I reposted this here. ---> Tall Women die more often alone, Tall Women have fewer children or more often no children, Tall Women have fewer relationships with Men, Tall Women have less Sex, Tall Women are more depressed, all this because a Tall Woman is waiting for a Tall Man; but Tall Men want Short Women not Tall Women. So, Tall Women are themselves their bane of their existence. Now...this next sentence is hard as I forget what this is called, but the crank/angle in a Woman's neck is important, at a certain age this is the angle She had to tilt her head up to look at her Father, maybe when She was 4-5 years old. As an adult; this is what She instinctively is looking for, it usually tends then to be a 6'2"-5" Man. So, in a World where all this is true, Tall Women pass on Men shorter than them; and without knowing; they die a little each time.

I'm 5'7 and never had a woman say anything to me about height and I've had far too many relationships

@@Amfortas Yeah, I only had the one woman specifically say I was too short (and she ended up marrying a basketball player). Other than that, it's never been an issue.

​@@AmfortasWhere you live makes a huge difference. I'm 5'7" as well and it was not a problem in California, but it's a BIG deal in Texas.

I've had the same experience - short women have been far more vocal about wanting tall men than average height women.

I think height does play a factor. I've dated mostly girls a bit shorter to shorter than me. But on one date, a girl wore heels and she was a bit taller than me and she apologized about it.

Yep and I see men blaming women for all modern dating problems but I try to tell these guys that men have caused big problems too. The simps have hurt things in a big way. I just was on another social media site and a very average looking 51 year old woman posted a picture of herself and in a few minutes she had 1000s of likes and compliments from simps. There were even a few simps that were wanting to buy her outfits and I just shook my head in disgust .. what’s worse is I don’t think this problem can be fixed

As long as we do so little to help ourselves and so much to contribute to the problem, we have no right to complain.

The modern world simply makes men and women less appealing to each other for LTRs.

💯 % Instagram has ruined women. and pornography has ruined men.

@@brianmeen2158 It’s the men who are to blame. If there were no simps, social media wouldn’t have inflated women’s egos and standards.

Doubt

@@Amfortas don’t care what you think

If you put 5'12" women would probably still think you're too short

@@eat_ze_bugs there is truth in that

I did and immediately got more likes/matches as well

Not true, in my school tall girls and when I say tall I mean around 173-177 date guys that as much as them or just slightly more or even shorter guys.

@@yellowwall3471cause there are only so many chads above 6ft

@lightningbolt4419 its genuine relationships. Height is not the number one thing women look for in a man here in Greece. This 6ft BS is something of an issue in the US as far as I am concerned.

​@@yellowwall3471Yeah but they date and she short guys dont. Who has it worse?

Exactly, tall girl problem is just tall women suffering from Hypergamy. It's not men rejecting them, its them doing what most women of all heights do, limiting their options.

And weight is temporary, height is essentially unchangeable lol

Men don’t care about weight as much as they care about body fat %. Some women especially girls who are into their fitness could weigh more than men simply because of genetic factors. Yet their body fat percentage will be very normal. I dated a girl who’s 5 10 when I’m 6 foot and she probably weighed more than me even tho she had a low body fat percentage (Curvy, plus had very big legs)

Funny enough men don't care about weight that much. We care much more about what that weight is made of and how you wear it

A lot

A lot of men care about weight. Most men don't want to date a woman who is obese or overweight.

No. Only to American women. It’s not a universal thing. Because here, society KEEPS FREAKIN repeating weird things like “tall, dark, and handsome” as some biblical standard. It’s NOT a real thing. It’s made up. Then entire generations in d last few centuries have been repeating that trash to their kids. It’s a virus. Specific to a single culture. It can b remedied, if and only if, people tried to look outside their bubble and realized that there’s a world out there, and there’s immense beauty and incredible ideas/norms out there. 🙄 There’s a reason y nature prefers variety and connections.

Take the Latinapill 🗣️🔥🔥

Yeah dating is relatively easy for most women regardless.

yup, I love how in this podcast they quickly gloss over the male struggles in the beginning but then make up a nonsensical phenomen for tall females which doesnt even exist and if it does is actually just a result of many tall women just needing even taller guys. It's self inflicted.

Meh i think its a but more nuanced than that

@@loverofhumanity Tall girls do have some difficulty with dating, but it is way overblown. Some men are insecure about dating taller women and women often have a psychological barrier about being too tall. These can both affect their potential options although they have it easier than guys who are too short, >6'.

I'm 6'0 and sometimes I feel like even that doesn't cut it these days anymore. Never mind that I'm taller than 97% of women and 85% of men in my country.

