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How MotoGP Riders Are Taking Body Position to New EXTREMES

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Life at Lean

Life at Lean

Күн бұрын

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@LifeatLean
@LifeatLean Ай бұрын
Hi gang! Yes... this is a reupload. There was part of the original video I wasn't happy with because of a mistake in my research, so I've tweaked it and posted it again. Enjoy!
@damirradovic9116
@damirradovic9116 Ай бұрын
And here I am thinking I'm going crazy cuz I know I watched this yesterday XD
@TheFreeguy12
@TheFreeguy12 Ай бұрын
It takes a great person to admit their mistakes, and even more so to rerecord and post rather than just add a little comment on the original. Well done
@eeeeeek
@eeeeeek Ай бұрын
chad
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo Ай бұрын
You did like the michelin 2ct a few years ago, did you find any you liking better, what is your top 3 and does the 2ct still up in the top?
@Superjabbs
@Superjabbs Ай бұрын
I love the honesty 🤘🤘
@black350Z
@black350Z Ай бұрын
I did one track day so far on my RSV4. It was one of the most physically intense things I've done. I was absolutely wasted at the end of the day. I actually left early because I knew I was too fatigued and didn't want to crash. And I wasn't doing anything close to what the GP riders do. It blows my mind how these guys are able to do a full race at their level.
@duanehunter1212
@duanehunter1212 Ай бұрын
Same, I had an R1 that had been tuned and raced at the Isle of Man TT. I'd been riding it for a year or so and took it out on a track day, after 7-8 laps I had to go back to the pits. For me it was a little bit more mental than physical, the approach speeds into a corner that you have , on a bike that can accelerate so quickly and stop so f'n fast was more than my brain could accept at the time. And that is nothing like MotoGP.
@alixvandurand
@alixvandurand Ай бұрын
Congratulations on your first track day brother! It really is incredibly physically strenuous, more so than most people realize. I wear a heart monitor when I ride and I routinely go into the 180s during a session and have even gone as high as 200bpm.
@bahagen
@bahagen Ай бұрын
I too had a similar experience on my Tuono V4 Factory at COTA....wasted by the end of the day 😂
@jtorc
@jtorc Ай бұрын
I'm 57, I often don't stay for the last session on a track day. Too tired. I'm on a Fireblade.
@stevel6939
@stevel6939 28 күн бұрын
I used to race superbikes and after a 6 hour endurance race I couldn't lift my leg up to step up on the curb, the next morning, my legs would hurt so bad. But crazy fun. 😊
@annastebelskyj580
@annastebelskyj580 Ай бұрын
I knew Moto GP was wild, but having a breakdown like this really hammers home that these people *are* athletes. Just since I started taking my riding more seriously last year, I've had to increase my fitness to be more effective. Before the season started this year, I was doing squats and lunges with my kid on my back in preparation. I honestly don't know any other women who can rep 10 squats with a 60lb child attached, but it means my body actually has the capability to do the things I tell it to do. Now that I'm trying out more advanced techniques, I notice the difference!
@paul8161
@paul8161 Ай бұрын
Sounds like you're doing really well with your training, and your child gets a free ride too.😂
@machobunny1
@machobunny1 16 күн бұрын
Every year, in every sport from skate boards to football to motorcycle racing to BMX to every olympic sport and all the newer ones, we see human beings doing things that are more and more utterly unimaginable. Is there a limit? Are we seeing some kind of evolution occuring in a very short time? Of course the equipment gets better, but...the humans using it are simlpy doing stuff no one dreamed of 30 years ago. It is phenomenal.
@brianfreeman8290
@brianfreeman8290 8 күн бұрын
FASCINATING! I'm a car guy, F1 and BTCC, but I shall start to pay more attention to MotoGP as a result of watching this.
