How many swordsmen need to fight a Spearman?

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Weaponism

Weaponism

2 жыл бұрын

#kendo #剣道 #Spear

Пікірлер: 5 500
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@weaponism Жыл бұрын
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@callumbiasnow4825
@callumbiasnow4825 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has played the classic “Dynasty Warriors” games will already know it takes approximately 500 swordsmen to defeat one spear.
@gj1234567899999
@gj1234567899999 2 жыл бұрын
“Ride into the middle of an enemy formation, and swing the spear like a whirlwind over your head until 500 enemy are killed” Sun Tzu, The Art of War
@mindbreak666
@mindbreak666 2 жыл бұрын
Unless you picked honda/lu bu... Then the number of swordsman required is literally beyond what the world can throw at you.
@General_Klytus
@General_Klytus 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@General_Klytus
@General_Klytus 2 жыл бұрын
@@mindbreak666 💯
@absoluteManiac
@absoluteManiac 2 жыл бұрын
"IT'S LU BU!!!"
@KVCunknown
@KVCunknown Жыл бұрын
What I learned from this is that all the video games where a group of enemies attack you one at a time is actually totally realistic.
@chaosgyro
@chaosgyro Жыл бұрын
Even in real life, no one wants to play the tank.
@mitchmac3383
@mitchmac3383 Жыл бұрын
I wonder why they didn't try to 360 surround him, triangle formation style. I'd guess 1 of the 3 swordsmen would eventually be able to find a gap and "kill" the spearman from behind 🤷‍♂️ interesting content for sure, though
@brammetje290
@brammetje290 Жыл бұрын
@@mitchmac3383 This is why the spearman is constantly moving, especialy at the start, he is preventing them from getting around him. If you look closely as the direction he moves you can probably pick it up.
@arbre_mystique
@arbre_mystique Жыл бұрын
@@mitchmac3383 he isn’t giving them a chance to surround him
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI Жыл бұрын
@@mitchmac3383 A: like others said, he's deliberately avoiding that by moving B: you actually don't necessarily want to rush in at the same time, because in real life the "friendly fire" setting is always on.
@ShadowOfCicero
@ShadowOfCicero Жыл бұрын
A Japanese nobleman once hosted a match between Musashi and a spear master. The spear master attacked three times, and Musashi deflected three times. They then stopped. When the nobleman asked why they stopped, the spear master replied, "If my spear can't get past his sword in three attempts, he's the better fighter."
@MrJinglejanglejingle
@MrJinglejanglejingle Жыл бұрын
Sounds like the spear master was bored, as he knew the fight too well and didn't want to harm somebody.
@semi-automatickevin8167
@semi-automatickevin8167 Жыл бұрын
@@MrJinglejanglejingle nah its cause spears are widely considered to be the ultimate melee weapon, compared to swords and such. the spear master knew that if he couldnt hit musashi in those three hits, musashi was the better fighter because of how deadly and precise spears are
@twentyonetortas5921
@twentyonetortas5921 Жыл бұрын
@@semi-automatickevin8167 wait I’m confused with your comment. how are you saying the Musashi is a better fighter if you’re saying spears are the more precise and deadly weapon?
@twentyonetortas5921
@twentyonetortas5921 Жыл бұрын
What’s a Musashi? Is it that badass samurai?
@MrJinglejanglejingle
@MrJinglejanglejingle Жыл бұрын
@@twentyonetortas5921 I think its some form of raw fish?
@snowwhite7677
@snowwhite7677 5 ай бұрын
This would be better if you had an old man sitting on a throne, stroking his beard in the background.
@AdamBechtol
@AdamBechtol 5 ай бұрын
:p
@mephestopholes
@mephestopholes 5 ай бұрын
IDK why but this might be the funniest thing I've seen in a year. Kill Bill 2 came to mind.
@michaelbarnard8529
@michaelbarnard8529 14 күн бұрын
The laughing girl behind the camera is good enough.
@richardschafer7858
@richardschafer7858 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting exercise. The spear is called the King of Weapons for a reason. Still, the relative skill of the combatants, fatigue and sheer numbers will always play key variables.
@BeachBoi1000
@BeachBoi1000 2 жыл бұрын
In a confined space, I don’t think so
@silviuflorin744
@silviuflorin744 2 жыл бұрын
These dudes bad tho
@richardschafer7858
@richardschafer7858 2 жыл бұрын
@@BeachBoi1000 True, it's why God made knives and short swords.
@BeachBoi1000
@BeachBoi1000 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardschafer7858 I thought the blacksmith made them
@kingkazuma2239
@kingkazuma2239 2 жыл бұрын
@@richardschafer7858 it's why man made guns
@KARATEbyJesse
@KARATEbyJesse 2 жыл бұрын
I had no idea spearmanship required such cardio!! 🤣🏃🏻‍♂️💨
@leonlazlus9589
@leonlazlus9589 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jesse 👋
@tondowidodo9669
@tondowidodo9669 2 жыл бұрын
this is a 3 vs 1 battle so the spearmen must avoid being surrounded and must keep their distance
@Kenshin_Tran
@Kenshin_Tran 2 жыл бұрын
id imagine 1v 2< requires some strategy of movement regardless what weapon you hold
@terkelalgevind529
@terkelalgevind529 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kenshin_Tran Halberd go brrrrr like barbarian if i lived then i would be spinning through legions of romans like butter, (eating vegan and doing crossfit) kek
@TeoSarp
@TeoSarp 2 жыл бұрын
lol are you serious? ancient warfare is crazy, most of the "warriors" were strong and lasting, most of them were like christiano ronaldo, we got fatty and lazy with technology and industrialization.
@joshsanders5263
@joshsanders5263 Жыл бұрын
I read once a story about a famous spear master that was accused of having an affair with one of the wifes of a great empire's minister and found guilty by the emperor. The sentence for such a crime was prison for life. The emperor, knowing the reputation of the accused as the best master of the spear in the entire empire, decided to give him a chance: If he managed to defeat a platoon of 50 swordsmen soldiers alone in an arena, his crime would be forgiven. The spear master accepted the challenge. And in front of the audience of the arena, the fight left everyone perplexed, because even surrounded by the swordsmen, the master was doing very well and had already killed 20 of the 50 soldiers! But he was momentarily distracted and took hit in the belly. Even though he was bleeding, he kept fighting and still managed to kill 15 more soldiers before collapsing and being killed by the rest. The emperor couldn't understand why he made such an amateurish mistake when he was dominating the fight. Then the emperor looked at the direction the master was looking when he got distracted and saw the reason. The minister had slit his wife's throat, the same woman the spear master was having an affair with. That was the reason for the distraction. The emperor was extremely strict, but he was also fair. He then ordered his soldiers to take the minister and throw him into the arena, giving him the order to take the late master's spear and finish the fight in his place, as punishment for interfering in his punishment. The minister, crying and begging for forgiveness, took the spear and, despite being a competent swordsman, he was unable to handle the spear, which was customized and heavier than normal spears, and was quickly killed by one of the remaining soldiers.
@iorifori91
@iorifori91 Жыл бұрын
That's me the last soldier
@jacobharris954
@jacobharris954 Жыл бұрын
Can you give a reference to time and place of the incident. That was fascinating story of will and skill
@st.zahren5683
@st.zahren5683 Жыл бұрын
the name of the master spearman? playboi carti
@blazzinga595
@blazzinga595 Жыл бұрын
Fair ? WTF he sent 50 men to a death arena for his amusement. He would let the man who betrays his fellow citizen trust to go unharmed should he won . He sent the man whose honour was tainted to a certain death after he caught his wife cheating. And couldn't care less about the woman who started in the first place. That's some tyrant type of misconduct. I doubt it to be a true story but regardless the claim of a fair emperor is absurd.
@Jeff_189
@Jeff_189 Жыл бұрын
@@st.zahren5683 average braindead carti fan
@leyrua
@leyrua Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is that I haven't seen spears implemented well in any medieval fighting game. It's always just the poke poke move, and maybe a sweeping one, which apparently vastly undersells the weapon's potential.
@Coco044
@Coco044 Жыл бұрын
In new world u can throw it and use it as a vaulting pole lol.
@gamuhnerdu4759
@gamuhnerdu4759 Жыл бұрын
Not unrealistic like 90% of a spear's use is limited to thrusts
@mromero675
@mromero675 Жыл бұрын
Mount & Blade II, Bannerlord has the spears and polearms along with excellent game physics, and yes, you can use a lance on horseback.
@cinderfall1396
@cinderfall1396 Жыл бұрын
Look at God of War Ragnorok
@blackearl7891
@blackearl7891 Жыл бұрын
Nioh
@joejoelesh1197
@joejoelesh1197 2 жыл бұрын
Love the blood effect. Often when watching sparing video it is hard to see when and if a hit occurred. You have to rely on the combatants obviously calling their hits. Even if they are calling them making it clear to the opponent it is often unclear to outside viewer
@KjamLXX8
@KjamLXX8 2 жыл бұрын
One method is chalking the weapons, that way when someone is hit there is chalk left on their outfit to show where the hit occured.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 жыл бұрын
@@KjamLXX8 But then you have to clean it after each round, no? Akin to paintball. At one point you'll be covered in paint.
