How Mad Max Movies Were Made: PART 2 (Beyond Thunderdome & Fury Road)

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• How Mad Max Movies Wer...
Link to Melvin Z's blog with a complete list of similarities between the Mad Max series and Lawrence of Arabia
seri-z.blogspot.com/2020/06/l...
In PART 2 of this series we'll take a look at how Beyond Thunderdome and Fury Road were made.
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Intro: (0:00)
Presenting Mad Max 3 to indigenous Australians: (0:15)
Borrowing from "Lawrence of Arabia": (1:16)
Stealing from Russell Hoban: (1:55)
Creating "Fury Road": (4:29)
"Fury Road" based on the Pleiades myth?: (7:45)
Turning "Fury Road" into a common myth: (9:56)
Proof that "Fury Road" is a common myth: (10:54)
Breaking the 4th wall: (12:59)
Conclusion: (15:23)

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@robertlautner4980
@robertlautner4980 4 жыл бұрын
Great as ever. A tremendous very much appreciated series devoted to something that a lot of us old boys hold dear. I'm 50 with four sons. Forced Max on all of 'em and they love it. Thank you for your continued work.
@jacknewby5323
@jacknewby5323 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 16 and I found this movie on my own how funny is that
@generacionmarttin
@generacionmarttin 4 жыл бұрын
Just imagine, hundred years into the future. Young people come together around a camfire where the older starts telling this myth, this story of a warrior, running from his past into wild adventures. Everyone imagines this person like a traveler, with his horse, and his sword, in the middle of nowhere. And then the camera swtiches slowly to a black path, known as a road. The last road, and this warrior appears on his black horse, that's actually the Falcon XB screaming it's V8, followed by maniacs, fighters on berserk, completely high on madness. That's the story of the ROAD WARRIOR
@zordmaker
@zordmaker 4 жыл бұрын
In 1997 mate.. Miller was in Sydney working on Babe Pig in the City. I know, I was there. And I recall lots of lunch time talk about Fury Road - well before it became "Fury Road". Most of the initial concepts came down to four people : Miller himself, Peter Pound, Colin Gibson and Mark McKinley. This last name was Colin's go to guy for film car mechanics at the time, much the same as I was for his set electrics. Much of this lunch room banter would live on to inspire Miller as to what was and wasn't possible... and the rest is history. I went on to get my name in lights (literally) two years later with Moulin Rouge, leaving Colin and Mark grinding on for another ten years before they finally got to make their pub talk dream.. Fury Road. Gotta love Aussie film making of that era. Oh and yeah.. the Pleiades myth... you are correct. I heard that one mentioned several times in those early days, particularly in references to aboriginal mythology - never thought anything of it - makes sense now. I guess it was the collective attempt to make the film as Australian as possible... even though half of it was filmed in Namibia..
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a way to contact you so we can discuss all of this, other than YT comment section?
@zordmaker
@zordmaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible look up Zordmaker on farcebook
@zordmaker
@zordmaker 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible look up zordmaker or paul matthews on Farcebook
@mokwella
@mokwella 4 жыл бұрын
I have had this experience a number of times when investigating television shows and movies - at first the story seems simple, then you see there are layers, then you see where the inspiration comes from, then you see the homages and imitation of other work, then you see how derivative many aspects of the work are, and then you discover the outright plagiarism in evidence and finally you hear about the suppressed lawsuits. I honestly think much of Hollywood (and I include commercial film productions around the world) is raw hucksterism at this point aided by high prices lawyers. Not a new observation, I know, but hugely disappointing each time I encounter it with a work I thought escaped this cycle.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
It is what it is but it's a fascinating story nonetheless, find all this stuff out didn't ruin the Mad Max franchise at all to me, it's just more layers to uncover. I didn't really touch upon that much on who could be really responsible for straight up ripping off but I have a good lead from a few sources that let's say... don't really have fond memories of working with Terry Hayes. More than that, in earlier versions of Beyond Thunderdome scripts didn't even hide how much they ripped Riddley Walker off. I'm talking the SAME character names in both the script and the book, that's just plain robbery.
@P33b4Ugo5omwh3r3
@P33b4Ugo5omwh3r3 4 жыл бұрын
It's all a mixed bag really. Some strait up copy others some get inspired or pay a respectful nod to one another. For example in this exact case Quentin Tarantino gets lots of hate how he is a copy-paster and mostly shit talker in movies even tho reality is he is a movie addict and out right say he loves movies, he grew up on them and uses lots of scenes or camera angles as a respectful nod to his favorites. Movies made for movie buffs. Outright says hey this is from there and then and I will use it or used it etc. When he works with someone he also hosts movie days and together watch something and after watching he gladly talks about the movies. He pays respect and that is the difference. Others can happen that they ripoff some book or strait up steal something from someone who they know he wont have the backing or funds to sue them. Even tho beating the shit out of you or even murdering you for it one day isn't too much out of question either. So most of the actual parasitic copy-pasters probably don't sleep well at night or at all knowing they fucked up. So there are always two sides of the story and with it I carefully choose what movie I buy and watch where.