@Superjabbs
@Superjabbs Ай бұрын
I did a few track days on my Monster 1200S. It was an amazing experience, and holy fook, it was exhausting. I enjoyed it so much I bought a Daytona 675R track bike. Even the smaller bike is bloody exhausting. The next day Im like a vegetable at home. Anyone that thinks riding a bike on the limit is not a physically demanding sport, have absolutely no idea what they are talking about
@Torqu3e
@Torqu3e Ай бұрын
I recently raced for the first time and used the exhale, head drop at exit to push the bike away to get that extra bit of drive for lining up a pass into T1. Of course I am nowhere near a pro rider and could probably have just pinned the throttle and come out fine but the mental comfort of the fact that the rear has a bit of a more fighting chance since its on the fatter part was worth it. Have learnt so much from your channel over the years, thank you for continuing to make great content!
@leward
@leward Ай бұрын
I remember when Rossi first started using the leg dangle technique, people thought it was a defensive move to block riders from coming up the inside.
@international-arms-dealer
@international-arms-dealer 20 күн бұрын
interesting.. that wouldn't occur to me; seems like a leg hanging out wouldn't really do much to keep me out of a particular line; I'd just push it out of my way, LOL
@Kraken9911
@Kraken9911 17 күн бұрын
I was riding back in the 2000s when Rossi was first doing it. It was hilarious watching people on the street all start doing it to look cool.
@smaller_cathedrals
@smaller_cathedrals 15 күн бұрын
I absolutely appreciate how you repeatedly emphasized that these are THE VERY BEST riders out there, and not pull some stupid nonsense like, "learn from MotoGP riders to improve your track day performance", or "how to become a better rider by incorporating these techniques."
@marvelaturraz5405
@marvelaturraz5405 Ай бұрын
I think a fundamental mistake of analysis happens at 1:45. Unless I'm mistaken, the purported forces which are stated fail to factor the opposing and thus counteracting force of wind resistance upon the rider's upper body. To what degree that occurs varies, but it is a primary factor involved in order to derive the actual net forces experienced by the rider. It is still very physically and mentally demanding, but the numbers stated in this video are probably not humanly possible, if they were accurate.
@BenMcghie
@BenMcghie Ай бұрын
Awesome video! I knew they were fit, but adding some numbers to it really helps me get a sense of how hard they are working. This is truly an extreme sport. Crazy levels of skill to ride the bike in the first place (smoothly, with the power) but it seems like the MotoGP class just cranks the forces up and up and up. I can't begin to imagine what it feels like to pop your chest up into a 320kph wind while also trying not to pull a stoppie, and also balance that against 2x your body weight going into your arms while you try to squeeze a bike with one leg. And then to somehow smoothly transition to 45+deg of lean and touch your elbow to the ground. Aliens indeed.
@harrymills2770
@harrymills2770 Ай бұрын
Shoot. That don't look hard. But seriously, I had no idea - and still have no idea - what goes into this kind of racing. Very impressive. And very impressive athletes.
@rexpayne7836
@rexpayne7836 21 күн бұрын
I'm 63yo, how things have changed. Their constantly getting better and better. I'm excited to see the developments year after year. 🇦🇺 👍 😊
@okdok3742
@okdok3742 Ай бұрын
those tires r ridiculous. the people behind overall tire developement do not get enough credit.
@samuelgarrod8327
@samuelgarrod8327 25 күн бұрын
They're probably more interested in the large amount of cash they are paid.
@deepskywishingwell2602
@deepskywishingwell2602 7 күн бұрын
Loved the video, I’m not a sport bike rider, a cruiser bike owner. But, I love to watch superbike races. Really enjoyed your explanation of body position with racers. It gives better understanding when you watch races. I must admit I miss the old races where it seemed more effortless for racers to glide thru corners at high speeds. My age has watched many changes in all forms of bike racing and riding. Thanks for your work.
@Brett4517
@Brett4517 Ай бұрын
Glad to see you posting again! Welcome back!
@danogden1623
@danogden1623 Ай бұрын
great stuff. Thank you. Simple and concise.
@lefterisbampaidis5446
@lefterisbampaidis5446 24 күн бұрын
About fitness. John McGuinness is the best example. Never trained. Beer and cigarette for breakfast. Sits 3rd in the all-time win list of the Isle of Man TT.
