How Much Do You Need to Ride to Get Faster? The Science

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Dylan Johnson

Dylan Johnson

2 жыл бұрын

What is the optimal training volume for you? I go into the different factors that determine how much you should be riding your bike each week in order to improve.
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@DylanJohnsonCycling
@DylanJohnsonCycling 2 жыл бұрын
I've got training plans available here: www.trainingpeaks.com/coach/dylanjohnsontraining#trainingplans
@philipk4475
@philipk4475 2 жыл бұрын
@Aero Dynamix Nice review bro. The plans range from 6h per week to 15h per week.
@wannesbosman
@wannesbosman 2 жыл бұрын
​ @Aero Dynamix Not everyone has 20 hours to train. If your pro you should get a coach not a standard program.
@Totalavulsion
@Totalavulsion 2 жыл бұрын
@Aero Dynamix I’ve noticed some of your comments and I’ve concluded you don’t know what you’re talking about. However, if you believe you have something credible to say then why not engage like a normal civilised human being rather than being unnecessarily rude?
@Totalavulsion
@Totalavulsion 2 жыл бұрын
@Aero Dynamix you do realise that the content of Dylan’s videos is based on the review of available evidenced literature, right? What are you basing your opinions on? It’d be good to hear about them.
@XX-is7ps
@XX-is7ps 2 жыл бұрын
Not to detract too much from the comment shitshow below but just a suggestion for a topic to cover Dylan - “readiness to train” tests. It ties in well with topics such as overtraining and optimal training prescription but it would be good to see a roundup of what’s proven to provide accurate predictions in lab tests - I’ve seen mention of resting heart rate, HRV, but also less common tests such as the Lambert LSCT, simple “questionnaires”, ruler-grab reaction times, grip strength tests, cortisol level in saliva… just dozens of proposed methods - it would be great to know which were most backed by science in the research literature 👍
@gte534j
@gte534j 2 жыл бұрын
I just simply look at what volume dylan is doing on strava and then do 1 hr more than him per week. Then i am guaranteed to beat him in every race.
@suisinghoraceho2403
@suisinghoraceho2403 11 ай бұрын
Front hat or back hat Dylan?
@chrispeske7039
@chrispeske7039 9 ай бұрын
😂
@danwelch1122
@danwelch1122 14 күн бұрын
I think that’s also the strategy for around 16 other elite gravel racers
@chrisvanbuggenum871
@chrisvanbuggenum871 2 жыл бұрын
How do i know when I've hit that volume? It's when my wife gives me that look.
@compassionsix
@compassionsix 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly. I don’t know my ceiling volume as it’s higher than the Misses tolerable volume.
@edwarddapra7674
@edwarddapra7674 2 жыл бұрын
When the wife says, “Going riding again?”
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell 2 жыл бұрын
Divorce time
@stithis
@stithis 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly .....
@mac2453
@mac2453 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoshuaTootell U 2 ? :)
@jackwhale8152
@jackwhale8152 2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see you race against Evenepole in BWR Kansas, good luck man.
@ironbuttcycling146
@ironbuttcycling146 2 жыл бұрын
I am excited , that will be fun.
@meatmotorendurance
@meatmotorendurance 2 жыл бұрын
Drop that Roadie/UCI spy like a hot rock.
@gaidenlee
@gaidenlee 2 жыл бұрын
Waithing for this content from him as well....
@adammillsindustries.
@adammillsindustries. 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah yeah me too. 100th like on that comment ohhh yeah!!!
@poochie8208
@poochie8208 2 жыл бұрын
We need a #blame my epigenetics t-shirt by BHD
@ultimatist
@ultimatist 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, BHD excuses merch would sell pretty well! And save me from having to actually voice the excuses every group ride!
@DEAR7340
@DEAR7340 2 жыл бұрын
I am Re-Learning these principles at age 59, usually by mistakes. One of the challenges is that most of us interpret your body's signals of overtraining as "weakness" and the same grit that helps us compete, takes us to a bad place in training.
@johns3106
@johns3106 2 жыл бұрын
@Aero Dynamix Pretty sure you’re wrong there, bud.
@Avianthro
@Avianthro 2 жыл бұрын
Always wiser to err on the side of caution. If you feel like you may be overtraining, pull back on volume-intensity for a while until you feel OK, and then try pushing up little by little again. Yes, to train, to make gains in performance, not just to maintain, you must challenge your body, but never too much.