@JonatasAdoM
@JonatasAdoM 2 жыл бұрын
It is akin to the videos that add hitmarks in Airsoft or the kill score you get in games.
@KjamLXX8
@KjamLXX8 2 жыл бұрын
@@JonatasAdoM Yes and No. If it has to be cleaned then it has to be cleaned and a damp cloth and quick wipe down is all it would take.
@Lightning_Lance
@Lightning_Lance 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe in the future you can fight people's holograms and actually use lethal force. That'd be cool.
@bariumselenided5152
@bariumselenided5152 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls and other games really don’t do justice to spears, I think. I’ve always thought of spears as just really weak weapons, only good for poking at people from behind a shield. But this dude gets in the mix, I’m really impressed. I also wish I could these sorts of things, they look so fun
@sletso1
@sletso1 2 жыл бұрын
Its because maybe you thought poking was a weak attack. I dont know im just a gamer who prefer spears
@smexijebus
@smexijebus 2 жыл бұрын
Dark Souls needs all the weapons to have weaknesses and trade-offs so as to make all them worth playing and trying out. The game would be awful if you could poke bosses once or twice and kill them, as happens to humans. They're trying to do justice to the gameplay, not realistic weapon lethality. I mean most shooters have regenerating health and people are bullet sponges.
@ThePhilosogamer
@ThePhilosogamer 2 жыл бұрын
@@smexijebus That might be what FromSoft though, but that's not actually how it worked out in practice (some weapon types in that series are objectively better than others), nor was it a goal worth pursuing in principle either. Nioh's existence is proof that you can balance weapons against one another without resorting to arbitrary numerical tradeoffs to justify their usage. And for those wondering, spears in that game are used more similarly to what you see in this video - swift and versatile - not, "really long rapiers" as they're often shown in games.
@smexijebus
@smexijebus 2 жыл бұрын
@@ThePhilosogamer Nioh has no competitive multiplayer, the need for balancing is much much less restrictive. When all your players do is PvE, it doesn't matter how overpowered things are (to a certain extent) but when there's lots of PvP involved it becomes far more necessary to balance those out, less everyone use only that and all variety and fun (and thus playerbase) disappear as well. P.S. Two-handing spears in any FromSoft game changes the moveset and makes the spear much more versatile than 'a long rapier'. But if you use a shield you, well, use the shield. Like one would in real life, as well.
@allmightygir4865
@allmightygir4865 2 жыл бұрын
The Nioh series does spear pretty well. You couldn't really see it from this demonstration but realistically if you had minimal training and had to fight in a war during the time of sword and shield a spear would have been your best option. It gives you range and as you did see in the video, options.
@tonglu3699
@tonglu3699 Жыл бұрын
This video is a wonderful demonstration why half of human warfare throughout history was about trying to drive your enemy away with a pointy stick, and the other half was about tossing said stick into your enemy's face.
@captainnyet9855
@captainnyet9855 Жыл бұрын
yeah, and that's only because we set the time limit to "history"
@tonglu3699
@tonglu3699 Жыл бұрын
@@captainnyet9855 We are watching a video of three swordsmen vs a spearman. What’s your point?
@Toutong_
@Toutong_ 8 ай бұрын
@@captainnyet9855 Pointy stick was one of the first weapon ever invented. It evolved into the spear and kept its best weapon status until good firearms were available.
@el_famoso_albatar
@el_famoso_albatar 7 ай бұрын
@@Toutong_ *bow enters the chat*
@user-ng4xe5rf8n
@user-ng4xe5rf8n 4 ай бұрын
@@el_famoso_albatar Ah, the ones that launch tiny spears balanced with feathers
@mymartianhome
@mymartianhome Жыл бұрын
It reminds me of my kendo days. We used to fight one against two or three to learn tactics and awareness. The singleton needs to use mobility so that they only face one opponent at a time. The group need to be able to launch simultaneous assaults from different directions.
@MavrikUSMC
@MavrikUSMC 2 жыл бұрын
"2 swordsman and a sith lord vs a spearman" Would be a more accurate title. 🤣
@kellenknipp955
@kellenknipp955 2 жыл бұрын
Legendary
@THEINTERNETANOMALY
@THEINTERNETANOMALY 2 жыл бұрын
Underrated comment this is 💯💯
@dfcrest1418
@dfcrest1418 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@MaxUgly
@MaxUgly 2 жыл бұрын
Yea, this is so fake. Lightsaber would disintegrate the spear on contact, everyone knows that...
@alwari527
@alwari527 2 жыл бұрын
@@MaxUgly It's Beskar 🤣
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 Жыл бұрын
There's a reason why throughout history the spear was the standard weapon for the foot soldier. Especially the lesser trained ones. It takes multiple skilled swordsmen to kill one semi trained person with a spear
@user-it3xy2cw1t
@user-it3xy2cw1t Жыл бұрын
It's mostly depends who's the person behind the weapon and conditions A good swordsman or spearman would know to not show of opening
@seasnow6073
@seasnow6073 Жыл бұрын
@@user-it3xy2cw1t said like a true weirdo. Spear is always a main weapon throughout history of classic warfare. It gives good reach for footman or cavalry, while swords is not. Its real life and not some fantasy when u can cut anything with a sword under 1 sec
@tarettime9392
@tarettime9392 Жыл бұрын
@@user-it3xy2cw1t I disagree somewhat while yes who's wielding what is important the reality is someone with minimal training with a spear will more often than not beat someone with a few years of training with a sword and someone with years of training with a spear will more often than not beat an expert with a sword
@user-it3xy2cw1t
@user-it3xy2cw1t Жыл бұрын
@@seasnow6073 never said sword where main weapons of units, just said it's depends who's better and what are the conditions
@seasnow6073
@seasnow6073 Жыл бұрын
@@user-it3xy2cw1t dude, what u saying is subjective and not objective arguments. The one that attack first will have the upper hand
@joa8593
@joa8593 Жыл бұрын
Each year, there's a demo match of naginata vs kendo that's fun to watch. The katana was never really used like this for a reason. Initially, it was a side arm for archers (archers vs. spearman would be a fun video LOL). Longer swords were used mainly by and to take down mounted cavalry. It became the main sword in the Edo period because of the limitation on sword lengths, by which time guns were already an established part of Japanese warfare. In other words, this was the length that the government figured was too short to be useful.
@Hideyoshi1991
@Hideyoshi1991 Жыл бұрын
the katana was a side-arm and became a very formalized status symbol for the samurai(like sabres for officers in Europe until ww1) has nothing to do with the blade length being useless.
@switters8679
@switters8679 Жыл бұрын
@@Hideyoshi1991 Read up on some history. Why was it chosen as a status symbol. What cultural impacts did the various wars have on the culture, and what laws were passed (hint hint hint hint hint) because of them. You sound like someone who really likes katanas and don't want them to be portrayed a way you feel is demeaning. Well, that is not a very intelligent way to look at it, and you are seemingly on the internet where all of this information is readily available. I feel embarrassed for you.
@Hideyoshi1991
@Hideyoshi1991 Жыл бұрын
@@switters8679 m8, a katana is just an average sword. It became a status symbol because it clearly showed the rank of the one wearing it. Something which was very important in the rigid class system of the Edo period.
@quiknik22488
@quiknik22488 Жыл бұрын
@@switters8679lol god damn 0 chill
@JoscelinVerreuil
@JoscelinVerreuil 4 ай бұрын
@@switters8679 Buuuurnnnn!
@johnathant6735
@johnathant6735 6 ай бұрын
It was very skillful how the spearman continued to shuffle and flank the group. Kept them all in a single line so he could not be surrounded.
@granatmof
@granatmof Жыл бұрын
Reminds me of when I used to LARP. A single spear or other pole arm is quite powerful. People mock the "attack all at once" oversight in action sequences, but when the group doesn't have experience working together against one target and the target has experience about controlling the flow dynamics if the group, the single person can manipulate positioning in the battlefield to minimize simultaneous attacks, especially through flanking and charging lone people in such a way that causes the group to get in each other's way.
@nilskahle5863
@nilskahle5863 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, I have seen LARP Veterans demolish groups of 7-8 people when they were surrounded. And they did not use a spear.
@sepg5084
@sepg5084 Жыл бұрын
Only effective if there is enough space like this gym where the spearman can run around. On a crowded battlefield or inside a building, a spear is less wieldy. Plus, the swordsmen in this video do not have a shield.
@dabinhaler1337
@dabinhaler1337 Жыл бұрын
yeah that white t shirt guy let the swordsmen down, guy never played a bit of dark souls pvp or wat
@thanorodd5663
@thanorodd5663 Жыл бұрын
Not only in LARP, but in the real world, nobody wants to die. Attacking all together may neutralize the enemy, but at what cost? It's easy to see a movie or video game and think, "if they had just attacked together, they could have killed the guy!" from the perspective of a fictional drama where 'they' are just fodder for the cause. A real person thinks, "What if I go down with him?" and waits for a safe opening.
@Taurgis2
@Taurgis2 Жыл бұрын
i do some SCA heavy armor fighting. and yeah. group tactics are important, but are hard to develop well. its why formation fighting is really popular. because its hard to communicate over the shouting and yelling. ive been both on the receiving end and offensive when fighting numbers. and the best advice i can usually give is to just force the enemy to work against themselves. and always appear crazier than your opposition.
