How Long Can We Climb At Tour De France Speed? | GCN Vs The Alpe
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Жыл бұрын6.1W/kg for 36 minutes. That’s what Sepp Kuss did up Alpe d’Huez in the 2022 Tour de France to set the Strava KOM. But what would happen if we rode at that pace? How long can we keep up with the fastest cyclists in the world on an epic climb? Manon, Si, Conor, Hank and hill climb king Andrew Feather take on a virtual Sepp in an Alpe du Zwift challenge to find out!
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@gcn Жыл бұрын
How long can you hold 6.1W/kg? 👀🚴
@MrPharmageek Жыл бұрын
Maybe 40 seconds. Once. Followed by a long lay down and cake.
@ChristianNorling Жыл бұрын
@@MrPharmageekThat do sound reasonable 😅
@DoNuT_1985 Жыл бұрын
1:15 last year... Now, I don't know, I'm more of a tractor than a race car.
@BreakawayB Жыл бұрын
About as long as it took me to read that sentence.
@Erhan_H Жыл бұрын
About 40 seconds, on a good day.
@shaunmcnally7631 Жыл бұрын
What's the most impressive is that he set the record on day 12 of the Tour and having raced about 150 km just before the climb.
@kellyodriscoll1411 Жыл бұрын
Sepp also holds the KOM up LCC to Snowbird entry 2 in Utah. Some consider this tougher than the Alp D”Huez. What more impressive is he did this at the end of 100 mile and dropped everyone so he had no help.
@jimbaumli8809 Жыл бұрын
Also, after already climbing the Col du Galibier (23km @ 5.1%) & the Col de la Croix de Fer (29.1km @ 5.2%) earlier in the stage
@lj2811 Жыл бұрын
And it was over 35 degrees Celsius …
@Ali_Kurt Жыл бұрын
Yeah xD like WHAT
@skylerschwendeman Жыл бұрын
@@lj2811 ideal temp for climbing well honestly. Hotter is generally better for that.
@morgand1995 Жыл бұрын
hank getting binned in the lead in is a victory for regular cyclists everywhere 😂
@colinjockgraham Жыл бұрын
Best part of show lol
@the_joe_reynolds_foundation Жыл бұрын
haha "I reckon i can hang for 15 minutes."
@Bluesman2509 Жыл бұрын
@@the_joe_reynolds_foundation 😂
@DanielSong39 Жыл бұрын
I think we all know that none of those GCN people are "regular cyclists" I can't keep up for even 1 second on that slope, my legs simply would not move at all
@brandonevans2588 Жыл бұрын
didn't tighten his shoes. That's all it was
@10415153 Жыл бұрын
Andrew is a machine! It’s a shame we couldn’t see his heart rate data because he looked unbelievably relaxed as the others were in the red at 180+ bpm 😂
@FitnessSynthesis Жыл бұрын
He’s on juice 140-160bpm
@gcn Жыл бұрын
He's always cool calm and collected! 🙌 What challenge do you think we should send Feather on next?
@0836whimper Жыл бұрын
It’s a great video - well done. But agree…we needed to know way more about Andrew’s ride ! E.g. notice he seemingly did the entire thing out of the saddle and at relatively low rpm
@441milachik Жыл бұрын
This is i think 4 or 6 video that they do this without heart rate data, we still do not know why.
@aprotista Жыл бұрын
I really love how Andrew is pretty much part of the gang now. ❤
@kristiantheslayer Жыл бұрын
After that phone call it's now was part of the gang.
@cedrickclemente8106 Жыл бұрын
@@kristiantheslayer may I know who's that Jonas one that Andrew been "talking" after the swift?
@bobroberts5820 Жыл бұрын
@@cedrickclemente8106 if you're being serious it was a joke referring to Jonas Vingegaard who won the tour de france last year. Like oh wow that dude climbs fast he should domestique for Jonas kinda thing
@DanielSong39 Жыл бұрын
I think Andrew is a former professional?