@johns3106
@johns3106 2 жыл бұрын
@Aero Dynamix How old are you and how long have you been racing and training?…Because it sounds like you are one of those know-it-all newcomers that really don’t have much experience or knowledge. It has been well established over many years and studied by LOTS of experts…overtraining really happens!
@terrywalker7127
@terrywalker7127 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure where is the correct forum to ask but have any athletes had any adverse effects from covid 19 vaccine?
@maranatha3333
@maranatha3333 2 жыл бұрын
@Aero Dynamix Arrow missed the target here…
@danmashman2500
@danmashman2500 2 жыл бұрын
Great vid. As an older rider (50) I find a reduced training week every 5-6 weeks before ramping back up again really helps my body recover and consolidate any gains I have made. As most gains are made during recovery reducing milage and intensity every so often helps me maintain my training without succumbing to overtraining. Thanks again for a very informative video.
@michaelslattery3050
@michaelslattery3050 Жыл бұрын
I raced in myu 30s and 40s. I found that one easy week a month worked well for me. BUT, the week before that I pushed myself to my limit and would almost feel sick on the last day of that week. I had the best results of my life when I did it well.
@TheTacticalathlete
@TheTacticalathlete Жыл бұрын
At 53 this exactly works for me too! Thanks Dan
@bryanj.2447
@bryanj.2447 9 ай бұрын
Yep 48 here. 3 weeks on then pull back! I take a rest week. Maybe ill do some easy rides, maybe not
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dillon - although it is depressing to be constantly reminded that not only am I limited due to my genetics but that things are only going down hill each year.... #OldGit
@johns3106
@johns3106 2 жыл бұрын
I’m right there with you!
@graffix11us
@graffix11us 2 жыл бұрын
Meh, I'll be 52 this year and while I can't hold intensity like I used to I've just switched to more endurance rides. Had a 20 something kid at my last race come up to me and ask me what lap I was on. Told him lap 6 and his eyes kinda bugged out. Then he asks how many people on my team, I told him just me and he could hardly believe it! :-) I may be getting older but I can still crank out the miles!!
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 2 жыл бұрын
@@graffix11us 57 this year and I bikepacked from Brussels to an island north of Gothenburg in the summer, 1400Km in nine days. But I'm still not going to worry the front of any races and it doesn't get easier each year...
@graffix11us
@graffix11us 2 жыл бұрын
@@frazergoodwin4945 That's some impressive riding. At some point it's not so much about winning races anymore but just staying fit enough to enjoy life. I look around at many folks younger than me that are already heading downwards and it gives me plenty of motivation to keep pushing! Congrats on your ride.
@richardnoe3965
@richardnoe3965 2 жыл бұрын
My coach never increases volume by more than 5 miles per week. Week 1: 40 miles, week 2:4 5 miles etc. Im training for triathlon so its usually 3 rides per week: Long ride, interval ride (constantly switching between 30 second intervals, 1 minute intervals, 5-10 minute intervals at zone 4-5 pace), and a cruise ride (usually 20 miles at race pace). Then every 2-3 weeks he'll schedule a "recovery week" to try and absorb the training; basically all the volume drops significantly for that week and then ramps right back to where we were the following week. Over the last 2 years Ive seen my riding really improve from racing around 160 watts to around 220 watts now. Im sure theres different methods out there- this seems to be working for me at least. As a side note- I noticed the single biggest jump Ive ever had in cycling performance was by simply getting a professional bike fit.
@longboard2257
@longboard2257 2 жыл бұрын
Great info DJ! Pullin for you bud! Hope you have a great 2022 race year!
@mcbezinque
@mcbezinque 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this, exactly the questions that have been rolling around my head lately!
@funkydisciple
@funkydisciple 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your channel. I learn loads everyday.
@drbfitk366
@drbfitk366 2 жыл бұрын
As always Dylan, excellent training information. Taking time to record specific training type sessions is important along with how long is needed for adequate recovery from the sessions, is very important with respect to age or pre-existing fitness base.
@jackpemberton3370
@jackpemberton3370 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always 👍
@StephenAndrichuk
@StephenAndrichuk 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a good video! Thanks Dylan
@jeffermc99
@jeffermc99 2 жыл бұрын
Like drinking from the fire hose, Dylan! Excellent content, as usual, and loads of information. Definitely will be watching it a few more times. Thanks for everything!