@buddhamack1491
@buddhamack1491 4 жыл бұрын
There are no original stories, it's impossible not to be influenced by history, even if you don't realise you are being influenced. Nearly every story uses "The Heroes Journey" as a guide and no one cops flack for that. The Riddley Walker and Beyond Thunderdome similarities I feel deserved some compensation but taking a myth and using that as a basis is fine. Inspiration has to come from somewhere, just give credit where it's due. It's a lot harder to hide plagiarism these days, you will get found out.
@emulation2369
@emulation2369 4 жыл бұрын
I just want another MM game...
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
We all do my guy, we all do.
@alanp3334
@alanp3334 4 жыл бұрын
One with no bloody minefields.
@Cocubin
@Cocubin 4 жыл бұрын
The aboriginal man is in thr game. He is the guy that levels u up. I just hope mad max game has the almost witcher like. Unlike being a batman on the ground. More stories in the story i suppose. Unlike the rip off batman version that was repetitive and long fetch quests. But graphically and the vehicle gameplay and conbat was great and base capture was great, if it all ties up a story like witcher.
@nickfatsis9607
@nickfatsis9607 4 жыл бұрын
@@Cocubin The level up bloke doesn't sound Aboriginal to me, Aborigines have very distinct accents.
@Cocubin
@Cocubin 4 жыл бұрын
@@nickfatsis9607 well yeah. But the description fits.griffa is max from.the future. No need to use their accents.
@h.b.hatecraft953
@h.b.hatecraft953 4 жыл бұрын
The oil company in the Mad Max films is called Seven Sisters Petroleum. You're also leaving out how Thunder Dome and Fury Road connect to Beowulf.Thunder Dome is young Beowulf and Fury Road is old Beowulf and Max was to die in Fury Road just like Beowulf. Master Blaster is Grendel. Immortan Joe is the dragon. You've also got many other call outs to Norse myth in both films as well.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
I left out a lot of things from the video because it would make the video too long, for example there's stuff lifted from Stagecoach etc. Yeah the 7 Sisters Petroleum was there as well but to my knowledge it really didn't have much to do with the Pleiades myth at all. George Miller was only starting with mythology around 1980.
@h.b.hatecraft953
@h.b.hatecraft953 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible I see no issue no issue with a 10 hour documentary of Mad Max films. Hint... Hint...😉 Jokes aside. I love this channel. Great stuff man.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
@Derek McCumber AFAIK, Max wasn't supposed to be killed in any early version of Fury Road but I'm curious how the events of Fury Road would play out in the earliest of stages of scriptwriting. There was an idea for Max, the 5 Wives and Furiosa to arrive at 'The Edge of the World' which was essentially reaching the coastline and diving into the dried up ocean bed where a new civilization could begin. This ending was of course ditched and turned into 'let's return to the Citadel' but it was still used for the Mad Max video game where most of the game plays out on a dried up ocean bed. The concept of dried up oceans in the Mad Max universe is interesting in itself with people assuming that oceans just evaporated post Mad Max 2. I don't think that was the case at all. Looking at the behind the scenes miniature set of 'bombed out Sydney' - they purposefully filmed it with the actual ocean in the background. So the waters didn't evaporate completely at all. But that's just super nerdy to get into and it's a topic for another discussion.
@h.b.hatecraft953
@h.b.hatecraft953 4 жыл бұрын
@Derek McCumber I saw it either in one of the videos here or on another channel where they talked about Max dying as an ending in one of the concept scripts. I think it was one of the videos dealing with the video game VS. the Fury Road movie. Anywho the Max finding his humanity and settling down is kinda a nice ending if not a little too nice for Max. What I liked was the fan theory that Max in Fury Road was the Feral Kid pretending to be Max because of childhood idol worship. Not only would it fix plot wholes but it could set up a movie with Tom and Mel playing both the old and new Mad Max in the same film. Kind like The Maverick Movie with Mel and James Garner. Just without comedy and with lots of cool cars.
@h.b.hatecraft953
@h.b.hatecraft953 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible When I first saw the end of Thunderdome I just figured the coastline had changed because of nukes and that caused environmental issues. I just could never buy into the idea of the oceans going away like with Solarbabies or Tank Girl. Being that we're on an ocean planet.