@Binny_Bomba
@Binny_Bomba 13 күн бұрын
All I can say is….. Damn……… These guys have absolutely insane levels of skill….
@Xaunoki
@Xaunoki Ай бұрын
Absolutely incredible! These guys are awesome!
@dlux703
@dlux703 Ай бұрын
I have always speculated that if you can hang further off the bike, you can keep the bike more upright and on a potentially larger tire patch for better grip and stability. Putting that into practice takes a toll on the core muscles and lots of repetition to get consistent, I'm assuming.
@brianvarnes4803
@brianvarnes4803 26 күн бұрын
Greetings, 9-7-07, I was rear ended while on a zx-9 that i dont recall owning. Its hard to find sportbike content, so thank you, sir
@rsoul7282
@rsoul7282 16 күн бұрын
I don’t care what anyone says, these are the among the bravest and most talented athletes on the planet.
@sebald86
@sebald86 Ай бұрын
Thank you for your channel. It is one of the best channels I now. It helps me so much developing my riding on the track, to be a better rider and to understand what I am doing, and what I have to do to become better. Thank you so much for your work, I love your channel.
@jmx318
@jmx318 29 күн бұрын
Jorge Martin has incredible body positioning, so good to watch
@mk1st
@mk1st 26 күн бұрын
The leg dangle looks ridiculous but, whatever works. Thanks for the explanation.
@dizzywow
@dizzywow 24 күн бұрын
You can say that again. Ridiculous.
@closedcasketcustoms
@closedcasketcustoms 26 күн бұрын
The extreme body position hanging off in the corner's helps stall the air and increase air pressure over the high side of the bike creating more down force. Combined with the updated side aero on the bikes, this is very efficient. We never really thought aero would be effective in turns to the degree it is today. Very impressive stuff.
@Mosgaard
@Mosgaard Ай бұрын
Don't know why I'm watching this while sporting the biggest chicken strips
@johnharris3335
@johnharris3335 25 күн бұрын
😂😂 won’t be that way for long!
@Ebony-yy3dr
@Ebony-yy3dr 23 күн бұрын
i love the way you present your ideas, so clear and impactful!
@LCBBuilders
@LCBBuilders 26 күн бұрын
Great video. Hustling my old ZX7r requires this sort of strength and commitment just to go a couple of miles!!
@jshumphress13
@jshumphress13 Ай бұрын
I’m no Rossi. I’m 36 and ride a ‘18 SV650. When I think I’m going low and looking cool in a corner, I later get home and see I’ve got nearly an inch on each side of the rear tire. It’s got sticky tires I put on, but I still can’t bring myself to extract that much performance on the street. I really wish there was a track near me. I’m not trying to low side or high side on a public road so I play it safe with lean angle. I’m not ashamed of my “chicken strips”. The extra tire is there in case of an emergency.
@lad4694
@lad4694 25 күн бұрын
In case of an emergency😂😂😂😂🔥
@valebliz
@valebliz 22 күн бұрын
Nah.
@JennaCorbett
@JennaCorbett 27 күн бұрын
Thankyou for the great, clear, concise explanation of what the riders are dealing with when cornering as amazingly as they now do! And entire physical demand! As someone who enjoys watching, a whole nother level of appreciation for them all! 😊🧡🏍
@buzzonbikes
@buzzonbikes Ай бұрын
Great insights, presented in great fashion!
@zeus-mt7wx
@zeus-mt7wx 21 күн бұрын
The riders couldn’t do 1/2 this stuff, if the bikes didn’t have all the new aero pkg crap on them. In the MGP world, they are going through the tech explosion of next level handling , as did F1 & WRC did not too long ago. It’s interesting how some tech guys find new ways to go ‘ faster ‘.
@unionrdr
@unionrdr Ай бұрын
Don't forget Kenny Roberts! He invented the " extreme Leaning" or " knee draggin". I remember watchin' him in the 70's and 80's.