@johnheiss9954
@johnheiss9954 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, and thanks for sharing all those references!
@rascal1234
@rascal1234 2 жыл бұрын
Valuable information. Thanks for sharing.
@andrx074
@andrx074 2 жыл бұрын
After taking a few weeks off the bike (advice from a previous video), this was perfectly timed for a restart. Thanks
@lazrface
@lazrface 9 ай бұрын
One of the best training videos I’ve seen. Excellent explanation. You answered a lot of my questions about balancing volume and intensity. Great job! Love the content. 👍
@donbracci2199
@donbracci2199 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative video and very glad there was a backward hat Dylan Strava reference 😀 👍
@superstrada6847
@superstrada6847 2 жыл бұрын
Good job Dylan. Thanks.
@aboutbikes1264
@aboutbikes1264 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, as usual 👍
@johnrossvalderama2358
@johnrossvalderama2358 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, that explains why I failed my past two interval sessions.
@tubbytoast2
@tubbytoast2 2 жыл бұрын
Top video again Dylan 👍
@danoedalo
@danoedalo 2 жыл бұрын
Man, I just wanted to thank you for all your content and dedication. You found that sweet spot between personal experience and science-based data with a bit of good sense of humor. Wish you all the good luck in your future endeavours.
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff dude! 🤘🏻🤙🏻
@brookanderson9713
@brookanderson9713 2 жыл бұрын
Great information and you make the guidance easy to follow. I like the way you present the information as always.
@bransyeah
@bransyeah 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video Dylan
@godguidanceandgardens2453
@godguidanceandgardens2453 Жыл бұрын
Bro you have a based information platform. Thanks and keep growing!
@pincob9378
@pincob9378 2 жыл бұрын
“…i’m sorry to disappoint, but you’re not gonna get that…” gimme the magic bullet Dylan!!!! Lol love watching your very informative vids! Thanks!
@jakefiddler966
@jakefiddler966 2 жыл бұрын
Great video
@10789macca
@10789macca 2 жыл бұрын
I always do decoupling sessions and when I can go longer power for the same heart rate then I start to increase, that's at VT1 and VT2 power and rate zones. Very important decoupling sessions, especially for Ironman.
@gogoyoyo2404
@gogoyoyo2404 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting , always picking up something new... Learning never ends. Keep peddling .....
@TrickyDickyBE
@TrickyDickyBE 2 жыл бұрын
What, as in… “Psst, wanna’ buy some EPO”? Sometimes spelling really matters… 🥸
@einundsiebenziger5488
@einundsiebenziger5488 2 жыл бұрын
... keep pedaling* (from "pedal", the thing you put your foot on)
@winstonmatthews6815
@winstonmatthews6815 2 жыл бұрын
well done. I enjoyed it.
@williambob111
@williambob111 2 жыл бұрын
BHD always cracks me up!
@ellisandrews440
@ellisandrews440 9 ай бұрын
Excellent advice
@calixtemidon1185
@calixtemidon1185 2 жыл бұрын
great information!
@frederik0014
@frederik0014 2 жыл бұрын
A good overview of training principles, but one very important factor (for amateurs) has been left out: Time! Intensity is less time consuming and should therefore often be favoured. Few people that can physically train 20-30 hours a week, will actually have the time to do so.
@IsaiahsBabyDaddy
@IsaiahsBabyDaddy 2 жыл бұрын
He did mention it during the volume range segment.
@frazergoodwin4945
@frazergoodwin4945 2 жыл бұрын
Anyone else constantly waiting for when the first contribution from BHD will be each video?
@workingguy6666
@workingguy6666 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting for the first video by BHD with interjections from regular Dylan.
@fhworship
@fhworship 2 жыл бұрын
Great video.
@jpstez5271
@jpstez5271 2 жыл бұрын
I've always done better with focused intensity, than volume. Key being understanding when the effort quality is starting to slide and backing off.
@maxw5229
@maxw5229 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@SeaCowsBeatLobsters
@SeaCowsBeatLobsters 2 жыл бұрын
86500 miles per year is 237 miles per day. At an average speed of 20 mph thats 11.8 hours per day. Literally wtf
@BFinesilver2
@BFinesilver2 2 жыл бұрын
Most people ride as much as they can fit in when it comes to volume. Progressive increases in volume is a luxury of time.
