Thanks for all the constructive comments, guys. There is no right or wrong in this subject other than pointing out that the buyer has the responsibility of knowing the limits of his/her afordability levels and buy within that sphere. The purpose of this video is not to steer the viewer in either direction but merely to compare a few facts and let you guys judge what's best for yourselves.

Funny. Tell Bobby to switch his bank account with yours and Kon you go ahead and tell Bobby, "Eh Bobby, do you know that actually the amount you spent on the E39 can already buy yourself a 330e". Talk is easy. Empty talk is even easier. A brand new car requires monthly payment, which means, debt, as well selling at a lost. Unlike your E39, which essentially debt free, you can chose to not repair or change new parts too, or even sell it at some lost or at breakeven, but won't as rugi as selling a brand new car. You do you. Have fun bro. Cheers!

Well discussed issue Kon. I dwelved over this myself while shopping for my pickup. Eventually, you stand to lose more over time when you buy a new car - taking in depreciation, and extra 'losses' when trading in the vehicle when getting another one. Buying used just means higher initial cost to purchase n restore the car, but the cost will eventually go lower. But to some people, they see it as 'buying' away their worries from breakdowns and save time from having to go from car lot to car lot. To top it off, some people just want to spend as little as possible and get the best car they can. But respectlah Kon on restoring your E39. Sometimes its quite sad to see these nice cars just sitting in the yard, rotting away.

Very good video and explanation. Appreciate more videos like this on used BMW maintenance and cost.

As a used car owner with 5 cars that have either been sold, passed on or currently still in use, I often get told things like what Bobby said. All of them were bought when they were about 9yrs or older, with mileage starting above 130K KM (I even bet that this was tempered before I came along). My main reason that still stands so far is I do not need to commit a fixed monthly allocation of example RM900, for 5 or more years to use/own the vehicle, which includes initial repairs and running wear and tear maintenance, road tax, and insurance even after averaging out the costs. Most people I know of are scared of used car buying because they do not know what to expect and repair costs, whereas a new car already has almost everything from warranty, payment amount to maintenance laid out for the next few years. Like Kon said, when shopping for a used vehicle, the best preparation is to know the vehicle including its Achilles heel, like the manual Inspira's clutch and pump set, excessive oil burning on early Camrys and Estimas with 2AZ-FE, or premature rear wheel bearing wear on FD1/FD2 Civics. What I personally noticed about those that buy used are mostly grouped into 2 categories, the type that wants that specific vehicle model (e.g. petrol heads) , and the other that has enough cash to minimize or eliminate the need for vehicle hire and purchase.

Excellent video Kon! Appreciate your effort in detailing the ownership costs of both brand new and a used bmw. Your videos have clarity and excellent content.keep it up!

Love your videos, could you do more videos like these...how to pick out a good used car, or generally in the area of used car ownership

Very good car knowledge sharing!

Good video Kon, the concierge service is interesting.

Cool info kon... keep it up

Great review bro, I'm definitely looking forward to the 2019 330i its really beautiful. It appears based on your review you would have been better buying the 2018 based on the price you paid for your current car and what the 2018 is going for

Bobby aint accountant, yes one may encounter exponential replacement cost for owning 2nd hand car, but usually that's temporary unless the person bought a piece of crap.. a brand new conti would easily depreciate 30% after just 2 darn years, that's 60k down the drain if it costs RM200k.. as i finished ur clip, another thing to suggest is, if a person needs an 8-year loan to own a car, he is better off going for something way cheaper, always build your wealth before your ego...

Kon, tell Bobby that just the insurance cover for 250k alone is already close to RM8k per annum (Same as your total major initial repair) which you can hide in the installment for first year but not the 2nd year onwards. Not to mention you can sell off your car at anytime without forking more money to sell unlike the 330e in the first 2-3 years.

3-month repair bill vs 8-year monthly loan repayment? How is Bobby's logic? Even if you sell the 330e after 3 years, the top up loan amount and the 3 year monthly repayment is definitely way higher than your 3-year e39 repair bills.

i remember chris wee said, when you buy new car, you paid the cost of the car every month, not including the maintenance cost. but if you buy 2nd hand car with cash, every money you spent later are for the improvement of the car, or something like that :) everybody can buy a new car, not everyone have the patience to upkeep the classic car, or modern classic like your car kon..

thank for the info bro

Nice video Kon! Now i dont need to borrow a good looking suit and enter one of this.

Nice video, chief.. all good facts & figures; although I doubt u will need to spend Rm2-3k month on maintenance once this initial “run-in period” is over and u have sorted out the priorities. Good luck chief..

