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@tomasom449713 күн бұрын
Buzz actually has the proper sane attitude about this whole topic when you actually hear him speak about it in interviews. There are plenty of clips of him doing so. He generally just states it short and sweet and matter-of-factly. He has said that he wouldn't want to trade places with Nirvana for any reason. "I would rather see Kurt alive and not famous than dead and famous" All he ever says is that his happiest memories of Kurt were before the fame and drugs and all that came after was not very pleasant to remember.
@antondillet46611 күн бұрын
Thank you for this comment! I had the honor and luck getting to know Buzz (and Dale) in person (Sorry for my English!) and I'm not able to name one human, that is more open minded than Buzz. I could imagine, that he pulled back himself from Kurt for his own protection at some point, but as far as I know him, he always accepts other people as they are (exceptions might confirm the rules, like we say in Germany) and would never hate Kurt, I'm sure about, and also I don't believe that he is or was jealous because of Kurt's fame - what doesn't mean, that he wouldn't like to get some more fame for themselves. But the Melvins make music for the music, for the art, for themselves, of course, and yes, also for a living. Fame makes it surely easier to live from the music, but fame isn't the impetus for them making music. And, last, but not least: Buzz seems to me having a straight, an honest character. And again: Sorry for my alien-English.
@tomasom449711 күн бұрын
@@antondillet466 Yes, I think you described him perfectly. This video and the people making comments here as if they are informed is just typical internet and media mob mentality. It's ridiculous. "There is what people want to believe, and then there is the truth" ~ Buzz Osborne
@Viper505repiV114 күн бұрын
The video makes it seem like Kurt and Buzz just stopped associating with each other around '92 when Nirvana had Melvins playing wifh them during 9 of the In Utero tour shows including their last show on March 1st in Germany.
@whois358111 күн бұрын
Kids that weren't even alive during that time, making videos to stir made-up drama for clicks. This generation is wasted. They'll never accomplish any greatness like the music of the 90s because theyre too busy chasing acceptance through clicks, attention, and money.
@TheTubetastiktuber13 күн бұрын
The Melvins were the opening band on Nirvanas last show. What are you talking about “left behind”. This is dumb
@th1agu15 күн бұрын
The record labels wanted pretty boys bands and Melvins wasn't that at all.😅
@samuraidave164514 күн бұрын
Nah man Nirvana was just way better than the Melvins lol he’s just salty of their success saying that
@nunyafunyuns13 күн бұрын
In some ways, there needed to be Melvins before there could be Nirvana, but Kurt was just a way better songwriter. Melvins played their part by inspiring people who were much more talented to follow the path they beat down and to widen it further. They were a success in that they were pioneers. Pioneers don't always make a lot of money.
@israel884712 күн бұрын
The labels wanted Radio friendly hits, the Melvin’s did not have that either.
@Philip_Taylor12 күн бұрын
A band with 2 drummers needs to pay for 2 drummers instead of 1.
@SPINNINGMYWHEELS77711 күн бұрын
they wanted rap
@chrisskully122815 күн бұрын
Stain wasn't on the Bleach album, it was on Incesticide. Sack the researcher!🤣😂🤣
@krisfrederick500115 күн бұрын
Stain was recorded around the same time as Bleach and released on the "Blew" EP which was released only in England December 1989. They got confused.
@chrisskully122815 күн бұрын
@@krisfrederick5001 All good my friend, great content.👍
@krisfrederick500115 күн бұрын
@@chrisskully1228 The covers looked really similar I get why screwed that up. And Aneurysm was also released on the Teen Spirit single before Incesticide. Appreciate you calling that out
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
@krisfrederick5001 the live version was on the single. Not the studio version.
@ovohm8 күн бұрын
Incestiside was not a LP. It actually came out after Nevermind.
@AndrewLemmings199815 күн бұрын
This is not necessarily true. Kurt did everything he could to get them exposure, and in 1992 or 1993, he got them signed to a major label and produced one of their records, and when they started getting media attention, they just bashed the fame and bashed Kurt. There’s tons of footage of this
@map338415 күн бұрын
Just another falling out in rock history. Nirvana took the lead and their idols stood idle. The Melvins do deserve some credit.