@Wellfitaj
@Wellfitaj 9 ай бұрын
Good advice
@gasolinewine801
@gasolinewine801 2 жыл бұрын
Damn Dylan. You never seem to amaze me. Just when I’m in need of advice for something, you post a video answering my questions. Thanks 🙏 😊
@drsus0
@drsus0 2 жыл бұрын
50 here... I actually love there fact that I know i HAVE to train less to be able to recover better. I used to go hard as hell all the time because I knew there were gains to be made. knowing that if I do that now actually hurts my gains makes it nice to take it easy and know im doing it right.
@-es2bf
@-es2bf 9 ай бұрын
increase your milage slowly. Thank you so much for your great advice.
@myhanslombard
@myhanslombard 10 ай бұрын
top 5 best cycling channels on KZfaq. thx
@orion410
@orion410 2 жыл бұрын
I'm somewhat new to cycling, having been a swimmer for around five years now. I find that I actually max out on volume much quicker than intensity in cycling. I think that since I swim short events, usually the 100, 200 and 500 short course yards, I,m used to the cardiovascular load of intensity, but my body just still isn't used to the long-term stress of hours of biking. I just don't do those kinds of high volume workouts when I swim, so for me, too many long endurance rides will leave me fatigued.
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 2 жыл бұрын
Just gradually increase the training time on the bike, but before doing so, make sure you have a good bike fit dialed in, ALSO, remember to standup and do segments while standing up, just enough to work the different muscle groups and help with overall blood flow and reduced stress on the back.
@thelittleadventures3289
@thelittleadventures3289 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, you mentioned that people who cycle ultra distances might train more hours per week than some pros who focus on shorter distances but that they would hit a volume limit where their performance stopped improving. I was curious if you could touch on how to train for ultra endurance events (I'm thinking of 24 hour events and 200 miles currently but I'm very early on in my focused training). It would be interesting to me to know how to do the overnight training and long hours as a simulation. Thanks for all of the great content!
@JasonDBike
@JasonDBike 2 жыл бұрын
Jus do it. Time in saddle.
@ianfurqueron5850
@ianfurqueron5850 2 жыл бұрын
I suppose this explains why I feel like crap after completing a 31 Days of July challenge (1 hour, every day in July). While I've learned how to not completely murder myself doing this challenge and this year I ended the month not feeling too bad, but I still lost a lot of motivation to ride in the months since. I will definitely consider some of the Training Peaks courses.
@silverburn55
@silverburn55 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure if I should post here or not, but here goes: So Ive been struggling with plateauing, and kinda stuck on where to go next. After a big crash in 2014 and surgeries years ago and stressful life, I started getting back into cycling again. I started at 90kg, and am 1.70m in height, and 50 years old. In the first year, I lost around 8kg, and ended the year on 196w FTP. This year, I hit 78kg and around 230w FTP + 1000w sprint power with lots of threshold and tempo rides. And this is where the problems start. I seem to have gotten stuck. The weight loss has stopped (the target is my old race weight of 72kg), as has the power (my old target is 270w FTP), and sprint power has stubbornly refused to get any closer to my old 1300w power of 7 years ago when I used to race veledrone. Strangely, my fitness has been improving this whole time. Even as I complete my local routes faster, my RE has been dropping as well. My recovery rate is improving, both in ride, and day to day. But I still cant seem to climb any faster (typically 700VAM). Been trying to vary my routes to break out the muscle memory, but I think I need to do more. Am I doomed to spending winter on the turbo? Any way to do leg strength work without going to the Gym?
@PatrickvonMassow
@PatrickvonMassow 2 жыл бұрын
Training volume is like engine size: It can't be replaced with anything, except more of it 😛. Intensity training is like the icing on a good volume base, similar to a turbocharger for an engine 😀.
@kilianbader9786
@kilianbader9786 2 жыл бұрын
I got to over 4,3 w/kg with ONLY base training, no intervals etc. Base is the most important for sure 😊
@erics9214
@erics9214 2 жыл бұрын
Your advice is for people training to race. For those of us training for long distance touring, it is a bit different. If you are training to tour, just like any other sport, specificity is the key. It is one thing to go all out in a four hour race and then take days off, because you can. When touring, you are on your bike six or more hours per day, every day, for weeks. An athlete well trained for another cycling discipline will adapt, but they may be a bit miserable for a while. It is definitely a different game when you are riding 60-100 miles per day on a bike that weighs 60 lbs. or more, and you have to get up tomorrow, and the day after and do it all again. Nutritional needs are different as well, but that is another topic.