@ryanhampson673
@ryanhampson673 Жыл бұрын
Spears have been used longer than swords. They obviously give greater reach to a soldier but also they are cheaper to produce…It takes a lot of metal to make one sword, but the only metal on a spear is the spear head so you could make a few spearheads for the same amount of metal as one sword, and wood is usually always plentiful.
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Жыл бұрын
It's also easier to train somebody to be "basically competent" with a spear than it is to train them to the same level with a sword. If it takes _a really good_ swordsman to beat three average dudes with spears - and you could arm and train SIX competent spearmen for the same cost as one really good swordsman - then average dudes with spears are just the logical choice.
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 Жыл бұрын
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Except that's not how it works on larger scale... you can also arm swordsmen with a thing called shield. And it's fucking effective against arrow, that are far bigger problem than the puny guy in front of you with a pointy stick... which you can also protect from with that shield. Spears were the logical choice for cheap badly trained armies of peasants that don't matter if they die. Still effective weapon if they don't get fucked over by something... like arrows. If you can't afford a sword and shield, you can't afford proper armor either. Even if it wasn't for arrows, swords > spears at close range. Spears are great as long as you manage to keep your enemies at distance, but once they get close? You're fucked. With many soldiers to spare, getting close isn't "if", but when. Even Romans that invented deadly spear formations abandoned them in favor of sword and shield (and javelin, AKA small spear with better range).
@mweskamppp
@mweskamppp Жыл бұрын
@@spugelo359 The romans were an exception. Most antique armies preferred spears. Especially Alexanders greek. Swords were often for self defense or a backup weapon. Especially in medieval times. Sometimes bow and arrow were more important in other times they had an inferior role.
@bluemobster0023
@bluemobster0023 Жыл бұрын
@@spugelo359 well here's the thing smart guy. The Roman's used spears as they advanced to break through sheilds and then they would change to the Gladius. But they also carried multiple spears since it really is an amazing weapon
@spugelo359
@spugelo359 Жыл бұрын
@@bluemobster0023 Good job... you almost got it right. What they carried around was basically a javelin, a spear for throwing. Not for poking. You poke once and it breaks, not very good for poking weapon, now is it? Enemies did use proper 2 handed spears, meant for poking. But Romans already figured out how to defeat spears. Throw javelins, charge in with shields protecting from spears... and stay close so those spears become ineffective. And stab them with gladius... no much room for slashing in tight formations. Even when they preferred a weapon for poking, they went with the sword. Because it's short enough for close combat.
@Boywellesley13
@Boywellesley13 9 ай бұрын
I'm a viking age re-enactor and have done both sides of 1 spearman(with and without shield) vs 2 sword/axe and shield. Shields make a huge difference as it makes it much easier to deflect the spear and get past the point. A spearman with a shield is also very different as although they have less control of the spear with only one hand they can now block and attack at the same time. In all my experiences having shields involved puts the spearman at quite a disadvantage, It is quite easy to deflect/trap/parry the spear when you have a shield and a weapon making it impossible for the spearman to keep the tip on target, you then just close in a quick and close as possible. Any other 2 handed weapon is the worst is against spears, dual wielding is better, Shield and weapon is best.
@sharp7j
@sharp7j 9 ай бұрын
Shields are the most OP weapon based on my LARP exp. Put a spike on a shield and I would pick it over any other single weapon in a duel to the death hands down.
@umbraviventem
@umbraviventem 9 ай бұрын
shield is the ultimate enemy of the spear. It essentially removes all of the non-thrusting utility (99% of the spears utility) a spear has and turns it into a deflectable weight. Part of what makes the spear hard to master is mastering how the weight is distributed as you manipulate the weapon and your opponent. If your opponent can take a precise movement (like a thrust with a swipe to knock you out) and just deflect and push that spear away, it will throw the spearman off balance.
@qoki2244
@qoki2244 6 ай бұрын
Cant you just easily go for the legs
@Erebus2075
@Erebus2075 6 ай бұрын
@@sharp7j bc you all are playing pretend and make belief. if you hardkick a shield you easily fk up the arm behind it and stagger the user and you are quite safe from retaliation; same if you grab and fall rotated you break the arm, easily. there is also a ton off technics especially with axes to make a shield a handicap for the user more than an asset. shields are amazing, but they depend a lot on multiple people are fighting together or fighting people who are either unwilling or unknowing about how to counter it. a LOT off weapons you need to sacrifice something to win, as obv you are killing vs losing a hand example. besides neither the sword users nor the spear user here got any clue what they are doing, they look like random schoolkids having fun with sticks ...
@jessenelson8106
@jessenelson8106 6 ай бұрын
Shield is the ultimate weapon, developed to beat the stick, but ultimately struggles against missiles. Still used for riot suppression today.
@Hexra_
@Hexra_ Жыл бұрын
In every single imperial Chinese, Korean or Japanese drama that took place in wartime era, I've always loved their spearmen tactics. Their style was a lot less crude than the gladiatorial spear techniques which I hate. Woldo, Guandao and Naginata all look absolutely beautiful and their combat style even more. This showcase is really great to see the polearm being used so effectively
@umbraviventem
@umbraviventem 9 ай бұрын
The reason why the Asian spear tactics look better than the western is because the people who are doing the research for those tactics and looking for people to be trained actually want it done right. Where as in western media they just want it to look flashy. Not understanding that with the spear specifically the effective use of one is WAY more flashy and entertaining than the bullshit they make actors do. Western media also heavily leans into the "poke people with this weapon" aspect of a spear and ignore the fact that the weapon can also slash and bludgeon people. A perfect example of this was in The Last Samurai when Tom Cruise is told by the samurai that the spear is not just for thrusting, and he is shown how to disarm and knock someone down in a single elegant move. Outside of a documentary that is one of the few times I have seen a spear used properly in western media.
@MagMar-kv9ne
@MagMar-kv9ne 6 ай бұрын
Yeah but i hate how the chinese use the Spear, always holding it in the middle and using it more like an axe or sword. They do not use the distance of the spear at all.
@Hexra_
@Hexra_ 6 ай бұрын
@@MagMar-kv9ne yeah its less effective in swordfights since some of them use one handed spear techniques unlike Pikes and Halberds that aren't meant to be since they're very long, not really the point of what makes it a spear. But man, the Chinese use those short metal spears (Qiangs) and they look absolutely cool to me, especially the way some of them have their poles designed like a dragon
@rfv1903
@rfv1903 2 жыл бұрын
Wow , this dude is bad ass! Exceptional skill with the spear. And tactics on point versus multiple opponents.
@Byrenious
@Byrenious 2 жыл бұрын
All of their tactics were trash.
@AlphaQHard
@AlphaQHard 2 жыл бұрын
@@Byrenious Ok master jason 🤡
@Byrenious
@Byrenious 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaQHard doesn't take a master to realize that dragging your blade on the ground isn't the best idea
@allenzero1
@allenzero1 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah fancy spins an dragging blades... Treating it like a game not giving a crap about afterblows an otherwise taking the sort of swings that get you hit like you don't care about your life... The problem with foam an lack of bruises is carelessness an fighting like a clown.
@step670
@step670 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure result will change in favor of multiple swordsmen after some practice. For now they look very confused, like it is their first time in this format. Teamwork and communication are bad. Spearman looks very confident, he definitely tried it before.
@qudavid1128
@qudavid1128 2 жыл бұрын
His movement and control with that spear is just beautiful to watch. Love this
@CastIronGinger
@CastIronGinger Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed this and the blood effects made it easier to see, thank you! I’ve always loved the spear
@zes3813
@zes3813 4 ай бұрын
wrgg
@esrohm6460
@esrohm6460 Жыл бұрын
the wild thing is with this is that thanks to the spear caparison you don't realize that a shinai is stupendously long. if you hold one and swing it around your range is massive but they look so tiny here
@ThatSomGuy
@ThatSomGuy 2 жыл бұрын
"Spears are the weapon for war. Swords are weapons to take a prisoner." -Miyamoto Musashi
@digimeth1216
@digimeth1216 2 жыл бұрын
"Naked man hiding in pantry, has ass in jam" - Lo Wang
@prefix253
@prefix253 2 жыл бұрын
"Lessgooo" - DaBaby
@alienlodejavu9504
@alienlodejavu9504 2 жыл бұрын
'we only need a French fries to kill our enemies' Bollywood director
@deeznutsenjoyer1967
@deeznutsenjoyer1967 2 жыл бұрын
@@alienlodejavu9504 "i enjoy deez nuts"- me
@nathanbruce1992
@nathanbruce1992 2 жыл бұрын
Musashi says swords are the weapons of the warrior in the Book of Five rings. He said theres a reason you call spearman spearman, archer an archer, while you call a swordsman a warrior He also said you should learn all of them. Idk where you are getting that quote from man, but definitely not his personal writings..