@byunism
@byunism 8 күн бұрын
Feels like I'm hanging off the bike on a track day... until I see the pictures. Still scary as hell even at hobby speeds.
@magellanicspaceclouds
@magellanicspaceclouds 28 күн бұрын
One of the best moto channels on KZfaq. Hands down.
@miguelduhamel3394
@miguelduhamel3394 22 күн бұрын
Absolutely fantastic video ,bravo 🏁 cheers 🍻
@rickfry6031
@rickfry6031 Ай бұрын
Amazing melding of man a machine. Phenomenal capabilities, great subject.
@UnrestrictedIsle
@UnrestrictedIsle 18 күн бұрын
Cracking video - i wonder how much the headwind helps the rider with braking forces. Obviously the data we have is from accelerometers on the bike, the parachute effect must reduce what the rider deals with... but by how much?
@MalShakur
@MalShakur Ай бұрын
When I did sprint races with CCS, I was always glad it was over after 8 laps. You have to be in incredible shape to ride your bike hard for damn near an hour, even if you're a much less talented amateur racer like I was.
@denislemelin7653
@denislemelin7653 Ай бұрын
Ahh very exciting to see the boys shouldering it around the corners , I believe they call it evolution !
@grahamdeakin-howarth3090
@grahamdeakin-howarth3090 Ай бұрын
Learned a lot and enjoyed the video. Thankyou
@dirkmoolman
@dirkmoolman 16 күн бұрын
These guys are really fit !!!
@ashtonmarrero7932
@ashtonmarrero7932 24 күн бұрын
I’ve said this since 1997, people use to think I was doing to much on the bike on highways, with so many cars are becoming fast as bikes, we have no choice to be more physically safe! I learned from MotoGP (watching techniques)…
@gnubbolo
@gnubbolo Ай бұрын
very interesting video, however, the new Ducati and Aprilia aerodynamics allow the bike to bend more than the Honda style (Marquez hera) with the bike upright and the rider completely off the bike. In fact, an almost classic rider like Bagnaia is going very fast compared to more "acrobatic" riders.
@alexanderkoech
@alexanderkoech Ай бұрын
Watch Pedro Acosta when he goes so low in corners to block off opponents but his tyre degradation is happens quick. Peco is world champ because he knows how to manage this.
@jamesbolling6681
@jamesbolling6681 19 күн бұрын
These guys are Crazy !
@user-eo5ju9fg6m
@user-eo5ju9fg6m 9 күн бұрын
I LOVE MOTOGP!!!!!
@Sugarglider1
@Sugarglider1 28 күн бұрын
This is truly unbelievable…… still shaking my head…..how can they do that ?
@toozydude2
@toozydude2 23 күн бұрын
Sure they are resisting the braking G forces, but there is also wind pushing back on them, so its not as much as you calculated...
@KeithMcHenry-sn9hg
@KeithMcHenry-sn9hg Ай бұрын
Spectators when they come to watch this kind of race and they don't realize how physical it is and demanding with very good techniques it's getting better and better racing these guys are great racers 🏁
@cbrsawyer
@cbrsawyer Ай бұрын
Excellent, concise, and informative. Thank you for making this.
@stefanhansen5882
@stefanhansen5882 5 күн бұрын
Super interesting! As a new rider, should I move my body to the side when cornering on the street, or simply lean the bike? Thanks.
@danfredrick4585
@danfredrick4585 Ай бұрын
I used all of these techniques to beat 9 time Canadian national champion Steve Dick, and American champion Gary Nixon, (except the leg dangle) Spot on.
@ethereous
@ethereous Ай бұрын
What a cool video. Great stuff, man.
@Fr0sht3d
@Fr0sht3d 22 күн бұрын
This is the only motorsports that should be in the olymipics
@yamahaevo
@yamahaevo Ай бұрын
You did like the michelin 2ct a few years ago, did you find any you liking better, what is your top 3 and does the 2ct still up in the top of the better ones? By the way, thank you for the videos, watching about 10 and writing the most importent things down on a paper and bring it to the learning courses!