Your E39 is so uniquely hamsom so you made the right choice imo and whatever it is , come on lah , its our budaya.. 5 is always more atas then 3 hehehe and also a quick check on 17' 330e , its already 170kish.. and still within 5 years waranty!

Kon, I have one Merc W124 260E since 1999 bought used. It was registered in 1991 local C & C model. When I bought it, I also spend something like 8K to change whatever parts that needs to be changed. After that, I just spend the normal maintenance fees for around three years other than once in a while there is some extra topup, eg. battery. Just last year, after driving for closed to 20 years I spend closed to 10K again to change the engine, all the suspension mounting, absorber etc I have been using it without having to worry about paying 8 years or so installment. never regret it. In fact my son who is 23 years old prefer to drive this old man car than the MYVI I bought for him

Hi Kon, Nice topic! Maybe the next topic you can compares between BMW vs Mercedes cost ownership. Cheers

Omg love this video! This video like clarify everything that we've ever wanted to ask! Thanks Kon! New 330e then! haha and while waiting for new G20. Cheers! Thanks Bobby too for this knowledge.

Great video Kon with the simple comparison. Guys arguing in the comments may be missing a crucial point... whilst Kon delves into comparing the cash one may need to fork out in buying a used E39 (and restoring) vs brand new 3 series, he did point out that the motivations for one to choose one over the other is not solely down to cost, but the type of experience one is after. Key takeaway that he did emphasise is "if you think that because you can afford a rm30k axia, therefore you must be able to afford a rm20k bmw, you are wrong". Owning an older used car comes with higher, unpredictable maintenance and repair costs, which may run up to be equal to the money one an owner of a brand new car pays towards financing. Depreciation, insurance etc are good points brought up in the comments, but yes that's what the comments are for, so chill guys!

I always love blue bmws, looks sporty

Terima kasih atas perkongsian.

Buying a used E39 is more about passion! Looking forward to the G20!

Hey Kon, I love your videos about the e39. Thanks for sharing your experiences. I've got this huge crush on an e39 525, appearance it looks superbly stock. Simple 16inch rims, not lowered, no spoilers. If I have to budget of RM 15k to maintain the car for the next 3-4 years, do you think its a good idea?

I'm definitely, looking at buying a brand new one by Gods grace

Me too, grew up admiring the sleek e39. It is the car that I told myself when I grow up I'll drive one. I'm planning to get 525i though. Any tips on how to choose one Kon? Anything in particular I need to pay more attention?

The best thing about these older german cars is if they were and are maintained right, they can last a really long time. These newer cars are wow, but there are a lot of new tech in the newer cars, so repairing when the time comes may be more costly. Not to mention the depreciation. But best thing about new BMWs is the 5 year free service. Thats a lot of money saved there but once passed that 5 year period, only god knows haha

I bought my first car 5yrs ago..a bmw e39 525i with a m52 engine..i have been using this car daily..commuting to work..also travelling across border to south africa and zambia...im from zimbabwe..this car extremely reliable and durable..our roads are bad but the e39 kept on going...now i have 2 the garauge..bought another one 1yr ago...a 528i....both cars doing extremly well despite having to drive through bad gravel roods daily...thank you bmw...you will never go wrong in purchasing a used bmw e39 6cyl.

I estimated RM 8k every year to maintain a 10 years old E90 325i. Brand new BMW 3 series for first 5 years, depreciation is around RM 120k. So it;'s around 40k vs 120k for old and new car for first 5 years. Off course that's depends how much you willing to spend on the car as brand new have an advantage of new leather smell and upgraded electronics. Ride wise would depends. I still prefer the steering feel of E90 compare to full electric power steering which feel numb. But power wise, I prefer the turbo engine with insane torque although I have to admit 6 inline is smoother when you hit 3500 rpm and above but you seldom go into that range for town driving. Fuel economy wise no contest. Newer engine is more efficient. P/S: I wouldn't get 330e. Prefer not a hybrid car as if you wish to keep the car long term, as dealing with 2 drive system will double the headache when the parts start to worn out.

The e39 is arguably one of the best cars ever made, all things considered. Lucky is the man who owns one today before the price to buy one goes stratospheric.

During terrible years, my saga blm went back to workshop 8 times in a year. With major part replacement. Racked up to 4k in repair costs (almost 10% of its original retail price). However, that's still lesser than my yearly installment of the persona vvt. And i need to pay my persona for 5 years. While my saga blm will last for at least 2 years with minimal repair cost after these major repairs. If you have time (to drive to workshop), a second hand (or your existing fully serviced-loan car) should have lower running cost.