@ericjohnson4877
@ericjohnson4877 2 жыл бұрын
I've geeked out and studied the geometry of 2vs1 and 3vs1 engagements. The idea in any case when you have the numerical advantage is to try to attack from widely different angles of approach. This puts the most stress on the defender's ability to ward off attacks. The objective is to try to create an angle of approach from the two attackers that is such that the defender can't really see and address both/all the angles at the same time. Eventually the hope is one of them can close in from a flank or from behind and strike a serious blow. The interesting thing is that if you consider everyone's mobility to be roughly equal, in a 2vs1 scenario, the two attackers can never really force the engagement from two widely different angles because the defender can retreat when the attackers are close, circle out to counter their efforts to come around on a flank, and if they both move to opposite flanks, he can quickly cross the line between them (given that there's enough distance between them and he moves quickly) and he can escape to make them have to form up and try again to engage him. It really takes a third attacker and a 3vs1 situation for the attackers to be able neutralize the defender's evasive maneuvering. The interesting thing in the video clip shown here is that with the three attackers, they don't really utilize their advantage at all by encircling the defender. They instead seem to stay grouped fairly close together in a line, which puts the least stress on the defender's ability to defend himself, because everything remains for the most part in front of him, within his peripheral vision. If you were to instead combine the efforts of two attackers to create two different angles of attack with a third attacker that is positioned behind the defender, blocking an uncontested avenue of retreat and limiting evasive movements in general, I think the spearman would be overwhelmed by the three separate angles of approach. The spear can be pretty effective transitioning from a forward facing exchange to a rearward facing exchange because either end of the weapon can strike a serious blow. Where the attackers can leverage an advantage is that they are able to threaten from three angles, meaning whichever two approaches the spearman has covered with the two tips of his spear, the third should be able to probe the spearman's defensive guard and force him to pivot, change guards, parry, anything that can open a new angle of attack for one of the other attackers. Anyways, I think this type of drill is great for developing skills, both for the attacking side that has the numbers advantage and for the defender. You have to move tactically and intelligently, but each of those movements can be isolated, identified, and practiced. Plus, the coordination of two or more attackers working together is a great drill for developing tactical awareness.
@shinyori
@shinyori 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what to say about that. One of the swordsman might "sacrifice" himself to immobilize the spear and it's game over for the sperman. Plus people don't jist drop dead when they are touched by the spear. It takes a lot of force to actually deadly pierce a body. If the spearman misses and the spear gets caught or stuccked for 1, 2 seconds, he is doomed. 2 vs 1 duels in a real life and death situation are very hard to pull off.
@Kannot2023
@Kannot2023 2 жыл бұрын
@@shinyori Or the spear can be stuck in an attacker. To kill someone you need to pierce clothes, armor and flesh
@jacobknox2380
@jacobknox2380 2 жыл бұрын
cardio or use guns! lol seriously though, to outmaneuver and survibe a real 3 on 1, youd better be able to keep moving those feet! fatigue equals death in a melee
@nathan2254
@nathan2254 2 жыл бұрын
Well that was a long way of saying nothing profound
@hsquirrel7407
@hsquirrel7407 2 жыл бұрын
What about 3 v 2. Starting in a position of 3 surrounded by 2 together
@hariman7727
@hariman7727 9 ай бұрын
*Laughs out loud!* This is great in the first place, but the edits make it even more fun! Suddenly, I want a spear. ;)
@gackless
@gackless Жыл бұрын
This was fun to watch. Thanks!
@russellcooke1542
@russellcooke1542 2 жыл бұрын
Great battle good to see everyone having a great time can see the friendship between competitors keep up the action well done spearman Han moo👊
@hanmoorang
@hanmoorang 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! I will go to walse next years with Spearman. Please say hello to Robert and Sam minchinton. And I look forward to meeting you. HanMoo!!
@russellcooke1542
@russellcooke1542 2 жыл бұрын
@@hanmoorang I will say hello for you looking forward to your visit Hanmoo
@krieger8825
@krieger8825 2 жыл бұрын
He was fighting Darth Samurai
@Debbiebabe69
@Debbiebabe69 2 жыл бұрын
Throughout history, the best weapon has been the one that allowed one man to insert metal into the other from the greatest distance. When men started using sticks and clubs, they could easily beat someone who only had their fists and their teeth, although since they were not metal they could only stun them not kill. When men started adding metal to weapons, they could kill at a longer range than those who could only stun with wooden implements. The spear became the dominant weapon, as it allowed one man to put metal into the other man before the opponent could put metal into him. The bow later dominated warfare as it could put metal into a mans stomach before he got close enough to use his spear. The musket beat the bow, again longer range. The breechloading rifle took the place of the musket, as it not only could get metal into a man at a longer distance, it gave you better rate of fire allowing you to get metal into more men in a shorter period of time. Artillery later became the king of weapons, it outranged any gun as well as having a huge area of effect where one shell could send bits of metal into the stomcahs of many men at once. Aircraft then took over from artillery, they have an even longer range, and carried multiple warheads all capable of putting metal into many men at once. Now people say the war of the future will be fought with Drones. Whats special about Drones? Well, a guy sat in an office in San Francisco can press a button and put metal into the stomachs of several men he sees through his video feed in Baghdad. Its all about range. And thats why the spear beats the sword.
@yuushwo
@yuushwo 2 жыл бұрын
Well keep in mind also that you can also wear metal on your body to protect against the metal attacking you. That's why the bow was great but it was not so unstoppable as it's depicted in movies. Metal armor would stop arrows, so it was still better for men to try to force metal via a spear into you. Once guns could get that metal into you regardless of how much metal you wore, that's when people stopped using spears
@erekshin8856
@erekshin8856 2 жыл бұрын
Wood weapons can definately kill wtf are you on aboht
@broadbandislife
@broadbandislife 2 жыл бұрын
"Men kill at range to keep death at bay."
@grav8241
@grav8241 2 жыл бұрын
1v1 a spearman would get obliterated by a swordsman. a spearmen military would crush a swordsman military.
@broadbandislife
@broadbandislife 2 жыл бұрын
@@grav8241 I'm curious about the basis of your apparent unshakable confidence in that first claim. The historical record of the bayonet might also beg to disagree - and the bayoneted musket was hardly the most optimised iteration of the spear principle. The categoricality of the second one is a _liiiiiiiittle_ so-so too. The Romans had the sword as their primary infantry weapon, remember? The bulk of their opponents did _not._
@mpcbsar
@mpcbsar Жыл бұрын
Love the blood splatter effects. Great video
@poetry8888
@poetry8888 Жыл бұрын
That fromsoft ending was classic. So fun. You earned that like and it was very educative to see how powerful the spear really is
@Saberwulfy
@Saberwulfy 2 жыл бұрын
For those thinking that there is rivalry between spears and swords, in warfare the infantry equipment has always been spear, when the sword was introduced it was added and not replaced the spear. The probable order was a club; spear; spear + shield; spear + sword + shield.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy 2 жыл бұрын
It's a stupid mentality promoted heavily by silly fantasy. If you faced an actual elite warrior from either Japan or medieval Europe, he'd most likely have a spear or other polearm in hand with a sword on his hip.
@danilooliveira6580
@danilooliveira6580 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChiconspiracy depend on a thousand different factors. no one would carry a spear for self defense, and no one would equip footmen with expensive swords. if you are fighting heavily armored opponents you will want a mace or hammer (even Japanese samurai had their war clubs), in this a spear will do less than a sword that at least has some weight to it to ring some bells if you hit with enough force.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy Жыл бұрын
@@danilooliveira6580 The average spear has a mass advantage over every type of sword but a greatsword... and if it was made of a hardwood haft, it will loose alot less energy and impart MUCH more energy than a flexible sword blade could ever do. The fact is that even after poleaxes and other polearms existed, heavily armored western knights still used spears with diamond cross sections on foot to good effect against each other, and samurai were using a te-yari that was sometimes barely longer than a katana for fighting indoors... all while wearing a katana on their hip.
@Jackson-sc8jp
@Jackson-sc8jp Жыл бұрын
depends a little on formation and time period, Romans for example used a short sword called a Gladius because the type of shield they used lent itself well to the army making a sort of turtle formation and poking through the cracks of the shell so to speak. the short sword was more maneuverable and easier to fit through the gaps, using a spear in that scenario would likely see people on your side getting accidentally stabbed, your range of motion being significantly reduced by the people around you, and the shaft might even get caught in awkward positions and break conversely, if you're gonna do a cavalry charge, you bet your ass they're using some kind of polearm for that. Reach is huge in attacking from horseback
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy Жыл бұрын
@@Jackson-sc8jp Not really accurate. The Romans always had either a melee spear or a throwing spear that could also serve in melee. In most combat spears were likely used overarm which allows for fighting at very close range, allowing more power to be generated on the thrust and also avoiding the issues of hitting people behind you.
@joshuabecton4746
@joshuabecton4746 2 жыл бұрын
They would usually have short swords on their sides, when the enemy would get close enough that the spear was no longer effective. Incredible display by the Spearman, and good effort from the swordsmen.
@tobiasrietveld3819
@tobiasrietveld3819 2 жыл бұрын
'when the enemy would get close enough that the spear was no longer effective' is always such a weird idea. As if the spearman can't walk backwards or sidestep to maintain distance (and attack a few more times while doing so). And if fixed in formation you'd just run in the spear of the second line.
