As everyone may have different views, for me, driving home for 45 mins in traffic, with some of the nastiest drivers on the planet after 10 hours working in Healthcare during a pandemic, and being able to relax simply by turning up the volume and listening to good music through a good system is PRICELESS! I arrive home somewhat sane enough to do it all over again the next day.

Definitely. I would rather spend 1k on equipment and 4k on install than the other way around.

His prices for what he does is ok. Actually more than ok. How many people pay 3000 or 4000 and are please with the quality of their car audio. Not many. This is his life. Hes not out to screw you. If you dont k ow pete by now you will. Hes a good man. Protects his customers and treats them like friends. It's not only business with him

I worked at a car stereo shop back in the late 90’s. It is amazing how much more technologically advanced the equipment is now. I can fully understand the cost of a proper sq system.

Peter, since I got my megane back from you, my day starts with a smile every morning driving to work.. Thank you so much and keep on the good work!!!❤

There's not enough people talking about SQ, please keep the videos coming. And thank you, I learn something new every time I watch.

One of your best videos. Can only imagine when your 70+ years old what a legend guru you will be

As always Peter 💯💯, spot on!! Sadly most car audio shops are just selling you a brand and quick installation & onto the next. Yes to buying reputable equipment to achieve our individual sq goals. We all hear things differently but we can all appreciate a clean sounding system. I,m only doing a simple build with your inspiration and ideas from your videos & yes it all costs even the tools to bring together my build. What people forget it not only your time, it your knowledge of many years of building systems and you can't put a price on that. Keep building Peter & keep sharing some not all your knowledge 🤫🤫.

I installed my own system in a 2018 Ford f150 supercrew. 11k in total from hardware, materials and tools. Still haven't finished a final install as I'm waiting for some aluminum work to get the amps/dsp on a solid mounting rack. Many hours of deadening, making rcas, making wire runs and soldering connections, chasing down rattles etc. And thats before tuning and measurements etc. If I could afford a high quality installer I'd have gone that route but it is what it is. I may bring the truck to a shop for tuning once I am happy with my install.

We ha e good people in ny too. Here we have nick from apicella. And a few others . People here complain about their prices. But look at the work. And they do recording as they work. And no one can speak bad about them. That's why everyone loves pete and these guys.

I dont wanna think about it, drived 550km today and loved my favourite music

As an owner of a SQ car audio/audio company, when answering this question,, you have to sell yourself, your company, and your work, which is essentially wat this video was. I think what you do best is showing your work through YT video. The detail, the explanation, the showcasing, the instructional videos, the components you use, the final install, and the demo session of each build, is enough for me to think that your companies attention to detail is top notch. I would have no concerns bringing my car to you, as I can see your work through your YT videos. The problem I have is when audio shops charge so much, but you have no way on understanding how well of a job they're actually going to do when you choose to have them build you a system. SO many shops have little to no pics, videos, or reviews. They're very basic, but still charge a lot. If these shops took some time out to simply make a YT channel and give it 10-20% the effort that you do, I am positive they would have more business and less bad reviews. But too many don't, charge a customer, do a crap install, and the customer is left with a sub-par job at a high cost.

Again I'm blown away by the work you do. If my build comes out half as good as yours I'll be happy.

Happy...happy..happy..watch the last video before this one. You will hear Peter's customer say it again and again. Isn't that the point of all this? For the love of music and sound. I think for most of us living in this crazy world today we are looking for a sanctuary..a place where we can escape our daily struggles. For me and I'm sure for many of you who love music, our cars have become that place of solitude where we can escape the daily grind. How can we put a price on that? If the customer has the funds to hire an installer such as Peter and the end result is even better than was expected and the customer is ecstatic about what was achieved in his automobile..then it was worth everything he spent on it. As a d.i.y. guy, out of necessity more than desire, I can tell you even doing it yourself is expensive. Especially if your experimenting turns out to be a total disaster. Then you have to tear It all out and try again. How do you put a price on knowledge and experience? Not even to mention the investment in tools and equipment that the expert has to invest. So when I am in my garage with my stone axe carving out some holes for my subwoofers, I dream about how it would be if I could just hire someone such as Peter with all his knowledge and skill, to help me find that brown note, that place of solitude, that sanctuary! If you can afford that and you drive away happy, then by all means do it! I'm sure the choice to put certain speakers in the front and different in the back was for good reason. Happy..happy..happy. Sorry for ranting on your comment section Peter, I read the comments on the other video as you mentioned..I dont know why I got so passionate about it. As always, I enjoy your videos and the expertise you share on KZfaq...and all this for free! Peace