Clown world

So you picked her up from the kerb? I mean how did you never get out of your car?

that's terrible. its insane how women can do that but when its about weight, if u even MENTION weight ur instantly evil and mysoganistic. like image u saw a girl you were going out with, and she had a condition so no matter what she did she couldn't loose the weight, and u still said, "Wow... your really fat." even though she COULDNT change it.

@@BWater-yq3jx I pulled up to her house, texted 'Im here', and she came out and got in passenger. We were actually supposed to head straight to the bar, but instead she just started talking to me and we found a shady spot and chilled for an hour. Then we picked up some green and she got out and bought it and came back. So yeah all in all I didn't actually step out my side for a few hours

@@BWater-yq3jx I pulled up to her house, texted 'Im here', and she came out and got in passenger. We were actually supposed to head straight to the bar, but instead she just started talking to me and we found a shady spot and chilled for an hour. Then we picked up some green and she got out and bought it and came back. So yeah all in all I didn't actually step out my side for a few hours

Jesus loves you 💞

If Jesus loved short men, He wouldn't have made them short.

@@jackhowe6 Our lives are short, the day you were born isn't so far away from the present, and neither will your death. Materialistic values on earth are temporary, but understanding of sacrifice of Jesus warrants a reward that lasts for an eternity.

​@@turtle-ot2qcjust stop.

@@jurassicthunder I'm sorry that you're hurt, but now that I mention it, you'll probably remember this memory and I hope I can engrain it into your head. If you die without God's grace, then you will reap immense pain. Have a blessed day ❤️

Get rid of her, honestly.

She has no respect for you if she kept on emasculating you like that.

There is no such thing as "height gene"...

​​@@rafaelmartinelli9377of course there is, what are you smoking? Of the 11 men across three generations on my moms side one is 5'8", one is 6'0" and the other 9 are between 6'3"-6'6". You dont randomly get 9 people in the 99th percentile in one family, height is absolutely heritable.

@@flacjacket No its not, genetics is one of several other factors that determine an individual’s height. My cousin's parents are below average in terms of height, and he ended up being almost the double of their size, and i saw this happen to several other people. I suggest you stop consuming this "red pill" trash and study a little.

Long story short: Yes

@@chrisallwhite .......you got the pun, right?

@@naisyjohnsit was a good pookie

Long answer: Yes it does, but who cares

Shorter answer: no

Won't happen. Stay mad lol

@alexisc7565 we know it won’t happen cause that would require women to be accountable. Tisk tisk sweetheart.

No problems

@@garydossett6688 It also requires men to hold women accountable, which wont happen.

It's probably not a direct prejudice but a vicious or virtuous cycle. The child that grows up tall gets rewarded, encouraged, and has advantages for opportunities which leads to further opportunities and advantages. The opposite being true for exceptionally short people. This is a systemic part of the culture. This has lead to a strong correlation that height greatly predicts the winner of presidential races. Which has led some candidates, possibly Desantis, to wear lifts and special shoes.

It's nature. A lion doesn't have to prove it's a lion. As a very tall guy, I don't have anything to prove besides my ability to fit in small spaces. There isn't much I can't learn that requires physical skills, I don't ever have to worry about someone picking a fight with me, and I'm naturally decent at public speaking due to thousands of strangers asking me how tall I am each year and even more than that staring at me everywhere I go. Tall w/ short is the ultimate "opposites attract". My fiancé and I have a 21" height difference. I always felt odd walking with a really tall girl. I think it's amazing that they are tall but it's never been for me.

@@New_Identity out of interest, how tall?

​@BenjaminBadbrother Yeah it's just a positive feedback loop.

@@RibeyesteakSachertorte 6'9

Heck yes! Literally had this discussion with my wife the other day! I'm 6'2" and I stand with my ShortKings!

lol, we found the tops!

@@TheAmericanAmerican How did she respond?

@@richiejones1878 She thought it was a valid comparison.

“The same” meaning people who value looks?

​@@freeottis😅 life lesson

@@freeottis it's human nature to value looks lol

Based answer.

People want looks not smart competent well rounded people. Did you not think about that before typing?

calling urself a "short king" is where u start losing

@@perzonne6302how so? I think males could definitely do with some positivity and mutual affirmation

@@mark9294 that's not positivity. That's actually a negative patronizing label. I genuinely find it weird when people use that label. As if your calling someone not a real king. No he's not a king, he must have that short attached to him because this is how we see him.

I agree; short isn’t something to really be proud of like being fat. Women use the bbw, to be delusional. Men shouldn’t be delusional . being short is unfortunate but also a trial in life a strong man can flourish in being.