@juliennbitt3376
@juliennbitt3376 2 жыл бұрын
A katana can cut through a wooden spear at close range; furthermore even metal.(unless high grade steel) which would mean the spear would weigh like five katanas... So yeah
@juliennbitt3376
@juliennbitt3376 2 жыл бұрын
@@tobiasrietveld3819 Katana is the best instrument of death. People respect their katanas like the sword was a person or member of the family.
@thelastkushbendr7091
@thelastkushbendr7091 2 жыл бұрын
@@juliennbitt3376 spear beats katana sorry fanboy
@juliennbitt3376
@juliennbitt3376 2 жыл бұрын
@@thelastkushbendr7091 agreed to disagree ****
@rusteu
@rusteu 9 ай бұрын
woah. the editing is phenomenal!
@kurochi89
@kurochi89 Жыл бұрын
This is hilarious to watch. They had to have had a lot of fun doing this. Spears were cheap to make and doesn't require a great amount of skill to be used effectively which is why they were used so much in history. Great demonstration to the advantages that a spear had.
@claudemaggard7162
@claudemaggard7162 Жыл бұрын
No spears gave the user more range like artillery does on the battlefield. That is about it all summed up for you. Used in formations made it pretty lethal.
@JCOwens-zq6fd
@JCOwens-zq6fd 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Though ideally the spearman would've been fighting in formation w/ other spearmen historically speaking which would've changed things immensely. A sword is just a sidearm. A backup weapon.
@captainobvious8037
@captainobvious8037 2 жыл бұрын
Right Give farmers a spear and teach them how to stick together, instead of fancy and difficult sword skills
@marc7817
@marc7817 2 жыл бұрын
No. Sword was not only a backup weapon.
@BalmungTaishou
@BalmungTaishou 2 жыл бұрын
Backup weapon indeed but not to a spear but to a uwi(Japanese longbow)
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 2 жыл бұрын
@@BalmungTaishou there are more weapons other than japanese longbows that need a backup weapon. Swords for most of history were backup weapons for spearmen. When you are in a shieldwall or hoblite phalanx and your spear breaks or when you are in a pike phalanx and the enemy has managed to get behind the pikes, you have to draw your sidearm. Which is a sword. Because swords are the easiest to carry at the side as a backup. The backup of your sword would be a dagger or knife.
@BalmungTaishou
@BalmungTaishou 2 жыл бұрын
@@jarlnils435 hm in the constraints of Japan's history the primary weapon of the samurai were bows,spears then uchigatana so yes everything else is a backup for the bow. Since it was quite honorable to call someones name and then shoot them when they faced you.
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615 2 жыл бұрын
Told a buddy of mine about how good the spear is. I will be sharing this with him.
@phantommaggotxxx
@phantommaggotxxx 2 жыл бұрын
There's a really good video by Lindybeige 'spears are better than swords'
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615
@jonathanwelchbmnc7615 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantommaggotxxx thanks for the recommendation. I just watched the short version. Really enjoyed it. 👍
@malakatan3235
@malakatan3235 2 жыл бұрын
I always halberd guy but odd games always use sword
@sillymesilly
@sillymesilly 2 жыл бұрын
@@phantommaggotxxx wayyyyy better. Every standing army prioritized spear
@RealYRM
@RealYRM 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see an exercise where the swordsmen focus on one handed deflect/sidestep + grab the spear haft, especially when the spearman is outnumbered. When they were able to get inside, grabbing the spear might've been game changing.
@mononokehime3182
@mononokehime3182 Жыл бұрын
This looks so fun. I don't usually laugh easily but I laughed and felt like a little kid watching this.
@kamille286
@kamille286 Жыл бұрын
not gonna lie, this video was way more entertaining than I thought it would be, I thought it would be very confusing following what was happening, but the subtitles help a lot. Good job
@carvis3290
@carvis3290 2 жыл бұрын
Great combat! Very Cool! Swords are oft portrayed in pop culture, but on the battlefield, companies of Spear (Yari) conscripts or trained militias were one of the most common front line soldiers in history. The spear is long, powerful and typically requires much less metal to produce on a mass scale. Training to be a novice with spear can be taught to larger groups than specialized, close combat arms. The stick is pretty universal, but techniques vary across the world. Also defensive formations are much stronger with long arms. See Phalanx, Schiltron, Pike Wall for breaking horse charges, etc.
@haroldcruz8550
@haroldcruz8550 2 жыл бұрын
Only the Roman army in history was able to effectively use the sword as their primary offensive weapon for a long time.
@haroldcruz8550
@haroldcruz8550 2 жыл бұрын
@@ribos2762 Yes but it was kinda a misnomer because yes initially the Roman army used spears but they transitioned into using swords. Of course there is a debate on that, I tend to agree to the side of the historians that the Romans did transitioned into using swords because more evidence tends to favor the said interpretation.
@gatocles99
@gatocles99 2 жыл бұрын
@@haroldcruz8550 The Romans' primary weapon was their shield. It was used offensively to bash and unbalance, and bind, the enemy, opening him up to the chops and stabs of the gladius. We don't see that in the movies, because it is not pretty... rather, it looks like a rugby scrum, with blood and guts and grown men screaming and pooping themselves.
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Жыл бұрын
Spears are also easier to teach people how to use. If you had to raise a militia from a village of peasants in a hurry and - for some reason - you had your choice of swords or spears, it would make more sense to train them to use spears.
@dustinakadustin
@dustinakadustin Жыл бұрын
@@the_inquisitive_inquisitor exactly, spear training will consist of "face the enemy and start poking" vs sword training that is "face the enemy and swing a bit but not too much and remember to keep the edge aligned and keep your shield up at all times and don't overswing" 😂
@mollofistraye5164
@mollofistraye5164 2 жыл бұрын
I absolutely lost it at "trauma" HAHAHAH I NEED MORE THIS IS TOO GOOD
@NInjaTunazier
@NInjaTunazier 9 ай бұрын
Good video!! Thanks!
@hardstylelife5749
@hardstylelife5749 Жыл бұрын
So the “broom technique” is the ultimate supreme attack, noted. Jokes aside that was most interesting; very cool to see how the spearman changed his tactic from one match to the next. I would be most interested to see more test with different swordsman and spearman, so to see more scenarios. Great video
@AriUgwu
@AriUgwu 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of content almost makes me wish it required a short interview before watching. So many secrets here. The footwork shouldn’t be taken for granted. The tactics of the spear are top notch. You know it’s Budo when increasing opponents makes your life easier. The fact the swordsmen didn’t trip or strike each other by accident is a credit to their training. So good. It’s philosophy in motion. I hope we have another resurgence of Budo in the west. With MMA it seems to leave you sore. With Budo you leave having lived a dozen lives and died a thousand times. With MMA you are happy to have won. With Budo you will meditate on what was lost, and if the cost can be justified. I’m beyond grateful for having this training before going into service. It saved lives and allowed a type selfless service that is difficult to describe. Shinshin Shigan is a feeling I hope many more people are introduced to through Budo. Thanks for letting me ramble.
@gurugurukuma
@gurugurukuma 2 жыл бұрын
if you want to watch the full footage, check their main channel Hogu Couple.
@ndyoyo1905
@ndyoyo1905 2 жыл бұрын
literally anyone can do MMA whereas Budo takes REAL training
@cryptobungus5778
@cryptobungus5778 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you fight a trained mma fighter and post a video.
@AriUgwu
@AriUgwu 2 жыл бұрын
With my sword or my spear? I don’t think that would be a fair fight. Did you watch the video?
@gurugurukuma
@gurugurukuma 2 жыл бұрын
@@AriUgwu i think he is referring to that NDYoyo guy.
@cleanserofnoobs4162
@cleanserofnoobs4162 2 жыл бұрын
The spear was like the AK-47 of ancient times. Easy to make and use, and covers a large array of sinarios. It might not be the farthest ranged weapon, but it can be used for a good distance. It can only be beat fairly by either another spear or a bow (sniper).
@redace4821
@redace4821 2 жыл бұрын
Or really close range. At that range a Knife is better than a Spear.
@cleanserofnoobs4162
@cleanserofnoobs4162 2 жыл бұрын
@@redace4821 True. Assuming you manage to get close enough, a knife can be beneficial. But the shaft of the spear can be used to deflect or melee a close opponent. But yes, it won't be anywhere near as deadly or effective as a knife in that scenario. The main strategy of being a Spearman is to keep your enemy locked away at a distance, which is rather easy to do. Even an inexperienced Spearman can hold his own against a swordsman that is experienced.
@jerkchickenblog
@jerkchickenblog 2 жыл бұрын
lol there was no 'ak-47' of ancient times. that's hilarious. unless you mean a whole fusillade of archers. that would be the 'ak-47 of ancient times' lol. and ak-47s aren't any good at distance, the spray is too large
@josippenezic7106
@josippenezic7106 2 жыл бұрын
​@@redace4821 Remember that there are line of spears and few lines deep . One from line behind you can defend you . Back line used towing spears witch bend after they hit so enemy cant use it again ... And better quality spearman had short swords , shield ,clubs ,towing weapons ,"elite" spearman had heavy armor ...