@clay_reznor647
@clay_reznor647 4 жыл бұрын
"There is always a lighthouse, there's always a man, there's always a city." Bioshock INFINITE. David Lynch's TWIN PEAKS was a show about people in a show... created for our amusement. We also ask these philosophical questions about life and purpose; if this is a dream then who is the dreamer?
@badapplechad
@badapplechad 4 жыл бұрын
This was great... SO impressed with your work. Thank you.
@chameleonstealth
@chameleonstealth 4 жыл бұрын
Man one of my favourite series, thanks for making this.
@SomeGuy-hd4cn
@SomeGuy-hd4cn 4 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the music in the movies, Ive always thought that the reason the movies resonate as timeless is that George was wise enough to know never to use current music as an ingredient. Can you imagine the chase scene in Road Warrior with the BeeGees 'Stayin, alive?' So many wannabe movies make this mistake and it immediatly dates the movie. In the road warrior I always thought the only thing that really took me out was the crimped hair on the main heroine. That fad only lasted a few months. A girl I had a crush on in highschool crimped her hair so maybe its more me than the movie. My heart breaks a little too much everytime she dies... ...Anyways, orchestral music adds to the tension and really makes the action.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. That's why Road Warrior's soundtrack is timeless, there's not a shred of anything that would date it. Couldn't say that about MMBT's soundtrack and Fury Road's OST isn't as defined as RW's, a lot of drums, score not really that custom tailored for each scene in my opinion.
@patjanus0069
@patjanus0069 4 жыл бұрын
I love all 3 soundtrack from Mad Max, in 1981 no one used pop music in movies unless they were actually composed for the movie, like the case of Beegees staying alive for Saturday Night fever, today EVERYONE uses pop music, current and classic songs, for movies of every genre, it has become anoying, but now most modern audiences discover classic songs from superhero movies, I was listening to Cat Stevens Father and son and every comment was about a new Marvel movie that had this classic song
@TeatroGrotesco
@TeatroGrotesco 3 жыл бұрын
The 7 sisters was the name on the oil tanker in Mad Max 2, 7 sisters is also what the major oil companies were called, wrapped up into the ultimate myth the 7 sisters or the Pleiades (Some info from Rob Agar) So as the Max story was told and retold, the gas would run out & have no worth, because people wouldn't use or know what it was used for, so the 7 sisters oil tanker became real 7 women, the importance of oil changed to the importance of continuing healthy life, same story just details re-understood. (Edit: spelling)
@aXBlackDeathXa
@aXBlackDeathXa 4 жыл бұрын
Cryptomnesia - when a forgotten memory returns without its being recognized as such by the subject, who believes it is something new and original.
@nepgya
@nepgya 4 жыл бұрын
So Thunderdome is a mix of Riddley Walker and Lawrence of Arabia with Mad Max skin
@ChrisPage68
@ChrisPage68 4 жыл бұрын
Riddley Walker was set in a future England. The language of the children in Mad Max 3 is recognisable English.
@dillondudley3048
@dillondudley3048 4 жыл бұрын
so excited for this 😍
@KSMP
@KSMP 3 жыл бұрын
Riddley Walker is one of my favorite books. Maybe that's why I love Mad Max so much.
@ronernougat9874
@ronernougat9874 4 жыл бұрын
Mad Max 2015 video game Griffa is a character that appears in Mad Max a strange and mysterious person filled with wisdom and understanding of the world both he and his fellow survivors inhabit says look behind you at dune after dune of drifting half-forgotten terrors You flee them these past phantoms and the madness that crawls inside Griffa can help you venture down to where you daren't go yourself and lay bare your true promise Awesome video bro thumbs-up & keep-em coming ah Aussie Aussie oi oi
@1234Testicle
@1234Testicle 4 жыл бұрын
As Always BRAVO Sir. Another Excellent Installment. I'd Watch A Longer Video On This Subject. Thank You.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I planned on making this thing longer but YT says that people's attention span is about 10 min per video so I'd rather keep it concise before people click away. No worries though, there's going to be some more long form videos, especially the one about Immortan Joe's empire, how it worked, how it evolved etc.
@minigunmaniac2569
@minigunmaniac2569 3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever thought of maybe making a theory of where most precisely the stories of each movie take place, like some sort of wasteland map.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 3 жыл бұрын
I could do something like that, it's doable, but it would require a lot of detective work and even more guesswork. However, I could give a rough estimate where things happen in those films.