@ironbuttcycling146
@ironbuttcycling146 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan I am excited for kansas evenepoel will Go there. Whoa h this will be fun. Just let him pull, that jid is impatient 🤪🤪
@ArTzV
@ArTzV 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Sweet Spot and Lactate Threshold also refer to in high intensity?
@jakebailey146
@jakebailey146 2 жыл бұрын
How should our volume fluctuate during the off-season?Maybe low to take a break in early winter, then high through the dead of winter and then start to reduce volume and increase intensity in spring? I'm having a hard time mentally reducing my intensity as winter is creeping in. It's more fun to chase backwards hat Dylan on Zwift than to grind out hours at low intensity. I'm doing it, but it's hard.
@user-ui3sd3kq1j
@user-ui3sd3kq1j 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, Dylan. Could you please explain the folowing: How to continue train for bike ride when you completely away from bike? Even away from indoor cycle. How to schedule the out-of-bike week? Gym, running?
@PatrickvonMassow
@PatrickvonMassow 2 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video on the science of training your sprint, please?
@josedasilvaroque4564
@josedasilvaroque4564 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the evidence. What about Sweetspot training for folks like me with less than 7 hours per week training?
@BikeLifewithRob
@BikeLifewithRob 2 жыл бұрын
All good info. My old body likes more time for recovery
@roebbiej
@roebbiej 2 жыл бұрын
Super interesting video, thanks! One question, do you advise skipping interval training completely and only focussing on lots of base miles in the winter? Or is sprinkling an interval in here and there a good idea.
@foodstartup
@foodstartup 2 жыл бұрын
Check out his Base Training Video
@jbo-2794
@jbo-2794 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. As a runner starting to cycle more I have a lot to learn and your videos are very helpful. I'm curious if you've researched the difference in performance between a carbon fiber gravel bike versus a bike with an aluminum frame for endurance events?
@giuseppepennisi8699
@giuseppepennisi8699 2 жыл бұрын
Wheels and tyre pressure play a big part, but the basic rule is that whatever bike weighs more will require more effort.
@MaximeTurcotte1983
@MaximeTurcotte1983 2 жыл бұрын
@Dylan, could it be a good idea to explore and compare what is better to improve, online racing vs structured plan ? I'm more of a structured training guy, but a friend is arguing online racing is better overall. Is there some science on that ? Thank you
@gregorybarger3364
@gregorybarger3364 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan nice information what have you heard about vitamin B3 ?
@jj95east
@jj95east 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Your merch line needs some improvement though.
@larrylem3582
@larrylem3582 2 жыл бұрын
It's been 15 minutes...Gawd it takes me so long to recover now!!!!
@issaowaga
@issaowaga 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, I started of as a competitive swimmer and we trained using USRTP. Is there an equivalent in cycling?
@marklam8078
@marklam8078 3 ай бұрын
If you are not a pro and have a life then around 14 hours a week is enough. With the right genetics and intense intervals and hill training 2-3 times a week you will be competitive. .
@aaron___6014
@aaron___6014 2 жыл бұрын
6.5hrs/wk this season and I can hold my own but the endurance is lacking. However, I don't like longer rides.
@kiverrussell8369
@kiverrussell8369 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. As a straw poll I wonder what average volume people find works best for them? Personally I tend to be around 7-9 hours per week as a leisure rider trying to perform at his best (around the cat 2 level) with limited time. Interestingly those riders I know locally who are significantly stronger than me (firmly in the cat 1 bracket) tend to be at a similar volume. I have seen my best ever form when I could stretch my volume a little to the 10 hour+ mark but that seems to come with the risk of falling ill or becoming fatigued so, even if I had the time, it probably isn't sustainable for long. As you advocate, perhaps working at that volume earlier in the season before decreasing volume as intensity picks up would probably work best, life allowing.
@jonathanellis36
@jonathanellis36 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting question. I reckon most amateur roadies will be between 7-12 hours per week...and that’s the problem isn’t it? I mean with work/family/life commitments we are stuck with getting as fit as we can off those hours and 2-3 interval sessions per week. The strongest amateur cyclists I know are at the top end of this and they are also very consistent throughout the year and season to season
@Tethysmeer
@Tethysmeer 2 жыл бұрын
There is little information available for us "normal" riders with a job, family etc. How to train best when you only can train 7hs?