@satori4183 Жыл бұрын
Manon is too modest, she hung in there in the lead-in and then went 45 sec up the Alpe (not 20 sec) 👏
@gcn Жыл бұрын
She smashed it as usual!!! 🙌
@kn9z Жыл бұрын
Andrew is the beast 😮
@marcm9074 Жыл бұрын
Soooooo entertaining!!! Hats off to Andrew for smashing it. You guys and gal inspire me to keep riding hard. I'm 62 yrs old!
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Keep it up Marc!!
@kevin._.farren Жыл бұрын
Interesting ending. No chat with Andrew afterwards or numbers from the effort?
@robburton3255 9 ай бұрын
My question is: WHY is Andrew still an armature? He's a beast! Love the video! Thanks GCN!
@justinyeom1828 25 күн бұрын
Cuz you make way more money as a lawyer than being a mediocre pro cyclist
@BurtonHohman Жыл бұрын
I really hope they add this as a permanent pacer to Zwift that would be cool to try tdf paces. If only for about 20 seconds
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Great idea! 20 seconds would be good going!!! 🙌
@velogoo Жыл бұрын
yeah... and the option to set off half an hour before it!
@98408143 Жыл бұрын
@@velogoo LOL
@NunoJoel Жыл бұрын
Andrew is Amazing! Even GCN team deserves a thumbs up just for going in 👏
@gcn Жыл бұрын
We always get a little nervous when Feather comes to the office, it's going to be a tough day 🥵
@robw718 Жыл бұрын
Loved this! It's a sobering reminder as to how much faster the tour professionals are even in comparison to the GCN ex-professionals. Andrew Feather is an inspiration - a truly gifted amateur who can ride with the best in the world, and always makes great viewing. Well done all - great video as usual!
@taavinen Жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this 🙌🏼 We all know the pros are exceptionally fast. This really put it into perspective for me just how fast the best of the best truly are. Massive effort Andrew congrats 🤙🏼
@ethangodridge6833 Жыл бұрын
Excellent work Andrew! Crazy the power the pros put down after all the days of racing prior.
@manueldeubler1127 Жыл бұрын
Der Richie und der Knaupi sind auch dabei 😂 Da lohnt sich das warten auf ein Video bei GCNaufDeutsch
@andrewmcalister3462 Жыл бұрын
So many great moments in this video. Insulting Andrew, the ill wishes from Sepp, Hank getting dropped on the lead-in, the team going out to lunch while Feather is still on the bike even the name of the robo-partner, Klimbing Kuss. 😂😂😂
@FabriceSymonds Жыл бұрын
I've done both. AdZ 12 or so times and AdH twice. I can categorically say that the virtual AdZ runs MUCH MUCH easier than the real deal. No question.
@colinmckague2656 Жыл бұрын
10/10. Best GCN video in a long time. Good laughs
@seattlegrrlie Жыл бұрын
Just a reminder that "call me Andrew" has a full time job. The man is truly a legend
@GOLTEB Жыл бұрын
It's always a treat to watch our favorite climbing twig Andrew!
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Did you watch him take on the climb in real life on GCN+? 👉 gcn.eu/KOM
@commander993 Жыл бұрын
Properly laughed at that Twig/Andrew part! 😂 Awesome video!!
@BreakawayB Жыл бұрын
🇺🇸Kuss’ 2022 performance on AdH was amazing, it was so inspiring!
@BreakawayB Жыл бұрын
@Chris Bloodknot, it inspired me to improve my own climbing skills.
@gcn Жыл бұрын
It was pretty impressive stuff! Did it get you fired up to get climbing? 👀
@ad9898 Жыл бұрын
It was impressive, but I wonder what time Pog and Vingegaard posted, it must have been quicker?
@silasrobertshaw8122 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Its always good to get a little reality check. For me its always when the pro come flying by me in Sacramento when they come out for the Tour of California on their relaxed spin rides.
@peterl3463 Жыл бұрын
First of all well done to all GCN presenters for their effort. I want to say that Si while at 186bpm he could still talk. At that bpm i can't even breathe!!! Well done also to Andrew man!!! He a Beast!!!!