@arsenishylau3908
@arsenishylau3908 Ай бұрын
Awesome video, as always!
@ratkutti
@ratkutti Ай бұрын
The previous version was also perfect IMO, there was no need for this revision, but you do you; thank you for good content.
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains
@WestbrickFansGotNoBrains Ай бұрын
finally. people always misunderstand leaning vs hanging off the bike, they think it's the same thing but it's actually opposite 1. so they can accelerate faster out of corner while keeping the bike more upright while body hang offs the bike 2. To get the bike to turn more when attacking a corner. summary, you hang off the bike more so you can lean less to turn the bike, especially good when exiting. 7:53 is an example. enea hangs so far off.
@andrewprosd3472
@andrewprosd3472 Ай бұрын
Great video!
@justicemoody
@justicemoody Ай бұрын
Seriously...... WoW!
@crsteixeira1865
@crsteixeira1865 Ай бұрын
great thank you💪💪💪💪
@bradleymccall9871
@bradleymccall9871 21 күн бұрын
I was under the impression that they dangled their leg to help keep their weight on their outside rear set.
@mayxuclienphuong9645
@mayxuclienphuong9645 Ай бұрын
❤❤❤ Hello my new friend ❤❤❤Thank you for sharing the great video❤
@enricocirne
@enricocirne Ай бұрын
Just noticed: when they dangle their legs, they do not brake with the back wheel? So they do just break with theire front wheel?
@Mirage2000H
@Mirage2000H Ай бұрын
Yes, the rear tire gets offloaded so much under hard braking that there wouldn't be much braking effort from the rear anyway.
@compt3ck
@compt3ck Ай бұрын
I raced for years and the only time I would touch the rear brake was on exit of a corner to control wheel spin which wasn't very often. This was around the time traction control was becoming common so now there's not much use for a rear brake. Some of the pros say they use a little to rotate the bike but I think that's pretty rare. Under hard braking the rear tire has little to no weight on it.
@elcookiemonsteru
@elcookiemonsteru Ай бұрын
Thank you for not using AI voice! How a fkn hate those cursed videos! :D
@PriyanshuKumar-gh2uh
@PriyanshuKumar-gh2uh Ай бұрын
Make vedio on moto gp rider fitness training
@PriyanshuKumar-gh2uh
@PriyanshuKumar-gh2uh Ай бұрын
Love you brother 🕉️🇮🇳 make more vedio
@sangitapol7119
@sangitapol7119 Ай бұрын
Re-upload!! Why? Regardless Love it
@BernardHunt-vh7ii
@BernardHunt-vh7ii 24 күн бұрын
Nice
@cutndry4165
@cutndry4165 27 күн бұрын
I'm an old motocross guy. I sold my crotch rocket in 92. That's why I'm here to send this message. 😊
@valebliz
@valebliz 22 күн бұрын
Meaning?
@DaveBegotka
@DaveBegotka Ай бұрын
I raced unlimited superbike in the 90's.....cool story....
@steviecbf
@steviecbf Ай бұрын
great video. i cant believe how many low side saves we see now because of how far they are off the bike in the corners, great reactions and strength to push the bike back onto the tyre.
@Spiegelradtransformation
@Spiegelradtransformation 9 сағат бұрын
7:03 What is basic ?
@djctoafn
@djctoafn 8 күн бұрын
They are just bonkers
@Ed-ty1kr
@Ed-ty1kr 8 күн бұрын
Pretty soon they will have AI actuated gyrostabalized wing surfaces that keep the machine planted in these manuevers. The bike will literally look like a fly by wire jet flicking its control surfaces back and forth, making small adjustment to keep the machine stable. And why not, we all have a close relationship with the air moving over bodies and cars have been doing it for decades now.
@gc2696
@gc2696 4 күн бұрын
Because riders who reach the top these days are smaller & lighter than those in the past ?