@kiverrussell8369
@kiverrussell8369 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tethysmeer "fast on six hours" vid on this very channel 👍
@roebbiej
@roebbiej 2 жыл бұрын
When will your next race recap video be?
@Gledii
@Gledii 4 ай бұрын
thanks for sharing. what would you say that is a good way to mesure, besides feeling? using CTL to measure the workload and fatigue? i basically ride for the fun (or adiction:P) and i just want to be sure that im not doing too much. too less is not happening anyways :P. thanks
@alex9046
@alex9046 Жыл бұрын
5:04 S/O seat slammed all the way forward gang
@mauricedejongh7969
@mauricedejongh7969 2 жыл бұрын
Comparing podcast from LtD (LSRF in Dutch) with your video there is a difference: reverse periodization vs normal. You seem to show 'normal periodization'. Whilst doing large volume in wintertime is extremely difficult for amateurs, and one cannot keep high volume + intensity towards events. I think working on weakness (anaerobic capacity) first and then cranking up the volume is a good alternative. But I'm no expert!!
@marcusweber3607
@marcusweber3607 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Maurice, in which Episode from LSRF was it described?
@mauricedejongh7969
@mauricedejongh7969 2 жыл бұрын
@@marcusweber3607 I think somewhere in the "beter worden podcast", but there are so many...
@secretagent86
@secretagent86 10 ай бұрын
Old fart here riding for fun. About 12 to 15 hours per week. Getting a power meter but i did recently start using a Heart rate monitor… very interesting. 3000 km so far this year. Expect to do 6000. These concepts apply to older more casual riders too
@jannikhummer1454
@jannikhummer1454 8 ай бұрын
Vo2max and vlamax rise fast at my Training even by doing just 10h per week. My ftp depends normaly very strongly on lowering the Vlamax. So it happens that i have a higher ftp at under 15h with the right key sessions like (40/20)s, K3 and some lowcarb than at 25h doing 85/15 polarised LIT/HIT
@saunadude8082
@saunadude8082 2 жыл бұрын
This vid was great and all with good points. Does anyone know whether previous endurance training has a major effect on tolerating high volume training in other sports? I used to run and my peak volume was 12-13h a week and after 7 weeks of cycling im already pretty comfort able at 15+ hours but my cap is around 18h plus 2 gym sessions. All of those hours are logged on the indoor trainer as i currently dont own a bike. Last ftp test 3 weeks ago i tested 225w from my 20min test giving me ftp of ≈211 at 60 kilos. Thinking next week that 240w or 4w per kilo should already be attainable. Have i found a sport where im actually good at or is it all thanks to these great in depth training vids? I wonder when my progression will hit that wall. What do yall think.
@maxw5229
@maxw5229 2 жыл бұрын
Are your numbers still rising? :) Wish you best of luck, sounds like a great progress
@turboseize
@turboseize 10 ай бұрын
The cardio (maybe even cardio-pulmobal) adaptions are general and should therefore transfer to a different sport. Other adaptions are specific (muscular capillarisation, mitochondria density, neural efficiency/skill) and the degree to which they will transfer can vary wildly. For example There seems to be a high carryover from swimming to rowing and vice versa, and even from (leightweight, obviously) rowing to cycling, but running to rowing not so much... (Carryover here to be understood that people with a background in sport A with structured training will reach a somewhat competetive level in the new sport B much quicker than previously untrained or not-endurance-trained people. It does NOT tmean that Athlete from sport A can jump into sport B and expect to perform at an elite or even inter,ediate level immediately).
@jannikhummer1454
@jannikhummer1454 8 ай бұрын
According to my feeling i would say, nowdays my 71kg body tolerates burning total of 4500kcal per day completely without recoverydays in zone 2. But by adding intensity this looks completely different
@mattlee6430
@mattlee6430 10 ай бұрын
Able to break a chain under power but mostly able to catch diesel. Breathing in diesel means you are on form.
@michaelsherwin4449
@michaelsherwin4449 8 ай бұрын
What about training on a large flat empty parking lot at a constant sustainable cadence doing ovals around it? And gradually increasing distance?