@danbarnes6751
@danbarnes6751 Жыл бұрын
I'm 49 now. My whole life changed after I saw the original at age 12. I became a motor vehicle engineer, and gave me a certain outlook on life, and what can I say but, thankyou George and Byron XXX
@bladerunner4583
@bladerunner4583 3 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU FER BRINGING TO LIGHT A LOT OF WHAT I DID NOT KNOW BOUT MY HEROES KENNEDY MILLER AND WITHOUT THEM MAD MAX WOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN BROUGHT TO LIFE AS IT IS👍😎👍
@moss4324
@moss4324 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I cannot wait to watch this and for your next video. Keep up the great work!
@lumini636
@lumini636 4 жыл бұрын
Great videos, keep them coming !
@alabvix
@alabvix 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed these videos a lot, great work man!
@RetroCarsForever
@RetroCarsForever 4 жыл бұрын
Love it. Thanks for another spectacular video!
@bananaempijama
@bananaempijama 4 жыл бұрын
Finally the 2nd part Thanks mate 👍
@762Super
@762Super 2 жыл бұрын
You nailed it. Great work, man.
@alphamorion4314
@alphamorion4314 4 жыл бұрын
As always, high quality content! Thanks a lot, can't wait for the next video! Hope you will be around and upload a little bit more often!
@Canuck1000
@Canuck1000 4 жыл бұрын
I thought that for Mad Max BT Miller wanted to do a new version of Lord of the Flies and when it did not come through, he used this idea for the next Mad Max. This is why this movie felt like two movies into one. I also thought Miller always wanted to only do two Mad Max movies. See IMDB "The film was originally not a "Mad Max" film, but a post-apocalyptic "Lord of the Flies" film about a tribe of children who are found by an adult. It became the third Mad Max film when George Miller was suggested that Max is the man who finds the children.""
@kacperborowski3158
@kacperborowski3158 2 жыл бұрын
jesus...marvelous work dude. Hats off for your effort. Quality content.
@rubendominguez9028
@rubendominguez9028 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome couple of Mad Max analysis. Thanks for your time, knowledge and your own considerations!
@TheSpeedfreak665
@TheSpeedfreak665 4 жыл бұрын
Love it as a film director and writer gives me a new angle to attack my feature film script.
@SomeGuy-hd4cn
@SomeGuy-hd4cn 4 жыл бұрын
Absoutly none of my business but,... If this your first script, i recommend the book 'Save the cat.' A very simple starter manual. The better one is Joseph cambells story circle. Much more nuanced and detailed. Like the video states and Stephen Kings whole career proves, Its not the story but how you tell it. The movie 12 Angry Men is a masterwork in storytelling. If this is your first attempt at selling a script the best advice i can give, (I was industry adjacent for a few years) is not to hold yor script as something too important to change. Theres an industry saying. 'Kill your babies.' It means if someone wants to buy your idea and then ruin it, you let them, with a smile and a paycheck. I knew of a few writers who made almost their whole career writing scripts the studio would buy and then throw into a vault. No one ever even looked at them. These studios do this if they have a story in pre production and you independantly come up with the same story. It saves them from being accused of stealing the idea and being sued. Easy way to make a few hundred thousand. (if you think writing is easy) lastly your timeframe is 2 weeks. That is all the time you get to write a two hour movie. If you cant write it in two weeks you're overthinking it. Don't use your best ideas on your first few. Save them for when you get established. I wish you the best of luck. Movie making is a snake pit with some only there to eat the other ones. Don't get discouraged, if you have time try to get a job as a gaffer or PA. You will learn very fast. I'm cheering for you.
@alainvosselman9960
@alainvosselman9960 Жыл бұрын
I still have to see Fury Road. Thanks for sharing this.
@nurgspestilence9352
@nurgspestilence9352 2 жыл бұрын
Just about to sit down and watch them all again . Figured id come and see what progress you had made along the way . Epic work again and again . I have shared your vids with a lot of my friends , and we all praise your continued work . Keep up the awesome break downs etc . I look forward to refreshing myself with your content in another couple of years when i have the need of a good fix of black on black . Kudos to you :D
@acbenepe
@acbenepe 4 жыл бұрын
loved the shot for shot analysis in this series
@alien148
@alien148 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, your content is awesome
@jdblick1002
@jdblick1002 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent upload! I started watching the mid 90's Aussie teen soap 'Heartbreak High' at the start of lockdown, thought I recognised MMFR writer Nico Lathouris from somewhere. He plays the dad George Poullos. Weird how things are conected.