@jimcouchon1266 Жыл бұрын
It concerns me that I giggled while these folks were red-lining… 🙄 Knowing I would Last only 3 maybe 5 seconds it was still cool to see that folks here had the stones to try it in front of their followers. True winners all. Really love the content you put out. ❤
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jim!
@DoNuT_1985 Жыл бұрын
That's highly motivational... I was planning to clear the Über Pretzel route tomorrow, with the Alpe at the end of a 120k ride and another 1000 meters of climbing. Yay!
@AnvilAirsoftTV Жыл бұрын
Fueling Fueling Fueling.
@DoNuT_1985 Жыл бұрын
@@AnvilAirsoftTV I know, I already bonked badly on the PRL.
@nicolas2838 Жыл бұрын
The Uber is such a monster, when you re climbing to the radio tower and after passing the gravel of the jungle it eats so much energy. So you re already cooked when reaching the alps
@daryl4841 Жыл бұрын
That, and a couple other long routes are the only routes I have yet to complete on Zwift. Kindof dreading the thought of ever doing it, but the xp gain will be nice.
@nicolas2838 Жыл бұрын
@@daryl4841 i tried it 3 times already. Last time I had to aboard 19km before completion after 4 hours bcs work was calling. I wish you all the best. Might try again on Sunday.
@ljadf Жыл бұрын
Great video, but I was somewhat disappointed that we didn't see Andrew's lead built up and maintained. It seemed like the editor lost interest after Connor dropped out.
@PaulJakma Жыл бұрын
Yeah, strange ending.
@jtmuso Жыл бұрын
Props to Illi Gardner for holding first place for QOM’s! Machine
@gcn Жыл бұрын
She is a machine! Would you like to see us do a video with her?
@brannmacfinnchad9056 Жыл бұрын
@@gcn YES
@jtmuso Жыл бұрын
@@gcn that would be great!
@jamesallan8439 Жыл бұрын
love it, Andrew is insane. My physiology background would love to see his VO2 data
@lukeharrison9109 Жыл бұрын
What a rider/climber Andrew is.
@e92zerorider93 Жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!!!! Poor Manon having to hug the fan to cool down afterward...
@primaltone Жыл бұрын
That was awesome in so many ways. More of this please! I was rooting for all of you, but Dayum, the Twig can climb. I loved the intro: "Good luck to all, except Andrew". That's high praise indeed.
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Did you see Andrew, Il Bandito & more take on the Alpe on GCN+? 👉 gcn.eu/KOM
@primaltone Жыл бұрын
@@gcn Not yet 🙁
@TheMachoGabacho Жыл бұрын
@@gcn thanks for the link. It opened right up in the GCN app. I’ll be watching that later today.
@douglaspate9314 Жыл бұрын
Sepp lives at about 1900m altitude in Andorra and just going home after a training ride down in Spain is a 1200m gain. Even on a rest day he'll do more metres than an Essex resident in a year!
@siegfriedpfeifer1379 Жыл бұрын
Mannon sitting in front of the fan 😂
@nicolas2838 Жыл бұрын
Wow never thought Manon is so strong. The lead out was already at a killer pace and she still did almost a minute of climbing.
@prfit Жыл бұрын
She's legit: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manon_Lloyd
@manateesarepeopletoo Жыл бұрын
You didn't think multi-award winning international track cyclist Manon was that strong?
@arjunyeleshwarapu Жыл бұрын
why did she retire so young?
@nicolas2838 Жыл бұрын
@@manateesarepeopletoo but you know the difference in training and body composition between a track cyclist and a climber? Additionally she had a video before in which she said that she almost did no cycling the year before. (Not sure about that one)
@andyhaochizhang 10 ай бұрын
Didn't she suffer a couple of pretty serious injuries towards the end of her pro career? I'm sure those had some impact on her potential, or she might had decided its not worth risking long term damage to continue. Women track cycling doesn't pay that much and it'd be pretty hard for her to make national team with the GB team being stacked.