Just bought a set of door seals for my e36 at a price of 1 month installment of a 330e. Definitely the door seals last longer than a month ! Haha

If I walk in wearing shorts and sandles like you the salesman will chase me out lol

Great assessment about car...im using Merc w21O facelift...i just maintained it for rm3OO-45O in cost monthly after bought it 25k with Top overhaul cost ...its still smooth..and hassle free...we share the same view on this Kon..

Amazing video concept. Real life scenario. E39 is best looking 5. The E46 is the best looking 3.

E39 is the best car I ever driven .....cant compare with other malaysian car ....this car for those who really loves to drive and people who loves their car.

wahh. so honest and sincere both of u. i will just put my trust on u

worth getting a BMW premium selection?

I believe paying for major repairs less than 10k initially on a 2000s or early 10s BMW cars bought at 50k or 70k should still cost much less than a new car installment in a long run. Say I have interest in E92, will it be that cost too? Looking for expertise advice only.

Hi Kon, definitely a used Beemer. So much savings and these iconic 6 in line trumps the typical new beemers! Mind sharing where do you repair your BMW? Thanks

Is there a rattling sound from your steering wheel?

Overall total ownership cost if you do not sell the car, then buying a second hand is a better choice. But well said Kon on the pro and cons buying new or used! So you have racked up 8k of servicing up to date, how much more would you forsee? In the next 8 years? I believe it won't cost you more than rm200k.

Thanks for sharing this, this comparison is something I've never thought of, or heard of elsewhere. I agree with you on the 30k BMW. There's no such thing as a cheap ticket to owning a luxury car.

Most BMW/AUDI/MERC owners usually purchase through heavy discounting via "corporate Programs" if they are eligible. And usually with agreed future value as well over 3-4 years. Hence, theres really no reasons to buy older models vehicles in this premium segment

I'm planning to buy a 2nd hand car. Volvo S40 year 2012 is it ok

Well, I've owned my E39 for almost 1 1/2 years. While for the first few months I did actually spent MYR1-2k p.m. on the repairs and stuffs, I have basically done nothing on my car (except to refuel and change the oil, of course) for the past 3 months. Definitely with a car loan I can't choose to not pay the monthly installment, compared to choosing to not fix things that are urgently needed.

random interval repair make me pening la... need to survey here and there for affordable price ..

From my perspective, buy secondhand car is better to have some technical knowledge about car so will know the best way to do with when goes wrong or know someone relieble will do too.

Nice video!! Can you make one about buying 2nd hand X5 or X7?

Kon, what happen as a auto journalist and with a e39 passion you should have better position then average Joe's like most of us. But sometimes is a stepping stone in experience of life. Hope your wife don't know you had invest this much for repair bill. I do agree with below some comments they had point, passion = price less some time may not be archive. Some time reality is boring maybe inflation gone up high that maybe hold back something we want.

Can review bmw E90 soon

Thx Kon, but honestly this comparison is just incomplete. :( But keep the videos coming. I appreciate your effort.

What about newer used cars? Something like the 330i or 328i versus the 330e in this video? How would the maths be for depreciation versus repair costs?

Nampaknya qon kena beli BMW baru ni😜

This is what my friend tells me. He is a BMW lover. He bought a brand new 5 series recently. But after 5 years he will definitely sell it off. If he keeps it.......he said he cannot imagine the cost of maintenance... Im sure he has been advised....Try another Genting Run..see what breaks..if you dare of course..

11:02 - 11:12..why aaah...camera angle not focus on the sales rep?...

The repair/restoration costs wont run so high for the rest of the ownership period. After that, you will be left with paying installments and regular maintenance only. unless its a crap unreliable car that breaks down very often

Great to see a fellow e39 owner in this region. I bought an 18 year old 528i e39 2 years ago with a 138,000km on the mileage clock & I use it for our daily commute. Spent about S$3000 ( i'm based in Jakarta ) in repair in the last 2 years mainly on suspension parts, shock absorbers, springs, control arms & tie rods & aux fan. Other than that it drives great & I do my own maintenance & my fuel consumption is currently at 9.9L/100km. My point is the e39 was built like a Rolls Royce & at 18 years old it drives as good as a new BMW. Bought it at S$9000 ... calculate the depreciation say over 4 years ! Great value for a great drive

i have the exact same e39 and where i live if i sell it at at a really good price i could almost afford the original tyres with rims of a new BMW...

Buddy can u tell me whether a peugeot car is less costly to maintain than a bmw? Cause i m into peugeot little bit.

With the monthly cash payments you're not considering the fact the total cost of ownership over interest repayments and the fact that the repairs that you put into an old car could last decades.