@SuperMatiz
@SuperMatiz 4 жыл бұрын
Lucky one. I've trying to get an polish version of first season for about... ten years? Looks like tapes were lost or sth. You forced me to check again and looks like it's totally unobtainable right now :( Looks like I've got to get an box set if its floating around Ebays etc :(
@jdblick1002
@jdblick1002 4 жыл бұрын
@@SuperMatiz I'm in the UK and it's streaming on Amazon Prime. If you're a Prime subscriber already, one of them VPNs might help you out.
@user-wq9im1hx1p
@user-wq9im1hx1p 3 жыл бұрын
DUDE, youre amazing!!!
@LifeDeCrescendo
@LifeDeCrescendo 4 жыл бұрын
kudos man, good work
@damianstarks3338
@damianstarks3338 Жыл бұрын
This in depth mad max video is amazing.
@JONNYSORENSEN_AU
@JONNYSORENSEN_AU 2 ай бұрын
The novel pinching reminds me of how much Wachowskis pinched from Grant Morrisons "Invisibles"
@rebel_station
@rebel_station 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing vid as always
@siddharthbrahma5132
@siddharthbrahma5132 4 жыл бұрын
Gem of a video.thank u so much.
@BadApe351
@BadApe351 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I was impressed with Tom Hardy's performance I can't help thinking that Mel would have been a far better fit in the role had the stars aligned. I'd felt that prior to Fury Road going into production - and your reveal only confirms that. It's just too bad that Mel was off the rails back then. Your video has given me cause the look at George Miller in a very different light.
@Alberto-wp2vq
@Alberto-wp2vq 4 жыл бұрын
Great work man
@moseshamlett3887
@moseshamlett3887 2 жыл бұрын
Thats wild shit man. Love it.
@TheAwkwardStuffShow
@TheAwkwardStuffShow 4 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video!
@chocodiledundee1
@chocodiledundee1 4 жыл бұрын
Well done mate 👍🏼
@Galacticgospel.
@Galacticgospel. 3 жыл бұрын
i like your videos a lot, great work¡ =)
@DVincentW
@DVincentW Жыл бұрын
Babe is also a great film. Thanks for these videos.
@alisterfolson
@alisterfolson 4 жыл бұрын
What I like about the Mad Max movies is they're told from different points of view, the stories are always different and not one is entirely correct
@garygreen3062
@garygreen3062 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid 👍👍👍.
@abdool1972
@abdool1972 4 жыл бұрын
Turns out there are a few hundred myths we keep telling. I find this fascinating !
@stephenfowlie742
@stephenfowlie742 4 жыл бұрын
You literally hit the shiny nail on the fucking chrome head with this entire synopsis
@alanp3334
@alanp3334 4 жыл бұрын
The thing about Fury Road being myth also ties into why Miller refuses to be pinned down on WHEN it takes place in the Mad Max chronology. It's like trying to tie down in which year Pecos Bill dug the Rio Grande.
@isahighlander4825
@isahighlander4825 2 жыл бұрын
Mad Max 1 was for his fan base back home in QLD, 2&3 was for his demolition derby fan base, and 4 was for his conscious. That iceberg grounded itself in my life, before Mad Max 1 even had Copywrite status.
@ericmuschlitz7619
@ericmuschlitz7619 7 ай бұрын
There are no new stories. The creation of art comes from the novelty of a new way of telling it.
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect
@YesYouAreAbsolutelyCorrect 2 жыл бұрын
The thing about coincidental or not so coincidental in the works of art is that it happens all the time. And the most important thing is - how good is the end result of that stealing or borrowing. Mad Maxes are perfectly executed. They have the artistic and the engineering appeal of the engines and overall design, the composition is perfect and so is the editing. There's humor, brutality, and humanity in it. And it doesn't sacrifice the quality of the movie to push some idea or agenda. These things turned those movies into classic.
@Meccanico208
@Meccanico208 4 жыл бұрын
7 Sisters is the name of the oil company on the side of the tanker in Mad Max 2
@VancataTube
@VancataTube 4 жыл бұрын
Great 2 parter. Very interesting facts and theories. Not saying that all is facts but it leaves a little bad taste in my mouth when Miller actively goes out and says that he didn’t take inspiration from specific stories when it’s obvious.
@sonnee44
@sonnee44 3 жыл бұрын
*LOVE IT*
@zachorie3430
@zachorie3430 4 жыл бұрын
The Idea of the Aboriginal man might have still been repurposed in Fury road. In the first few minutes of the film during the escape scene, as Max runs in the tunnels he hallucinates some people: the little girl, but also an aboriginal man. However what he says doesn't make sense with what was first imagined ("You let us die !" is what he says). And the 2015 mad max Game clearly ripped off that idea to make the character of Griffa. A mysterious, all wise, hallucinated by Max character, that does something with its hand and influences Max in an important way. Also, great job! I keep enjoying every single one of your videos over and over. Keep on the good work :)
@somegeekyperson4645
@somegeekyperson4645 4 жыл бұрын
Fury Road is supposed to be a final movie, but we're getting another sequel called "The Wasteland" in the next 2020's.....