@@mark9294 if you keep that up all you'll have is positive affirmation from other males😂

Always have been about a lot of things

its not not what the mainstream wants to hear thats why they are shamed. Man without hope and purpose are the most dangerous man for society so they need to keep the narrative that height doesnt matter.

Yeah because of scientists who actually study the topic lol but people still deny a lot of the stuff even though data supports the incel theories :D

This is exactly the crazy thing. The biggest cutoff criterium is a arbitrary round number…. In most of europe the biggest cutoff is 180cm and in US it is 6ft. While in many eiropean countries the average height is more than in the US.

Well said

6’3 and have never used a dating app (probably never will), but if I did I wouldn’t share this information because I wouldn’t want to attract superficial women who care about height.

@@greatcesari bro you think you're not attracting women superficially through your height in real life lol even more so brother

@@greatcesarisorry bro but this doesn’t make sense, unless you completely like a woman based off solely personality. I mean it’s like being super good looking and saying I’m not posting my face bc i don’t want people to want me for my face

More fun facts: in the western half of the US, men are taller than East of the Mississippi River. In my home state of Utah, the average male height is just under 5'11''!

@@stevecooper7883 same i live in minnesota and the average height here for young men spesifically (age 18 to 25) is 5,11.

College educated women initiate divorce more often than non college educated women.

@@stevecooper7883east coast has more Southern European lineage so that makes sense

Exactly. It's just a preference, but not a requirement. I can't tell you how many guys I see with beautiful women who are considerably shorter than me, and I'm a little over 5'10". If it was that strict, none of these guys would have girlfriends or wives, let alone attractive ones with great personalities. In real life, many other factors can outweigh a lack of tallness (and please, it's not just wealth, although sure it helps; work on everything else first, get some dating experience, and then tell me all they're looking for is height and wealth). It's similar to how we all prefer women with say, a more generous posterior or bust, or a beautiful face, but plenty of us would be willing to date a thinner girl, or even a girl who's pretty but isn't stunning (I can't tell you how many times I've found a girl beautiful who would not make the cut for a modeling gig, but I still found her very pretty; they're not ugly, just not stunning - you know the phenomenon I'm talking about brother,), if she had a lot of other qualities we valued, and it happens every day. It's the same for women in my experience. They don't value the same things we do mind you, but they're willing to make a trade off for other qualities they want. Build yourself up in those areas, make yourself valuable, and height won't prevent you from finding someone to share your life with, not working on those other factors will. Just look around and tell me with a straight face that shorter than average men can't be with great women, and that all women only get romantically involved with 6 foot rich guys. Exactly.

Because we still hope it’s not true for some reason

@freeottis women want to feel protected by their man, it's not rocket science 🙄

What we should be asking is, why do so many refuse to accept it?

every day another boy turns 18 and needs to learn this

You’re taller than average so you don’t know what it’s like

@@freeottisI’m 5’6 and even I can empathize with him dude. I get turned down because I’m short, that’s fine. But when someone likes me, I’m confident they like me for me. He has to deal with shallow women who may only be interested in his height, and people are much more than that.

@@freeottis Right, but it doesn't mean I have to entertain a woman's idea of meeting a minimum preferable height. Even if I was short or average, this is the same mindset I'd have.

@@themacocko6311 Height is out of one's control; weight largely isn't.

Good luck finding one that doesn't care if you're 5'3

Absolutely. 6'-1" typed in your profile and displayed in tiny font on a 4" screen is a whole lot different than 6'-1" standing two feet in front of the girl.

Agree; 5'11" IRL is quite tall, but even that's discriminated against online.

Short King pulls for a reason. Personality transcends everything.

No difference between real life and online lol women are overwhelmingly attracted to taller men

I have a friend that literally told me that she only wants someone 6 ft or taller.

😊😊😊

And then you see a 5’1 girl with a 6’4 guy and think, “man….of all the ones you picked” lol.

I'm 5'6, but I've dated girls from 5'2 to 5'10. Having personality can help, but having insecurity definitely hurts

The sad part is short women often subconsciously crave tall men to compensate for their short genes.

Sorry can I ask how tall you are? 😁 as in when would a guy call himself short

So is the son shorter than his mom? That'd be super interesting to see because I read somewhere that it's biologically very rare for a son to be shorter than his mom unless he was extremely malnourished growing up or he had a growth disorder or something.

Poor son, hopefully he grows up.

R.I.P to the son

"She never considered it an issue, thankfully." When your daughter's son starts to find himself constantly rejected and it starts to effect him emotionally, she will realize it is an issue.

Thays an outlier. 5 ft 4 is very short.

True.