@darricshhh15 күн бұрын
Of course, but Buzz is super salty about all of it.
@twonunpackmule15 күн бұрын
Naw. Buzz still has his head about it.
@lerojo14 күн бұрын
They didn't fall out. The Melvins still toured with Nirvana even up to the end of of Nirvana in 94.
@Philip_Taylor14 күн бұрын
A History of Bad Men is song and a half.
@stewartmitchell800714 күн бұрын
Buzz isn't salty about that. He's incredibly angry at the loss of kurt.
@viiofwands307615 күн бұрын
I think it's more of the fact that Nirvana reached mainstream success. Usually when an underground band reaches that type of success, they tend to get weirdness from the underground community. I don't think the Melvins had any real issues with Kurt or the band but of course had their opinions on the route Nirvana decided to take.
@nunyafunyuns14 күн бұрын
I absolutely think Buzz has a chip on his shoulder when it comes to Kurt. I've seen enough interviews with him slagging Kurt to feel pretty confident about it.
@briandelgado498514 күн бұрын
Definitely I know a hater when I see them buzz had an inner hatred for kurt. I have a couple "friends " like that lol
@rmv919412 күн бұрын
I mean, If Kurt was too screwed to produce he was too screwed. It sounds completely plausible.
@nunyafunyuns10 күн бұрын
@@rmv9194 That's far from the only negative thing he's ever said about Kurt.
@sandpiper92887 күн бұрын
@@nunyafunyuns He never said anything negative about Kurt.
@nunyafunyuns4 күн бұрын
@sandpiper9288 Not specifically, just negativity about Nirvana and their success and its always kinda low level but it comes across.
@AntdevampКүн бұрын
I don't know, and I don't want to know. Nirvana left them as they were, untouching the masterpiece. That's true friendship.
@kevinkirkland457714 күн бұрын
Buzz is the dave mustaine of grunge
@ovohm8 күн бұрын
Kurt used Mastaine
@ChristopherGray008 күн бұрын
nah dave mustaine is notoriously a level 10 drama queen, buzz cant seem to get over it sure, but he's not nearly as bad about it as mustaine lol
@huskybrutor92877 күн бұрын
Buzz is more honest than bitter but he’s definitely bitter.
@sandpiper92887 күн бұрын
Stupid take.
@whatabouttheearth13 күн бұрын
I want to know where the influence of the sad melodies Kurt does in songs like 'Sappy' and 'Dumb' come from, is that Kurt alone or is there something like it in his influences? Because to me sofar that haunting type of melody seems quintessentially and uniquely Kurt.
@thomasminarchickjr.735512 күн бұрын
Beatles
@ovohm8 күн бұрын
Sappy. I'm a moron. What's a B? Why none wrote B songs?
@thomaspayne285915 күн бұрын
if Kurt was alive today im sure that him buzz would have made up and become friends again
@map338415 күн бұрын
They say it was Cortney who hated Buzz and was the reason their friendship broke apart.
@krisfrederick500115 күн бұрын
@@map3384 She pushed everyone away from him. That's the first thing sociopaths do to get control over someone.
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
@krisfrederick5001 oh boy here we go. Subjugation and blame. Women are free to make their own decisions and you owe them nothing. On and on.
@heightenedsenses960514 күн бұрын
They were friends until the end, nirvana went on tour with the melvins in 94.
@iamnotmrlebowski14 күн бұрын
the melvins don't give a fk about fame. look at their discography. it's prolific and endless. They evolve, they make new genres; they have no boundaries as a band. 2 bassists? no problem. 2 drummers? no problem. mike patton? no problem. 51 states in 51 days? no problem. they get better with age, which is the craziest thing concept to fathom. without lysol there would be no sleep's dopesmoker. period. the melvins, sleep and neurosis all gig'ed together at the same place during that time. miles ahead of everyone and still are today. don't get me wrong, I grew up listening and idolizing both bands. but the melvins are probably more influential to bands, than nirvana.