@Erideah
@Erideah Жыл бұрын
In non-military scenarios where armor would be light or non-existant, I'd add a handful of bo-shuriken or throwing knives; things you'd pair with a sword for self defense for just this type of scenario
@Superbrawl404
@Superbrawl404 Жыл бұрын
Need more videos of this type! It was super imteresting!
@Coldcloves
@Coldcloves Жыл бұрын
Aye cool dark souls tribute man♥️♥️ loved this
@RoseKB22
@RoseKB22 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for adding the subtitles! It was super helpful for those of us who don't speak Korean. These videos are so fun, not to mention educational. Thanks so much for sharing these videos!
@ReverendMeat51
@ReverendMeat51 2 жыл бұрын
Japanese
@force83x
@force83x 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm its Japanese
@scott6291
@scott6291 2 жыл бұрын
As a Korean, I confirm that the people involved are Koreans and they speak Korean
@RoseKB22
@RoseKB22 2 жыл бұрын
@@scott6291 Thank you!
@greenirez2798
@greenirez2798 2 жыл бұрын
And people always question me when I use polearms in D&D. Figures like Sky Lance in Hero and Guan Yu in Romance of Three Kingdoms always struck me as more skilled and awesome warriors than your typical sword and board fighters.
@takingbacktoxic7898
@takingbacktoxic7898 2 жыл бұрын
In early editions of the AD&D game, pole arms and spears did have advantages especially at lower levels of play, as the longer weapon always won initiative in the first engagement between two opponents.
@KoryLunaa
@KoryLunaa 2 жыл бұрын
I mean if we're talking 5e, suprised it isnt the other way around A longsword in 5e doesnt have access to the Polearm Master feat, especially when combined with the Sentinel feat, is an an extremely effective combo A normal longsword and shield combo is kinda ehhh in 5e comapred to that Though this is assuming your willing to take these feats over say another like Great weapon Master combined with a Grewtsword or Battleaxe or an Abilty Score Improvement
@joshuabrant3487
@joshuabrant3487 2 жыл бұрын
using it d&d is weird because how often are you fighting in an open field vs in a cavern a castle etc
@greenirez2798
@greenirez2798 2 жыл бұрын
@@KoryLunaa yea polearm master is my go to feat for lvl 4. I’ve been fortunate enough to have been able to convince my last few DMs to allow us a free starting feat at character creation, so my Goliath Paladin, Dragonborn Barbarian and Bugbear Fighter have all been able to start with Polearm Master from the get go so I can utilize the lvl 4 asi for strength or sentinel.
@KoryLunaa
@KoryLunaa 2 жыл бұрын
@@greenirez2798 Yer, Polearm Master is overall a solid feat Bruh I love free feat house rules, I've implemented in my games and all it's done is make my games more interesting and the players have more fun, nice that you can find DMs who also do that rule
@bobe3250
@bobe3250 9 ай бұрын
This is so fun to watch!! Bet it is even better to play.😊
@jamesflowers8054
@jamesflowers8054 Жыл бұрын
oh cool. My new favorite youtube channel. I was looking for one of those
@Amoryl
@Amoryl 2 жыл бұрын
for the most part the spearman does an excelent job controling the movement of his opponants. the lightsaber really needed to learn to commit, unfortunately when they finally did they were too far away from support. pack tactics are key, you have to flank your opponant to open them up and negate that reach, but the spearman will, as he did several times, appear to open himself up to a flank to draw one too far away from the support of the others and make them an easy target. that time he was locked in a corner would have gone very differently for him if they were working more as a team than as individuals who happened to be together.
@juliahenriques210
@juliahenriques210 2 жыл бұрын
Yup. In my experience, against three coordinated swords a short spear is toast. If they pressured more, the spearperson would have had to improve, being more aggressive and feinting more, but they would have had the edge. When I trained, if you didn't finish each sword in three or four tempos, the others would get you.
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Жыл бұрын
The spear really comes into its own when you have a bunch of people using them in a line - especially if they're covered in a way that you can't flank.
@FinnMcRiangabra
@FinnMcRiangabra Жыл бұрын
Nonsense. This was not a real demonstration. Swordsman parries the spear, rushes forward, kills the spearman. The people with fake swords in this clip have no idea how to fight against a spear. They do not position their swords correctly to parry a spear thrust. And any other attack by a spear takes more time than the equivalent sword attack. So, parry the spear thrust, rush up, and kill the spearman. Simple as.
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor
@the_inquisitive_inquisitor Жыл бұрын
@@FinnMcRiangabra I think there's still value to be gained by watching a bunch of amateurs flailing around: it lets you see the innate advantages or disadvantages of the weapon in the absence of personal skill or experience.
@periculum69
@periculum69 Жыл бұрын
@@FinnMcRiangabra You are absolutely correct on tactics. I've seen other demonstrations that I liked better where it had people unfamiliar with using spears face off against skilled swordsmen who had never faced spears before. I'd love to see a demonstration where everyone knew what they were actually doing, but this level of mutual unfamiliarity with spears seemed to balance the playing field well. And they learned together that the correct tactics were exactly as you described. You had to get within the spear's reach and then you had the advantage. But that is still easier said than done. Even after they learned that, they would still fail to execute it and be "killed" more than half the time. Maybe they could have improved with practice, but again the spearmen were also learning and could have improved with practice. You are absolutely correct about what tactics to use, but I'd hardly say it's that simple like a sword should always win. The extra reach from the spear is still definitely an advantage in its favor.
@MrFox-ip3jf
@MrFox-ip3jf 2 жыл бұрын
His strategy of switching at the placement of his weapon works really well. They got used to him holding it. And now he drags it. Now they have to plan on the spot.
@taintedmyth0s636
@taintedmyth0s636 2 жыл бұрын
When the boss switches to their second phase xD
@andriosz
@andriosz 2 жыл бұрын
Dragging forward should be illegal. Hard to do with a real spear on a ground.
@davidryan8547
@davidryan8547 Жыл бұрын
I lov eeverything about this video including the dynasty warriors style music and the "You Died" message from souls
@Seuup_
@Seuup_ 4 ай бұрын
I love how they’re having so much fun lol
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video a lot. Thank you. 😊 Had the swordsmen synchronized their attack literally at the same time, they would have had the upper hand. But all they did was moving their formation with the spearman to avoid the spearman achieving flank position and turn into a 1-on-1 battle. A 3-on-1 battle is no good, if the 3 aren’t attacking at the same instant. Kudos to the spearman though. Definitely fighting smart. Trying to break up the 3-on-1 advantage and turn it into quick individual 1-on-1’s.
@TarrenHassman
@TarrenHassman 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely noticed the lack of coordinating movement from the swordsmen, but it’s impressive that they would have needed to be skilled in formational movement in order to take down the spearman. The definitely tried to coordinate attacks a little, just not very much or well
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 2 жыл бұрын
@@TarrenHassman Unfortunately, in a formation of spearman vs samurais, I think the spearman formation wins. Samurai side would need to weed down the spearman formation with archery first. This is just my speculation though. I don’t imagine a formation of centurion winning against phalanx. Unless flanking maneuver. But that gets us into another rabbit hole quick.
@TarrenHassman
@TarrenHassman 2 жыл бұрын
@@reallifeengineer7214 100% I meant that the 3 swordsmen need high knowledge of flanking and coordination tactics to even potentially beat the spearman. Just mentioning that even if their tactics weren’t the best, needing such a high level of tactics to win 3 v1 really puts the power of spears into context
@reallifeengineer7214
@reallifeengineer7214 2 жыл бұрын
@@TarrenHassman Ah. I see what you mean. Yes. I agree wholeheartedly.
@markrcca5329
@markrcca5329 2 жыл бұрын
Very true. But unless the swordsmen keep a close formation, it's very hard to coordinate a simultaneous attack. I'm not sure why, but it's some kind of instinct, to wait until the spear is finished with one of your friends, before you feel its a good moment to attack him.
@mindofthelion712
@mindofthelion712 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you can see and hear how much fun they're having in this
@TexasRedOutlaw
@TexasRedOutlaw 8 ай бұрын
The technique of keeping the spear along the floor seems very effective, it goes below the guard of the sword, preventing parrying away, it makes the attacker less confident as even a slight mistep will be a nick to the feet, it almost plays on a bit of a psychological block aswell, something crawling towards you along the floor, you give it way more distance than you would if the spear was in the air, allowing him to control far more floor space.
@vinhix
@vinhix 5 ай бұрын
Except its complety useless if you were using a real spear, since the steel and depending on the floor, it would barely slide, of not even slide at all, unless you did a lot of strengh. So thats the technique I found the worse, since its only useable in this situation.
@willthesword
@willthesword 5 ай бұрын
It also shows you how pointless this rules set is, as if you were running your spear along the ground like that the actualy amount of force you could get on someones limb when you hit it would cause a scratch, and then they hit you with a full strength swing.
@user-ng4xe5rf8n
@user-ng4xe5rf8n 4 ай бұрын
@@willthesword You sound like you've never cut yourself. slight pokes with sharpened metal can cause meaningful damage. Yes, it's not as leathal, but it can hurt enough to cause shock paralysis. And that split second is more than enough for a proper secondary hit.