@terryg652 Жыл бұрын
Also remember Sepp Kuss didn't have fresh legs, he rode 94mi (at race speeds) BEFORE he got to Alpe d’Huez. AND he rode 11 prior TDF stages. Go ride a TDF stage, then try climbing Alpe d’Huez the next day, after a 90mi warmup. 😂😂😂
@ptkewl Жыл бұрын
Also remember Sepp Kuss is a professional athlete who does that for a living. This is just for a bit of fun, not taking anything away from the TdF achievements.
@Ditypo Жыл бұрын
Conor's commitment at the start haha "Yeah, I'm not getting dropped"
@h31sman Жыл бұрын
Lol Hank getting dropped in the lead out is 100% me.
@KILLTHEREDDITOR Жыл бұрын
LMAO at conor "I'm not getting dropped"
@goodcompanycoffee Жыл бұрын
Watching the GCN presenters suffering was good fun. Andrew is an absolute animal wow he even beat the pacer
@TipsSportsTV Жыл бұрын
Great video, I really enjoyed it 😃 Sep kiss is a very great person
@veloman59 Жыл бұрын
Andrew is incredible - why isn't he on a World Tour team? Love the way he can hold a conversation whilst producing an insane amount of watts! Chapeau Sir
@tohidnikkhah 11 ай бұрын
Cause he's not taking doping tests as many times as pro riders do. I also doubt if he could show the same performance after 150 km of a tough ride where riders already tackle couple of serious climbs only to reach to the foot of the final climb.
@veloman59 11 ай бұрын
@@tohidnikkhah How do you know? What gives you the credibility to make such an assumption?
@FoobsTon 4 ай бұрын
@@tohidnikkhah you've postulated two different arguments. Which is it?
@Frostbiker Жыл бұрын
1:57 Whoever chose that particular picture to showcase deserves a promotion. I did look great on that speedo.
@Kimberlytheresam Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@johndef5075 11 ай бұрын
That was amazing. Sepp is a beast❤
@murtheblur33 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Loved the humor and inspired to be a better climber. Thanks!
@gcn Жыл бұрын
We love to hear it! What sort of training have you been doing to become a better climber?
@murtheblur33 Жыл бұрын
@@gcn Thanks GCN! I've been tackling a couple Alpe de Zwift attempts as well as doing some shorter interval training on Zwift. Looking forward to getting outside on the roads soon now that Spring is here. Keep up the great content!
@zao.224 Жыл бұрын
Hank! What happened?
@belperflyer7419 Жыл бұрын
No time ever, even when I was relatively fit and our holidays consisting of cycle-camping in the French mountains. I think I rode at about 6mph up a major Col like (say) Tormalet loaded and not that much faster light :)
@jonathanzappala Жыл бұрын
Well based on my current power curve 6.1 w/kg is just 1:10-1:15 for me. Impressive. I did all d’Huez in real life faster than I’ve ever done Zwift. Real life motivation.
@k4z1m.ogm3n Жыл бұрын
Great content! Cheers guys for this. Human body is amazing.. Apart from the body conditioning and help your cells in your body to adapt to this, there are also 'gain-of-function' muscle mutations which may also cause lactic acid to build up way slower.. That way, you are all set to become super athelete.
@TheoreticallyNo Жыл бұрын
This vid really shows how pros are on another planet compared to even fit regular cyclists. I did the maths and I’d be at 384 W to hit 6.1 W/kg and that is absurd. I’ve done AdZ at 4 W/kg and felt like vomiting at the end.
@wotexpat9367 Жыл бұрын
Andrew is The Beast... but also The Twig. I love that. Hope he realises it is an amazing compliment...
@gcn Жыл бұрын
We think he's getting used to these compliments 😂
@Erhan_H Жыл бұрын
The angle in Manon's neck, while trying to look at Conor, is amazing...
@andrewmcalister3462 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I got a stiff neck just looking at that scene.