Thank you Peter! The rule of thumb I read when I first got into audio was to budget $1 for install for every $1 spent on equipment. Based on your own anecdote with the Honda, the ratio is higher than this, more than 2:1 install vs equipment. This is excellent information to keep in mind. 👍

👌👍 nice to watch as usual... and most of the time a new vid from you right before I want to go to sleep... Where do you get your energy from Peter? 😀 Oh I forgot... of course; when u do something u like you also get energy from it as well... 👍

I was installing 5k-10k in the 80’s! I competed in under 100 watt class, probably 15k back then! We did very little more than maybe a fiberglass custom sub enclosure. Today that would easily be 25k to even 50k! We could also replace a factory radio and you would have $250, and it was blah!

The price is right if the client is willing to pay it. That said, It's always good for enthusiasts to share their work, knowledge and experience as that's what advances and keeps the hobby going.

9 speakers plus sub, amp, sound deadening and wires cost me about $750. Bought sub and amp new/used. Saved money watching your videos and installed everything myself.

Great video Peter. For people's information for example a budget of 3k for equipment. Simple but SQ system, 3 way. Then have the car owner do all the build, wire runs, sub install. Then at $50.00 per hour. Now add up the days spent and then they can see it's not cheap. On another note appreciate sharing the current awesome sub build for the Honda. 👏 Amazing.

Oh my! That audio system sounds...like a recording studio! Eargasm on it's purest! On the funny way, this is what happens when you use music to listen to your sound system! Audiophile level!

Well said Peter. Your videos are always thought provoking and interesting. Good to see an update on the Honda. Looking forward to the next one :)

Thank you Peter! I enjoy your candor and have learned a lot watching your videos over the last month after finding your channel.

"Yes you can get it cheaper but it sound like shit" lol. The cheap route ends up costing more once it's all said and done. Plus some big builds are still being paid for.

Thats right peter, all my family,and some of my friends wonder why I spend so much on my audio system ,because I can, I love music , some like to fish, or build models, well car audio is my hobbie, I truly love it ,and I will never be done ,as long as my power bill is paid,and food in the fridge, every other dime is put into my system,its not gonna end any time soon!!!

If you were charging too much the market would show that, and im sure peter would take his cars to this "much cheaper option" The reality is that peter is 1 of not very many who have the ability, once this is established then price can be spoken about, but its not ever a given.

Great watch Peter. Just found you today Sensible , knowledgeable approach to car audio

Aw Peter thx brother! Ur a legend!

800 hour car, 100 days. I can tell. When you played your demo@17:00. Well done!

Please don't die next week, Peter xD. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and making the point of the importance of costs of installation vs material. A lot of people spend all their money on material and when they go to a proper installer, they get mad for the install costs. Well, spend your money wisely. Cause your expensive system will sound shit, as you very well said.

$4k is cheap. I paid that for a build with nowhere close to your quality of work and I provided all the equipment

32:00 I got a little emotional. It would be a terrible loss to humanity to loose all your knowledge. 🙏🏼❤️💪🏼🤠🖖🏼

$5k doesn’t sound bad at all for the level of install and performance of end result. I feel that if anyone is talking about why that’s so expensive then they don’t know what they’re talking about. I would have no problem dropping double that to get a quality sq build in my vehicle.