@brendanpelkey120
@brendanpelkey120 3 жыл бұрын
I believe thats going to be prequeal. Which will hopefully explain why max is crazy at the beginning of fury road, but before that Miller is making a furiosa prequeal. Which i think will be fine but i kind of want a mad max. About max, as he felt like more of a side character in fury road.
@aaronwagner4185
@aaronwagner4185 4 жыл бұрын
I forget if he dies, but the mentality slow big fella in #1 that's related to the shotgun wielding grandma, is he also Blaster from Masterblaster? I always wondered that.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
Nah, that's a different actor. But the actor playing the mentally challenged guy in #1 shows up in #2 as the guy with the beard strapped to the front of Humungus' car! Max Fairchild was his name.
@UnorthodoxJedi
@UnorthodoxJedi 2 жыл бұрын
If another Mad Max movie were to be made, here would be my wishlist: 1. Bring back Mel Gibson as old Max as his final performance 2. Have the production value of Fury Road or even better. 3. Have the composer be Australian metal artist Mick Gordon, who did the excellent soundtrack to the recent DOOM games. And BOOM you have the empire strikes back of the mad max series!
@broston_
@broston_ 4 жыл бұрын
Wow did you make those George Miller crossing the street and plane flight animations? They are really good (just like the rest of your videos)
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
No no no, those are animations from a documentary I found but I animated everything else for what its worth :) My software is really basic, doing the best I can!
@broston_
@broston_ 4 жыл бұрын
Well you're doing great! Hope to see more of your videos in the future
@broston_
@broston_ 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible Hey I was rewatching your videos and I noticed that the "Unused & Repurposed Ideas in Mad Max" video got tagged as made for kids, which means it doesn't have comments and can't be watched in the miniplayer on mobile devices among others. I don't think that's your intention so I think you should check that.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
@@broston_ I didn't notice that, thanks! I'll fix it asap.
@Tychohuybers
@Tychohuybers 4 жыл бұрын
The ancient man really reminded me of Griffa from the 2015 video game, do you think there's maybe a connection there? Or did the game developers just take the ancient man and "rebranded" him? Griffa seems to know a ton about max and his mind, even though Max has never met him, and Griffa "taps into his mind" (or however you'd phrase this) and gives him abilities. And throughout the entire game, Griffa tells Max that he's just running from his past, unable to see the future, or something along those lines.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
They very well might have, yeah. They took a bunch of stuff from Fury Road's early production to make the game, I wouldn't be surprised if Griffa was at least inspired by the Ancient Aboriginal man.
@chancesettlemire4358
@chancesettlemire4358 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible I remember at the beginning of Fury Road when Max is trying to escape the War Boys and he sees hallucinations of the people he couldn't save, one of them is an old Aboriginal man. After watching this video where you described the deleted scene from an earlier script, I wondered if maybe that Aboriginal man was a leftover from a previous draft?
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 3 жыл бұрын
@@chancesettlemire4358 Most likely, yes. He also makes an appearance at the end of the film, he's behind Furiosa on the elevator.
@chancesettlemire4358
@chancesettlemire4358 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible Really? I never noticed that.
@chancesettlemire4358
@chancesettlemire4358 3 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible So I just looked at the scene you mentioned and saw the guy, but I don' think that's the same person. The guy in Max's hallucinations was much older, had greying/white hair, and a slightly longer beard. The guy behind Furiosa also has what looks like dreadlocks or some similar hair style. If you need proof, here are two videos I linked below. FR Ending kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qKdgnbKQq9uykZs.html FR Opening (You can find the guy around 3:25) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pd-Pf6l4qLu8gn0.html
@magnuskallas
@magnuskallas 4 жыл бұрын
You know... Listening to your video essay, I can't help getting vibes about another director, my favourite in fact, talking loads about idea fishing, meditation, etc... Best he can do to hide the fact he does carry certain insecurities and anger his characters carry. Also coming from rather desolated background. You guessed it, D. Lynch. Wild at Heart...
@9r33ks
@9r33ks Жыл бұрын
To be honest, I don't give rat's ass if the story of Fury Road was a rip-off or not. It's the greatest action movie of all times. A perfect Heavy Metal style movie. I really hope the two prequels will be as good as this one.