@Vor_Tex_Sun14 күн бұрын
Melvins are the god farthers. Many Bands copied the Melvins. And without the Melvins, Grunge would have not been how we know it. Melvins influenced so many bands. You can hear Melvins in many bands, including TOOL
@areamusicale13 күн бұрын
3:11 oh! I never noticed the crucifix !!!! ♱
@Mega5210114 күн бұрын
How does this guy makes his thumbnails?
@krisfrederick500115 күн бұрын
Kurt got his first guitar from his Uncle, he used the gun money for his first decent Peavey amp from the pawn shop. Nirvana is my favorite band ever, and I love the Melvins. Down with the Melvins was the loudest show I have ever seen (with a hangover) amazing. I think deep down he missed his friend, an element of jealousy, obviously. Buzz was just bitter...and hurt. Because he also defends Kurt.
@Lewis-me7jr14 күн бұрын
I’m not sure a single sentence in this video is accurate. I want to list all of the inaccuracies but I don’t even know where to start.
@tomasom449712 күн бұрын
Exactly. "There is what people want to believe, and then there is the truth" ~Buzz Osborne
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
You have to hear Ever Since My Accident, not the one from ozma... the one on the first kill rock stars compilation. Its their wildest song. Ever.
@Zama_Zama15 күн бұрын
🔥
@heathparker648814 күн бұрын
I’d pick In utero, I like the unpolished sound
@alienautopsy932610 күн бұрын
The Melvins are one of the greatest bands in history. Buzz is a guitar innovator legend and Dale Crover is a master percussionist, one of the finest drummer of our time. All their bassists have been great as well
@JesusInPogForm8 күн бұрын
I think the Melvins wanted to bang in expand their fanbase and bang out. Let not forget who died.
@Philip_Taylor14 күн бұрын
The kids today aren't going to walk around in Melvins shirts but I do see a ton of Nirvana ones these days.
@mikewilson358114 күн бұрын
A lot of poseurs wear them. Just like kids wearing Ramones shirts but can't name a single Ramones song.
@spider-manunknown919314 күн бұрын
@@mikewilson3581Not true
@mikewilson358114 күн бұрын
@@spider-manunknown9193 Gen Z is so contemporary.
@spider-manunknown919314 күн бұрын
@@mikewilson3581 As someone who is a part of Gen Z and owns Nirvana merch and listens to all there music and owns their albums I find your comment true and insulting at the same time.
@mikewilson358114 күн бұрын
@@spider-manunknown9193 You're a drop in the ocean then.
@jonathanwapner62626 күн бұрын
The Melvins would have died in obscurity without Kurt Cobain talking about them. He kept them relatively relevant. In a way, Nirvana fans look to The Melvins as an alternate reality where Nirvana still exists to this day making songs that evolved from the early Nirvana sound but diverged from the path that led to Nevermind.
@chrisknight37346 күн бұрын
Uh no. Melvins were making a good living before Nirvana hit it big. All the Seattle area bands were influenced by the Melvins. Boris named their band after a Melvins song. Melvins have been wildly successful on their own terms and it has nothing to do with Nirvana and everything to do with being one of the hardest working bands, period
@ovohm8 күн бұрын
Mudhoney... Kurt took the place of superstar big fudge muff with his super hyper karisma
@SmokeWithMeInCT14 күн бұрын
Why do people show his hair that way , he never had hair that looked that way
@maximalwest279714 күн бұрын
The Melvins werent maybe good enough. We are talking Rock Stars and not some Mother Theresa i wanna be Famous Happening. The Masses decide.
@bplumb8214 күн бұрын
Stain is not on Bleach
@lichtfilme15 күн бұрын
Id watch it but I hate the hateful clickbate thumbnail so pass
@rmv919412 күн бұрын
Kurt used as a producer when he didn't even know what a producer was shows it was done just as a marketing ploy by the atlantic records.
@philsophkenny14 күн бұрын
😮
@drugstorecowboy654013 күн бұрын
Buzz rant on Dave Grohl is classic....But Melvins were instrumental in the grunge music. Look at Nirvana bleach album was diff influenced by the Melvins..
@boneappletea385815 күн бұрын
5:54 rem? You mean R.E.M.?
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
Well technically it's said as a word in medical fields.