@gonzalezgaraypablo Жыл бұрын
reallllllly trying not to comment Manon's cool down technique with the wahoo fan 😂😂
@AliAdam80 Жыл бұрын
AM PROUD OF YOU SI!!!!!!!!! YOU DIDN'T LET ME DOWN!!!!!!
@alexanderhall4281 Жыл бұрын
I think the altitude would also have been a factor too
@SamuelCox-dm6tg Жыл бұрын
I rode alongside Fabian Cancellara in the Geelong world championship I think in 2011 (or 2012) on my Bianchi Pista for about 100m before he totally burned me
@Questioneverything72 Жыл бұрын
Andrew is so strong. I would like to see that effort on the real climb.
@richarddidier5146 8 ай бұрын
That was fun to watch.
@phillipbailey7080 Жыл бұрын
Si showing strong form but feather is a human metronome!! (and he can sort out your legal issues…) what a man 😂
@lachlanfogarty5115 Жыл бұрын
Hi guys - great video :) - I’m wondering where I could get a copy of the photo that pops up at 2:17? I’m standing right there behind the first cyclist and would love the original as a keepsake. I’d probably get dropped before Hank if I did the challenge if that counts in any way 😂
@brandywell44 Жыл бұрын
Zwift looks good fun, especially in a group.
@buffviking2379 Жыл бұрын
The only thing faster than Andrew up the climb was Hank off the bike.
@daredemontriple6 Жыл бұрын
I'm 116kg and my FTPs about 225 I think, I'm out of breath just thinking about Alpe d'Huez! So how long could I hold on to TdF pace? A solid 30-40 miliseconds I reckon :D
@themusette5894 Жыл бұрын
Great ride, but Zwift is Zwift, IRL is IRL. Oh, and we're forgetting the peloton had raced 152km to the foot of Alpe d'Huez.
@Cyclingismywholelife Жыл бұрын
Hank the Tank! Thumbs go up!
@sdh8286 Жыл бұрын
I rode up the Alpe at 52 a few years ago, suffice to say, Sepp could have cycled up twice in the time it took me. The only thing we have in common is I managed to do it without stopping too. Those first four hairpins.........
@lunam7249 9 ай бұрын
lucky you didnt have a heart attack...seriously
@sdh8286 9 ай бұрын
@@lunam7249 At 56, I'm just back from doing the Glandon/Madeleine/Croix de Fer. Age is not an issue if you are fit enough
@lunam7249 9 ай бұрын
@@sdh8286 respect and cherish a healthy body....its a spiritual temple you know.....until you or i have had cardiac spectral magnetic imaging, anyone can have a micro heart attack or stroke.....climbing mountains is NOT an aerobic "healthy" activity....it is abuse, like the tour de france....
@cccycling5835 Жыл бұрын
I’m lucky enough to live in Morgan Hill, home of Specialized, and therefore can actually compare my best times on roads against people like Filippo Ganna and such and they’re twice as fast as me, as a fast beginner. I’ve tried racing some of the riders out here and I can probably hang for maybe a minute, max, and I’m already the fastest rider in my (gravel) group. Non-cyclists and other recreational riders tell me I’m fast, but these guys are just on another planet.
@johndef5075 11 ай бұрын
I remember getting passed by Tinker Juarez on a mtb trail before a big Pro race. I considered myself somewhat fast but he was out of sight in seconds😅
@sym0n42 10 ай бұрын
Da Weinzheimer wieder vorne mit dabei, geil!😂
@thebigchip 10 ай бұрын
I recognise that opening passageway as the location of The Breakaway Instragram shorts!
@riverhunterquebec Жыл бұрын
Rowan Barrett from Quebec is a solid amateur climber. He has lot of famous KOM in America
@dmv4554 Жыл бұрын
But he doesn’t race. Only does Strava koms.
@larrylem3582 Жыл бұрын
The difficult lead-in before the start of the segment...hahahahah
@wimcop4285 Жыл бұрын
How many km did sepp before the Climb? 😊
@terryg652 Жыл бұрын
150km (94mi) Plus 11 prior TdF stages.