@sdhaskell
@sdhaskell 2 жыл бұрын
my question - you mention 2-3 intense sessions a week - i have to imagine that represents a certain % of overall hours? Have you looked at it like that? So during base phase, 10% of hours should be >=z4, build phase is X%, Race phase is X%? Then layer on that % increase decrease of overall volume during those phases? Just curious.
@gavinmercak-dinolfo1375
@gavinmercak-dinolfo1375 2 жыл бұрын
I've thought of that before. calculating what my coach subscribed for me (12hr week, 315ftp) was about 6/7% intensity for what you would call base/general. I can't imagine going over 12% unless you are doing a lot of sweet spot and low hours.
@Charles-kk6vj
@Charles-kk6vj 2 жыл бұрын
Polarised people talk about an 80/20 split easy/hard by number of sessions. But once you translate that to hours on the bike it’s usually much lower than 20% hard. More like 90/10 depending on hours. I don’t think a straight % really works, because it seems like 2 sessions is about right irrespective of volume. So someone doing 5hour weeks vs 20hour weeks would have way different percentages. It would be more about periodisation/increasing of intensity in build phases, as in shorter intervals. So even a lower % of hours depending on how you calculate it.
@danielshimanski5440
@danielshimanski5440 2 жыл бұрын
That’s Strava notification from Jeremiah Bishop 😂
@brianbartels5947
@brianbartels5947 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos and am wondering if there is any data on how to training should restart after a major injury. I broke my femur in August and will shortly be back on the trainer shortly. Right now the surgeon is limiting my trainer rides to 50watts so real low intensity, but I want to do this intelligently when I get the green light and there is not much info that I have found
@the318pop
@the318pop 2 жыл бұрын
Broke my pelvis in two places and my femur, also in August. I haven't started back yet but when I do it will just be with the basic plan of progressive overload. Your body will tell you if you're overdoing it.
@brianbartels5947
@brianbartels5947 2 жыл бұрын
@@the318pop one of the screws is causing trouble and will be removed in two weeks after that I hope to be back on my Kickr
@the318pop
@the318pop 2 жыл бұрын
@@brianbartels5947 take it easy, it's a hobby. Don't rush anything. Good luck with your recovery.
@brianbartels5947
@brianbartels5947 2 жыл бұрын
@@the318pop same to you, long road back
@Bootcampmia
@Bootcampmia 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍🏻
@M.W.T
@M.W.T 2 жыл бұрын
This isn’t your typical upload but I think a video about how knowledge of cycling and training methods can be put to use in a career as well as other cycling related jobs and how people can get into them would be pretty cool
@M.W.T
@M.W.T 2 жыл бұрын
Or just some insight into what being a cycling coach is like and how to become one
@pontifexsolis1175
@pontifexsolis1175 2 жыл бұрын
Video idea: People that want to improve year to year but dont race, not focussing specific peaks.
@ultimatist
@ultimatist 2 жыл бұрын
Same process, you just don't need to taper since there are no race events. Rest days must be adhered to.
@robinhawes8843
@robinhawes8843 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, I wondered what you thought of a situation like that of Damien Clayton or Alexandar Richardson. Two pros who both tried cycling in their mid 20s, loved it so much that they did 1100+ hrs in their first year. Their subsequent annual training volume decreased as they became racers and eventually pros. Q: Do you think there's something to be said for dedicating an entire year to base volume, rather than a typical 'base phase' length, especially for someone just starting out? Kind of a Hail Mary but it seemed to pay off for these guys afterwards!
@cornishalps9870
@cornishalps9870 2 жыл бұрын
Two great cyclists from the UK domestic scene. I'd like to hear the answer to this.
@bitchoflivingblah
@bitchoflivingblah 2 жыл бұрын
To put this into context thats 3 hours per day every day for a year - on average. The only way to do this for me would be to commute to work. So possibly in the Spring/ Summer I could do this. I think Alex was financially sorted that he could do this as a career, and I'm assuming to do these volumes it would be difficult for all but the most determined. I like Alex, great example of a dedicated athlete. Great question, btw.
@philipk4475
@philipk4475 2 жыл бұрын
What are you riding a bike for? Do you want to become a pro, ride competitive amateur events, ride with your local club, or just go cycling by yourself? Sticking to a base plan for a year seems like a daft idea, you would still want to do VO2 intervals at certain times, that will increase your FTP which will lead to subsequent Z2 rides (base miles) being at a higher power.