@boneappletea385814 күн бұрын
@@JokersNtheOddball that's correct and if you were using it in the medical field, that would make sense.
@sandpiper92887 күн бұрын
These videos are made with AI voices. And many of the comments are not real people either. KZfaq is in a race to the bottom.
@CaseyBrown-xw5lf11 күн бұрын
Yeah left behind! Didn't they open up for Nirvana in Europe the last tour they ever did? I guess they should have shared a merchandise deal with them for the rest of time maybe then that would be good enough smh
@La_domniz14 күн бұрын
I like bleach the best bc of the lore
@devinreese139714 күн бұрын
Unplugged,
@jbirdapparel14 күн бұрын
Buzz is just a jealous prick. What did he want Kurt to do? Maybe if the Melvins made better music, like Houdini which was a great album, they would have been more succesful. I mean after Houdini they wrote mediocre trash.
@Doyle-fq7we11 сағат бұрын
I think Buzz killed Kirk hobain
@justincarpenter119712 күн бұрын
Bleach is their best album…live versions are killer
@ralphhutchinson94011 күн бұрын
Discover Kurt's ghost songwriter and the Melivins influence goes right out window. Nirvana is a designed band by the ghost guitarist songwriter of a paparazzi recording conspiracy. Smells Like Teen Spirit is about that relationship between Kurt's ghost songwriter and the paparazzi recording crew spying and stealing the songs. Kurt didn't write Smells Like Teen Spirit, All Apologies, Heart Shape Box. Now that you know about the paparazzi recording crew, listen to Come As You Are. Tom Petty was involved, so listen to, Don't Come Around Here No More. Now listen to Foo Fighters' song Monkey Wrench. The proof is overwhelming. Ask Taylor Swift she is involved, and Kurt's ghost songwriter created Shake It Off. The entire Lady Gaga show was designed by Kurt's songwriter. The music conspiracy controls the entertainment industry.
@bradleybnelson39115 күн бұрын
The Melvins are Awesome but I gotta say Buzz seems to be a prick to so maybe he should stop talking bad about the dead and start realizing we are all just people
@Astrophobia8814 күн бұрын
All Buzz does is slag off Cobain and Grohl. Pure jealousy
@jcwareham819 күн бұрын
@@Astrophobia88The funniest part about it is that no one in the world outside of their small town would even know who the Melvins are if not for Kurt Cobain. Dude brought them more success and exposure than they could have ever brought themselves.
@roeberdt-bT.102113 күн бұрын
...well king buzzo is a dud, so you figure out your own version of your definition of the word. ...(And just like you can read from so many others, "..."BEAT 'EM TO IT"\...,.)
@JohnDoe-od7ye14 күн бұрын
Buzz is insufferable.
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr824514 күн бұрын
He may be a prick but at least he’s not a complete pos like Homme or Moody
@drunkenbugsuck13 күн бұрын
how is he insufferable?
@jamiered71028 күн бұрын
How's Cobain doing?
@antiratrace5 күн бұрын
@@jamiered7102He's doing great. Peaced out during the height of his career, avoided the downfall of the music industry, avoided the covid era and the Trump presidency, yet is still relevant 30 years later. He misses his daughter but that's about it.
@jamiered71025 күн бұрын
@@antiratrace nah he killed himself and you're delusional
@GFEBMX14 күн бұрын
melvins legacy far outweighs nirvanas
@gothorn275813 күн бұрын
Lol no. Other than 15 people in the Seattle underground music scene, no one really know them.
@SlushBoxJunikee15 күн бұрын
Are they even known for anything else besides nirvana?
@sterlingmarshel629915 күн бұрын
melvins weren't original enough, its that simple. Nirvana had the "it" factor and Melvin didn't.
@T.Maximus15 күн бұрын
@@RestrainingHollywood speak for yourself and quit liking your own comment. Lame
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
@@T.Maximuslol.
@Arnatta33612 күн бұрын
i prefer bleach
@weregonnafightthegoodfight33410 күн бұрын
Cringe thumbnail
@israel884712 күн бұрын
Nobody would have even heard of the Melvin’s if not for Kurt. Some have IT some don’t, the Melvin’s don’t.
