Approximately 1,400 were made; today, only 2,000 exist!
@BCTGuitarPlayer4 жыл бұрын
BELL TUNNEL: don’t you mean 2000 made; 1400 exist?
@beano22664 жыл бұрын
There are fake bursts out there, such as retopped 50’s goldtops and other les pauls.
@BlindTom612 жыл бұрын
@@BCTGuitarPlayer Duh dude...
@JakobSeidl4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think Joe has more than 1400
@littleredguitars24 жыл бұрын
he mentioned on IG recently that he has 13.
@charlesbolton84714 жыл бұрын
60s Addict I sincerely think it’s on Joe’s “Bucket List” to be able to say that he has owned everyone that Gibson made.
@DMSProduktions4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesbolton8471 I bet Hammet won't sell him Greenie! ;oP
@charlesbolton84714 жыл бұрын
DMSProduktions You’re probably right about that, but Joe is 15 years younger so in all likelihood he will out live Kirk. Joe will also have to bring a lot of money to the table when Jimmy Page dies, and then there’s Billy Gibbons to consider.
@DMSProduktions4 жыл бұрын
@@charlesbolton8471 True! He WOULD bid for them for sure! But at least with JB, you know those instruments will get PLAYED!
@innocentoctave4 жыл бұрын
As an explanation of why a 'Burst is so expensive, 'it just is' isn't good enough. The real answer is the same as for any collectible: wealthy potential buyers competing over a small number of desirable status objects. I wonder how many of these instruments are now owned by people who don't even play, but have bought them as investments, or for bragging rights?
@buckodonnghaile43094 жыл бұрын
The question is what will they be worth in 30 years when the next generation of wealthy collectors come along? The 60s and 70s are getting farther away in the rear view mirror and will the next generation care about their grandparents guitar gods or the mystique of their instruments? If they don't I wouldn't blame them. it's hard to feel nostalgic for a time decades before your birth.
@yetanotherbassdude4 жыл бұрын
@@buckodonnghaile4309tell that to any owner of a Stradivarius violin. While I agree that the crazy prices of a lot of vintage gear may not last, there's something that's just too iconic about the original Bursts that sets them apart. I just wish Burst owners could take a leaf out of the Strad owners playbook and start lending out their original instruments to musicians deemed worthy so that they can be heard in public again. There will come a time when all 1,000 or so examples will be in the hands of collectors, and if they just stay in glass cabinets, we're all worse off.
@strat08714 жыл бұрын
Same for old Ferrari's that never go out of the garage..Just speculation, ok, rarity and sought over raises the prices, but now it's really toooo much.
@shaft90004 жыл бұрын
"it just is" = "you suckers aren't supposed to understand economics/markets"
@Wargasm6444 жыл бұрын
I’ve got 1300 of them. Never played one. Just stroke my beard and laugh.
@markmarsh274 жыл бұрын
My Custom Shop '59 Burst Reissue was expensive as hell, but I've amortized it -- the 9000 times I've played it have only cost me a dollar each. .... fair enough
@largecoke40872 жыл бұрын
I bought a 2nd hand one in brand new condition for less than 3900. Which comes to 44ish cents per session (for 9000 sessions). Except if I ever decide to sell it, which I won't, I can sell it for 3900 once again. So it can be free of any costs. In which case it's a profit because I get/gain all the hours of playing for free, and then I sell it for the same price I bought it for.
@NSalonen4 жыл бұрын
Joe Bonamassa owns them all anyway.
@rustyjohnson84314 жыл бұрын
Shots fired haha
@littleredguitars24 жыл бұрын
he recently said on IG that he has 13 at the moment.
@matth28684 жыл бұрын
@@littleredguitars2 59s or just bursts?
@shaft90004 жыл бұрын
All that 'magic' and I'm still trying to think of one great (original) JoeBo song...having trouble. Help me out here, guys.
@matth28684 жыл бұрын
@@shaft9000 he's better with Black Country Communion. So many roads is a pretty cool tune and the one that turned me on to him. I've seen him live and it wasn't anything to write home about. Guy's a monster player but I find his songs less than inspiring. When he's with BCC, he's much more interesting to watch.