Women on dating apps swipe left and right the vast majority of the time based on facial attractiveness. Sure, some women will not match a dude because he is not 6 feet, but that is a small percentage of women.. Dudes with attractive faces also have a way better chance of that women actually meeting him and taking it serious... Average face guys that list themselves as 6'4 and receive matches may talk with the women for a bit, but the woman is way more likely to be hesitant to actually meet him

Most women set their height filter at 6', so they wouldn't even see the face of a man under that height.

How about the guys who do have success on dating apps?

@@gj9157You mean the 28-30 year old 6’2 chad models that are .05% of the population? Sure they will have it easy on dating apps

Agree, I did the same thing for the same reason: the confidence and his ability to set boundaries taught me so much. ❤

Can't out win a confident tall guy though.

​@@gj9157Can with a lesser facially attractive taller guy tho

BS

The fact that bumble, an app that prioritizes women’s wants and needs (or at least claims to), mandated that users list their height says all you need to know

@@AngelofJustice412 yeah, I deleted it several years ago Also, I remember many years ago on bumble males could search for “body types” (eg. Athletic, curvy, etc). But they took that function out and kept height I guess it is an app made for … obese girls that are attracted to guys 6’ or taller 🤷‍♂️

@@themacocko6311 That was true a few years ago but now most women have used dating apps. Once they have, they take all that superficial stuff into the real world. So once they do "Under 6' swipe left" online, they start doing that in the real world.

Im 5'7 my dating app times i was a ghost.

would be hard for me as 5"7 lol

@@Arejen03 I wouldn't even bother with dating apps at that point

BS.

​@@richiejones1878Jesus loves you 💓

5’11 gang burntOrangepill

No kidding, I’ve actually heared in IRL from some, one of them being a particularly beautiful woman who was herself around 5’9 / 5’10 who told that she preferred the proportions of men being on the shorter spectrum - but yeah, those of course are the minority - but then you also have to consider, when women say tall, we often overestimate what they are looking for in real life (and broad shoulder and other features can compensate quite a bit) - only online dating with a focus on numbers is kinda toxic in terms of height preferences

@@JeffreyWongOfficial Sure women like that exist but they are outliers. I think when women say tall they mean 5'11 and up. That is where a noticeable difference from average height (5'9) begins. I dont think that is an overestimation. When most say tall they mean relative to the height of other men not to their own height. I dont think a 5'2 girl would consider a 5'8 or 5'9 man tall even though they have decent height difference. I also think the impact of broad shoulders is overvalued. Its not a make or break trait like height can be and it only really helps taller men. I doubt a short guy with broad shoulders would see any significant boost from it.

@@cseptember6562 as a short 5ft5 guy I have the impression that when I am in really good shape it helps a lot. Still I would prefer to be 5ft10 to being muscular

At a party I (5ft5 )once met a girl who was there with her boyfriend(in an open relationshoip) who was maybe also like 5ft7 ish and she actually hit on me and told me she kinda likes shorter guys and she also tried to kiss me…. And on another occasion one girl in my friendgroup said that she usually goes for shorter guys when we were discussing ex partners and so on

@@cseptember6562 well, there still are plenty of shorter/average height guys with girlfriends. In academia for example you often see intellectual overachievers with beautiful and highly educated women despite them being not exactly overachievers in the height department. So yeah, I think - also for women (who aren’t by any means a homogenous hivemind) - we men are a mixed bag of traits, similar to how women are to us. Some features society and you might value higher than others (usually on an individual basis), yet it ultimately is a blend of those. Like a very attractive and sophisticated female once said to me: “well, if he’s a handsome doctor with a good family-background, which woman would care if he’s 5’7 or 6’3?”

Speak that real shi

Or they just have too many options to choose from.

@@gj9157 online they do, I don't think they have any more options in real life than any other time.

Absolutely false height is the most important thing to women online or not

@@AlmostlessThanHuman if that were true there wouldn't be any short men in relationships would there? I can think of some well known short men that seem pretty happily married as well as normal guys I know in real life, and most people will.

@tempsoda Most aren't actually, most short men are excluded from the dating pool.

No, but tymhe chances of having "tall sons" is higher with the tal guy. It's genetics and it's built into women.

I'm also curious about this.

So it clearly matters lol.

@@gj9157 I feel in love with the person😉 not his height

@@carolkingsafer9728 Lets pretend

@@carolkingsafer9728 keep telling yourself that

I imagine that in the swiping world of today, where any decent looking woman is overwhelmed by choice, it's a convenient way of reducing the numbers. Women have more to go on than such simplistic factors irl, but all else being equal they're still going to choose based on height.