@jdr4307
@jdr4307 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipk4475 I think what OP is trying to say is staying with a high volume polarized model of 80/20 for a year is a more superior method for a beginner than taking years to develop your base. (also ive never heard of neglecting VO2 intervals in a base phase either)
@JoshuaTootell
@JoshuaTootell 2 жыл бұрын
I've been doing about 1000 hours a year for several years now. Endurance wise, I can just go and go and go. I often hit my high numbers hours into a ride just as easily as earlier in the ride. I don't know how much is genetics vs training. After hiring a coach a couple years ago he started having me add more intensity to get my power up, and I responded well to it. But, here is a big but, I really like riding my bike a lot. I commute about an hour each way. I often ride the trainer or go for a run during my lunch break (30 minutes), and often ride extra miles after work too. Doing that kind of volume is going to be really hard if you don't want to be there. In reality, you only live once. Pick how you want to live. I like being active, so high mileage isn't hard (I also run and rock climb). But I don't have a family or friends (though, I do have a very active girlfriend) so doing stuff is just easy for me.
@olliegrave7229
@olliegrave7229 2 жыл бұрын
Any advice for cyclist that ride in Europe and oceania meaning we have on season all year round
@compassionsix
@compassionsix 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah. My bones remind me I need more recovery time than back in my youth.
@jamesyurgaky5649
@jamesyurgaky5649 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan how should we build two peak a year?
@jackjosephy23
@jackjosephy23 2 жыл бұрын
I think 2-3 high quality 45 min hard sessions a week can get your faster and definitely maintain your FTP, with perhaps a couple of hours of lighter z2 work. It's worked for me as a time pressured parent anyway.
@Stopcrazydance
@Stopcrazydance 2 жыл бұрын
Dylan, is this your first video with a green screen?
@daniel_chu
@daniel_chu 2 жыл бұрын
(backwards hat on) Lachlan Morton bikes 24 hours a day 7 days a week that's the perfect volume for me to go pro
@theegg-viator4707
@theegg-viator4707 2 жыл бұрын
LoL
@roadglide
@roadglide 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent info! How then might on bike specific training change based up upon how much progressive overload weight resistance training are done at the gym?
@ignaciosevil2157
@ignaciosevil2157 4 ай бұрын
Everyone’s definition of “intensity” varies a lot. Should I get to a certain metric?
@sapinva
@sapinva 2 жыл бұрын
Any more than 10 hrs a week on the bike is flat out toxic for me, wiping me out for weeks afterwards. But intensity 4 times a week (+ strength training) is no problem at all, and I'm old. Probably why I've always sucked at endurance stuff. So much for simple formulas.
@TheJaxsonjack
@TheJaxsonjack 2 жыл бұрын
I hear ya. Had a different approach to my riding this year. I'm a mountain bike enthusiast, and most all my rides since later winter into the summer were Z2 ... Power Meter date + Perceived Exertion. I'd not let myself get too out of breath on my mountain bike rides. As well, I was riding one TrainerRoad workout per week ... VO2 max workouts like "Baird -2" which is a 1 minute on, 2 minutes soft pedal. To get to the point, I didn't flog myself or wear myself down or got sore from the riding I was doing and wound up riding the best I had in years vs. the guys I ride with who race cross country. Prob 5 - 6 hrs. per week ... minimal strength training.
@sapinva
@sapinva 2 жыл бұрын
​@@TheJaxsonjack I've been more aware of the zones the last few years. Spending more time at the two extremes helps. Longer rides in Z3 are the most problematic for me. Have never been sore from riding ever. It's the heart, lungs and complete lack of an aerobic metabolism that always does me in.
@TheJaxsonjack
@TheJaxsonjack 2 жыл бұрын
@@sapinva I've done basically no (deliberate) Sweet Spot Training. Week in and week out SST seems to tear me down and is difficult for me to recover from. I wish I was a "Cyclist" ... but I'm more of a minuture version of a punt returner. That said, I've been quite pleased with myself at being able to "hang" with some XC racer types this year on fun rides and I can only attribute that to the change-up in the way I have been "training". Thanks for the reply.
@adampieper6943
@adampieper6943 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Dylan, great work on the vids. I mainly ride xc and xc marathons and I have a question about bike choice for training. Would I be better off training on a hardtail for low intensity rides/Zwift sessions and then using the full-sus bike for racing. Or should low intensity training be done on a road bike/gravel bike? This is a painful choice.
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