@dandyroll7610 Жыл бұрын
I bought my 2004 Les Paul Standard probably very influenced by all those big names that have had that guitar in their hands. My record collection was suspiciously full of photos of that artifact. I have to say that it is a wonderful instrument. I took out the burstbuckers that I had brought and simply put in two 57 classic. It's a perfect sunburst guitar. In looks and sound. He will go with me to the end.
@JIMJAMSC4 жыл бұрын
I was 17 when Van Halen 1 dropped in 78 which was a momentous day in itself. But the really incredible thing was my guitar pal Joey wanted to sell his Gibson his father gave him. It was "nerdy" and old fashion". I ended up buying a Explorer and he got a SG. I later found out that LP was a 58 or 59 and his dad sold it for $1500. He wanted 2 grand but it needed new strings and the case was scratched up.
@darwinsaye Жыл бұрын
That was a realistic and fair price for a 50s Les Paul back then. $250,000 for one today is Not.
@khkartc Жыл бұрын
The real intrigue is how many bursts might still be out there in closets or garages. One would think at least a few more of them are extant, but, like Stradivarius violins, the passage of time renders it increasingly unlikely.
@modestoney15774 жыл бұрын
i love my 900€ Edwards Jimmy Page Les Paul. And i don´t need a safe or bodyguards for it.
@gkol694 жыл бұрын
“Value has a value only if its value is valued.” -Bryan Dyson (Coca Cola CEO, 1986-1991) The value of an item is determined by how much people are willing to pay for it.
@johnhickey21284 жыл бұрын
This is very true and should be kept in mind.
@tonyscreations79044 жыл бұрын
very true , but i think this guitar breaks that rule and by the mid 90;s took flight of it own no matter what it going to go up and up
@gkol694 жыл бұрын
@@tonyscreations7904 The rule means that everything is worth what people are willing to pay for it. If they don't it doesn't worth it and the price goes down.
@johnhickey21284 жыл бұрын
@@gkol69 Yes, in all fairness a beautiful guitar is priceless to someone who really wants it. I personally regret selling quite a few wonderful guitars in the past. Thinking back I really miss them. Thanks so much!
@Nickpaflas4 жыл бұрын
High demand, low supply
@aquilarossa51914 жыл бұрын
More than that. If it was just supply and demand the 58 Burst would fetch the highest price because there is less of them. It doesn't. Commodity fetishism seems to be at play in this one.
@BoozyBeggar4 жыл бұрын
Communists can't into economics.
@Nickpaflas4 жыл бұрын
@@aquilarossa5191 Point well made.
@davedger4 жыл бұрын
I love these videos with Joe. We really need for the Coffee Talk with Joe videos to make a comeback.
@BoozyBeggar4 жыл бұрын
I have a 2004 USA made PRS McCarty, a 2014 Korean SE245, a 2019 Chinese Epiphone Les Paul Plus Top, and a 2016 Jackson Indonesian Soloist. They're all great. Some needed a bit of adjustments here and there, but I really can't tell you that the McCarty objectively sounds better than the others. I do prefer its tone a little over the Epi, but that's just taste in pickups near as I can tell, and I wouldn't change the ProBuckers in the Epi to a set of old McCartys, because then I'd lose the PB tones. There's never been a better time to buy a more affordable guitar than right now, and next year it'll be the same. They'll probably start bringing rosewood back to the lower end fretboards, too, since CITES removed it from endangered.
@shaft90004 жыл бұрын
*pre-Norlin* should be in the title, as Gibson has been making bursts every year since the late '60s.