@anguswalsh778 Жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see if you could keep up with the grupetto's pace
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Hank couldn't! 😂
@ryanmalpass7686 Жыл бұрын
Feather is a beast!!
@alexaudiovisuals Жыл бұрын
Could've mentioned Richie pulling for Andrew, what an effort!
@JFomo Жыл бұрын
Where's Ollie???
@thelars1569 Жыл бұрын
great video, would have loved to see some comment on the performance of gcn germany though
@reh9999 Жыл бұрын
Love this
@sethno1ram1 Жыл бұрын
I've done alpes dhuez twice. I was dead halfway up... to the first hairpin
@theblackandwhitefilmproject Жыл бұрын
I rode Alpe d'Huez 15 years ago at about 4km/hr and legs cramping up at the end so close....
@gcn Жыл бұрын
Did you make to the top? 👀
@theblackandwhitefilmproject Жыл бұрын
@@gcn Of course!
@vandwellerfeller Жыл бұрын
The Durango Kid!
@oldfrend 2 ай бұрын
nobody seems to notice that feather was also no.7 on the real d'huez, a minute and a half behind. shows the difference between a lab experiment and the real deal. kuss is a climbing monster; he'd probably win tdf kom if he wasn't tied to jonas' wheel as mega mountain domestique.
@bateriayvr8988 Жыл бұрын
Great job gang-- Feather is a beast as usual! The only one missing was Ollie-- where was he??
@bateriayvr8988 Жыл бұрын
...and what was that ultra secretive call Feather received, hmm? Is this for an upcoming GCN video? 😉
@andrewmcalister3462 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I would have thought this one was in Ollie's wheelhouse...
@99cya 10 ай бұрын
hey guys, just for comparison: kipchoge had an output of 345w for his sub 2 hours marathon run.
@STUNN312 Жыл бұрын
This is Awesome
@VeloJake Жыл бұрын
They should add the Mark Cavendish pacer, so 90% of us can get dropped out of the grupetto.
@katiel7166 Жыл бұрын
"Jonas who?" I cackled at that point
@maurits3056 Жыл бұрын
Sepp Kuss would beat the shit out of this bot if hadnt ride a 150km and 11 stages of the tour the France, still a incredible job from Andrew though.
@DanielSong39 Жыл бұрын
For someone like me it's not a matter of effort, my legs would literally not move if I tried to climb a slope like that A lot of these GCN guys are retired pros so don't be too discouraged if you can't come anywhere near their numbers
@jw3638 Жыл бұрын
Where's Ollie?
@the_joe_reynolds_foundation Жыл бұрын
"And here were are, immediately in the red, HANKing it." 11:21
@markdwelchforcongress4456 Жыл бұрын
Sepp is a monster !!
@ShakeNBakeUK Жыл бұрын
9:31 LOOOOOOOOOL
@whatwelearned Жыл бұрын
Conor doesn't get enough credit for being a quality diesel engine
@brettguitarlessons Жыл бұрын
Yeah dude he's huge and he hung on that long?! Amazing
@konstantinosevangeliou9473 Жыл бұрын
He is an ex-pro, so his numbers are still pretty good.
@brettguitarlessons Жыл бұрын
@@konstantinosevangeliou9473 oh yeah but I meant how good he did relative to the others as well.
@ripapa6355 Жыл бұрын
I don't know if it's the riding or the acting, but I'm here for it 😅😅
@T1MVK Жыл бұрын
Liam and golf mates. Your show is brilliant. No need to apologies on my account. I would love to take you on at golf though. We’re the same age, same handicap and similar sense of humour. Would be amazing to be part of your show.
@_PATRlCK Жыл бұрын
@richi die Maschine 🥰
@twatson4887 Жыл бұрын
Can I lose 30cm in height, 10kg weight and 40 years in age then I could say after a bit of training… love your videos they keep me motivated to cycle when I can’t thank you😀
@alexaudiovisuals Жыл бұрын
Did we see the German guys in the list there? Psyched for their video on it :)
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