@jtorc
@jtorc Ай бұрын
So you're saying that at 57, my window of getting a MotoGP ride is closing, even at Honda? 🤔😅
@p.munster9209
@p.munster9209 28 күн бұрын
En toch, had ik deze graag eens een poosje gehad. Ontwerp is best gaaf.
@yspegel
@yspegel Ай бұрын
Logic aerodynamics, the more straight you keep the bike, the more downwards, not sidewards the air pressure will push the bike. Obviously you want it to be downward.
@EricEanes
@EricEanes Күн бұрын
The Younger guys are so "Advanced," in everything these Days !
@Manny32V
@Manny32V 21 күн бұрын
Aero era has made moto gp ridiculous
@brq838
@brq838 15 күн бұрын
disclaimer: don’t try anything on this on a legal road bike.
@alexandrubaginean7369
@alexandrubaginean7369 3 күн бұрын
ask marquez
@piotrplewa1889
@piotrplewa1889 24 күн бұрын
"Dont overexxagerate" Those mfs
@Abgyus76
@Abgyus76 21 күн бұрын
Sehebat mana pun cara tunggangan pelumba moto Gp masih lagi tidak dapat menandingi kehebatan pelumba Isle Of Man TT. Pelumba moto Isle Of Man TT boleh berlumba di litar moto Gp. Tetapi pelumba moto Gp belum tentu ada yang berani berlumba dilitar Isle Of Man TT😁
@daxbertumen8090
@daxbertumen8090 6 күн бұрын
it should be less considering an 80kg rider is actually overweight. rossi had to stay very slim as he is tall. 70kg tops, the lesser the better.
@liamstaffordd
@liamstaffordd Ай бұрын
rossi won 9 titles with that riding style so how was it wrong 😂
@TheLudojay
@TheLudojay 26 күн бұрын
I am a bit sceptical about riders taking 'V shaped' lines. I wonder if the title is a misnomer & they are actually doing something else. I see no evidence of V lines watching laps. From your diagram of the V line through the bend, the rider would have to turn on a very tight radius indeed mid-corner that would have to be relatively slow not to outdo tyre grip. I wonder if riders are actually taking tighter lines than before. This would be on a smaller radius where they turn in later. Top speed through the curve is slower than with a wide, sweeping line but it allows full gas sooner (surely the main goal) & the bike follows a constant radius arc without the need for steering input mid-corner...
@spartanpatriot3163
@spartanpatriot3163 Ай бұрын
Meh, J. P. Ruglrey was dragging elbows back in the late 90's on 250's
@Craig52-zq1bt
@Craig52-zq1bt Ай бұрын
The Doctor, Valentino Rossi, started hanging a leg out, just a little, to see if others copied him. They did and exaggerated it to the silliness you see today.
@EXPLORADVEN
@EXPLORADVEN Ай бұрын
👌👌👌
@atomicorang
@atomicorang 23 күн бұрын
They need to change the rules. Riders are disqualified if not scraping helmet the entire event.
@mojcaa.9647
@mojcaa.9647 Ай бұрын
✔👍
@user-mn3nv4sm5p
@user-mn3nv4sm5p Ай бұрын
第六条是什么意思,第六条没懂
@kevinlegrande8192
@kevinlegrande8192 Ай бұрын
So it sounds like you're dismissing the 500GP riders? Thay actually rode dragons without any electronic aids to save them. Have you ridden a fast 2-stroke around a race track? Completely a different level.
@ErnieSesameStreet
@ErnieSesameStreet 3 күн бұрын
It is very dangerous. What is the spirit of sport compare to winning over dangerous.
@Binny_Bomba
@Binny_Bomba 21 күн бұрын
Maaaan these guys are putting their trust in perfectly engineered tracks and $10,000 tires…… no need to even talk about their technique unless you’re racing with a budget… A big budget…. It’s like trying to mimic GT3 cars in your Honda civic on your crappy road….
@eduardoolivares9653
@eduardoolivares9653 Ай бұрын
I want to know how Joan Mir was champion … and in a Suzuki 😂
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