@shaft90004 жыл бұрын
oh, and NONE of the classic records of the 60s and 70s were made by insisting on 40+ yr old instruments to get the best sound. On the contrary, top players customarily had a luthier build them a new instrument. They disn't say "you luthiers working today are all worthless to me because ancient instruments are always better". The topper is that Gibson may well have been long gone since the late-80s, if it weren't for Slash's popularity. A guy that didn't even use a real Gibson (let alone a burst, lol!) on AFD. It was a mid-;80s copy. The ruse is very real. It's (almost) entirely market speculator/investor fluff. It is fueled by crap like this: "those bursts' wood is SUPER SPECIAL and won't ever return" - meanwhile advances in biotech is making it possible to engineer the structure of wood to grow however they want it to, in any density and figuring, and in a multitude of forms. Sounds weird, but In the near future we will be able to "grow a guitar" or "grow a table" without having to go through the trouble of assembling/cutting/gluing any of the wood.
@jerrymorganjr4 жыл бұрын
They didn't spray the sunburst finish in 68 or 69 on Les Paul's though. The sunburst finishes go way way way back at Gibson though.
@Avalanche13684 жыл бұрын
Gibson didn't start making Les Paul Standards again with the cherry burst finish until the1980's. They did Les Paul Customs in a burst finish in the late 1960's bt inexplicably, they never manufactured what folks really wanted until the 80's and even then they weren't great copies like they do today.. they did gold tops with P90's, LP's with mini humbuckers, but they ignored the standard with a burst finish.....No one can figure out why..
@jackploch5974 жыл бұрын
Make a video on dumbles!
@OspreyEye4 жыл бұрын
I think Reverb should make a similar video about the Pussy Melter distortion pedal from the band Steel Panther. It would be a good way for them to apologize to Glenn Fricker for them being such petty little jerks and pulling out of a fundraiser for dying animals because he was there. I might consider buying off reverb again as well.
@punkmusicmetal4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Jokes about Joe Bonamassa aside, this is a great piece of history. Great for us Gibson nerds. Do more videos like this!
@ViddyWellBrother4 жыл бұрын
Nice video, but what about all of the other fascinating bits of information - i.e, all bursts began as Cherry Sunburst and then faded or darkened (depending on many variables) to create at least 8 different, unintentional but welcome finishes (Honeyburst, Lemonburst, Tobacco, Bourbon, etc), before the red pigment was finally stabilised in 1960. And, what about mentioning why the 'Burst was introduced in the first place (to make them more desirable), and why the model was actually discontinued in 1960 (because sales were still declining). All of these bits of history are part of the incredible story of what has become one of the most coveted, most expensive, and most desirable electric guitars in the world.
@Megarobotsquadron4 жыл бұрын
This is definitely a major part of the magic. We also need to stress the fact that after 1960, they didn't make them until the late 60's. I know he said that, but it needs to be said again
@ViddyWellBrother4 жыл бұрын
@@Megarobotsquadron Yes, they didn't restart production of the Les Paul - the model we all know and love as the Les Paul, not to be confused with the Les Paul/SG - until 1968. But due to changes in design and production methods they were never quite the same. Yet another reason the '58-'60 originals are so sought after.
@Megarobotsquadron4 жыл бұрын
@@ViddyWellBrother when did they start the two piece laminated mahogany bodies? I k ow that many of the 70's bodies were like that
@malcolmhardwick42584 жыл бұрын
And the goldtops that became bursts ☺
@thezosokid4 жыл бұрын
This by far the most interesting math problem I ever encountered.
@Pandamasque4 жыл бұрын
The 250 GTO of guitars.
@gryzew4 жыл бұрын
I think doing a video on them and not mentioning that almost every part of the whole is not possible to reproduce today is crazy. You can't get Brazilian rosewood, they can't get a set of PAFs replicas to pass a blind sound test, even the bridge and tailpiece are made with different metals and sound different when replaced on same guitar. And there's all the potentiometers, capacitors, wood glues, nut nylon, wire alloy etc. etc. The moment a replica is commonly available that looks, sounds and feels as the real deal when compared side by side, the Burst bubble pops.
@TheRnB694 жыл бұрын
Ancient aliens guy 😂😂
@satinwhip4 жыл бұрын
A lot of goldtops were stripped and refinished sunburst.
@emilxert4 жыл бұрын
satinwhip proof?
@ryanboshell61244 жыл бұрын
satinwhip nope.