@willthesword
@willthesword 4 ай бұрын
@@user-ng4xe5rf8n shock paralysis? What have you made up here? No, seriously, Google it and tell me if you get anything describing it, because you've just made it up. Adrenaline in these sorts of situations normally keeps you going well past significant injuries without you even realising you were injured. People keep fighting with multiple bullet wounds without pausing. A light cut from a spear doesn't cause someone to stand still to be killed.
@user-ng4xe5rf8n
@user-ng4xe5rf8n 4 ай бұрын
@willthesword My bad. The translator got screwed up. But it seems you know the general concept so whatever I know that adrenaline can keep you going, but the neural feedbacks work in multiple and contested ways. Depending on numerous factors your body may walk it off temporarily, or it may go stiff like cramps in a sense. Human body is way too much complicated to be put into this-equals-that. You're not wrong, but I'm not wrong either.
@sethaldarith6778
@sethaldarith6778 Жыл бұрын
We need a movie starring these guys using this exact soundtrack.
@cade5792
@cade5792 2 жыл бұрын
Great display of skill from the spearman. Great mobility and aim. However, the swordsmen looked uncoordinated. They all looked like they were waiting for their 1v1 moment. Didn't capitalize on any extreme range spear thrusts, no trying to bind/bat the spear, and seemed very uncomfortable in general. Great video!
@iamtheteapot7405
@iamtheteapot7405 2 жыл бұрын
I could be wrong but this seems like more of a practice challenge for the spearmen, I doubt the swordsman were really trying to push their advantage.
@cade5792
@cade5792 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamtheteapot7405 I would disagree. If that were the case, then the exercise would have only had 2 combatants on the mat at any given time. As funny as it may sound, I do indeed have experience fighting against and with spears in armored combat, both in a single combatant setting and in a massive battle. Look up Eyes of the Dragon, Great Western War 2021 for an idea of what I'm talking about. Fighting alone and fighting with others is definitely a different skill set, but not by much. If they trained more and had someone dedicated to fouling his spear, they could overwhelm him, perhaps taking 1 casualty consistently.
@iamtheteapot7405
@iamtheteapot7405 2 жыл бұрын
@@cade5792 I think you either completely missed my point or you are responding to someone else.
@cade5792
@cade5792 2 жыл бұрын
@@iamtheteapot7405 I understood your point. This drill is indeed focused on the spearman. I do not think the swordsmen were holding back by agreement or ruleset. I'm not doubting their skill or experience. I wanted to highlight that their previous fighting experience did not prepare them for this exercise. While, for the spearman, this exercise was basically a series of three 1v1 fights in very quick succession because of how the swordsmen chose to approach the fight. It is called "How many swordsmen [are needed] to fight a spearman" after all.
@iamtheteapot7405
@iamtheteapot7405 2 жыл бұрын
@@cade5792 Ok then we respectfully disagree.
@ericrecano8557
@ericrecano8557 2 жыл бұрын
I recently just found this channel-all the practitioners have good skill but that Spearman is exceptional-it does help that the spear is the ‘king of melee’ weapons but when out in the hands of a real expert it makes for a huge challenge for the other combatants. I loved how the spearman prevented from getting flanked or surrounded. Great channel!
@ulfurkjalkur5165
@ulfurkjalkur5165 4 ай бұрын
The sword throw and then the Dark Souls reference at the end were great 😂
@gozer87
@gozer87 2 жыл бұрын
Love the squelch sound effect! It's tough to take on a good spearman when they have room to run.
@blooperman1997
@blooperman1997 2 жыл бұрын
True enough, but when one of you is pretty much guaranteed to get shanked, which one is going first?
@Jonic_P
@Jonic_P 2 жыл бұрын
Keeping a low guard was an interesting play with the spear. Besides "hand snipes", I've seen a lot of spars ended with someone make a sudden attack on the legs. With the spears reach, and the fact most of them were employing high guards, going for the leg is a good strategy. Now considering things like Italian and German Swordplay etc. does employ some low guards, that interplay could be interesting... But considering my own experience with how unpredictable spear fighting already is (with how quickly you can change grips and can throw it at almost anytime)... It would still be difficult as hell to fight with a sword 😂
@raebertgrayson5766
@raebertgrayson5766 Жыл бұрын
The thing that struck me was the hesitation on the part of the swordsmen. I also use a spear (among other pole arms), as well as the sword, so I understand the advantages and disadvantages of both weapons. There were many moments when the spearman would make a move that would've ended him, IF just one of the swordsmen would've carried through with a serious attack; they chose to block many of the spearman's thrusts, when simple movement would have gotten them closer to make their attack. The spearman as well made errors... (before I go further, I understand it was a light-hearted contest, made for fun) ...and just about the only technique I saw him using was the thrust. He hardly ever used the shaft, or the butt. Some of his moves were opened him up considerably. Skating the tip of his weapon along the floor as he did when things got "serious" would not have been possible with live steel. Overall, it was a deeply enjoyable video. Good job!
@CustardDonut
@CustardDonut Жыл бұрын
Wowser, where do you live that you use both a sword and spear.
@raebertgrayson5766
@raebertgrayson5766 Жыл бұрын
@@CustardDonut I study martial arts in southern California. This has let me excell in Medieval combat in various Medievalist combat groups.
@Boywellesley13
@Boywellesley13 9 ай бұрын
Exactly, deflect the spear down and to one side with your weapon/ shield, step diagonal forward the other way while keeping your weapon/shield on the spear shaft and close for the kill. You have to wait for a chance and commit. It is much easier with a shield, being able to hook with an axe has its uses too.
@MikaeruDaiTenshi
@MikaeruDaiTenshi 9 ай бұрын
@@raebertgrayson5766 My tactical approach, though myself neither being experienced nor trained, would be to wait for the spearman's thrust, then sidestep, grap the shaft, and either go in for the attack or break the spear. Or, in a 3v1, let the others go in for the kill. However, I do understand that this would be a risky thing to do in a real fight, and there might be a warrior's (samurai) code against doing such a thing. So, what would you say about that?
@raebertgrayson5766
@raebertgrayson5766 9 ай бұрын
@@MikaeruDaiTenshi That's a very sound approach! Getting one's weapon grabbed is always a risk when using pole arms, especially in mass combat, Most people would be at a loss on how to deal with it. The obvious counter would be to free the weapon by leveraging it against the opponent's grip: the human hand has certain inherent weaknesses: moving your weapon in a circle usually serves to break such a grip. if done quickly enough, It's surprising how little force is required to do so. Points for posing a good observation!
@Motiz7
@Motiz7 Жыл бұрын
Great content
@random-unbreaded-commentor
@random-unbreaded-commentor 2 жыл бұрын
The "you died" at the end sent it for me. Loved this
@TenchiBushi
@TenchiBushi 2 жыл бұрын
YOu make me wish I live in your commuting area or at the very least a distant train trip away. I want to experiment with some techniques and tactics! Greetings from Aomori, Japan!
@KoaStudio
@KoaStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Aomori! Iine, been there a few times while I was living in Oodate. Tanoshikatta ne!
@assclown78000
@assclown78000 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this channel is AWESOME
@redshark32s
@redshark32s 9 ай бұрын
You Died Hahaha! Perfect FromSoft reference! Also, amazing video! I love to see weapon arts against one another.
@wolfgangritter9277
@wolfgangritter9277 2 жыл бұрын
Fun to watch. I come from a different fencing system and I would have handled the weapons and general movement differently. As the swordsman I probably would have tried to close the distance and get into a bind between sword and spear for a better control of the spearman's movements. But all in all, the spearman showed good knowledge on controlling the distance and avoiding to face his opponents all at once - very clever.
@psychocomytic9778
@psychocomytic9778 2 жыл бұрын
For sure, lack of coordinated attacks was the big reason swords took such hard losses. But they missed some big opportunities to trap the Spearman and his weapon.
@VarnaSaga
@VarnaSaga 2 жыл бұрын
I guess the term "divide and conquer" is the strategy the spearman did well in this video otherwise he would have easily been overwhelmed being outnumbered.
@cjcj7387
@cjcj7387 2 жыл бұрын
french foil, spanish rapier and dagger user here. 15yrs exp. 1v1 you still would have been killed pretty easily to the spearman. Maybe with spanish rapier and dagger you could do better as spanish rapier has a lot more range. but foil and epee. No. the second you try to "close the distance" is the second you "fall on the enemy's spear"
@Helldog117
@Helldog117 2 жыл бұрын
In a fight against multiple opponents hit and run and circling tactics tend to work best to divide and conquer the enemy. with a spear you can do this and they won’t even be able to touch you
@toddellner5283
@toddellner5283 2 жыл бұрын
No matter what system you do you have to have darned near perfect distance and timing to fight with a sword against a spear or polearm
@Drewer222
@Drewer222 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly one of the best videos I've seen in a cool minute, it's very interesting seeing how each weapon is actually used in combat.
@academyofstreetdance1107
@academyofstreetdance1107 Жыл бұрын
My new favourite channel
@cclayton1917
@cclayton1917 Жыл бұрын
man that looks fun!