Thanks Peter. I think the bmw was at the price i expected. Love your videos!

Great clip Peter , always going above and beyond the level that’s needed when sharing information with us. Made me laugh out loud when you mentioned the part about our wives knowing why we spend so much time and money on our equipment and installs. She thinks I need to see a psychiatrist for my obsession with sound reproduction.

The only way I'll save on the build is because I did the complete sound deadening and trying to get hiend equipment new at a good price , I can do some of the easy wiring , using ferrels and doing te h flex on the cables, but some things have to be done by the professionals, just the two mmatts6150 cost me $2200, plus the mmatts md4100 for the bass shakers is another $300, agm battery $300, the zapco hdsp v $1800, plus another $ 200 for bluetooth module, all the speakers, tweeters, widebands ,subwoofer, all from cdtaudio, $ 2000, their top of the line ,es and hd line, plus headunit pioneer avh 501 ex $ 350, and other things like cable, rca's, battery isolator, but it's all worth it, plus bass shakers, the buttkicker are expensive, about 270 each, unless you get the aurasound for $50, but theres a big difference, it's a very expensive hobby, but if your an audiophile it does not matter, you just have to have a budget, mine is $10,000 or less.

Reality is, any well done audio is NOT cheap...but it also will vary from vehicle to vehicle. Anything custom is going to be time inclusive and expensive if it is to be right. It all comes down to your installer as well.....i would gladly pay a known installer more for the quality that they are known for. People want great sound cheap and it just doesn't work that way......you have to be willing to pay for the knowledge behind the build.

Guy 1 says “I want a fast car that corners like a race and stops on a dime”. Guy 2 says” yeah that would be cool”. Mechanic says” how fast do you want to go”? Guy 1 says “really fast, but it has to handle really good, and stop on a dime”. Mechanic says “ well it’s very simple, how fast your car is directly proportionate to the size of your check book”. So how fast did you say you want to go? Engine 12k and up Trans 3k Suspension 7k and up EFI and associated parts 3k and up Wheels 500 and up Brakes 2k and up Induction system, turbo or supercharger 7k and up Tuning priceless, cause if it ain’t tuned right that motor will not live long. So really it’s all about how much you are willing to spend, and what you expect as an end result. So yeah, a person can spend a lot of money, or maybe try doing something’s themselves, maybe not buy the best of everything, maybe buy second hand, but definitely have reasonable expectations about what is there.

Thank you Peter.

Great video! Saved it for the time when i'm going to get a car. Prepare yourself, i'm going to annoy you with tons of questions then!

no bullshit here. Thanks again

As I say in work, you didn't have time or money to do it right the first time but you somehow had the money and time to do it right the second and third time. it's a joke. The money and time needed to do it right costs money but as usual, no one wants to pay for the TIME and KNOWLEDGE it takes to do it. They think flat price for the kit alone is what it should cost without any install or tuning time. it's just the ignorance of the general public when it comes to pricing work in the correct way. Thankfully when dealing with b2b they know the score and dont question when they get quoted hundreds of pounds PER HOUR for work, they know why. Unfortunately the vast majority of the general public just don't understand overheads and operating costs.

Thanks Peter. Passionate for your craft.

You are paying for the knowledge !

Most of the installers near me I wouldn't trust with a install like this. I'd rather drive 4 hours to go see Dean and Fernando and be sure it gets done right the first time. Honestly the only thing I need help with would be the tuning and the milkshake fabrication for the pods. I have trust issues, especially when 11k of JL Audio equipment is involved.