@thebigbopper600013 күн бұрын
Buzz was so worried about staying true to the underground then why did he tour with nirvana? Why would he let Kurt get them a major label deal and try to produce their album? lol Buzz needs to be honest with himself and admit he wanted fame just as much as the next starving grunge band from Washington. Kurt was just brave enough to except the backlash and go after it, but he quickly found out it wasn't all he thought it would be. The reason Kurt and Buzz's friendship dissolved was the same reason alot of Kurt's friends turned on him, nobody liked his wife and Buzz told this to Kurt but he had just married her and was having a baby with her so he didn't wanna hear the truth. By late '93 he realized these friends were actually right but now he was in too deep and it ended up costing him his life.
@x-rayvision380215 күн бұрын
They were no where ad good as nirvana. I hate even the comparison
@OvenAnaconda14 күн бұрын
this is such a cringe poorly researched video
@yvettestar200014 күн бұрын
Obviously everyone liked Nirvana back then for a reason. I don't know what the Melvin's expected from Kurt other than the lead singer was jealous cause he didn't turn out to be as famous or famous at all for that matter.
@aunch312 күн бұрын
Buzz strikes me as a hater
@stephenkpbyrne15 күн бұрын
Love Buzz by NIRVANA is literally about Buzz Osbourne, I'm pretty sure Kurt had a soft spot for the Melvin's and admired them a lot
@simonbradley52415 күн бұрын
Love buzz is a cover song
@AD-BC-8415 күн бұрын
Nirvana didn't even write Love Buzz
@roccogiampietro483015 күн бұрын
Shocking Blue wrote love buzz.
@szuieka15 күн бұрын
me when I purposely spread misinformations on the internet
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
Yes I believe buzz wrote the sitar interlude. Hm. Indeed.
@kentex828 күн бұрын
When the roadie has the talent that the band he’s working for doesn’t
@claydecoursey233915 күн бұрын
They got left behind because they weren't that good.
@MrRatastic13 күн бұрын
The Melvin’s just don’t have the same appeal as Nirvana- Buzz, seems like a pretentious and bitter AH, regularly bad talking Cobain’s success- And just comes off jealous and ungrateful as Nirvana tried to promote their childhood hero and friend- music is subjective but People who say the Melvin’s were better are generally trying to be better by liking some obscure crap to be different to the crowd
@porkypile10 күн бұрын
Kurt was probably a real douche bag, drugs just amplified his bad sides.
@solearesoul15 күн бұрын
I could never get into the Melvins. I tried. They just sound like a Metallica rip off to me.
@wormskull245415 күн бұрын
Is Metallica literally the only band you ever heard before hearing The Melvins?? They sound absolutely nothing like them.
@solearesoul15 күн бұрын
@@wormskull2454 they definitely sound metal. Which I’m just not that keen on. And yes, much of Houdini reminded me of Metallica.
@johngoldsworthy713514 күн бұрын
Melvin’s are 100x better than Metallica
@rmv919412 күн бұрын
Wow, you have to listen to more heavy music if that's your conclusion. Not hating... is just... they are pretty different.
@b3014003ric14 күн бұрын
melvens are a much more talented band😊
@marissac87014 күн бұрын
They rewrite the same song. Name it something goofy. Thats about it.
@jbirdapparel14 күн бұрын
WTF?
@Theeletricminers15 күн бұрын
He wasn't a Melvins roodie, Buzz has already denied that, saying he was too weak to carry any instrument lol
@T.Maximus15 күн бұрын
How did he hold his own gutair?
@ducksrus7014 күн бұрын
Get the name of the band right ,,,Crapvana
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
Duh. Huh. Okay. Crapvana. Fixed it. Duh.
@Astrophobia8814 күн бұрын
Going to take a wild guess at your age with comments like that! Going to guess.... 9?
@ducksrus7014 күн бұрын
@Astrophobia88 your right at least at 9 I know crap music when I hear it
@JokersNtheOddball14 күн бұрын
@ducksrus70 well, I am the world's most foremost expert in the unestablished field of the psychology of sound. You have a problem hearing. I mean the way you hear music is influenced by something that prevents you from understanding yourself.