@NIGHTMAREDEVASTATOR
@NIGHTMAREDEVASTATOR 2 жыл бұрын
the screams suit perfectly with the music. the effects are a nice addition and the rules are simple and effective. i need more of these awesome videos, great work
@b.h.abbott-motley2427
@b.h.abbott-motley2427 2 жыл бұрын
In his 1626 book, Richard Peeke claimed to have used a makeshift quarterstaff with sharp point to defeat three Spaniards armed with rapier & dagger. George Silver thought the short staff, a 8-9ft spear with a point on each end & stout enough to give powerful blows, had the odds against two opponents armed with swords & daggers. Those historical examples suggest three was about the number of folks with swords required to defeat someone with a spear on average. (Peeke didn't think the odds were in his favor in that fight he managed to win.)
@christopherknorr2895
@christopherknorr2895 2 жыл бұрын
Bear in mind also that many of the wins you would get in that match up would see you totally unharmed at the end, ready for the next fight, while even 3v1 the swordsmen are likely to take losses against you even when they win.
@The_PlagueDoctor
@The_PlagueDoctor Жыл бұрын
Love the animations
@CrisEdmundson
@CrisEdmundson 5 ай бұрын
Fucking awesome music choices. The jazz was so much fun
@OverSooll
@OverSooll 2 жыл бұрын
Finally something real with weapons, the spearman is a real master !
@justsomeswordkid1630
@justsomeswordkid1630 2 жыл бұрын
yes until the end where he didnt kept the enemy´s at distance. i dont really understand why he stoped running in the end like it would have been a victory if he didnt let himself get cornered and i dont understand why he let his guard down at 4:29
@imadegenerate9867
@imadegenerate9867 2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeswordkid1630 Out of stamina maybe
@justsomeswordkid1630
@justsomeswordkid1630 2 жыл бұрын
@@imadegenerate9867 he didnt look very exhausted
@golgothatheend
@golgothatheend 2 жыл бұрын
@@justsomeswordkid1630 There was another match earilier on, with two swordsmen vs spearman. He was running two matches, trying not to get outflanked, so I'd assume he was indeed exhausted by that point.
@tyronekim3506
@tyronekim3506 2 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call shinai a real weapon, but it was interesting to watch.
@bobrovs1
@bobrovs1 Жыл бұрын
When we played same games best swordsmen tactic was formation line relatively close each other (and advance to spearman holding line): spearman hits (maybe) one swordsman, but others counterattack and win in most cases. Otherwise spearman can charge each swordsman individually and win each charge due to the advantage in the length of the weapon (as shown).
@gregbrown3082
@gregbrown3082 Жыл бұрын
But much more reliable is the tried and true strategy of waiting for your opponent to die. All you have to do is be younger... And I'd say you've got this one in the bag.
@p.o.d.t
@p.o.d.t 9 ай бұрын
oh my god you are a fucking genius@@gregbrown3082
@nekosaiyajin8529
@nekosaiyajin8529 5 ай бұрын
@@gregbrown3082 Not true, since it's commonly known that the waiting strategy's main winning condition isn't age at all, but the ammount of food and water avaiable to each fighter. One of the fighters could be 20 years older than the other, if he had more food and water avaiable he would still win. Although, I must say, that if the hunger and thirst variables weren't a factor in this strat, and all we were left with was age to determine the winner, you sir, would for sure carry no losses against anyone in this comment section. Furthermore I must also insist that, even if thirst and hunger were considered, and there was no food avaiable but plenty of water to both fighters, you would most definitely still hold the winning record.
@ahmedtaha-py7st
@ahmedtaha-py7st Жыл бұрын
I loved the back ground riff lol
@Mostly_bad
@Mostly_bad 5 ай бұрын
This was a lot of fun.
@FingerSpazm
@FingerSpazm 2 жыл бұрын
There's a reason spears are the ultimate melee weapon and always have been throughout warfare. Wood is cheap and making shafts is easy! You only need tiny bit of metal at the end. Great for mass production! And the range meant that even inexperienced fighters could kill or injure a much more skilled opponent using a sword before they could even get to them. Many ancient battles were won by relatively untrained commoners with spears! It's like how guns beat all melee weapons, range is a huge factor!
@planetlimbo5981
@planetlimbo5981 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the dark souls you died at the end. Spear wins usually.
@party4keeps28
@party4keeps28 Жыл бұрын
This is awesome.
@PrometheanConsulting
@PrometheanConsulting Жыл бұрын
I think the rules of this contest greatly favor the spear over the sword. Most of the "touch" and slashing attacks by the spear would not be disabling though certainly inconvenient. Even a kill shot might not drop an opponent before getting seriously injured in return. Fun to watch but as a competitive 3-weapon fencer (and occasional stage combat fighter including spear basics), I have my doubts. Dragging the spear point is very poor technique. And the swordsmen appear unskilled in their use of distance and ability to coordinate... there was of running to a position, setting, and getting killed. More of an exhibition than an actual test between skilled combatants.
@MontySlython
@MontySlython Жыл бұрын
These aren't HEMA fighters, they are sports enthusiasts, neither likely has much experience fighting in a group or fighting a combatant that has reach advantage.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy Жыл бұрын
A real spear can deliver far more powerful blows than a sword could... Many sword cuts are mitigated by heavy clothing, never mind actual armor.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy Жыл бұрын
@Matrick How the is being empty handed better against any weapon? If you're wearing a good pair of gloves, you can grab a sword blade with little issue, but actually trying that against someone slightly competent is basically suicide, and a spear would be even worse.
@TheChiconspiracy
@TheChiconspiracy Жыл бұрын
@Matrick Have you even tried it against someone with a rapier? It's a nightmare, and a spear can be redirected faster and hit a wider range of targets. Feint high and quickly thrust low into the femoral artery. Feint low and make your opponent reach down then stick him in the throat. If you have ANY kind of weapon, you have something that you at least have a small chance of parrying with that isn't your easily pierced flesh.
@Lethalmuffin87
@Lethalmuffin87 Жыл бұрын
Yeah sweeping the tip like that was bad form, I learned to get behind the lethal range quickly and use the blade to disable further use. So in this example push forward, and step on the pole arm while another attacks. Or just rush in before he can pull back the haft. If your weapon is close range and you’re up against a medium range opponent you want to push the advantage and take away their ability to plan an effective counter. These guys seem like beginners just casually seeing what a fight would look like spear v sword. A master swordsman knows his weakness though and the weakness of the spear. A sword advantage is the entire weapon is dangerous whereas the spear only the ends are effective offensively while the haft is defense
@Sijilos
@Sijilos 2 жыл бұрын
Looks great when he snaps the spear straight to the swordsmans. I can't imagine dozens of spears lined up. Aaaand music was a killer! Definitely suscribing!
@westindie1132
@westindie1132 2 жыл бұрын
Love this channel!!!
@justaddguitar
@justaddguitar Жыл бұрын
Came for the fight, stayed formusic
@albert_the_cool8092
@albert_the_cool8092 Жыл бұрын
This channel is going to have a million of subs real fast, just wait and see
@BluntedBaboon
@BluntedBaboon 2 жыл бұрын
It seems in this sort of exercise a spearman gains a lot of benefits thru it being a practice / dummy session. I don't think you could really aggressively push a spear around the ground like that, and the durability of a spear comes into question if it is parried with a sword.
@petergoge2072
@petergoge2072 Жыл бұрын
No. It's almost impossible to hack a spear in two with a sword.
@JeremiahPTTN
@JeremiahPTTN Жыл бұрын
Spear shafts were always a dense hard wood. Very strong and would require several hacks in the same spot to get through with the sharpest of swords.
@Sentient.A.I.
@Sentient.A.I. Жыл бұрын
@@JeremiahPTTN Yeah but if the 3 surrounded him there would be a swordsman likely injured or dead. Also these swordsman did not have shields which allowed several swordsmen to charge a lone spear user hacking at him from the safety of the shield.
@KyranFindlater
@KyranFindlater Жыл бұрын
@@Sentient.A.I. you think shields help all that much? Your legs and groin get stabbed a long while you protect your torso and head with the shield. you go down for the fight, but live to fight another day (maybe). Ancient greek combat was all about spear and shield, but the shield only gets you so far! It's also very specific to fighting with older soldiers close together. A swordsman with a shield often means you end up with a shorter sword too, which doesn't help.
@mikeduff2070
@mikeduff2070 Жыл бұрын
the spear showed it had little durability when the guy had time to just put the tip back on.
@gizmog
@gizmog 2 жыл бұрын
no matter which is better or whatever, this looked freaking fun to do, I'm actually jealous!!! I want to go in with foam shuriken and and a wooden stick horse and pretend I'm the attacking ninja!!
@MrFluppi
@MrFluppi 6 ай бұрын
Nice music, fun to watch
@bramweinreder2346
@bramweinreder2346 Жыл бұрын
Of course the one with the lightsaber is the first to die instantly 😂 great vid!
@EduardoBenfield
@EduardoBenfield 2 жыл бұрын
When the last swordsman throw the sword and run, I almost choked from laughter ... he was dead and he knew it... thanks for this video!
@lupusalbus3795
@lupusalbus3795 2 жыл бұрын
That "you died" at the end had me going from hype to hilarious.
@ayanosuki474
@ayanosuki474 Жыл бұрын
They remind me of me and my friends whenever we get our hands on cool looking sticks.
@MrParagonical
@MrParagonical 2 ай бұрын
This looks like it would be so much fun.
The longsword duel from THE KING is on point.
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