mix ) ! 🙄😂🤣😂 Barnabus or Maxie & later Soldgie did the premix tapes that were sent to Tubbies from Channel One - so it maybe a Barnaba's (or Maxie) premix that Scientist then did the final mix from.... Tubbies version is the b-side of the Lloyd Robinson cut , faster earlier version & also on that LP

That is crazy. I just chased down where I found the picture. reggaelicious.pbworks.com/w/page/8799741/Dubplate#:~:text=A%20dubplate%20is%20a%20term,music%20played%20by%20Sound%20Systems. Am I right saying Black Scorpion Sound System and label? Big respect.

@@MusicEnthuZone Yup i can show you the original actual ten inch dubplate right now i use to voice specials at king tubbys studio it’s crazy nobody mentioned pego the engineer he was at the studio more than scientists

Stuff like that gets lost. Never seen him mentioned will try and mention if I follow this up.

Thanks for sharing this. Amazing to have someone who was a regular user of the studio commenting.

@@meanscorpio7999 What years was Pego about the Studio ? He is another man that deserves more recognition like Barnabus & Maxi & Soldgie who engineered many of the brilliant later 70's early 80's tunes

Those or these? Haha. I think what you're saying has a very good point. I've tried to be clear that Tubby didn't invent the principles of dub but think it was his mastery of electronics and how he applied it to the studio that made him stand out. I'm just reediting an episode on how dub was born where I say how it was a big cast of players, and things evolved incrementally.

@@MusicEnthuZone Admittedly Tubbs developed and mastered the techniques that were pioneered by others, but I still think the others deserve a mention (and more), even if we don't know exactly who was responsible for the early proto-dubs ... and all that guff about him 'modifying' the mixer ... I mean why would he? It was a proven hit making desk from its time at Dynamic, and a quality piece of kit (if a bit old fashioned in 1971/2) ... Jammy's says he never made any changes and the desk has been looked at and there's nothing to say that it's been modified ... I'm sure Tubbs would have replaced worn faders and recapped it, but that's very standard procedure to keep things up to spec ... and there were no mute buttons by the way ...

Well, my source for the modification of the board is an interview with Tubby's Nephew who says his dad helped and he was there. He literally says it was broken and they rebuilt it. Maybe there was a reason Byron Lee sold it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gqx2ZpmYubnQXWg.htmlsi=dH6YHNGU7kyI5-rn Why? Well, as the excerpt I quoted said they took it from 150hz-6khz to 20hz to 12khz in range (from memory that bit). That's a difference. I definitely think the 'Big Knob' was stock by the way if a one off. As for Jammy saying it wasn't modified, I've got him on tape here saying that Tubby kept his techniques to himself 'Not even I got them'. So I'm inclined to belive there was serious modification done. I know from limited experience making distortion pedals (which are just bad amplifiers) that putting new caps and resistors in a circuit radically changes it's frequency response and characteristics. Yes there were other dub producers, but he was the engine room of innovation. In the same nephew interview he describes how they rebuilt from scratch and recalibrated the tape machines, including the tape heads. That's in depth stuff. I doubt any other mixing engineer on the island could have done that. I don't think there was anybody in the world tbh who integrated the disciplines of amplification (those crossovers were integrated into signal splitting curcuits). And yes, maybe there were no mute switches but are you saying those are fades? Some kind of muting was going on. The desk is worshipped but anyone who's used one knows its just a way to connect stuff. I think it was the fact that he optimised stuff that got such a great sound. I can listen to trojan dub box sets, Joe Gibbs etc all day long but there's just something about the gritty sound that came through that shack for me. And that's what I was getting at with this video. It's a companion piece to the ones about Scratch and the one I'm reeditingbaboutbhowndub has no real father, it evolved.

Yeah, I’ve heard that interview but it doesn’t make sense to me … it’s unlikely that such a well built mixer would have such a poor frequency response - on every channel ? - and Dynamics and Federal definitely had good engineers who could maintain the mixers and tape recorders over the years, so I’m inclined to think there’s some exaggeration going on there … but if you’re happy to believe it all then fair enough, I’ve been in this game a long time so I’m probably far too cynical! The HPF is a standard Altec, it was already in the mixer when Dynamics bought it second hand from the US, btw. … and Jammy told me he wished there were mute switches on the board, it would have been easier than using the faders, although it’s not hard to pull them down quickly … which tunes do you think sound like mute switches ?

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gbypmtd2mtu3iqs.htmlsi=V52MnQRmL5OXHHnr this is the first that came to mind. Fair enough if Jammy said that to you, I'll believe totally. Maybe the faders sounded best maxxed out so easier to drop in and out. Perhaps what I'm hearing as mutes is a Patchbay being plugged and unplugged? In any case there was a lot of ingenuity going on. And yes maybe a bit of exaggeration.

That's a really nice dub. Got every element hasn't it? And thank you, I put a few late nights into this, glad it shows.

Thank you too! I'll be following this up, there'smore to the story.