I hate being that guy to shed out Red Pills here. But some people just don't have the taste palette for Audio or even sound much beyond understating basic speech. It's like convincing a person to buy Pizza by the slice for $5.00 when you get get a whole Pizza at 7-Eleven for for a fiver and maybe a free 2 liter of Soda. The reason why so few are interested in truly high end audio reproduction in cars and S.Q.is simply down to taste. Most people are not able to understand much beyond the reason why plastic wood dash is not better then wood dash with imperfections etc. They just can't seem to understand why the patina of an item adds so much warmth or character to an object etc. People who worry about money do so since they are to lazy to care about learning about what they are trying to achieve and just want the simple grocery store approach or Fast food of audio in general. And that's just how it is. And that fine. What pains me is that others want to always "FIX" our hobby. Its almost exclusively a male hobby as well. And that seems to rub people the wrong way. Oh well. As in all things in life, not everyone has been gifted with the soul to enjoy such pleasures. It's like those that enjoy Caviar. You won't catch me at IKEA enjoying any of it. I don't care if its $3.00 or $300. Not going in my mouth. :-) So when folks start balking about the costs of our hobby, time or gear ? Sometimes it's just best to nod and look away. They just don't get it and might never. To those of us that LOVE audio? We get it. We love your work. And we love those that enjoy the finer things in life.

id gladly drop that much on a system built by you Peter. im on my second spl build now, im still learning. Hopefully in the future my work can be like yours! Keep up the excellent quality!

I hope the 4.5K is for labor and equipment is additional. If not, you should raise your rates

At the end of the day, you get what you pay for. This is a hard hobby to get the max results on a limited budget.

my system retails for $24k .... i couldnt be happier... i could never go back a lesser sound.

i have been build my system for years still not finish! i want it to sound right but i didn't have the fund to go to the pro , so i understand why it cost so much just labor alone.

Thank you for honest from the heart info as always!

Figure $100 usd an hour labor x 8 hours a day=$800 x 25 days=$$20,000 just for install. Well done.

I'm looking at ,zapco, ground zero, Moschino, arc , and had a thought of the helix

Some people will never understand a quality build

Peter I am super eager to learn more about audio tuning if you offer that service in the future!

I tried going the cheap route . First the equipment lookalike shit and theres no warranty. Then the time you have to spend t ok go see used stuff.

I hope you did not feel to defend your fees. Its worth it, just like some people buy a Bugatti, or a Rembrandt painting. Some of your work look like Van Gogh, with milkshake, metal balls and fillings, fibreglass, etc.... I wish I could listen to that Honda. Wish my Honda sounded like that. Some people spend more on cheap drugs up their nose! Your the best. Others I like are Nick Apicella, Matt Schaeffer and Mark of CarAudioFabrication...

I'm thinking on how to ,do (ib) for my mid bass ,front stage now!!!

I like to see people with passion, Elon Musk ask tell me about a topic you had to know a lot about…. And you my friend, squeezed your brain to the max… thanks brotha 💪🏼

Good talk. Love the videos!

But it's so. Uch nicer to put everything new and good stuff. Good amps like zapco ap mmatts. Both the best in sq. One a/b the other d class are not cheap. Pete shows many options that will help make it less expensive and still sound awesome. Like tweeter and midrange passive and midbass active. Plus rear fill with coaxial or wideband to help balance the front. But it's all up to us what we want. After seen his clean installs and all the other pros. How can we get a shitty job. I saved big money on things I can do myself and let me tell you to do a car 98% sound deadened with a good 80mil to 120 mil. Then closed cell foam and I still havent done the exterior wheel well. Which actually help tremendously to cover the noise from tire rotation. And to help with some of the outside rattle. It took me about two weeks of hard work. Yes here in New York they wanted 4000 and I know they were not gonna do as ma y layers as I did.

And from personal experience, no cost is too much if it makes you feel good..

To me anything over 5k for a car is over kill at that point just build a good control room in ur house if u have the room whole different kind of accuracy

Hi Pete, what Bluetooth model you're talking about @ 24:00 . Thanks for informative video's and GL

components is the easy part! just stay away from the cheapest no name crap and you will be fine. install and tuning is where all the work is!

Do Infinite baffle subwoofers change sound alot with the window down because it would change your box sizes? Was also courageous if you use any special speaker wire or just regular copper wire and if you run any of your wires a certain way because of cross resonance.