That's essentially no difference. There's diminishing returns after 6'1''

Ya fr

Not necessarily. Height is desirable but just because ur 6’2 doesn’t make you necessarily physically attractive. These 4-5 inches shorter guys could’ve been seen as more physically attractive because it’s a combination of things. Attractive face, broad shoulders, athletic, deep voice etc height isn’t the only physically attractive trait.

@@renachiiuwu6463 Fair point!

Thats what am sayin best boxing matches ever go pound for pound, well sex is the same lets go height for hieght or close and lets let love have a preference over vanity.

It isn’t black and white. Both “look’s, and personality traits” are equally important for LT relationships. Certain level of mutual physical attraction needs to be met.

Wrong height is a single most important thing to women if you are below her minimum threshold then odd of it happening is slim to none regardless of the other things

​@@renachiiuwu6463 It is undeniable that there needs to mutual physical attraction. Looks are almost always important in terms of getting your foot in the door. You're probably never getting a date if your vibes+looks score doesn't meet a certain threshold, but once you're actually dating, you're generally only moving forward by maintaining vibes and having good character. I really just have an issue with the people who grossly exaggerate woman's standards and/or use their own physical attractiveness as an excuse for why they aren't pulling. Most people can look decent if they try to, so long are they aren't obese or deformed or something. The reality is most of the guys complaining about this shit either are already attractive enough or at least have the potential to be, but they either aren't talking to enough women or are too social inept to successfully court one. It's also possible their own standards are too high. Based on a couple of my friends and statements from other dudes online, I think porn, anime, IG models, Hollywood, or any combination of the four have broken their minds as to what normal women actually look like.

@@DaDainDan "grossly exaggerate women standards" no one's exaggerating anything bud but it's literally what they asked for themselves

@@DaDainDan says anime is a problem has a cartoon profile pic lol bro I don't watch anime and I haven't watched porn in like a year and a half worse decision of my life by the way because the majority of women consider you just above the moral equivalent of a rapist or murderer just because you're sub 5'5

It's not over over. We just need to make money, live in the gym, and use our passports to go to countries that use the metric system and have shorter women.

lol you guys are hysterical.. dating apps suck - we already know this! Start cold approaching women and you’ll do much better but that requires you to put in effort and risk feeling discomfort

Not sure which statistic you cited, but from what I know it's 50/50% for 5'8, 85% for 5'10 and 99% for 6'0. It only gets really bad at around 5'7.

@@brianmeen2158 You’re forgetting, dating apps represent real life. Social media has warped women’s standards to be significantly higher than ever. A large portion of men are hopeless.

@@brianmeen2158 Cold approaching your chances of being rejected are 99%. Thats like buying a lottery ticket and thinking thats how you get money because eventually you might win.

I am a medium man (175 cm; 5'9"), and I have a strong fondness of taller women. It's difficult to get a date with one, because women over 175 cm are already rare, and (as you said), most of these rare women only consider men who are even taller than them.

Very true. I'm pretty sure women the vast majority of women left swipe on average faced dudes that are 6'4 all day, but if they see him listed as 6'8, quite an alarming percentage of women would match if his face is at least decent..

Nah, it doesn’t. But maybe. But it also doesn’t matter ❤

Yep. The media just brain washed brainless women into thinking it’s some big difference.

So women with 6' minimum filters Are missing out on all the 5.9" 5.10" 5.11" Who could be a better match or a billionaire lol

@@kitkakitteh „Yes but no, also it doesn’t matter.“ Thanks for the input 😂

​@@kitkakittehSo it does matter.. lol

ur not short, im 5"7, im short.

5’11 isn’t short it’s above average and a desirable height. Women don’t just go for the tallest guy, they also consider an attractive face, bmi etc.

Get a passport. Sixpack and six figures help as well.

Just because you don't notice something, doesn't mean it isn't true. They say ignorance is bliss. I bet if you could be short for a week you would appreciate your height more.

I’m the same height. It’s more of a non-disadvantage. Women will reject guys just for being short but they won’t sleep with guys just for being tall, it’s just one less reason for rejection.

@@boreopithecus A non-disadvantage gives you an advantage over the disadvantaged. lol

Well 5'9" is the average height for adult males in the US, as Chris mentioned - but someone who's 5'7" is exactly the 25th percentile/shorter than 75% of men, and 5'10" is taller than 60%+ of men. I agree people's perspective on height is really warped and way too much energy's wasted caring about something so superficial and pointless, but they're specifically talking about relative height dating preferences here and the range you gave is pretty huge and not representative of the average, according to the official data (which is publicly available from the CDC's 2015-2016 national height survey, if anyone wants to check it out).