@iMadrid114 жыл бұрын
Goldtops came in plain maple top. It doesn’t have that 2 figured book matched flame maple top veneer. So stripping a goldtop into a sunburst will not recreate the same paint finish.
@dumbdickler6704 жыл бұрын
@@iMadrid11 doesn't matter, people still did it. Ever hear of a '59 conversion?
@_RLP4 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Would've enjoyed it even more if it were longer, with a little more depth, but still very cool. Do more like these: pre-cbs strats and Teles, dumbles, klons, 80s tubescreamers etc...
@SDPickups4 жыл бұрын
Except the tops were NOT "hand carved." Gibson used a large carving machine that used a physical 3D carving template. They were automatically carved this way, THEN hand sanded and finished.
@gregwilson27213 жыл бұрын
as for value, do the math, everyone that has bought a burst since 1970 and later resold it make a good sized profit. people will still be saying they arent worth the money when these guitars are selling for a million five. and later 5 million. i watched them go from 10k in 1990 for an all original flametop to 350k now 31 years later. someone do the math for me for a value 31 years from now?
@jamesortiz53884 жыл бұрын
Thanks Reverb!
@jerrymorganjr4 жыл бұрын
I'm buying one soon.
@BCTGuitarPlayer4 жыл бұрын
Les Paul told Gibson get my name off of that thing, which of course is the SG.
@michaelr.48787 ай бұрын
Don't tell anyone.. but I have 10 of these. I keep them in my helicopter.
@bldlightpainting3 жыл бұрын
As collectible and generally wonderful pieces of art these musical instruments are, price always comes down to what you are willing to pay for it, and obviously there are people with a much higher figure in their bank account then their IQ score, so yeah, they will pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for a guitar that only originally sold for a few hundred or so.
@glenkepic32084 жыл бұрын
Crazy to think Joe Walsh gave (sold ?) a burst to Jimmy Page.
@BlueberryStinkFinger624 жыл бұрын
And dont forget the shitty quality and weak headstocks and constant repairs that's a Gibson
@jayyy10414 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if there are any differences at all between a tobacco burst and a sunburst other than cosmetics?
@louiscox85334 жыл бұрын
The video I’ve been waiting for
@jltrem3 жыл бұрын
You didn't say there was going to be math.
@aarondavis43414 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the SG the Gibson version of the strat?
@joshofofw9454 жыл бұрын
Many legendary guitar player used these but those are shaved neck to make it thin .
@oak19314 жыл бұрын
40 seconds of children maths was unnecessary to explain
@jlat420 Жыл бұрын
I have a Gibson 400c burst looking to sell
@HumbertoNalves4 жыл бұрын
Great
@TheTubeDude4 жыл бұрын
It's all hype. But that's ok.
@DBCisco4 жыл бұрын
Gibson only made 'burst' LPs between 1958 and 1960 ? WTF ?
@dansands63634 жыл бұрын
The original ones. These are what the video is all about. After that, the Les Paul in a sunburst finish didn't come back until 1968. And these guitars are nowhere near the same as an original 58-60 burst.
@DBCisco4 жыл бұрын
@@dansands6363 Define "Original" is that like "Play Authentic" ? The "Original Les Paul"was invented by Appleton in the 40s and Gibson stole it.
@davidburke21324 жыл бұрын
DB Cisco I see someone has been reading fairy stories again. 😜 Interesting take on the Les Paul origins though... most people who have a conspiracy theory think that Les Paul developed it all himself or that it was made by Epiphone. Nice to see that someone has picked up on a single cutaway guitar which was conceived before the Gibson Les Paul and whist it is clearly different in shape and construction to the Gibson Les Paul you’ve put two and two together and got approximately a million. The honest truth is that Gibson didn’t believe in the concept of a solid body electric guitar and it’s why they laughed both Appleton and Les Paul out of the room when they brought their ideas to them. However, when Fender started having success with the Esquire and Telecaster Gibson realised it wasn’t such a stupid idea after all, realised they needed to compete and developed their own solid body, consulting to some extent (to exactly what extent depends on whose story you believe) with Les Paul himself.