SQ system labor pricing should cost $1000 a day, or $10000 to start.

HI, love your work. Can you describe the sound difference between the X6 and the new arco? Thanks

I finally spent about $6000 and my wife agrees it's worth it ,she loves music, but I'm thinking withing that price I have yet to buy the zapco 16 channel hdsp v, I can get it used for 500 dollars less or do you recommend I buy new with the bluetooth module, I need that I will also use a fiio x5 old model,plus other things via coaxial and spidf, such I buy new pete.

Very good video. There is way too much focus on the products vs. the quality of the install. Not sure why anyone would not rather go with properly installed and tuned mid-segment components than poorly installed and not tuned high cost components? Probably comes down to the fact that people in general are not doing their homework. Too much bias towards an "expectation" that certain brands "sound better".

Damn, I wish you were located in the states.

Man Pete I appreciate your openness about equipment, installation and incidentals. Like everyone I want a good if not great system for a guy like me who is very budgeted. For my peace of mind does a dsp really put a good system to the next level or aleast I think I have a decent daily driver system. I'm still up in the air about dsp but I was considering audio control or alpine

Rule number 1 you get what you pay for. Quality is rarely cheap.

You mentioned the 8ch amp with the DSP. I hear some people say that class D has less sound quality. Is the difernce big? Im trying to decide between an amp like that or a stand alone DSP + 4ch amp. Zapco, Class AB, had like a 108 signal to noise ratio. Would there be a big diference in sound quality?

Hey pete I didn't buy the zapco sp, instead I bought the mmatts6150, two of those and one md4100 for bass shakers, because they are class d , their easier on my electrical, I have a 2017 prius v, here they are the best sq class d ,they say on the same level as the zapco ap or lx, when they told me that I was sold, have u heard of them.

Have you seen the systems in the US like NYC and NJ called chuchero where they put like 30 speakers in vans --- you think they have quality speakers, DSP, and amplifiers? some of the brands I was not even aware of.

What is your take on active crossover, and subs? I am not a believer that you need these things to make a world class system. I am perfectly happy with passive crossovers and without a sub in my system. The measurements are relatively flat and the use of EQ does wonders for improving bass.

Hi! Tell me please, I am currently using a Pioneer p90 and a DEQ-P90 processor as a processor. and as a source I use an IBasso 220 player. Will it make a difference if I put a ZAPCO HDSP-Z16 V AD-8A 8-CHANNEL and connect it to an IBasso Dx 220. I have a three-way system with per-channel sound amplification through brax Matrix MX2 and MX4 amplifiers.

Peter, Hi! What's the name of the track at the end? Thank u!

How can I contact you? I know yr BUSY. I've got a couple questions about yr midrange kick panel comments. Let me know. Thanks big time.

Hey Peter I would like to know your take on High End Speakers like Warfedale speaker that cost $20k and the likes. It seems that many of these audiophile components are 20-40k a piece. How much is that amp? $20K, How much is this phono player? $20K, how about these Cryo treated Wires? $20k ect. I want good audiophile quality without the ridicules sticker shock. I just wonder how much of the Avant Garde grade components are expensive solely because of the Design and Craftsmanship of the enclosure but not the sound performance. Aren't you a sound engineer? I bet you could build a set of home floor speakers for a fraction. and if you compare what you do vs Audiophile Home equipment, you are a bargain.

Where is part 3?

im sure the honda has 50k of labor in it alone.

Peter, or any other installers here, had any experience with the ground zero dsp, for tru sq , just need some feed back,

i'm in to budget sound systems, i'm gonna do my fiesta and it will cost roughly 1k

5000 pounds is cheap foe that Peter!!!!

800 hours for an experienced installer?

My minimum budget was 50k 💷

im second hand man xD

Your a rip off mate 🤣 just joking it takes pro to do a good job it does take many hours building, locations , and setup, and your a pro 👍