@Cocubin
@Cocubin 4 жыл бұрын
I forgot if the mad max game was actually the old script they made into a game but coincidentally the movie was going to release and they are not a movie tie up.
@rogerbonds6263
@rogerbonds6263 2 жыл бұрын
ALOT of stuff that was cut or not really given much thought was put in the 2015 mad max game. Maxs car being taken, the abnormal man, Glory, and quite a few other things. The lines the abnormal man says to max in the script was put in the game word for word. I really hope they use aspects of the game in future Mad Max movies such as Max building the Magnum Opus and teaming up with chum bucket. Please go play the game. Its extremely underrated and as a mad max fan myself, I know you will like it.
@mh22xv
@mh22xv 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid and great work! 🙂 So now... how or what’s the deal with “Happy Feet” and how does it fit in with Millers work. From road cops to penguins. Is it maybe the environmental issues theme that is the common denominator. Please do a vid on that! BR /Mack
@Gr1m_Gaz3
@Gr1m_Gaz3 3 жыл бұрын
Happy feet is actually a prequel to the first Mad Max movie.
@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods
@Mnpctech_Giveaway_PC_Mods 4 жыл бұрын
The Ancient Man is George.
@johnhorton9438
@johnhorton9438 4 жыл бұрын
Just saw a YT interview at Cartoonist Kayfabe with Brendan McCarthy, where he goes into how he got involved with Fury Road. He adds more details on his movie pitch to Miller, who then hired him to co-write and design it. McCarthy's a comic book artist who did a comic derived from Road Warrior called Freakwave - his stuff is pretty wild.
@Madmifune
@Madmifune 4 жыл бұрын
Master :)
@moldvox
@moldvox 4 жыл бұрын
Having visions that later have a basis in reality makes perfect sense to those of us that know that kind of thing actually happens. Consciousness is so non-local that sometimes it bends itself all the way around and grabs it's own tail.
@JesusProtects
@JesusProtects Жыл бұрын
Or divine, or unholy inspiration. I think a lot of directors and actors are tapping into a world that they shouldn't go to to draw power from it, and I think what gives them this power is not of God.
@nathanpeachs2704
@nathanpeachs2704 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen most of original motorcycles in the first film, was surprised how dated they looked.
@cdxx7902
@cdxx7902 2 жыл бұрын
Supposedly there’s another film in the making, Mad Max, The Wasteland.
@cbmtrx
@cbmtrx Ай бұрын
As you say, everything is a remix of a remix. Nothing creative is ever made in a vacuum-it's influenced, consciously or subconsciously, by everything that preceded it. I'm not OK with writers not being properly credited/compensated. That said, what Miller & Co DID with the material is not just derivative, it's highly creative. George Lucas wove myth into Star Wars. The Matrix is full of myth and symbolism. Neither of those movies was original; both began as derivatives of other material. But it's what you DO with the stories, ideas, and characters that matters. Fury Road is a heightened retelling of stories that deserves to exist on its own merits. It is already inspiring a new army of creators.
@Camarons
@Camarons 4 жыл бұрын
There is a aboriginal in fury road. In the first chase in the compound where max escapes the warboys he gets a flashback from aboriginal who says "you are going to die"
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
You mean the accusing dead? Yeah he shows up but he says "You let us die" in Max's visions and he also shows up on the elevator at the end of the movie! Fun fact - this guy is some kind of a street performer in Sydney (I believe).
@Camarons
@Camarons 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible oh yeah. just checked. He says "You let us die", you were right. But I dont know that is that same character at the vision in the beginning and in the end at the elevator ? you let us die character seems a lot older?
@cjod33
@cjod33 Ай бұрын
There's over 200 different Australian Aboriginal nations. I can only speak for the mobs I know and my mob. The seven sisters story is told by many different nations in completey different parts of Australia. The classic one is the story of the three sisters in the blue mountains from the Gundungarra people. If you look at the Rock formations (three sisters) you will notice another four smaller Rock pillars just beside the three big ones. In the local story, it's about seven sisters being chased by a kadicha man and the father turns them to stone to protect them. It's just the white fella story that only mentions the three big formations.
@MadMagicianKaros
@MadMagicianKaros 7 ай бұрын
My theory is, George Miller took these other stories and made them better! Seriously though, I enjoy the series as Max is always portrayed as human, he's not some larger than life action hero like Stallone or Schwarzenegger characters.
@guitarmansg499
@guitarmansg499 10 ай бұрын
Crazy that he's such a plagerizer, but one thing for sure is that action on fury road is first class epic!