@tonyscreations79044 жыл бұрын
@@davidburke2132 les paul should be credited with the 335 not the paul , the log was a semi hollow the solid body was a dog bone given to les paul
@davidburke21324 жыл бұрын
tonys creations To some extent I agree, but to give Les Paul credit for the genius design that is the ES-335 would constitute a big show of disrespect to Ted McCarty who, I my view, was the true genius of Gibson in this era and widely credited with the design of the ES-335 along with overseeing the introduction of guitars like the Les Paul, Flying V, Explorer, SG, etc.
@andrescolasanti4 жыл бұрын
is this Les Paul a "real burst"?
@thebreakfastmenu4 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a video on the Appleton APP guitar. The first true inventor of the Les Paul that Gibson stole the idea from. He was local and it frustrates me that so few people know about him even where I live.
@fostexfan1604 жыл бұрын
The next thing to be faked in this category must surely be the lost daybooks from the Gibson factory?
@ICACJ4 жыл бұрын
kwik maffs.
@harshlands4 жыл бұрын
You gonna do any of the newer hitman content, man? NYC or the Maldeves one thats comin' out..
@TheRichie2133 жыл бұрын
None of them are worth the money they sell for.
@theincrediblebulk19714 жыл бұрын
1722
@Dad-Gad4 жыл бұрын
Mahogany body , mahogany neck , long tenon , 8k alnico 2 pickups , 50s wiring , Sperzel locking tuners , Gotoh bridge , Faber tailpiece . $$$$$$$$ .... ? No it's a modded Harley Benton that can eat most Gibson's for breakfast . Total cost £250 . Do it yourself and build from the body up 👍
@LfunkeyA4 жыл бұрын
dunno, still prefer a good deal on a reissue
@stevejohnston2715 Жыл бұрын
That's funny, a Gen Z guitar player trying to explain math...don't hurt yourself.
@pjkpjk47094 жыл бұрын
Hey Man, don't know if you were aware but there was a ghost that looked exactly like you behind you writing what you said on the white board. Pretty freaky stuff...
@racso1214 жыл бұрын
The sausage is in your hands my friend! just find a decent equipment :)
@toomanywaystofall4 жыл бұрын
The guitar is what it is - not too many produced - supply and demand - who plays or played them resulting in popularity of said band - the aesthetic value (beauty in the eyes of the beholder) - price gouging? - precedence setting by who paid what especially those owners with celebrity status - it goes on and on - bottom line it's a popular model of guitar from a company that has been in the guitar making business a long time - as far as who plays them? the joe blow amassa's out there are just people too, big deal - they can make a shoe stink like anyone else. What about it Gibson - a round of bursts for everyone!
@kimseniorb4 жыл бұрын
Who gives a crap
@prsplayer2104 жыл бұрын
they cost so much not because of how good they re, but the snake oil rubes have bought into
@shaft90004 жыл бұрын
oh, oh, oh...but...but..."the wood they were made from was ****super-special**** and no trees can ever sound as good as those trees did ever agaaaaaaain"
@KilaKrumpira4 жыл бұрын
I find the host repulsive. I just do.
@JammyGit4 жыл бұрын
Even though I love guitars, I wouldn't buy a burst even if I had the money. If I did theoretically have about half a million quid I COULD buy myself a very nice home indeed and still have enough money left over to buy myself a top quality guitar that would play better than any Gibson Les Paul, burst or not. I already own a Gibson Les Paul anyway, so with half a million to my name and the fact that I live a fairly modest lifestyle, I reckon I could live on half a million for the rest of my life and never want for anything. So at the end of the day, if I did have half a million and I weighed up my options....burst or house or a lifetime of security.....then for me, only a fool or a multi millionaire would pay that much for a burst. Besides, my dream guitar is a Gretsch Penguin anyway, in Cadillac Green, and with the gold hardware. I'd take one of those over any modern production guitar. 👍
@freq99394 жыл бұрын
Yeah but they're boring and expensive. I respect anyone who played them amazingly and had amazing tone but it's been done. Find something else that's inspiring