Yearly insurance renewal for new car and 2nd hand is already a big difference

It depreciates faster than u pay up.. Why get into debt which likely u can't get out of as the car value will drop so fast.. Highly likely u would need top up just to clear your finance few yrs down the Rd.. Fastest way to get poor is buying one of these things new

Yes at the start of owning a decent used car, esp one that is more than 10 years old .... you will definitely spend the sum you stated to pick up the pieces the previous owner left. But from thereon , will your repair bill reach say 50k in 2 years ? Cause the new 200k car will surely depreciate much more than that. Upon disposal of the 200k new car after 5 years of ownership ( when warranty expires) , many middle class wage earners lose up to 2 years of their NETT take home pay upon selling their car .... . Not mentioning the hefty insurance on new car under HP must be comprehensive based on market value ...while your fully paid old car can be 3rd party for a song ...... you do "save" somewhat ... Sure by all means get a new car or even two , if you have excess cash sitting around to enjoy life .. but many Malaysians are generally living in debt as Bank Negara puts it .... Poor financial management and living up to the Jones. Syndrome - You can't drive your bungalow around town but you can surely show off your new car right ?

Well E39 still looks better than F30. U made the right choice bro.

Kon, are loans still available for 2003 cars? And 3 month's bills vs 8 years loan? 1+1 = 11 then.

i will buy Alfa Romeo 159, Volvo S80, Lexus ls250, BMW 325 e90 and maybe a C200. (in no particular order). And if only, a jaguar XE

Lol - calculate all your downpayment, payments over 8 years - and then the residual value of the car. Unless you got a complete trash of a used car, this is really a no brainer. After an initial heavy expense of restoration, you are left with an E39 that is really MUCH better than that 330e. Plus after the warranty period ends, you will have maintenance costs for that 330 as well.

Would you consider 2jz swap one day? Around 20k +-

If I were to buy a high end car, I would buy a Lexus car, Lexus maintenance and repair is very cheap.

Paying 8k into replace worn out parts is worth rather paying rm2k permth bank loan fr installment over 8yr loan

how are you kon..RM8K over three months...and all the accessories....BMW!!!banyak makam wang...boss.

Do one for Mercerdes-Benz! :)

He said include all the fluid change,i request change the transmission fluid and they told me no need to change transmission fluid,they said it was lifetime,but why only gave us 100k KM warranty only?

The lady also goggles it. So why not we do it ourself. Damn!

Dangerous lah you bro! Now how do I tell my wife I want to get a 118i?! 😥 Thx for this review. Foot for thought 🤔

Saya pernah pakai e34, e39, e60 paling best handling is e39...

If I need to go to a tailor which I don't know yet, I'll just get Google to help me. More convenient and efficient.

Your new BMW will get old too in 5 years time. You not only are servicing your RM2500 installment, you would also be servicing the car the same way as your E39 again. If everyone is not doing it, don't count yourself to be smart, Bobby!

Kon.. i also previously owned used Waja. Now bought a new Honda with 5 yrs warranty , so peace of mind and never worry abt repair. Life is short. Don't always stay with used car. Time to buy new car and enjoy life more.

Racun

I honestly watched to find out about Bmw ownership or the ownership of your car, but ended up watching a bmw advert 😒 from the advert you didn’t cover the other dealership plus points, like BMW financing and premium selection portions Since your doing this,, you should do it with other car maker too, to keep it consistent 😏

depreciation, bank interest, running costs, contingencies etc IMHO car especially new will make you poorer unless you really like cars. Try subscriptions with unlimited mileage if you travel a lot. Renault or nissan is the way to go. Sorry to say Bobby does not talk money sense.

Another 10k will rectify the car. Cheers :)

I buy a car bcoz I needed one not bcoz someone tell me so. No one is going to pay for your car installment/maintenance if you cannot afford it :P.

Wow mean you want or not to buy 🤣 The fliud etc. Covered is it already inclusive with the retail price ? Hemmmm....🤔

I really doubt you will be spending an average of 2.5k every month for repairs for the next 8 years. Plus, you're talking about repair costs, of course a new car has no repair costs. Talk about depreciation and bank interest costs for the new 330e vs E39 and the picture looks very different.

New bmw is candy for thieves

Bobby's been smoking something too much or not enough?. You dont repair your e39 every month but you need to pay your monthly installments.

buy new car, few months after that, the price depreciate. IF u are lucky, no issue. if got issue, then u better off buy a used one lol

European car makes me POORER....

Better get toyota lol

Ridiculous.....what you bought will save you couple of hundreds of thousands la ......new BMW will still end up costing more