@Emulous79
@Emulous79 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Miller knew of the Greek Mythology reference. And don't forget the Furies. Also, I know it's a stretch, but somebody may have borrowed an idea from the Dan Malone post-apocalyptic comic of The Sacred Armour of Antiriad (that came with the video game of the same name). A character in one of the prequel comics mentions "sacred armour". A buzzard in the Thunderdome scene, I think.
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 4 жыл бұрын
That's right, McCarthy referenced the Furies alongside of Harpies in very early stages of Fury Road's development. I didn't mention it in a video because it would've been too much but I'll go out on a limb and say that Miller and McCarthy didn't know how to end Fury Road in a fashion that was similar to the Pleiades myth(s). In the Pleiades myth it's almost always the same outcome - the Seven Sisters launch themselves into the sky, in the Greek version of that myth they are turned into doves by Zeus and then into the Pleiades star cluster with Orion forever chasing them. Very similar to the Aboriginal Dreamtime version I mentioned in the video. For Fury Road, originally the plan was for the War Rig with 5 Wives to dive into the clouds which reveals the ocean bed where they would discover trees and start a new place to live. To me that sounds like a real life analog to going UP into the clouds/sky that was in the Pleiades myth.
@Emulous79
@Emulous79 4 жыл бұрын
@@MadMaxBible Fantastic stuff.
@maxe.miller6301
@maxe.miller6301 4 ай бұрын
I hope George leaves roses at Hobans grave But don’t tell him he buried himself with his last unpublished novel, he might dig him up 😆
@josefmen2947
@josefmen2947 4 жыл бұрын
When max tries to escape at the beggining a tribe men appears in the visions, I think... at fury road
@faelreklaw8837
@faelreklaw8837 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe he made the last one this way because if it is a Myth then the company doesn't need continuity. It can be a playground for any script, just another myth with the road warrior. It can be anything cause anything goes
@moseshamlett3887
@moseshamlett3887 2 жыл бұрын
You should break down Stephen King's Dark Tower series.
@thomasbiel7741
@thomasbiel7741 4 жыл бұрын
It's like a Bob Dylan song deeper than intended.
@thefearofg0ds758
@thefearofg0ds758 24 күн бұрын
Once George Miller retires or is unable to continue...Brendan McCarthy most definitely has to continue the legacy and lore.
@johnduncan4387
@johnduncan4387 4 жыл бұрын
Wonderbar
@Canuck1000
@Canuck1000 4 жыл бұрын
BTW, technically, you are discussing hypotheses and not theories. There is a distinction between the two. A theory, you can prove (say mathematically). An hypothesis may or many not become true.
@sanctuary_of_mango
@sanctuary_of_mango 4 жыл бұрын
Would love to see all the storyboarding that’s shown in this video, where can it be found?
@don5anjos
@don5anjos 6 ай бұрын
The problem, I think, is not the "inspirations" that George and the writers had, but that of all of them, Mad Max was the most successful, if it had been a failure like almost all the others, they wouldn't have these issues.
@festo512
@festo512 19 күн бұрын
Fury Road was based on Orlando Furioso and the 1943 Alan Ladd movie China. How did you miss that sir?
@agraciotti
@agraciotti 4 жыл бұрын
wow...I didn't know about this aboriginal man scene and that it was in the storyboard. It makes sense and it would add a fascinating layer to the film, much better than the kid (The kid doesn't bother me though). Never thought Fury Road could get any better but there it is.
@isahighlander4825
@isahighlander4825 2 жыл бұрын
It was replaced with 'one tree' from their dreaming.
@Cocubin
@Cocubin 4 жыл бұрын
The aborinigal man is the guy that levels u up in the mad max ps4 game.
@MarcoKrieger
@MarcoKrieger 4 жыл бұрын
There is only one thing is disagree here and that is the use of the word "Theorie". You have put a theses foreward and you feeded this with bits and parts of researched facts. In order to become a theorie, its time to let other people try to tear down your thoughs and facts. If your building withstand this test, it will become a theorie, which means, it explaines a subject matter to the best of our abilitys and knowlegd. Thats being said, i find your take on Fury Road very much convincing.
@senorsombrero1275
@senorsombrero1275 4 жыл бұрын
Well even if a lot of the ideas were ripped off, they did a damn good job because I’ve never heard about these other movies Edit: besides lawrence of arabia
@jvvayne555
@jvvayne555 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I look at the original script from 2002 online?
@chrisbaratta3841
@chrisbaratta3841 3 жыл бұрын
Could it be that Miller used the name "Walker" in Thunderdome directly taken from Riddley Walker?
@MadMaxBible
@MadMaxBible 3 жыл бұрын
It absolutely was taken from Riddley Walker. There were more names from the book that were in the original script for the film but they removed it.
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